Besides, the ones who died “went there voluntarily.”
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I guess Bush would much prefer to have been one of those grunts who could have “a fantastic experience” on the front lines, as that is so “romantic.”
I agree that war is not the ideal answer, I’ve got family and friends over there and I would rather they were home safe.
Budda, that is about the “only” intelligent thing both of us have written. Don’t care for your politics however, you seem like a “pretty cool dude”
Cheers,
RC
Budda, that is amount the “only” intelligent both of us have written. Don’t care for your politics however, you seem like a “pretty cool dude”
Cheers,
RC
Taco: Bosnia.
Invading country after country ( killing bombing , destroying) really isn’t the correct answer..your trying to impose your views/opinions on everyone who disagrees with you regardless of whether they want you to or not.
War is not the answer.
Peace brother.
Budda,
Look we have been working the diplomacy route in Cuba for 40 plus years now. Guess what IT IS NOT WORKING the people still do not have the rights that should be afforded to all humans. They have been enslaved for decades and will continue to be, just to please people like you. If I were President I would storm Cuba and free the people, next would be Venezuela, then North Korea, and on and on and on until every human had the right to live without fear of persecution for beleifs. Human rights are among the highest of regards of most liberal causes and you want to us dipolomacy.
Give me one example of diplomacy saving people from major human rights violations in the last 50 years.
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No one went there “voluntarily.” They were ordered into Iraq by our President. They would have been confronted by the inevitable penalties of the Uniform Code of Military Justice had they refused.
Doubtless, many complied because it was their duty to do so, and that is a testament to their valor and love of country and all the best ideals that America might ever represent. But that doesn’t mean they “wanted” to do it.
Only a mad man wants war, and only a cartoon caricature of a man would talk about the “romance” of staring down the barrel of a gun. Because war is killing and death and rotting corpses and human beings mutilated beyond recognition. It’s slaughtering people by the thousands. And it is an obscenity. And for a man who had “more important things to do” than serve in Vietnam to calmly remark “you do what you gotta do” lays bare the black soul of the Bush regime.
March 25th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Cheney, what can I say? Oh, I know, I’d like to punch him in the face! Did I say that outloud?
March 25th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
The worse thing about Cheney is that he can’t hear what he says in the way most of us hear him. He seems to be clueless why most of us object to his outlandish statements, ill advised predictions, and near total lack of sensitivity to any other’s thoughts. This man seems to me to act like small stroke syndrome with a dose of organic dementia. That is impairment of judgement, affect, intelligence, memory and orientation!
March 25th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
So?!!!!!
March 25th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
Well, don’t know about dementia, but I’ve always thought that the man seems so sure of his own opinions that there must something in the DSM-IV to suggest a treatment program.
March 26th, 2008 at 1:35 am
Dear Budda,
You are too much of a “victim” to punch anybody in the face! When will you victims stop crying about how “mean old Bush” and “mean old Cheney” are taking advantage of you all victims. Why don’t show some respect for our offices and institutions? If anybody needs to be slapped up the side of his head it’s “you”. Even if we don’t agree with our President/Vice President, we need to grow up and act like adults. I never liked Presidents Carter/Clinton/ and Reagan at the beginning however, I always defended the office and institution.
To all you cry baby, I hate Bush/Cheney, nobody on death row is guilty, Nobama is not racist, global warming is upon us, I’m middle-aged and still hate my daddy, victimized liberals, “BE ORIGINAL”. Stop looking down your college educated, know-it-all, liberal snouts at the rest of America. Thank God for adults, and “God Bless America”.
From a “Middle-Aged American” / “Typical Hispanic”
March 26th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
“Middle-Aged American”…I’m NOT a victim, I’m an old grouchy fart who’s PO’ed at the quality of some office holders. That pompous ass in the White House does not represent me or 70% of the citizens of this country, and his ’second’ in command is more delusional then many people who are institutionalized for their own good.
March 26th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Budda, remember, this “ass” was elected by a majority of the people. There is alot more “assess” in the stable then the two you are talking about. Keep in my the beauty of “our” system. You only have ten more months to put up with the current crop. Then you can complain about the new “ass” in charge and his “delusional” second in command. Peace.
March 26th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
rc I don’t remember a majority of the people electing the particular ass in the White House…if you think that you probably missed the news that year. Oh, and I don’t think they are ‘mean’ , I think they are out of touch with reality. I pity them, I don’t hate them.
Peace to you too.
March 26th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
All cheny had to do to make this interview complete was to pull out a [rambo] combat knife turn around and throw it… pin the flag to the wall
March 26th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
We are in Iraq if you like it or not so why dont we just finish the course of action and return order to a country that was once being starved by its dictator. You should be so lucky to not have to worry about starvation, and imprisonment for speaking against the govt.
Budda, what do you suppose we do to dictators that starve and opress their population? What about countries that fund terrorist organizations?
What about countries that imprison people for speaking out against govt. policies?
-Looking for answers
March 27th, 2008 at 12:35 am
Taco..what the hell are you yaking about? Why did we go into Iraq? WMD, there were none, never where any. Starved by a dictator..that’s a justifiable reason to invade a country? Africa is full of them, I guess we should invade all of them and why haven’t we then? Yeah, I know I’m lucky to live in this great country where I can sound off against all the incompetence and idiots in our wonderful government. If your position is we should take action against all wrong doers, then maybe we should start at home.
Love ya, mean it.
March 27th, 2008 at 1:14 am
Budda,
Im asking what do you think we should do about the remaining countries i.e. african countries, Iran, etc.?
Give your solutions not just spouting off about our government incompetence and idiots.
March 27th, 2008 at 1:20 am
Taco..One solution I don’t think we should consider is invading those countries just because we don’t like something that is going on there. Diplomancy, what a concept! Negotiation, another good concept. Economic pressure ( we still are the largest economic power in the world). These are just some of the civilized and accepted ways that cultures have used to solve international problems that have actually worked. No one was killed either. Do you think these suggestions are not worth trying? I’d like to hear your solutions…hopefully they are even better then these!
Lets talk.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:15 am
How do you use diplomacy with killers and unethical dictators. Use Castro for example he has been sanctioned for years by us he just does business with others who only care about $$$. They do not listen to diplomacy.
So there is one example of a country of oppressed people that will continue to be killed and imprisioned for telling the dictator he is wrong or trying to start a political change.
Same story in Iran.
The problem is Russia, France, Switzerland,Egypt, etc. still do business with these countries and they build weapons against the U.S. because they do not want their population to see people being free.
March 27th, 2008 at 2:25 am
Budda,
Look it up. The truth is documented and without emotion.
Bush (Incumbent) 62,040,606 51% of Voters 286
Kerry 59,028,109 48% of Voters 252
Pitying and hating people are such strong words. You know President Bush and Vice President Cheney don’t really lose alot of sleep over being hated or pitied. Most good politicians have “thick skins” and are used to comments like what you spew. Give yourself a break.
March 27th, 2008 at 8:12 am
Are you guys really trying to defend this administration? Pitying is such a strong word? Killing thousands unnecessarily …what’s that? Diplomacy is a lot cheaper ( in dollars AND lives) then war. Maybe it doesn’t produce the instant gratification that you seek but it might produce a better and safer world. I know some people find that hard to believe but that says more about them then it does about diplomacy. Politics IS compromise. Yes , politicians have thick skins but some of them have thick heads.
March 27th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
rc, I did look it up..
Bush = 50,456,002
Gore = 50,999,897
Nader= 2,882,955
March 27th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Budda, Believe it or not, the world has moved on. You are looking up stats that did not make a difference. You seem intent to let this things eat at you. Go ahead. Remember, the Supreme Court said, enough is enough. Get over it and move on. What kind of ass would Gore have been anyway? Would he be an ass more to your liking?
War is not necessarily a bad thing. I have personally attended a couple. I was in the Gulf, 1990/1991 and in Iraq 2003. Never thought much about a guy trying to shoot at me. I just shot back. Keep in mind, liberal politicians have also gotten us into wars, FDR, Kennedy expanded the military in Vietnam, and Johnson was overwhelmed by it. The military needs to be apolitical, and follow the dictates of American policy, from both liberal and conservative Presidents. It is a vicious world out there. My heart never bled for our enemies, and I never sat down and cried about the injustices of the world. It is what it is. Thank God, we live in a country that allows us all the liberty to run at the mouth and become “full of ourselves”. That includes you and me.
” Better to be hated for who I really am” then “loved for something I am not”
March 27th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Gore would have been a better ass then W. And ,oh yea, I saw Nam first hand..gung-ho guys like you weren’t appreciated there.
March 27th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Budda, guys in Iraq aren’t crying themselves to sleep over the war. The intent is to win it. Why don’t you check it out, since you are a Vet. You would be surprised by the professionalism of our military. And the dedication. Nothing gung-ho, just professional.
The Vietnam War was then, this is now. I could and would understand if one was drafted and made to fight in an unpopular war. In fact, I met many senior NCO’s when I join in 1976. Different people, different war. However, every one in Iraq joined the military of there own free will. No one there wants to be there however, they make the sacrafice. Very few convey an attitude like yours. Seems to me you have trouble letting go.
March 27th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
“Why don’t show some respect for our offices and institutions?”
As for me, I completely respect the offices and institutions. And, I’d be more than happy to give them (Bush & Cheney) respect IF they would respect the offices and institutions themselves. But they don’t respect their offices and/or the responsibility they have been given which makes it near impossible for me to respect them. They disrepect the American people, the Constitution and their very important offices with their abuse of power, intentional misleading, fear mongering, secrecy, lack of oversight and their “so?” attitude.
March 27th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
rc…I’d love to sit down and drink some beers with you…we could solve a lot of this poor worlds problems.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:19 am
Budda,
Look we have been working the diplomacy route in Cuba for 40 plus years now. Guess what IT IS NOT WORKING the people still do not have the rights that should be afforded to all humans. They have been enslaved for decades and will continue to be, just to please people like you. If I were President I would storm Cuba and free the people, next would be Venezuela, then North Korea, and on and on and on until every human had the right to live without fear of persecution for beleifs. Human rights are among the highest of regards of most liberal causes and you want to us dipolomacy.
Give me one example of diplomacy saving people from major human rights violations in the last 50 years.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:19 am
Taco: Bosnia.
Invading country after country ( killing bombing , destroying) really isn’t the correct answer..your trying to impose your views/opinions on everyone who disagrees with you regardless of whether they want you to or not.
War is not the answer.
Peace brother.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:25 am
Budda, that is amount the “only” intelligent both of us have written. Don’t care for your politics however, you seem like a “pretty cool dude”
Cheers,
RC
March 28th, 2008 at 8:20 am
Budda, that is about the “only” intelligent thing both of us have written. Don’t care for your politics however, you seem like a “pretty cool dude”
Cheers,
RC
March 28th, 2008 at 8:22 am
I agree that war is not the ideal answer, I’ve got family and friends over there and I would rather they were home safe.
March 28th, 2008 at 8:38 am