Conservatives Now Claiming Obama Hates Small-Town America
At an April 6 San Francisco fundraiser, he said this:
“You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
And just where is he wrong? Pointing out why people may be bitter or frustrated, that there is xenophobia, that people sometimes cling to religion or feel paranoid about the government and embrace guns doesn’t mean you hate or disdain a portion of the population. Huffington Post has the audio.
I’m with you. Two dissenting voices in a chorus of dumb-assery, it appears.
http://tinyurl.com/4ejvvt
Are people so used to dumbed down crap and pandering to handle a little honesty?
Yours,
John Brown
I Know Disdain
April 11th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
It seems like every time Obama or his wife have said anything “controversal,” his campaign will find a way to say “what he/she really meant to say.”
I do believe that he was playing up to the SF people to get their $$$ by letting them feel in a higher class.
April 11th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Fox News is basically running this as it’s newest Republican talking point.
Not a surprise Alan allows Sean to run the show and stack the guest list with Republicans to reinforce it.
April 11th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Well, personally, I’m inclined to think that people need no excuse to get bitter and cling to hate, and they never have, and they never will, but I guess I have rather a cynical view of my fellow humans.
Things change. No one likes it, but that’s how it is. And that’s what the rightists refuse to accept.
April 11th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
No doubt that Faux News will be reporting this every half hour for the next three days and telling their viewers that Barrack hates “real” Americans. And you know people like me who live in LA are not real Americans. In fact we are called elitist because our culture doesn’t center around Wal-Mart.
April 11th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
I wonder how the muslims in Dearborn feel about this. Will the media ever conduct a poll in Dearborn over which candidate the muslims prefer ?.. Don’t hold your breath for it. Regards. TOM
April 11th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
I don’t know… I’m really starting to feel that Obama is a very smooth talking, inspiring, handsome, intelligent, SOCIALIST. I’m not really down with socialism in America. I’m not saying he doesn’t have some decent policy positions, b/c he does. But he’s just such a smooth talker… rather than inspiring me, it’s starting to concern me. You can mask lies and negative agendas with smooth words…
April 11th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
I think people are making something out of nothing and if you listen to vidio you should understand exactly what he meant. This is a ploy by Hillary who is geting desperate and Mccain who knows he may get beat in Nov.
April 11th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
I cant understand what people are thinking because everything he said is true
April 11th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
This doesn’t rise to the level of me being interested enough to even try to determine if it’s anti American, or whatever.
April 11th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Obama doesn’t hate small town America.
He understands small town America.
April 12th, 2008 at 12:56 am
For years conservatives have been attacked by the PC crowd for saying true things that offended people. So, liberals are finally being hoist by their own petard. So be it.
April 12th, 2008 at 3:56 am
I grew up in a Minneapolis suburb and have lived in several cities over my 62 years. I have NEVER understood all the fuss over guns, religous fervor, and rural antagonisms. They were just not a part of my American experience, so I was particularly interested in the presentation of Sen. Obama’s speech last weekend, and found his “controversial comments” very enlightening. I feel that I can finally understand rural Americans, their perspective, and now appreciate and respect their experience and situation.
Obama has demonstrated enormous courage in presenting insight to the American public. I believe that is how you bring a nation together. We should be praising him for something that makes one group of Americans more understandable, and for generating identification and consolidation of all elements of America.
I believe that was just what he did with his speech on race. Turning a deaf ear, or reinterpreting and incorrectly characterizing his message is self-defeating . It then becomes an example of just what the people in rural areas are complaining about!
You are divisive and keeping America dysfunctional and at odds with itself. That’s very foolish.
April 12th, 2008 at 8:07 am
There are less jobs in America and jobs continue to go overseas as we blog. Obama is out there addressing this issue and the media doesn’t like it. Go Obama.
April 12th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Personally, I think that you go into some of these left-wing blogs, and like a lot of self-proclaimed “liberal” enclaves, they perceive that their true died-in-the-wool leftist candidates have been gone now since 1968 and nobody has replaced them. They saw huge losses in the 80’s, and then later with Kerry and Gore… so it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to environmentalism or Marxist dogma or antipathy to people who aren’t like them–anti-religious sentiment, perhaps–as a way to explain their frustrations. It shouldn’t come as a surprise that they latch on to some vague, ethereal concept of “change” to give purpose to their lives.
If what Obama said is so spot on, so accurate, and so understandable if heard in full, then nobody here should have a problem with it being played over and over and over and over for the next 7 months.
And it will… oh, it definitely will.
April 12th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
“I believe that is how you bring a nation together. We should be praising him for something that makes one group of Americans more understandable, and for generating identification and consolidation of all elements of America.” –Connie Star
It might be even more effective at bringing the nation together if you capture some members of that little understood group of Americans, and tagged their ears with GPS tracking devices. Then you could follow them around and study them, maybe even make a documentary!
You people are so out of touch that it is becoming hysterical. I literally laughed out loud at your comment, and, yet, you probably don’t even understand how intellectually inferior you sound to most Americans–those bitter, small-town Americans–who would look at you with a combination of pity and curiosity.
Do none of you–Alan?–realize the extent of the unelectability of this undeservedly pompous moron that you are about to nominate?
April 12th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
All Obama does is talk change, but he does not have any solutions.
And when he does talk without the aid of a teleprompter he makes bonehead statements like the one to the San Francisco elite. He comes across as a snob.
The Uniter? I don’t think so. There is no way he is going to unite the country with his divisive language. Don’t believe me? Just look at the massive negative reaction to his comments.
April 12th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
First off, the Huffington Post broke this, not Fox News. Second, it is a complete non sequitor to say that economic disappointment and religous faith, gun ownership or attitudes towards law breaking (presumably, Obama meant small town attitudes about illegal immigration as I have never seen any article that asserted small town folks are against legal immigration) go hand-in-hand. Faith and gun ownership are fundamental rights listed in the first and second ammendments to the US Constitution for God’s sake! Obama’s statement, therefore, makes no sense unless you are a fanatical believer in the teachings of Karl Marx (religion is the opiate of the people type schtick). Obama has now shown that his loyalty to Rev. Wright and the Reverend’s preaching of Black Liberation Theology, which is essentially Marxism for a Black audience, are not an outlier, but, rather, a clear line drawn from the first point to the second that demonstrates that Obama believes that crap. The consequence is severe–Hillary now has a much stronger argument that Obama is unelectable as he just threw away any chance at red states in November. The super delegates must be thinking “what the heck?”
April 12th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
I think we’re learning that Mr. Obama is just like every other ambitious politician. Nothing special. When his private beliefs (quasi-racist church, “typical white person”, and elitism) poke through the otherwise controlled public image, why are we surprised at the contrast?
He’s not ready to be president.
April 12th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
He’s wrong because it’s a stupid overgeneralization, of a piece with elite liberal attitudes towards the rubes in flyover country. Sure, there is some (vanishingly small) number of people who turn to religion or guns or xenophobia out of economic anxiety. But most people who are religious are sincere believers. Most people who own guns do so for recreation or self-defense. And most people who oppose unregulated immigration do so because they genuinely think it’s bad for the country.
April 12th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
And DaveS has a brilliant comment, above. Bitter Libs clinging to environmentalism and Marxism!!! Very good!
April 12th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
…So American are very happy. When they buy a gun, they do it for fun. When they go to church they always do it just because it’s a nice place to spend a Sunday and when they see someone working and does not speak proper English they immediately feel “I got to make this guy feel at home” and no problem if my local school and local hospital is struggle with illegal immigrants who can not pay for tuition and care and do not pay taxes.
Yes right… it is so elitist to see Americans as a bunch bitter, fearful and frustrated people… why complaining… really.
April 12th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
“feel paranoid about the government”?
I don’t exactly think it’s the Right whom this statement describes these days…
April 12th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Leaving the whole elite liberal $2300 a plate gathering where he spewed this vile crap alone… The scary thing is that this guy has indicated that he wants to create a secret police to spy on our churches and confiscate our legal, constitutionally mandated, weapons. Apparently he spent too much time with his mother’s second husband, a radical Muslim. Once we’re all disarmed and afraid to speak our minds, he can introduce Sharia Law and we’ll have no way to combat it.
April 12th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Lived in small towns for decades, never plan to live anywhere else. STOP telling me how I really feel about anything when you havn’t a clue about who I am or what I think. In short Mr. Colmes, please shut up!! Thankyou.
April 12th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Do you people really believe American’s have been out of work for 25 years? Are you that naive to believe “change” is what America will get when Obamas record NEVER has him voting for anything other than socialism, pure and simple.
Obama is another line of smooth talking communists who are attempting to destroy capitolism.
April 12th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
It pisses me me off to no end when I hear the obama followers say that what he said about rural penn is absolutely true.I can tell you right now If people from the 1700 all the way to 1950 can hear what this dofus just said to those liberals in san francisco they would cry out of fear for their country in sadness in the possibility that this guy can become the next president.For they held their first and second amendment dear to their heart just as im sure Obama holds all men are created equal to his heart. and non of that is out of bitterness and economics.
April 12th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
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April 12th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Why do Democrats hate typical white people?
April 12th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
I was onboard with Obama in the begining but that bulb has burned like a CFL light. It’a a bit dimmer than the real thing now. He IS on the raw side of politics. He does need experience. He needs a voting record. Voting present will not cut it in the fall. He has to get off that seesaw. Mostly, all those years in a church pew of racism is a red flag for me. How can he move to the center in the general when he has THE modst liberal voting record. Partial birth abortion that he is for is just not right. Taxpayer funded id even more wrong
April 12th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
And just where is he wrong?
Shhh. Don’t explain it to him. It’s better if he stays just the way he is. It’s like watching a haughty guy walk around with a toilet paper streamer on his loafer.
April 12th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
His comment made absolutely no sense and you call it ‘the truth’?
Companies taxed out of providing jobs makes people want to protect themselves by supporting a Constitutional right AND love God – and this is truth?
Liberals can somehow dicipher incoherent hate for our laws and religion and say, “So what?” Amazing.
April 12th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
If you are any age, especially 62, and still need Obama (Harvard Grad, Chicago communist organizer, rated most liberal Senator, more liberal than even Kennedy or Clinton) to explain rural people to you, then you are a moron. Period.
April 12th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
PS, the unemployment rate is LOWER now than at any time during the Clinton administration. How does that fit the narrative?
April 12th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
there’s nothing wrong with what he said. If he knows why Pennsylvanians and Midwesterners are a bunch of gun toting, bible thumping racists AND he knows how to heal them, he should be out there talking about it every day. That would be super unitey, right?
I’m sure it’s going to go over well in Pennsylvania and the Midwest. I see a great ad in the making: “Obama can fix you paranoid, superstitious bigots! Change you can believe in!”
April 12th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Ok Alan, let’s say Obama is correct, the small town Americans are depressed, morally, economically dependant on Religion…What’s Obama’s solution? Is he the great Black hope? Is he going to stretch the Government tit more so we small town Americans can suckle even more ?
He and his elitest wife are the ones who are out of touch with American values…Perhaps he has been paying more attention to his Mentor Rev. Jerimiah Wright, (or shall I say Jerimiah Wrong) than we want to admit.. I think he’s one of Reverand Wright’s top students after all.
April 12th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Alan, do you cling to your religion because of your dire economic circumstances? If not, why would you think other people do?
But if you lefties want to continue to push the “Obama’s just being persecuted for speaking the truth” line, please do. In fact, I think Obama should begin a national conversation on Religion and its merits as an opiate for the masses.
April 12th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
the ignorance and arrogance of the comments posted here are breathtaking. yeah the chosen one is in touch all right, in touch with all of you deluded, elitist crap
April 12th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
Barack is not wrong…..And isn’t it refreshing to have a candidate running for public office who can finally be honest with the American people……who is willing to treat us like adults, and who has the ability to think for a change, that we are important enough to come to terms with our feelings…and face the fact that yes…we are angry, yes we are bitter, because we have been lied to so often by folks who told us to trust them….so thank you Sen. Obama, you are a class act. I am now very encouraged that we finally have a candidate who has faith enough in the American people to make us face our anger , our bitterness, and to give us a chance to come to terms with it….and know that he is with us, because he also feels that….and together we can make this country a better place…once we know where we have been…we can know where we are going.
April 12th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
I’m still trying to figure out how bigorty is caused by unemployment…..?
What Obama said was pretty stupid.
April 12th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
I hate to inform all of you of this but very few of us are saying that he hates America or American’s because of what he said. What most of us are saying is that he is a condescending, arrogant,out of touch socialist who has zero understanding of small town or middle America. Thats all we are saying. ;)
April 13th, 2008 at 12:03 am
Come on guys everyone knows that Jesus, I mean Obama, can never be wrong.
April 13th, 2008 at 12:23 am
Ace says it best:
“Obama To Rural Americans: Vote For Me, You Corncob-Smokin’, Banjo-Strokin’ Chicken-Chokin’ Cousin-Pokin’ Inbred Hillbilly Racist Morons…”
—Ace
Go SnOb-ama Go!
I thought the racist Wright stuff would be enough, but this… this is just PRICELESS!
A classic John Kerry moment “I was AGAINST the Chicken-Chokers, before I was FOR them”…
Oh! And of course the now-required “I’m sorry if you were stupid enough to be offended” non-apology.
“Barack Hussein Obama, singlehandedly keeping the N-word alive for another Century!”
April 13th, 2008 at 12:27 am
I almost forgot……Gee…..kick me~!! I know Pennsylvannians are very independent and loyal people…….I have quite a few relatives who live in the Keystone State….and I talked to two of them a few hours ago about this very issue~~One said he hadn’t really heard any of the hoopla…..and the other…she said, she us more outraged that Hillary Clinton has the nerve to tell the voters of Pennsylvannia how they should think and who they should vote for…….and if anyone is an elitist it is Hillary….she thinks she is better than everyone else…and, I will quote my cousin Patty…”she is treating the voters here like we are children…..not adults…….I find that very insulting, and I would think that her father who is a Pennsylvannian,from Scranton would have taught her better….would have taught her to be a bit more humble…..” Patty who was going to vote for Hillary on April 22, because she thought she could relate to the people of PA more……is no longer going to do so…..she likes Obama’s candidness and his ability to make folks look forward not backward……..her Husband Mark was always an Obama supporter…because he likes the senator’s genuine spirit. They Both agree with my assessment that I posted above>>>>>
April 13th, 2008 at 1:11 am
At least it keeps him away from his rants on climate change. Thats refreshing.
http://theglobalwarmingtruth.com/
April 13th, 2008 at 1:18 am
Lucieann, is your cousin religious? If not, then she is probably not the kind of voter Obama risks alienating.
If so, does she cling to her religion because of her dire economic situation? Does she think that is why other religious people ‘cling’ to their faith?
April 13th, 2008 at 1:27 am
“Things change. No one likes it, but that’s how it is. And that’s what the rightists refuse to accept.”
That’s asinine. Rightists don’t like change when it involves leaving the Second Amendment in tatters and debasing religion just because some high and mighty leftist thinks we should. Rightists just want our kind of change. Like more free trade. Less government. More personal responsibility. Doesn’t that response say everything? “Us leftists are for change and hope and those dumb hics who don’t share our viewpoints should just let their betters make decisions for them.” Whether it is Obama or Hillary we are going to wipe the floor with your pathetic candidates.
April 13th, 2008 at 1:37 am
Being a Republican, I suppose news of this nature gives me reason to celebrate… I just can’t get over the fact that folks like Mr. Colmes are actually paid to provide news.
I also have a hard time believing that our society will be virulently outraged over the phrase “nappy-headed hos” and simply gloss over, condone, or even celebrate statements like “God d*mn America” and “these communities [...] cling to guns and religion [...] to explain their frustrations.”
Conclusion: Barack Obama is the opium of the masses.
April 13th, 2008 at 1:52 am
When Barack is talking to RICH WHITE PEOPLE in SF, he has to try to explain the mindset of the average depressed, gun-toting, bible-thumping citizenry (in SF, you can’t own a handgun, so they’re appalled at the backwardness of the rest of the country.) So he had to explain about our need to CLING to our guns..that’s all (although in his explanation he said he meant we VOTE about our guns…huh?) He has to say things he really doesn’t mean. He would never have said those things to our faces!
‘Cause we know he went to Rev. Wright’s church, and we know he went after the NRA vote last week or so…so he really likes guns and religion. When he’s with his mentors, like Rev Wright, or his true friends, or with his wife, Barack hates those RICH WHITE PEOPLE. He’s just using them for their support…you know, like the Getty’s and other billionairs we was talking to. But we know his campaign is all about us, the little people. Excuse me now, me and my gun are sleepy.
April 13th, 2008 at 1:58 am
Hes wrong because as a midwesterner myself, im bitter because im sick and tired of these elitist liberals condescending to me because i Love the Lord and the freedoms of the constitution. Obama doesnt understand freedom. Thats why he cant understand the 2nd Amendment. Its really starting to frighten me how out of touch he is with real Americans who cherish freedom and how the sheep in the liberal camp blindly defend everything he says. Every time he opens his mouth he “misspeaks” and you can always count on his cult following to tell us “what he really meant to say” Tools.
April 13th, 2008 at 2:07 am
You small town midwesterers just don’t get it. You are too stupid to understand the nuances of Obama and his superior intellect. He is here to save you from yourselves, your bitterness and your frustration. So if you bible thumping, gun toting, xenophobic racists
would just shut up and vote for him the world will change for the better!
April 13th, 2008 at 2:19 am
I think Barack showed is true colors. This “typical” white person, Church going, gun toteing small town redneck hick here will not be voting for him.
April 13th, 2008 at 3:16 am
Allan…where to begin.
“And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they
cling to guns
or religion
or antipathy to people who aren’t like them
or anti-immigrant sentiment
or anti-trade sentiment as a way
to explain their frustrations.”
THe rubes do this instead of just accepting Obama’s prescriptions for what Good Government will do for them…that is they’re not bright enough to know that their real future is in the government’s (Obama’s) hands, and they VOTE IN the wrong government (the reactionary Repubs) because of these secondary interests of theirs. They have become distracted from their true condition, and have created a false conscious. That would be the one where families have handed down religion, guns, values, etc. The true conscious is where you act as a class to demand government services, jobs, welfare, education, etc
And in his speech he says this is what we must change. Of course, he also mentioned that the message the government is your friend and will take care of you, may be difficult to accept since he’s a 46 year old black man. (so i guess the PA people are a little bigotted too)
So in Obama’s perfect world people would not need guns, not need religion, or fear immigration, or trade policies. (kinda like Lennon’s “Imagine”
Obama has said that we can build a kingdom or earth.
I know most LIBs will agree with all of this, and say, yes…that’s the point.
But libs are clueless, because they’ve never figured out that their quasi-marxist notions are just something that they think is cool. Nobody else does.
April 13th, 2008 at 3:36 am
populist rhetoric is a sure sign of a loser
April 13th, 2008 at 3:48 am
From: Rob April 13, 2008 at 2:19 am
“You small town midwesterers just don’t get it. You are too stupid to understand the nuances of Obama and his superior intellect. He is here to save you from yourselves, your bitterness and your frustration.”
I’m from Ohio. I would have put a hyphen between “small” and “town,” and I would have included an “n” in “midwesterers.” But then I don’t get those nuances of Obama and his superior intellect.
I actually thought he’d be able to put Hillary away. Instead, Democrats will remember his wine and brie comments as their “Bill Buckner moment.” I can see the slow-rolling grounder going through Obama’s legs now. What a blunder. But he can’t help himself; he has the emotional intelligence of someone who’s undergone a lobotomy.
Not only, as Dick Morris points out, is Obama’s weakness weakness, but it’s stupidity. Didn’t his handlers cover this subject in Campaigning 101? Repeat after me: “Don’t alienate your voters.” Then, “Don’t make it worse if you do.”
Send him back to the lecturer’s job he had at University of Chicago. Maybe his superior intellect will be more appreciated there.
I like the Saturday characterization: a flare up. Yeah, right. I heard he’ll be in Pittsburgh on Monday. I hope he’s been fitted for a flak jacket. And maybe as a joke, he might go into his first appearence wearing a Steelers helmet. Yet knowing him, he’ll screw it up and go in wearing a Cincinnati Bengals helmet.
April 13th, 2008 at 4:00 am
Sorry but I agree with Allan here… and it’s rare.
I do not see the demeaning aspect in Obama’s words.
I see empathy… but I also understand how a someone of faith living in a small town and owner of a gun resenting illegal immigration would feel.
From comments I read here I see people assuming the worst from Obama and immediately starting to “assume”, “distort” and “re-interpret” his words.
Can anyone tell me if everybody comes to religion for the right reasons? develop spirituality, a sense of communion and moral guidance while helping others?
I do not think so… I think there is also people coming and believing a religion because it represent a center point in their social and family life on which they can count when life appear unfair.
Does anyone buy a gun just for hunting and protecting their family?
How about buying and using guns by pure hobby, or pure fear?
How about xenophoby, racism, religious, sexual discrimination? Do we discriminate minorities because we suspect they did not come illegally or because their belief imped our freedom?
I guess we have never seen a minority being rejected because of his appearance or belief?
All that does not happen in small town… right?
And no small town person can be bitter… no bitterness about immigration and global market policies? No feelings of being left out for the big cities?
April 13th, 2008 at 5:17 am
First I was wrong because I was a “typical white person” now I am deficient because I was born in a small town. Yes, I was born in a small town. Small town Indiana in fact. I married a small town girl, who just happened to be born in the same small town where John Mellencamp was also born. Mellencamp’s hit song “Small Town” included the line “educated in a small town.” That education provided me with enough common sense to be able to spot an arrogant elitist liberal when I see one and boy do I see one now. That arrogant elitist liberal is the one and only Barack Obama.
Barack Obama states: “You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
Hey Barack: I am not bitter,
I am not anti-immigrant, I just want immigration laws followed and the borders sealed to those who do not want to follow the law.
I don’t own a gun but support the rights of those who do.
The Church I attended never Damned America, or supported segregation. It never promoted the racial superiority of one race over another. I guess my Pastors were never as enlightened as your Reverend Wright.
Over the years I have made friends with many people who aren’t like me. If only you had done the same then you probably would not have such a bigoted opinion against those of us from small towns.
To be like you I would have to feel that you were just another arrogant urban liberal. But because I was “Educated in a Small Town” I learned to accept people for who they are. Fortunately the many friends I have made from urban backgrounds do not have your arrogance and bigoted attitude. I guess I am just another one of those typical white people.
April 13th, 2008 at 5:32 am
With so many generalizations its difficult to know where to begin! Murder rates are less in small towns, unemployment is less. Sure we might have a gun or two which I probably haven’t fired in years! I drove many miles to and from my jobs because I chose to live where I wanted to! My kids actually have some of the same teachers that I had and my parents before me! Those pesky Methodist ladies sure have great bake sales and they know how to cook! I can’t remember my preacher ever saying anything but to love and to help your neighbors! Kids still write on paper here and leave the walls alone! In the 80’s many city dwellers on the coast wanted a home in the country why was that? When was the last time you heard the comment, “Gets Go Take A Ride In The City”?
April 13th, 2008 at 6:53 am
Face it, Libs. Your precious spokesman, feeling right at home in a gathering of rich San Fran liberals, shot himself in the foot by letting his hair down and blurting out his real feelings about heartland America. He clings to the condescending liberal stereotypes that one encounters every day in venues like Daily Kos, Huffpo, and glossy mags like Vanity Fair and the Atlantic Monthly. No attempt to slither out will help. The more that elitists in academia, the media, and politics rise to his defense, the more they will merely rub it in. Let’s hear it folks: Hosannas For Obama.
April 13th, 2008 at 6:55 am
Gregory:
You need to listen to the tape and look at more of the transcript. Obama was asked by a supporter in San Fran why he was have such a hard time in PA closing the gap on Hillary.
As Obama supporters love to chant, “consider the context.” He’s trying to explain his PA difficulties to people who may or may not be writing him checks, depending on his response. So in a private affair, he let his hair down as it were and blamed his troubles on a bunch of narrow-minded people in small Midwestern towns. Context is everything. He’s not expressing sympathy for anyone.
Maybe he should take back his non-apology apology and admit that he used Midwesterners as an easy target to embellish his story so that his audience (the West Coast fat cats) would pry open their wallets.
It’s a good thing that Colmes and Obama supporters aren’t in law enforcement: no crimes would ever be solved because they have no clue.
What I’d like to know is who made the recording? He or she must be in some kind of witness protection program by now. I’ve heard they now have a video clip too. With supporters like that, who needs opponents?
April 13th, 2008 at 7:00 am
To: John Van Laer April 13, 2008 at 6:55 am
“He clings to the condescending liberal stereotypes that one encounters every day in venues like Daily Kos, Huffpo, and glossy mags like Vanity Fair and the Atlantic Monthly.”
The delicious irony of this story is that Huffpo broke the story on Friday night. Maybe the Obama backers forgot to pay them off this month.
Hey, careful about Atlantic Monthly. Barbara Wallraff, a wonderful grammarian and word usage expert (Word Court), is an editor for that publication.
April 13th, 2008 at 7:04 am
Come on Alan, Citizens of small town Pennsylvania and American didn’t own guns, attend church or fear immigration prior to the closing of factories in the last 25 years? Of course they did, and they had real and valid reasons for doing so. Obama used a trite progressive narrative to rationalize why he’s losing in PA. He fundamentally disagrees with the values of the people he wants to vote for him, then he tries to delegitimize their concerns by demogoging economic bad times. Bad, Bad, BAD. He’s cooked.
April 13th, 2008 at 7:13 am
By the way, does all of this mean that Obama is going to give another explanation speech in which he doesn’t provide the answers to the questions that are really on everybody’s mind? I don’t want to have to hit my head again in an “I coulda had a V-8″ moment as I did with the Philadelphia speech when I found out it wasn’t about why Obama stayed in the foul-mouthed pastor’s church for 20 years and instead it was about a laundry list of things that I still haven’t compiled.
Look for a lot of flags and some nifty issue switching–to be followed by swooning commentary from Roland Martin.
April 13th, 2008 at 7:30 am
This is one time where Hillary has it right on the money.
Small town folks are no more bitter than anyone else. Fishing and hunting are a part of the culture, and whether you care to admit it or not, they are spiritually rich in their faith because of their religion. They don’t need yoga to connect to their inner being.
Fox Network is broadcasting Obama’s comments. So? He was crazy enough to say them. What he did was like loading a gun, handing it to his enemy, and now liberals are whining because the other guy pulled the trigger!
Yeah, what Obama-rama did was more than stupid. There are two things you never, ever, do when it comes to small town folks.
1)Never make fun of their Mom
2)Never make fun of their home town
April 13th, 2008 at 7:40 am
Well now. We can agree that midwest and Pennsylvian small town folks won’t like it. Anybody else? Check one off from an Urban New Southern clinger, too.
April 13th, 2008 at 7:50 am
Keep right on inserting that size 15 foot in your mouth O-bahhhh-ma.
The liberal sheeple will always love you, but rational humans have long ago seen both you and Hilary for what y’all really are….
How’s it feel to know that you’ve damaged any chance the Dem’s had in ‘08 FAR beyond the fantasies of even the most rabid neocon?
heh.
April 13th, 2008 at 7:57 am
This man has a view of life we have yet to understand. Pundits, and scripted speeches are only opinions and camouflage. However, it seems when he speaks spontaneously, clues as to his core values emerge. So far, what has appeared is troubling.
April 13th, 2008 at 8:03 am
Foolish elitist liberals. Rural voters go to church, support gun ownership and the second amendment, support heterosexual marriage, and oppose uncontrolled illegal immigration for any number of reasons, just as you Marxists choose your own political values. Lumping rural voters into a little ball of bitterness, all motivated by the closure of a steel mill in 1980 seems a little stupid and … elitist.
Obama is an idiot, blinded by the affirmative action cocoon that has surrounded him his whole life. I also see a little projection in his “bitter[ness]” comments. This is the defining characteristic of his entire group of Trinity UCC race-haters.
April 13th, 2008 at 8:25 am
The best part about Obama’s words on ’small town America’ was that they were spoken during the Getty Oil fundraiser held at San Francisco’s Billionaire Row.
The absolute worst of the worst Progressive Socialists are the Billionaire ones.
Give me liberty from Progressive Socialist tyranny or give me death!
April 13th, 2008 at 8:42 am
It’s not just “conservatives” who are hopping mad about Obama’s anti-rural White America remarks. We libertartians are furious, as well. Obama just slammed gun rights, and our rural rough individualistic values. How very Marxist of him.
Bob Barr, Libertarian Presidential candidate just issued remarks out of North Carolina, ironically, attacking Obama on his condescending statements the other day.
You’ve got moderate Democrats, even Hillary, John McCain and the Republicans, and now the Libertarian Party up in arms about Obama.
Perhaps that’s a sign, that the guy has no hope over ever gathering a winning coalition around his candidacy, despite all the affirmative action hoopla from the liberal media.
April 13th, 2008 at 8:49 am
I wonder how Barack Hussein Obama can justify the belittling of small town Pennsylvania for “clinging” to their religion after having taken his family to the same church for so many years to listen to the likes of The Right Reverend Wright and his marxist based black liberation theology. Small towns in PA have no affirmative action and those folks are not the protected group. They get no special care. They get it in the back from politicians like Obama instead.
Having been raised in the Chicagoland area and after observing the results of the so-called “liberal” democrats in government who possess those totalitarian tendencies to control every facet of the citizens’ lives, deny second amendment rights, force the cost of their sanctuary city on the common taxpayer while expanding their political base, I’ll take this small Georgia town I live in over that socialist nonsense without any after-thought.
I have seen his proposed legislation to give away around $800 million to global poverty relief but I have not seen all that legislation he has proposed that would actually benefit those small town folks from PA. Change? What change. Si Se Puede, Yes We Can, is a terrific pandering slogan but it just don’t get the job done.
April 13th, 2008 at 9:08 am
First he bowls a 37 in Altoona. Now he hates small town America. It makes sense.
April 13th, 2008 at 9:09 am
If this is true, Obama should say more things like this. Please do it often and publish this truth for eveyone to benfit from the insights of Obama.
And pass me the Kool-Aid, while you’re at it…
April 13th, 2008 at 9:15 am
He opens his mouth and it’s like Christmas for the Republicans and Hillary.
April 13th, 2008 at 9:58 am
Condescending Mr. and Mrs. Smalltown Pennsylvania (America) was an eventuality when considering the attitudes displayed by the Obamas.
Michelle Obama was a stunner at Villanova University when she continuously whinned about the obligatory burden she and Borack had because (boo hoo) they had to pay back their government subsidized education via student loans. NOW LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT…she and Borack made $1,300,000.00 +/- income in 2006 and she’s whinning!!!!!!! Just who did she think she was addressing @ Villanova????? “Salt-of-the-earth” people who struggle everyday to achieve the “American Dream”.
Mr. and Mrs. Obama sat for twenty years under the auspices of the hate-monger-in-chief, Reverend Wright, and he dares to attempt to deminish a diverse religious ardor in small-town Pennsylvania and/or America.
Folks, this man appears to be a total fraud: a probable “Manchurian Candidate”. Beware….his LA slip was definitely “Freudian”…..the genuine view “coming to roost”.
April 13th, 2008 at 9:58 am
The interesting thing is that Sen. Obama is pigeon holing great swaths of America, almost writing us off, as xenophobic gun toting, Bible thumping neanderthals.
April 13th, 2008 at 9:58 am
My dear conservatives, please don’t call them “liberals”. Check where the term “liberal” comes from. It has Latin roots, just like the word “liberty”. Those people you call “liberals”, they don’t care about “liberty”, or freedom. They are not liberals, they are simply left wing fools who follow a retarded ideology (which has proven not to work countless times). They want a political entity such as the POTUS to influence the economy (the countries of Eastern Europe have seen where state influence on the economy leads to). They want health care for everyone (even for those people who have never worked in their lives, who refuse to work), which will lead to a massive rise of taxes. A true liberal would NEVER cheer for Obama’s or Hillary’s ideas, after all their ideas put a stop to… liberty and freedom.
As for Obama, the way I see it is: He has no idea about anything. He’s a total rookie. Oh, he rambles about “hope” and “change”, but what’s his actual plan? Hot air doesn’t equal a plan, it’s just hot air, just words. He has no plan, he’s just lost. Obama as president means that the US will be the laughing stock of the world. Every islamic or communist dictator will laugh his butt off and will do whatever he wants, simply because he knows that Obama as president will castrate the US. They’re just waiting for something like that.
Apart from that… Adolf Wright, his favorite preacher, is a racist. His own father was a racist communist (wanting to take all the companies away from “Whites” and “Asians”). His wife is a racist (her anti-American ramblings and her support for Adolf Wright are nothing else but that). But he isn’t? He missed it all? He never realized it? Not even in a 20 year timeframe? Yeah, right. And I’m Pu Yi, the last Emperor of China.
Oh yes, Obama is liked in Europe. The same Europe that is spearheading his politics (which means: turning Europe into what Orwell described in his great novel 1984). If you don’t believe that, come and live in Europe for a year or two. Pay massive taxes, pay insane amounts of money for gasoline and have the EU and the state breath down your neck with more and more stupid relations, while your right for freedom of speech is cut down little by little.
This is exactly why you don’t let a rookie run for POTUS. He has NFI.
April 13th, 2008 at 9:59 am
Addition: My cat would qualify as POTUS just as Obama does. And my cat is cuter. So, vote for my cat!
April 13th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Barrack Obama’s comments are not offensive to me simply because of some supposed indifference to small-town America. They are offensive to me because the underlying logic is so completely wrong and false, and could constitute the basis for policy decisions that my tax dollars would fund.
Small towns are not a haven for bitterness. In fact, having lived all over the country, coast to coast and North to South, I’ve found that small towns are a haven for happiness and community.
Small towns are not a haven for xenophobia and guns. Rather, look to large cities for these things. Rarely in a small town would you have neighborhoods where people don’t mix; there’s not enough space. Rarely in a small town would you find a gun problem, and especially an illegal gun problem. That’s a big city issue.
The point I will concede to Mr. Obama is that small towns are a center for religion. Overwhelmingly, these religious centers are the focus of extremely positive behavior – thrift stores, volunteerism, community activity, and good deeds abound.
What strikes me most is the profound arrogance Mr. Obama’s comments show. Small town America has had guns, religion and community through good times and bad. There is little correlation to the output statistic of crime to the input variable of guns, behavior and, most impressively, religion. Though these small towns are resource poor and lack in cosmopolitan flavor, they make up for it in character and heart. We would all do well to understand and adopt some of their mannerisms.
I cannot continue to believe that Mr. Obama is a serious contender to warrant the Presidential office.
April 13th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Colmes, I understand why you are defending Obama… he is just saying what you and your leftist friends know is true and the rest of us just can’t seem to figure out, right?
I think we need to hear more off-the-cuff remarks from the good Senator. We have so much to learn from him that will help us know how to vote in November, when I predict we will send his ass back to the political oblivion for which he is so highly qualified.
April 13th, 2008 at 10:17 am
Hope? Change? Ha. By the time Obama’s done with America all we’ll have is hope that we’ll have some change for a cup of coffee. This remark of his along with so many others – and those of his wife as well – shows me that this man is nothing but a die-hard Marxist who will destroy America with his policies. But then, that’s what you liberals want, isn’t it?
April 13th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Yea, sure-”he understands smalltown America”. “I feel your pain you rotten racist, religious zealot, immigrant, gun-toting rural America haters.
Sure, smalltown America is bitter. Nice try B.Hussein Osama-you’re knee deep in this one. You’ve just labeled the core of your party as white racist bigots. Your onion is peeling layer by layer and revealing the marxist elite socialist Farakhan left winger that you are.
Go ahead, don’t explain it just keep offering spin my man.
April 13th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Obama is a smooth talker. He is a charmer. He has something Messianic about him.At times he tries to sound like a Dr. King for the XXI century.
He does attract followers. Educated young ones and blacks especially.
The idealistic and/or naive kind.
But the truth is that Obama is nothing but a creation of the Cultural-Marxism which since the 60’s has infected our Higher Education. Spread by neo-comunit academics and intelctual its purpose is to bring Western Society down, something Soviet-Marxism failed to do through arms and violence.They were stupid, these guys are smart.
The Cultural-Marxists ( Liberals & Socialists) will be patient and go slow. They will use their invention, Political Correctness to stiffle dissent and prevent adversary’s from making their points of view public. They resent debate ubless it is in their own terms.The media has given in to them.
Their aim is destruction of traditional society and its faith and vakues, to be replaced by a new set of secularist /atheist values. It is a neo-paganism like situation where ecology and the likes become the new cults, the new age religions defended by zealots who are as rabid as fascist-muslims.
But in the end I am convinced that it will be the Islamo-Fascists who will conquer the West.
Europe has already accepted defeat without even having fired one shot. And Turkey with its 70 million muslisms is not even within the European Union yet. Wait until 25% of Europe’s population is muslim….
Obama is the “mole” of the new culture who like a kind of Manchurian Candidate must be elected to speed up the CHANGE.
April 13th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Good Morning
Hi, I live in small town Virginia and am an independent voter; and yes I am mad and bitter about our government. I think the middle class is caring the load for the Nation and there is no help in the horizon. The government assists big bank and Wall Street while the middle class dwindles away. I work over 50 hours a week put my first daughter trough college am putting my second one, very penny out of my pocket. The rich do not have to worry about it the poor get all the benefits they can get; so who is left to foot the bill? Yes the middle class. I think Obama got it right when he say small town America is mad and bitter heck the whole middle class should be mad and bitter. That does not mean we are quitting doing what we are supposed to. But please give us a brake; also do not criticize the Senator from Illinois for telling the truth. Go after the real issues like President Clinton and Senator Clintons lead advisor working for the Colombian trade agreement. That is double talk from Sen. Clinton. That is just saying one thing to get elected while actions are talking louder. How someone is going to manage the country when bill collectors are hounded their campaign?? That is some showing on lack of leadership and management practices. How can the candidate not agree with a trade agreement and her husband and lead campaign manger agree with it? The answer is lack of leadership. Another issue that you should be looking at closely is the Bosnia story. Someone that have all the foreign politics experience Senator Clinton claims should know better that insult the commanders in charge of the Bosnia mission at that time with a made up story of sniper fire. She is not only insulting the commanders in the ground intelligence but is also insulting the country. Do you think a good commander and country are going to put the President of the US and her daughter in danger? Please do not insult people’s intelligence like that. I see her lack of experience and know how.
April 13th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Thanks Barak H. Obama for handing the election to McCain!
April 13th, 2008 at 11:13 am
Unemployment is at a level that economists, just 20 years ago, thought impossible. They used to call 6% unemployment “full employment.”
April 13th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Ed,
Even if you believe Obama has accurately described a sentiment in working-class folks, do you think that more government regulation, higher taxes, and increasing statist policies in every area of your life are going to improve the situation?
Because this is Senator Obama’s “remedy” for what ails you. More and more of your money for fewer and fewer Constitutional liberties.
Is government (esp. at the federal level) in bed with special interests while the middle class gets screwed? You betcha. But the special interest lobbyists are only there because trillions of dollars are coming out of Washington. Stop the gravy train and the lobbyists will go away. And you can only stop the trillions coming out of Washington by preventing those trillions from going into Washington in the first place. Lower Taxes — for everyone.
Lower Taxes. Stop the Congressional earmarking and pork; it has massively corrupted the legislative process.
Above all — don’t trust ANY politician, Democrat or Republican, who promises to do anything for you that will require the raising of anyone’s taxes. They may promise to soak the rich and the corporations for your sake, but make no mistake … yours is the pocket that will ultimately get picked.
Senator Obama is the same-old, same-old leftist ideologue when it comes to his view of the role of government. Reason #1 for me to not vote for him. Turns out, he also thinks my primary motive for going to church is my sub-$40K income (Reason #2 to pull the lever for someone else), and that my friends who are hunters are scary, gun-clutching troglodytes (Reason #3). And that the lot of us are anti-immigrant bigots.
Gee, he just keeps piling on the compliments.
Yah, that’s definitely the kinda guy I want to be POTUS.
Not.
April 13th, 2008 at 11:47 am
From a former left winger and the daughter of a doctor who grew up in Ohio and has lived in Southern Cal for 25 years, I can tell you that Obama is a condescending, pandering elitist. My family and I have front row seats to the end of America as we see the results of the ruling class sell us all down the river to Mexico, China, etc for a seat at the globalists’ table of power.
Aside from that, Pittsburgh said it better than I could and Alan Colmes is an idiot, but what can we expect from the weak-kneed sisters of the left?
April 13th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
[...] Indeed, as many have noted the last few days, these are arrogant and intolerant views from a man that has had some of the greatest privileges in living in America. As someone who lives in a small town, there isn’t anything new to this story… liberals have always felt this way about small town people. Just dig through press archives and I’m sure you’ll find many examples of this kind of arrogance throughout many circles of the liberal establishment. Here’s one example just this morning, as Alan Colmes of the FOX News channel responds to this controversy on his blog buy asking the question why is Obama wrong… And just where is he wrong? Pointing out why people may be bitter or frustrated, that there is xenop… [...]
April 13th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
And Sen. Obama knows this about small-town America how? Spiritual osmosis?
What *amazing* insights for a Chicago Yalie raised in Hawaii and Indonesia.
You guys might want to start preparing your screech-script about Diebold right now. At the rate Obama is antagonizing the middle, you’re looking at a 53-47 pounding, which is nothing short of stunning given all the advantages the Dems have.
April 13th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
After reading the other comments, I find myself wondering if the Obama-haters appreciate the irony of their misplaced anger and indignation. Do they realize that they are simply making Mr. Obamas’ point????
With your narrow minded, simplistic interpretations of his San Fran remarks and the fact that you are unwilling to accept that the statement was not intended to be derogative or inflammatory.
Maybe he’s more in touch with small town America than we can imagine.
April 13th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Exactly what did Obama say that is objectively wrong? Believe me, I know where he is coming from – this is seared in my mind – I live in the Midwest amongst these ignorant capitalist-pig brute-rubes. As any superior, brilliant philosopher or economist – from Karl Marx to Paul Krugman – can enlighten you, the only way to ease this economic bitterness and hatred is to tax these asshats to the sky. Only through onerous taxes and heavy regulation can true opportunity flourish. Only the most successful and righteous system in World History can save us now – socialism. As any person whom has rejected False Consciousness knows, the only good job worth having is most likely created by the State. It is finally time for these rubes to give a vote in favor of their self-interest…Obama!!! You know it, Amerikkka. Now come and give me a hug.
April 13th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Cher my dear, Obama in touch? Would you be a parishoner at a house of worship that designates Louis Farhakhan with a lifetime achievement award? Render your liberal opinion sure, but careful calling others narrow minded and simplistic because they don’t drink the Obama koolaid (nonsense) that has intoxicated you. If all Obama said was that many middle Americans in small towns are bitter due to loss of industry and jobs, no issue. What Colmes (and Obama) now deflect was his direct attack on religiosity, guns, and immigration-CODE for his continuing jab at white America. Sure’s he’s got every black vote in creation bobbing their heads to this false black hope-what he did was just jab at those whose vote he really needs come general election time.
Sure Cher, maybe he is in touch with America (perhaps at least on Sundays in his pew). But just maybe he and Michelle occasionally let slip how they really view America-and it ain’t hopeful, pretty, over even-handed. Good bye Barack baby-foot in mouth disease tastes good don’t it!
April 13th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Does it occur to the clueless Mr. Colmes that people cling to their guns because so many liberals are quite vocal about the fact that they think that the 2nd ammendment is archaic, and they wish America’s gun laws were the same as European countries who don’t believe in the right to bear arms?
Does it occur to the clueless Mr. Colmes that people cling to their religion because our liberal, politically correct, popular culture is constantly mocking and attacking Christianity? You can’t even call a Xmas tree a Xmas tree anymore, or wish someone a Merry Xmas, out of fear that you might be offending a member of the “oppressed” non-Christian minority. But it’s okay for universities to install special footbaths for Muslim students to do their ritual foot washing, and to set aside certain hours for Muslim women to excercise in university gyms without the presence of men. That’s all fine with the ACLU and the left wing atheist academics, because Islam is “cool”.
I understand that liberals cling to their obsession with appointing liberal judges to the Supreme Court because many religious conservatives are quite vocal about their desire to overturn Roe vs. Wade. I’m a conservative, but at least I’m not clueless like Mr. Colmes.
April 13th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
After reading the other comments, I find myself wondering if the Obama-haters appreciate the irony of their misplaced anger and indignation. Do they realize that they are simply making Mr. Obamas’ point????
With your narrow minded, simplistic interpretations of his San Fran remarks and the fact that you are unwilling to accept that the statement was not intended to be derogative or inflammatory.
Maybe he’s more in touch with small town America than we can imagine.
by Cher April 13, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Gee Cher, maybe you should teach the rest of us middle Americans who don’t own guns (but will soon) or go to church (but have no trouble with those who do) the nuances that you have gleaned so well during your life as a lefty. (Sarcasm off.)
Methinks that thou doth Project and Divide too much.
April 13th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
The guy is an out-of-touch, privileged dilettante, and his Harvard-style sociology is borderline crazy. Colmes has apparently drunk the Kool-Aid too. Neither of them can possibly contemplate that people “cling” to their religion because of their faith in it. or that they cling to their guns because it’s part of their heritage to do so.
And they may well wonder what caused Obama to cling to that hate-filled church for twenty years.
McCain gets 300+ EV’s.
April 13th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
When i first read Obama’s words I thought that they were uttered by my liberal brother who lives in a small town in Ohio and tolerates/hates those stupid, white, ‘one-issue voters’ that he sees every day. I’ll have the duct tape in place when i see him this summer because blood is thicker than politics AND I know it’s useless to argue with those who are convinced that they’re right when they’re left. Heaven knows I’ve tried.
April 13th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
“With your narrow minded, simplistic interpretations of his San Fran remarks and the fact that you are unwilling to accept that the statement was not intended to be derogative or inflammatory.”
Cher, honey, regarding the San Fran Fiasco, much of the press is omitted some of the quotation before and after what’s being quoted–which helps Obama because it makes him sound worse. Beyond that, as Obama supporters continually whine, it’s all about context. And, in this case, Obama’s audience was a wine-and-cheese crowd of fat cats whom he was hitting up for some dough. That was the setting. Then, he was asked why he was having so much trouble eating into Hillary’s lead in PA. In response, he dumped on Midwesterners from small towns to explain his predicament.
At this point, the best he can do is offer an abject apology and plead that he was embellishing his difficulties because he wanted some West Coast liberals to pry open their wallets.
Do you want to give him a do over? Look, he got caught speaking his mind. And his non-apology apology makes matter only worse.
He’s clueless.
April 13th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
The more I hear Obama, the more I’m convinced the guy is a douche, an arrogant, condescending, elitist douche.
April 13th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
In small town America where “everybody” has guns and religion the murder rate is virtually non-existent, yet the inner cities – the bastions of liberalism where “no one” believes in guns or God – the murder rate is through the roof.
Go figure.
April 13th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
If Colmes and his supporters are tired of addressing the San Fran Fiasco, why don’t you inform us of Mr. Change’s track record in helping his Chicagoland community as a state senator. Other than taking a ghoulish position opposing an Illinois state bill abolishing partial birth abortions, my understanding is that he really did nothing more substantive than show up to votes and be counted as present.
He’s a blank slate, so things such as his longstanding association with Jeremiah Wright and any candid “locker room” comments are helpful in filling in the gaping holes of our knowledge of him.
April 13th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Here’s an interview with Obama on Charlie Rose Show in 2004, making essentially
the same point as he tried to make in San Francisco, though a wee bit better
said.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=a88wMPAWc90
April 13th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Uh.”Clinging” to Guns implies that only people who are bitter xenophobes own guns. Olympic shooting team be damned I guess.
But seriously, you don’t see how elitist and condscending this is? Really? I never thought it would be Hil Clinton carrying the torch for treating rural folks and the average gun owner with a little respect.
Why do you think that because someone disagrees with your views there is something wrong with them? You don’t see that kind of attitude as elitist?
April 13th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
If interested, check out the items available on Michelle Malkin’s site:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/04/13/by-popular-demand-snobwear/
April 13th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Hey Alan, watching you on this subject the other day was a hoot. Rather than admit Obama screwed up and insulted a major protion of Americans, you sat there squawking about how conservatives do the same thing. I knw you are payed well, and that is good, to me and many others you look like a little pipsqueak who is fearful that one day one of the persons you are talking to is gonna have enough and simply deck you with a good right fist. Cheer for Obama all you wish. It does not matter. That phony socialist is all done now. Stick a fork in him.
April 13th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
If you live in America right now and you’re not pissed about:
The economy
The War.
The authorization of torture, then you don’t have a pulse.
April 13th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
These comments just prove to me that Fox viewers are really a bunch of right wing neanderthals . How are you able to type with your knuckles?
April 13th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
[...] Conservatives Now Claiming Obama Hates Small-Town America At an April 6 San Francisco fundraiser, he said this: “You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and [...] [...]
April 13th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
To Sleepless in Cincy April 13, 2008 at 7:00 am
Thank you for giving me the answer, and I did see the video and noted the context before and after the quote.
My only problem and the problem I see on so many of these comments is the immediate derogatory interpretation.
The fact it is said in San Fran, the fact that it is Obama saying it and the fact that these “interpretations” seems to me pure recitations of right wing talk radio and very little work of “think for yourself” in listening accurately to the quote regardless of who says it.
I do not know what the guy really thinks and so do you.
But with the material you are provided with, the wise interpretation is certainly not to filter it with right or left wing ideology.
You are objectively faced with 2 possible interpretations and you took the worst possible according to your ideology.
My interpretation tells me that Obama attempted to give another look and comprehend why some individual and communities become hyper religious, why guns are a major issue in the life of these calm small towns and why some people become discriminatory…
… and all these comments shows perfectly the point Obama was making… why these people would never vote for him.
Now you can generalize that Obama talked about “ALL small towns population”, “ALL people of faith”, “ALL gun owners” and “ALL anti-immigration”… and alienated “ALL” of them… but don’t you see that as a little bit unfair?
April 13th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Come on guys everyone knows that Jesus, I mean Obama, can never be wrong.
by Jason April 13, 2008 at 12:23 am
Probably the same way that you view the Lord Reagan
April 13th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Hello, Chicago is also in the Midwest Folks
Everyone is not stupid or ignorant that does not live on the West Coast or the East Coast.
In traveling I have found that is often the mindset in those areas however.
People such as Obama who live above average have an elistist attitude and feel we should dumbly listen to their speech and believe what they say.
Obama has been Pushed by Oprah, who is pushing a teaching class that does not believe in Jesus the way millions of people have been taught , from the birth, the cross, the resurrection. They want to change our way of life, including our Christian beliefs. Check it out, you will see. Since she wholeheartedly went out for Obama, they both are pretty scary factors to me…. “Antichrist” Not for Me.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:31 am
I do not think personal attacts on Mr. Colmes or any other individual as name calling does anyone any good, and is unkind, being concerned about beliefs and what they hope do do about that is concerning enought to talk about..I feel Mr Colmes is doing the job he was paid to do when he jumps in and debates, probably not always his real feelings , its a job folks.
April 14th, 2008 at 4:34 am
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April 14th, 2008 at 7:07 am
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April 14th, 2008 at 7:09 am
l will like any sane person to apply to inner city black neighborhood. how will blacks feel if clinton or mccain make such statement about them.
April 14th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Obama is in love with the sound of his own voice.
April 14th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
As long as Hannity must have a liberal on his show, I would prefer that he have that nice looking young lady on the show instead of Colmes. I can’t think of her name, but she filled in for Colmes a week or so ago and she has been on Hannity’s weekend show. She seems so reasonable in some of her views that she seems more like a Republican than Democrat. She is the only liberal that shows up on Fox that I listen to. The rest I just wait until their mouths stop moving, then I release the “mute” button.
April 14th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
I beleive Hillary is making a bigger deal out of this than the “Conservatives”! I knew he’d put his foot in his mouth sooner or later. Love em or hate emm America cannot be won without the rural and southern vote. BTW those peaople dont forget..closed minded… once you betray them your done and you cannot win without them.
April 18th, 2008 at 12:10 am
Its so simple&easy for me to see! Republicans bad!very bad! After the current presidents mishaps: starting a war under false pretences, awarding gov. contracts to lobyist&friends, halliburton stock up triple the amount since busch took office, the whole 911 thing, the economy, gas prices, I can go on&on&on seriously I can.But their’s not enough room for me to write. Im sick to my stomach with this administration!
So how bad can a democrat be? Alan I know you must get paid well to sit next to that fake right wing nut Sean Hannity….lol… As for john Mcain he has no clue. He’s so out of touch with what Americans really need and want. Obama to me is the CLEAR choice! A people person in touch with all class’s not just the wealthy. Again so much to say!! not enough time. My point how bad can a democrat be??? Look what we have been going thru!! And a continuation of this is unexeptabele!! I want my country back!! Thx. Alan..And dont let them push u around they shout, you shout louder, they speculate about Obama,you point out the facts about Busch&Mcain, and trust me there are no postive ones………………
June 12th, 2008 at 11:04 am
McCain is not George W.Bush or Obama is Jimmy Carter. The difference is McCain risk his life for you and me. Obama did not. Why are we fighting in Iraq or Afganistan? Good question. Will you have them fight in our country instead? Why do we have to fight anybody?Iraq attacked Kuwait. The taliban attacked in Afganistan. And Japan attacked America while talking pease.To talk pease while being a predator and attacking others is not Christian,American,or civil. We Might be on the list next time.How can Obama tell others what to do if he does not know what to do himself?Obama does not want his patriotism question;took 20 years to find out his preacher,retains double duel citizenship; one for the USA and one for Kenya in SE Africa where his father is from.Vote for who you want. One who tells you what you want to hear and takes advantage of you. Or one who risk his life for your freedom and mine.
July 18th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
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August 1st, 2008 at 8:57 am
About Obama, What can be expected from one who has little or nothing to show? One who is green and unexperience, has lots of money? It sounds like George W. Bush. It could be Bush. But it’s Borack H. Obama. A lot can be expected. That is a lot of mistakes. Get Real. Deeds speak louder than words. How can you tell others what to do when you don’t know what to do yourself? Easier said than done. And with no experience. That’s even harder.
August 6th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Borack H. Obama has a half brother Malik Abongo, a father Borack Obama Sr., a cousin Raila Odinga who Obama Jr campaigned for in Kenya SE Africa, etc. When are we going to hear more of the stories of Obama duel double citizenship, sniffing coke in college, friends with William Ayers, Tony Rezko, Rev. Wright, Ft. Pflager ,etc.? Obama hasn’t done anything for the middle class voter before, he’s only helped himself. How did he rose to power so quickly? And why are so many Islamofascists who are sworn to the destruction of America campaigning for Obama ?What’s in it for them?
September 12th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Joe Biden as a Catholic holds number two position on Democratic Ticket. Joe Biden does not believe in abortion of babies. But Borack H. Obama believes in abortion of babies. And Obama holds the number one position on the Democratic ticket. Obama will supersede Joe’s Catholic beliefs any day of the week. And Obama will supersede anything he does not agree with. There is a conflick here. Unless Joe is a Catholic in name only.All joe wants is the title of Vice President of the USA no matter what. In that case, Joe will do the talk. Joe will not do the walk. That makes Joe a hypocrite. In my view I have no use for those kind of Catholics.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
How racism works
What if John McCain were a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating
class? What if McCain were still married to the first woman he said “I
do” to? What if Obama were the candidate who left his first wife after
she no longer measured up to his standards?
What if Michelle Obama were a wife who not only became addicted to pain
killers, but acquired them illegally through her charitable
organization? What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard? What if Obama
were a member of the “Keating 5″? What if McCain was a charismatic,
eloquent speaker?
If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election
numbers would be as close as they are?
This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes
positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in
another when there is a color difference.
September 17th, 2008 at 12:54 am
There is enough blame to go around for the money mess the country is in, Republican and Democrat.And one of the main culprits is Borack H. Obama.Obama is number two in geting contributions from Fannie and Freddie. And gets five times more than John McCain from Wall Street. No wonder Obama has a lot more money than McCain. He also wants to do away with the secret ballet for unions.What else does he want? Obama has plenty of money and nothing or little to show for it. He make a lot of promises. Sounds like George W. Bush. But it’s Obama.
October 3rd, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Once a muslim, always a muslim. This is the way Muslims believe. And Borack H. Obama has never said, never rejected, never deny that. He claims to be Christian. Is he?
October 5th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
You can’t distract us from the economy. Voters won’t tolerate the crap this year. Look at the Minnesota race for senator. Coleman has been thrown wheel barrels full of manure at Franken, and voters are rejecting Coleman. Keep up the garbage in the air and you will doom your candidate.
October 5th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Obama was only 8 years old when William Ayers bombed the pentagon and the nation’s capital. That’s true. Was Obama only 8 years old when he started his political career from Ayer’s house, when Obama was the first manager of Ayer’s organization, and served with Ayers, etc. Come on. Give me a break.
October 5th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Oh…shall we talk about McCain’s relationship with a financial pirate named Charles Keating? Great judgment used in that situation….and wasn’t he hanging with an unsavory character?
Be careful, someone said it is dangerous to trouble your own house…you inherit the wind.
October 5th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Borack H. Obama joined The Socialist Party in 1995. In 1996 he received their support when he ran for the state senate. Why did they supported him? Because he was a member, that’s why. He has spend 4to10 times more than John McCain.After he broke his promise to spend the same as McCain. McCain kept his promise. Obama did not. Obama appears like a desperate man trying to win an election with more money. And where is Obama getting the money? From Fannie and Freddie, Wall Street, Lehmann Brothers,etc. And where are this failed organizations getting the money to give to Obama? From you ,the tax payer and voter, that’s where. With that kind of money he can make all kinds of attacks against McCain more often. Example, he claims that McCain is going to cut social security in half leaving Sr. citizens out in the cold is not true. McCain is not going to cut S.S. , And SR. citizens will still have their benefits. And Obama was not 8 years old when he started his political career from William Ayers house.Or when he took 20 years to know his preacher,the Rev. Wright. Now he shows in his high horse to save you, the tax payer and voter, from the mess he created.
October 12th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Why did B.H. Obama voted 130 times PRESANT? When he did vote, on issues, he voted every time The Democratic Socialists of America Party line. Why?
October 17th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
#1. A present vote is a NO vote, with an explanation, like ,”there is a poison pill in the bill, that I can’t live with.’.
#2. There is no such thing as the The Democratic Socialists of America Party, unless we ALL go back to third grade, and we will call your party, The Republican Fascists of America.
#3. From the May Arizona Republic:
McCain not a maverick.”
“When it matters the most, he seldom bucks his own party.”
Examining his Senate record, the Republic found that since 1999 McCain almost never strayed from the Republican Party line.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
There is such a Party as The Democratic Socialists of America that Borack H. Obama belongs to. By the way , has Obama ever paid Hillary R. Clinton her campaign debt if she supported him? Or is this another broken promise of Obama, like his broken promise of spending the same amount of money as McCain in the CAMPAIGN? Obama is spending 4to10 as much as McCain in Tv, radio, mailings, etc. Does he want to win with money, or the issues and character?
October 19th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Looks like Hernan Cortez is conquering the mighty Aztecs again in Mexico. This time it’s Borack H. Obama conquering the good old USA. Thanks to Bush, not Montezuma.
October 21st, 2008 at 4:43 pm
TO criticize Sarah Palin is ok. To criticize Borack H. Obama is discrimination, hate, bigotry and every evil you can think of. I get the picture. Have you ever thought that the same GOD made all? Or do you believe there is a GOD? It makes no difference who you are. Do you believe and do accordingly? That is the difference.
October 23rd, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Obama said in Pennsylvania,”John McCain has ridden shotgun as George Bush has driven our economy towards a clif,and now wants to take the wheel and step on the gas.” Maybe that’s what Obama wants to do.Because he is thinking about doing that. McCain is not Bush, in spite of Obama trying to make them one and the same. This time McCain if he becomes president, will be at the controls, not Bush. Is Obama Jimmy Carter? Will Obama let Iran take American hostages and intrest rates shoot up? McCain keeps his promises in spending money like he did in his campaign. Obama breaks his promises like the one he broke of spending not more than McCain in the campaign. Why? Has he ever paid Hillery R. Clinton her campaign debt if she supported him? Or is this another broken Obama promise?
October 28th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
I am terrified of Obama. I wanted to vote for Hillary but my first choice was Dennis Kucinich. I voted for McCain as a vote against Obama. I do not believe Obama is for the poor. I believe he bargained on the ignorance of the young and poor and played the race card to win this election and it worked brilliantly. I believe race and racism will continue to be a major part of his presidency. I believe he will continue to use it against us. If anyone ever says anything against him or about him that he does not approve of, they will be branded a racist. I only pray he is not like the people he associates with and calls friends because if he is, then this country as we know it is doomed.
November 4th, 2008 at 11:34 pm