Stupidity

April 21st, 2008, 11:22 PM EDT

Pastor Roger Byrd of the Jonesville Church of God put this sign up outside his South Carolina Church.  He says:

“His name is so close to Osama I have a feeling he might be Islamic therefore he doesn’t recognize Christ.”

His congregation voted to keep the sign up. None of the members are African-American.

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  1. LOL… And they’re “Christian”? Well Jonesville, SC has a population of less than 1000… perhaps inbreeding has led to ignorance? (ref: http://www.city-data.com/city/Jonesville-South-Carolina.html)

  2. Time for the IRS to look into the “Jonesville Church of God’s” tax exempt status?

    Posted by anonymouse
    April 21st, 2008 at 11:37 pm
  3. Whoooo, I don’t even know where to start on that one.

    Damn.

  4. Might they pray for gray matter?

  5. Great story Alan!

    I will spread this story all over the net tomorrow!

  6. this election is going to be fun…by fun i mean annoying

    Posted by directorpooh
    April 22nd, 2008 at 12:56 am
  7. Noel, I just saw your reply to me from the April 19th stuff. Thanks for that.

    I’m not surprised you don’t have a comment for this church sign yet. Stupidity of this magnitude needs time to sink in.

  8. Hey Cheryl! I’m at Goodiemob@1up if you’d like to post at my blog.

    :)

  9. This is the kind of people we have that go out and vote.

  10. You might have to Google that….

  11. WWJD? Kick these hicks out of his house!

  12. Wow! They have a marquee just like the DQ!

  13. Humm…

    You know there might even be something to all this…

    Osama/Obama…Humm

    In fact, up here in the frozen north, we’re a little puzzled as to why 2 of your last 3 presidents were named after “Mad” King George III of England.

    After all doesn’t your own Declaration of Independence accuse him of having “plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people…” !?

    If that’s not terrorism, I don’t know what is…

    And as long as we’re playing the name game, what’s with this guy Newt? Nossir, I don’t like it.
    Newt? What’s that all aboot?
    Is he Canadian too?

  14. I’m reminded again of the untimely death of the short promising campaign of Shadolf Histler.

  15. lol, @ “Shadolf Histler”
    very Larsonesque…

    My favorite church sign ever was from a Baptist church and said:

    “At collection time remember: God don’t want the
    stuff that tinkles, He wants the stuff that crinkles”

  16. two words “SOUTHERN MANTALITY” any questions?

    Posted by carnival barker
    April 22nd, 2008 at 4:49 am
  17. Barak Hussein Muhammed Obama is his full name. Why not just say it?

  18. A Willie Horton hit job on Obama; the GOP is starting to swift boating Obama -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqLvTYMJN5A

  19. That they voted to keep it because his name isn’t Christian enough tells you volumes about that church.
    Gotta love South Carolina….they never cease to set the bar lower.

    Remember the KKK store, Alan Colmes? It’s still there, in South Carolina.
    http://aaopinion.blogspot.com/2008/03/civil-rights-activist-fights-kkk-store.html

  20. “RJ”- did you see Alan’s entry about the chubby swiftboating guy? Check that out, too.

    So, what if his dad was Russian instead of Nigerian, and his name was Barak “Frederich Marx” Obama? Or what if he was all white, his dad from Virginia, and his name was Barak “Jefferson Davis” Obama? In the first case there’d be even more “Obama’s a commie” talk. In the latter, I don’t know if anyone would really care.

    This sign is so dumb.

  21. Well, being from Virginia would be a plus in my book.

    As for the sign, I guess “humm” is supposed to say “hymn,” but whatever the case, if it says humm, the last line should rhyme. This guy is an awful poet.

  22. No Wheelies… it’s SUPPOSED to say “hmmm”. Not only is he an awful poet, he’s a poor speller… perhaps even an ILLITERATE PEASANT. lol (see Alan’s “Good thing that photographer wasn’t an ‘illiterate peasant’ entry)

  23. The issue of people clinging to religion and guns is a statement that is true. It is not condescending to mention reality. There has been a push by conservatives to fuse religion and government, with out a doubt. Has any faith-based program solved any problem or political issue facing the US? No. Have the faith-based programs eliminated poverty, a poor economy, increased national security, fixed health care, or stopped the flow of jobs overseas? No. Does religion help end the hate of homosexuals, Muslims, or Atheists? No.
    Has religion created a more tolerant or non-discriminatory society? Not much. You cannot run an economy or a government on faith. You cannot conduct a scientific research project with faith. People in small towns or large cities have been herded like sheep into believing that secular government is evil, Atheists are out to convert you, and that faith-based programs can do a better job than the government. Conservatives have been in charge of government for the majority of the past 20 years, so if government has failed, it is because they do no believe in it and they have let it fail. It is easy to claim that government does not work if you do not believe in it in the first place and continually dismantle its foundations. It is easy to claim that regulation or government is defunct or broken when they have broken the governmental system from the ground up. Then many conservative republicans or libertarians usher in the church or free market solutions as a replacement for government. This is not good for Liberty, Justice, and the Constitutional American Way. Has the faith-based program of abstinence only for teen sex problems worked? No. Many conservatives fall back on the gun issue or the 2nd amendment as the only amendment that is under threat. They cling to the 2nd amendment while ignoring the rest of the constitution. At the CPAC meeting conservatives applauded John Yoo and his lack of respect for the constitution. What good is the 2nd amendment if we have no privacy, due process, or equal branches of government? Nothing! We can cling to our guns while living in a nation with a constitution that is the victim of legal termites. We can cling to the 2nd amendment gun rights while all the other aspects of a free society go the way of the Dinosaur. Does Posse Commutates or Habeas Corpus mean anything? Do the same conservatives who cling to their guns care about the Executive Branch (the President) grabbing the power of a King? I am afraid that the gun rights issue is used to distract people from the fact that most of the constitution no longer is in effect. While they pry your gun from your cold dead hands, those who take your gun did it by removing your other rights first. We should cling to the constitution, for that is all that matters.

    Posted by John David Prince
    April 22nd, 2008 at 4:43 pm
  24. Religion and the 2nd amendment are used as a distraction while our other rights and protections from overreaching government are removed. This is not to say that the freedom of religion or the right to bare arms are not important; rather it is to say; do not be led astray. We have lost or given the government power where they have not had it before. The exact opposite of limited government proclaimed by many has happened. We have removed the protection of the individual, like due process, the use of federal military forces upon the domestic population, and the privacy of our person, place, papers and effects. We can cling to our Bible or our gun and it will not bring back the separation of powers, due process, privacy, or the rule of law and not of men. We always hear conservatives talk about their gun as a tool to defend against an overbearing government. That is a joke. The US government has the weaponry and surveillance to put down any armed insurrection by citizens without breaking a sweat. So it is a complete joke of an excuse when conservatives argue that their gun will protect them from the government acting in some intrusive manner. The only use for a gun is for hunting or personal protection from assault by another individual. The only way to protect people from intrusive, big government power is to keep the aspects of the entire constitution intact. The greatest threat to our Liberty is a Unitary Executive Branch (Unitary President) and the granting of power to the government while giving up the protections of the Bill of Rights. For the 2nd amendment to mean anything all the amendments have to be in effect. We have to understand that all the amendments prop up one another. They are codependent rights. With out privacy there is no freedom of speech; with out privacy there is no freedom of religion. With out due process and the Rule of Law your gun is nothing more than a decoration. The protection of our individual sovereignty is defended not only by the 2nd amendment; rather it is defended by what used to be the Constitution and the Bill of Rights prior to this administration. Weather you have religion or a gun will not stop intrusive surveillance of your every action or thought. Religion and a gun will not stop the value of the dollar from crashing. They will not stop pollution, job loss, sinking wages, corporate fraud or abuse, and government corruption. They will only give you a false sense of safety in a world ruled by lawyers, money, and big business interests. If you doubt me study the very religious people of Europe who were taken advantage of, they were called serfs or commoners. The serfs were people ruled by Monarchies that took advantage of their innocent faith in religion. They were told that Kings and Queens were a bloodline of Divine Heritage. When the truth was that they were slaves in a land of a privileged few. Religion can bring you spiritual comfort when times are difficult. But that is where it ends. Religion and guns cannot protect you from your government’s abuse or failure, yet we continue to pray for things to change. Nothing will change unless we do it ourselves. Obams is actually giving us the old conservative bootstrap argument, only in a different way.

    Posted by John David Prince
    April 22nd, 2008 at 4:43 pm
  25. This is for those who doubt the need for secular government in the US.
    We do not consider that much of the covenants or Biblical law is not legal in our modern secular world. Christianity, Judaism, and Islamic religious beliefs have one thing in common, the Old Testament and many of the same prophets. Think about or read the Old Testament or New Testament and consider what verses are by modern legal standards, not legal. The list is long. If you do not believe me, please do the research for yourself. Here are some verses that are against the law in the U.S.A. and the modern secular world.
    (Leviticus 20:13/24:16/24:10-15/25:44//27:29/, Numbers 15:35-36/31:31-40, Deuteronomy 22:28-29/21:15/21:18-21/22:13-24/13:6-18, Hosea 2:2-13/9:12-16, Exodus 35:2/21:7, Zechariah 13:3, Judges 11:30-40, Daniel 11:30-39, Jeremiah 12:14-17, Matthew 5:25, Samuel 15:3/10:21, 1st Samuel 15:3, 1st Timothy 2:12, Psalm 12:3/137:8-9 These are only a few examples. Concubines and multiple wives are illegal in the modern world yet are permitted within the Bible. I am thankful for secular, rational government otherwise we would live in a nation reminiscent of Afghanistan under the Taliban. Yet there are some people here in the U.S.A. that would be perfectly fine with Biblical Law becoming the Law of the Land. This is why we must defend the separation of Church and State by denying or refusing government Promotion of Religion. If we do not we loose our precious Liberty. Some Christians would argue that Christ would not enforce these verses. They would be incorrect due to the very fact that Christ was Jewish and held Moses Law in high regard. Christ mentions Old Testament Law many times through out the Bible. Jesus refers to Moses directly in verses (Matthew 5:17, John 5:45-47, Luke 24:44, John 6:19-23, and Hebrews 11:23-29). At any time Christians can revert to the now illegal aspects of the Bible. There is much in the Bible that is unethical, immoral, and despicable. Unfortunately it is the God of the Bible who is the one acting with such ugly behavior. This is the reason why religion and government must always be separated as our constitution has wonderfully provided for.

    Posted by John David Prince
    April 22nd, 2008 at 4:43 pm
  26. Oh, for the love of all that is holy, John, please just make blog posts and link them. I beseech thee.

  27. surely someone in that church has the guts to stand up to this “so-called” pastor and make him take it down. holy cow. pun intended.

  28. John David Prince with all do respect a blog isn’t the place to write the great american novel.

  29. Wheelies… LOL honestly, I honestly doubled over laughing. But John does make some interesting points.

    btw, do you think that John David Prince is “John the Trucker”? Sounds like something he’d write, doesn’t it? :-)

  30. just saw zoey’s post… hilarious. on that note, i’m going to have to sign off and check back in after alan’s show starts.

  31. I’ve never read his posts in full. I’m not going to reward him for causing eye strain where it doesn’t belong.

  32. Reading Johns post I almost thought I had gotten a case of ADD…just a thought or two and then move on, PLEASE!

  33. Typical bible belt lunacy. Since when does recognizing Christ have any bearing on whether or not someone will be a good president in a country where CHURCH AND STATE ARE SEPARATE?

  34. Eat your heart of Jeremiah Wright

  35. Eat your heart out* jeremiah wright

  36. This is just another case of “just don’t get it!” The sign has NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE or POLITICS. It has everything to do with RELIGION. The church is trying to get people in America to get their heads out of the sand and recognize a religious problem. I thought that was what churches were supposed to deal with.

    Radical Islamists have declared war on America and the rest of the “Infidels” in the western part of this world. They have very plainly stated their intention is to kill us. They teach it in their schools where Obama attended. Obama refuses to renownce Farrakan and Wright who espouse the same hatred of America. Obama’s uncle is an active member of a Islamic tribe in Africa.

    Doesn’t any of these facts make you stop and think mmmmmm. That is all that the good pastor of the church was trying to get you to do. Sure it was risky and drastic, but it got your attention. Now that you have been made aware of the problem, what are you going to do about it. Remember Nero, he fiddled while Rome burned. WAKE UP AMERICA BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by truth detector
    April 23rd, 2008 at 6:22 pm