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By Wheelies For Gutfeld 03/05/2008 at 9:58 amForgot to mention. Zinn made at least one mistake. Wright’s way of presenting the adage “violence begets violence” does not matter to many, perhaps most, of the people who despise it, at least when it’s applied to the US. Sugar spoons won’t help.
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By cherylcarroll 03/05/2008 at 9:40 amNoel! You are just too much, boy! LOL
The only “good” posts I do are about racism. That’s an issue close to my heart. I’m a total sap when it comes to understanding people and wanting people to understand each other. I take it too seriously sometimes and get emotional, which is why I’m on vaca from Wright and Obama. I think that’s basically what you’re saying to.
So, how ’bout them Yankees?
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By Noel 03/05/2008 at 2:55 amOMG for real? What a douchebag!
Sheesh, now that Mcain calls his wife a c#nt, I suppose conservatives love the word.
Your right about Glen Cheryll, I’ve always admired your want to see both (or three or four) sides of an issue and I too find Glenn enjoyable, but he has totally embraced this idea that Obama and Michelle are racists. (or worse)
Today I heard him say to America “I compare what Michelle says against Wright and they’re the same!” He followed with “That’s how you know who Obama is”
He’s drawn lines that don’t exist and they all do it. Wright and by default Obama have been called bigots, racists, America haters, and Bill Oreilly (another guy I like but disagree with) drew a line of comparison to Al-queda, Hamas, and terrorists to Wright…and consequently Obama.
It’s like Harry Potter where we’re afraid if Obama turns around we’ll see Wright on the other side with toungue-lashing vile. Bwaaaaaaasppptttt!!
I’m really curious to see what America does in the next couple of months because I feel God is watching and the world definitely is and I suppose the international community has a lot to say about what we do. (Since we obviously have a lot to say about what they do)
You’ve been doing some really good posts here Cheryl.
Ah, my wife is calling me to bed, I better go, I have some cuntlicking to attend to. P:
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By cherylcarroll 03/05/2008 at 2:30 amDid you see the posts where that guy called me a liberal ‘cuntlicker’? good times noel, good times
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By cherylcarroll 03/05/2008 at 2:28 amMan, I love Glenn Beck. Him and Alan are the only 2 guys I listen to regularly. That’s so funny you’ve been trying to get thru about the Wright issue, b/c so have I (I wake up too late to call most days, lol). I emailed him a couple of times, but then just gave up. He’s totally stuck in “Wright’s a dangerous racist”. I still like him, b/c he’s very honest and sincere, but I’ve stopped listening b/c I’m sick of his unwitting portrayal of Wright and black theology as totally wrong and negative. I’m taking a break on the Wright issue myself. I’m no longer interested in going head to head and point to point with others and trying to help them understand the perspective, b/c in most cases they don’t want to understand.
I love what you say about the example of democracy we’re displaying for Muslims… *sigh* no wonder this cycle of hate for the infidel continues.
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I really wish I had some ice cream right now….wait I have some ice cream….yay me!
May 3rd, 2008 at 12:02 am
One more random thing…there’s a Dockers commercial with the song “California Soul” on it…man that song sounds good!
May 3rd, 2008 at 12:06 am
11:10pm Central….Ron Paul call….it’s like a sunrise.
May 3rd, 2008 at 12:11 am
can somebody tell oreilly to stop talking about how much $$$$$$ he has??? Its getting very old.
BTW give him a reality check, the poor and middle class are keeping the alqueda sword off his neck.
they would be here by now you know
May 3rd, 2008 at 12:14 am
Director Pooh~ i JUST made a bowl of ice cream, and am decided to check the blog while i’m letting it soften.
I could care less what McCain calls his wife. The excerpt that Alan read the other night doesn’t seem to say that she cared. Maybe they talk dirty to each other… maybe she calls him Mr. McNasty… and he likes it.
May 3rd, 2008 at 12:25 am
cherylcarroll….glad to know someone else lets their ice cream soften…thought it was just me! :)
I’m a Hillary supporter, but I am so sick and tired of the Rev. Wright stuff with Obama. It’s latest racism behind all of this I feel
May 3rd, 2008 at 12:29 am
It’s not racism, directorpooh…it’s just plain nonsense…and as a Barack Obama supporter I think all this stuff about forcing my candidate to take responsibility for what Wright says is offensive, along with the attitude about ‘well he spent 20 years with that church?”" Good grief….I guess that is supposed to make people feel better about not likeing this pastor…blame Barack for that……this is such a non-story already, as offensive as it is, that it was made one in the first place…..and the next bit of craziness is William Ayers…..oh don’t get me started on that one……what’s gonna be next….lets investigate Barack’s dentist, or the busdriver that drives the bus down the same street that Ayers lives on…….
May 3rd, 2008 at 12:39 am
Alan, thanks for asking Zinn about the dissent and patriotism quote.
May 3rd, 2008 at 12:43 am
Lucieann we are in agreement…i explained it poorly…i support Hillary, but if Obama is the nominee, I’m voting for him.
May 3rd, 2008 at 12:50 am
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May 3rd, 2008 at 12:55 am
I’m a Hillary supporter. I defended taking another look at Wright’s comments, but I’m not sure that I dig everything he stands for. I understand where he gets his perspective from, though. A lot of people don’t, and they don’t care to try to understand it. They just see an angry black man bitching about racial injustices.
What we fail to recognize is that:
1. The racists who helped enforce Jim Crow laws and fought against desegregation are not all dead. Furthermore, many of these people had families that they influenced. How many of those individuals, growing up in prejudiced families, took on those same prejudices themselves?
2. Blacks of my generation (I’m 26) don’t usually have to confront racism the way that the generation before us did. Blacks really need to recognize that not all whites are prejudiced and harboring stereotypes about them, especially whites born after the Civil Rights Movement. HOWEVER, whites of all generations need to understand that blacks DO still face prejudice. The prejudice has changed, but it’s still there.
Regarding the color who attempted to refute that Jesus had brown skin by citing His transfiguration~ dude, are you really trying to say that b/c Jesus glowed white while he was being transfigured that His skin could not have been brown before that? The blinding white light was the aura of God surrounding him, not His skin color. And if His skin glowed a brilliant white everyday, I doubt He would have had so much trouble convincing people that He was the Messiah.
Regarding people who get pissed off at the brown skinned Jesus- First of all, if you’re a Christian and living in Christ’s love, why do you care? Second, a brown skinned Jesus represents a very likely reality (based upon His geographic location and nationality). Third, for centuries Christianity was representative of the purity of all things white, complete with a white savior. Black was always wrong, but white was always right and pure. For blacks to have realized that someone wonderful shared their skin tone was empowering. It defied the ‘black is wrong’ mentality that had been, for centuries, part of the American social reality.
May 3rd, 2008 at 12:59 am
I meant regarding the “caller” not “color”… my bad, I had black and white stuck in my head.
May 3rd, 2008 at 1:01 am
Noel~ dude, wtf? You haven’t been commenting here lately. You need to get on the ball, man.
Why don’t you just get a wordpress blog so that we can keep up with your blogs better? They’re all interesting and well written, just inconvenient to get to.
May 3rd, 2008 at 1:02 am
I’ll do that Cheryll, thanks.
I’ve been sort of avoiding the whole political nonesense as of late cherylcarroll.
I’m sort of ashamed of my country when I see how uninterested we are in the truth. I hear callers and see writers pour their heart and soul into bashing Obama for Wright and won’t spend a minute of their time trying to attain some perspective.
I used to think it was just ignorant people or unconcious racists but it’s not. It’s good ordinary Americans who say things like “How could Obama sit in that church for 20 years?”
When a little less self-centeredness and a bit more emphathy and perspective would show us that perhaps Barack Obama was exploring his black culture, his black community outside of his white parentage and upbringing. Perhaps he found some comfort in exploring the nature of Wright’s church when according to the 20 or so sermons I’ve found mainly preached Jesus and respectable issues -black and white issues.
I’ve spoken to mixed friends of mine and there are issues there that no one is talking about.
It’s just all so ridiculous when you consider was Obama thinking of Wright when he worked with white Republicans for ethic reform? Was he thinking of Wright when he worked for whites in his community building projects and formed healthy welcome alliances with respectful white law makers?
Everything about Obama’s life says “I am here to get passed all the crap that Washington wallows in and enact some real change” If he found some comfort in Wright’s civil rights rhetoric then judge him by his life as constitutional proffesor, state senator, and US senator, not by the outright lies, perversions, and unsubstantiated fears that half of our country embraces so so easily.
This is the democracy we’re advertising to muslims?
Listen to Glen Beck and see how easily he puts fear and hate into people’s hearts. I try to call, but can never get on.
It’s important Cheryll because our next president will need more than experience, he’ll need to have the intergrity to not take an easy road. He’ll need the God-given fiber to make a decision that on one hand will require sacrifice and intergrity for the greater good and on the other will be a fictional solution and easy road to failure.
Nothing Hillary has done shows me she is ready to take the high road for America. I feel she could all-to-easily lie to every working person in the United States and take a fortuitous, advantageous route to her percieved idea of “the right thing”
This is where experience fails. Like when a young Bobby Fischer handed Spassky his ass, I feel Obama is a prodigious student of principle.
And nothing about Reverend Wright contradicts who Obama is, not what we’re told he is.
So yeah, I thought I’d take a break.
Thanks for asking. :) :) :)
May 3rd, 2008 at 1:44 am
Oh and sorry for any misspelled words or poor grammer, I just sort of blabbered out the post -where I -at the least- usually look over whatever I say.
May 3rd, 2008 at 1:46 am
I have been looking in from time to time, I saw a couple of posts by a “John” something or other that seems pretty interesting, though I haven’t read it yet.
The topic had to do with our Lord Jesus and the law of the bible I believe. Which is funny because too many Christians site the “law says this” and “the law says that.”
It’s all true of course and there is plenty in the bible to address their times and customs.
But all those arguments fail on Jesus’s words in Matthew 5:17 when he says “I have not come destroy, but fulfill the law” of cours he says the law is still there till everything is “accomplished” (some say it has on the cross) but the fact is Jesus states righteousness is now based on your love. Your love for God, your love for the least of men, and your love of hope, and faith.
And your love of hate for homosexuals.
Oh wait nix that last one.
May 3rd, 2008 at 2:02 am
Ah Cheryl I just saw your post on my blog, (thanks for posting) and I have an answer to your concern about Obama’s “present” record.
In the book Obama wrote a couple years back, (Audacity of Hope) he has a good story about when he tried to pass a bill about requiring police to video record confessions and interrogations.
Well the bill was attacked on all sides. Progressives thought it coddled suspects and possible criminals, conservatives hated the regulation. The law enforcement fought against the requirements and Obama explains all the problems the bill faced.
Over the course of the story, you see how groups came together, compromises are reached, sides are softened and the bill doomed to die..passed.
This is typical Obama and it was brought up in several debates by Edwards and Clinton (remember that?)
Obama has always stated that every law he voted “present” on has a record of him proposing requirements for conservative agendas and liberal laws, as he told the fellow senators that suggestions and amendments needed to be addressed before a “yay” or “nay” could be authorized.
Besides, it’s not like he hasn’t voted on hundreds of other bills, he’s just called out on the ones he felt needed more work before a vote.
May 3rd, 2008 at 2:26 am
Night.
May 3rd, 2008 at 2:28 am
Man, I love Glenn Beck. Him and Alan are the only 2 guys I listen to regularly. That’s so funny you’ve been trying to get thru about the Wright issue, b/c so have I (I wake up too late to call most days, lol). I emailed him a couple of times, but then just gave up. He’s totally stuck in “Wright’s a dangerous racist”. I still like him, b/c he’s very honest and sincere, but I’ve stopped listening b/c I’m sick of his unwitting portrayal of Wright and black theology as totally wrong and negative. I’m taking a break on the Wright issue myself. I’m no longer interested in going head to head and point to point with others and trying to help them understand the perspective, b/c in most cases they don’t want to understand.
I love what you say about the example of democracy we’re displaying for Muslims… *sigh* no wonder this cycle of hate for the infidel continues.
May 3rd, 2008 at 2:28 am
Did you see the posts where that guy called me a liberal ‘cuntlicker’? good times noel, good times
May 3rd, 2008 at 2:30 am
OMG for real? What a douchebag!
Sheesh, now that Mcain calls his wife a c#nt, I suppose conservatives love the word.
Your right about Glen Cheryll, I’ve always admired your want to see both (or three or four) sides of an issue and I too find Glenn enjoyable, but he has totally embraced this idea that Obama and Michelle are racists. (or worse)
Today I heard him say to America “I compare what Michelle says against Wright and they’re the same!” He followed with “That’s how you know who Obama is”
He’s drawn lines that don’t exist and they all do it. Wright and by default Obama have been called bigots, racists, America haters, and Bill Oreilly (another guy I like but disagree with) drew a line of comparison to Al-queda, Hamas, and terrorists to Wright…and consequently Obama.
It’s like Harry Potter where we’re afraid if Obama turns around we’ll see Wright on the other side with toungue-lashing vile. Bwaaaaaaasppptttt!!
I’m really curious to see what America does in the next couple of months because I feel God is watching and the world definitely is and I suppose the international community has a lot to say about what we do. (Since we obviously have a lot to say about what they do)
You’ve been doing some really good posts here Cheryl.
Ah, my wife is calling me to bed, I better go, I have some cuntlicking to attend to. P:
May 3rd, 2008 at 2:55 am
Noel! You are just too much, boy! LOL
The only “good” posts I do are about racism. That’s an issue close to my heart. I’m a total sap when it comes to understanding people and wanting people to understand each other. I take it too seriously sometimes and get emotional, which is why I’m on vaca from Wright and Obama. I think that’s basically what you’re saying to.
So, how ’bout them Yankees?
May 3rd, 2008 at 9:40 am
Forgot to mention. Zinn made at least one mistake. Wright’s way of presenting the adage “violence begets violence” does not matter to many, perhaps most, of the people who despise it, at least when it’s applied to the US. Sugar spoons won’t help.
May 3rd, 2008 at 9:58 am