Michigan GOP: Obama’s Flag Is White
May 14th, 2008, 1:38 PM EDT
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The Kent County, Michigan GOP has put out this smear piece on Obama.
To our neighbors in need we provide help.
To a world in despair we show compassion.
Every day…we raise our families, celebrate our freedom, remember our heritage and strive to live up to our values.
But Barack Obama doesn’t see it that way, claims the video. He’ll open talks with rogue leaders, compromise our strength, mission and integrity in the world community because of empty promises from terrorists, and Hamas is excited about him being president.
See, I love smearing and mudslinging from both sides. It’s bad, perhaps, but it’s been worse in the past.
Try the election of 1800. Jefferson hired someone to call John Adams a hermaphrodite…and a pamphlet saying: “If Thomas Jefferson is elected president, murder, robbery, rape and incest will be openly taught and practiced.”
Great stuff. Generally speaking the political climate nowadays is much more tame than that.
May 14th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Well, before they even get as far as mentioning Barack, they’re indulging in sheer fantasy, that or whoever wrote the script is living in dreamland.
May 14th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
John Edwards just endorsed Obama.
May 14th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
So, Alan, I see you post under the name Epiphany…
I’ll start tracking your IP now…
May 14th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
RC~ Dude, you are so right. They are straight up in dreamland, they are LOST in dreamland. I was seriously sitting here like, “I guess things are different in Michigan?”. 4 real, I’m really wondering if gas prices are lower up there? Everyone’s conservative?
E~ I heard that, too. I am so disgusted, but that’s just me. These damned Democrats are in my opinion, in many cases betraying the Clintons. They need to chill out and let the rest of the Dems in the remaining states have their say. The DNC still has to decide, and when they go to meet they’re going to be looking at a lot more numbers to decide on who’s better against McCain. Commercials like this are just the tip of the iceberg, and this kind of thing is going to continue to be said about Obama, and I don’t think that he’s going to win the presidency.
May 14th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
I don’t know what to say Cheryl. Except that I am sincerely sorry that you are so disappointed. This kind of situation has happened to me a number of times before in the past but it’s just the way things are. Your candidate doesn’t always make it.
John Edwards was my original candidate. I really admire him. I thought he would be the best. My dream ticket was Edwards/Obama. He didn’t make it. So I switched to a Hillary/Obama ticket. But it’s not happening. I will be happy to support Obama.
For me it’s not the end of the world if my candidate doesn’t make it. I never get swept away by any politican. It isn’t about Edwards, Hillary, Obama. It’s about getting a Democrat into the Whitehouse. In the end I would have been happy with any of them.
May 14th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Thanks, E. I’ll get over it… ;0)
May 14th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Go Obama, full speed ahead!
May 14th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
I just also think having a black president would be a high honor… in my book.
Women being on top or just declaring leadership is a little overrated now and maybe about to become a thing of yesterday.
May 14th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
That “smear piece” that the Michigan GOP has put out is so unsubstantial and typical.
I’m still sticking to Obama and being as stubborn as a Hilary supporter. lol
May 14th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Ha ha, Rod. That’s funny. I think that we can all get pretty stubborn where our preferred candidate is concerned. :-)
May 14th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
I’m not as concerned about the color of his flag as much as the 57 stars on it.
May 15th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Alexa,I think that having a black president would be an enormous achievement for the race and I’m all for it. I just hope that those blacks that are supporting him are doing so based on his political positions and not the color of his skin which,from discussing this with my black coworkers,does not seem to be the case.
May 15th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Electing a President should be about the welfare of the country, and not about race. One minute it’s an enormous achievement for the race, and then you hope blacks are’nt supporting him because of skin color, and then you conclude they are’nt because of a couple coworkers? Brilliant Craig, the bull dung must be thick on the island, and you’ve been inhaling methane for far too long.
May 15th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
The majority of blacks are voting for Obama because he’s black and that is a fact. Gee, you don’t read the papers, or watch the news coverages of elections either. Just where the hell is Bull Island? Yep, a wanna be philosopher on methane.
May 15th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
And yes, the some blacks are voting for Obama b/c he’s black. But then again, most are not.
– It is just a fact this country still has discrimination in it; and maybe it just won’t ever go away. I understand most blacks are still angered b/c their ancestors got whipped to death. And there are still white people who are racist. Look, it would have been the same thing if a hispanic would be running for president, then most of the hispanics would of voted for him/her.
But then again, some hispanics would have not.
It all depends, this country has too much history with diversity and suffrage along with it. It is really up to us to be the “united” states of America.
May 15th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
I think that we should be careful with simply stating that blacks are voting for Obama b/c he’s black. With the Civil Rights movement of the 60s, blacks began to identify themselves with the Democratic Party as the Dems were at the forefront of fighting for the cause. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 helped to increase black participation in the political process (b/c they were no longer being barred from doing so viz a viz stupid Jim Crow laws). About two generations later, most blacks still align themselves with the Democratic Party platform. So in a democratic primary where each candidate will share basic democratic principles, b/c they all belong to the same party, why not vote for the black candidate? They’re voting based on the political principles, and based on the respect for a black person who has accomplished enough to be worthy of their vote.
May 15th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
I made a comment to Craig that I see most of you read without understanding. Slavery ended over a lifetime ago, my ancestors and I had no part of it so I’ll not apologize for it. It ended, it’s over, and if some are still angered over it they need some therapy. As long as discrimination is used as an argument, it will never go away. If it did some people (Sharpton & Jackson) would be out of work. And, the fact is still fact. The majority of blacks have and will vote for Obama because he’s black. But, you can whitewash it anyway you like.
May 15th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
And, just for the record, I can name several blacks who would make outstanding Presidents in comparison to the three lame ducks we have a choice of. They are Alan Keyes, Condoleeza Rice, or Colin Powel. I would’nt even use Obama’s name in the same breath.
May 15th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Well I have served in the military for about 8 years now. Been half way round the world to about 20 countries and I cannot begin describe the heaviness of discrimination that I have heard and seen in this country; we are the most diverse. Soldiers and sailors can not really disclose of this but hey, whatever, I’m not serving anymore so this is the truth. So yes, slavery ended ions ago, but racism, discrimination still inhales and exhales as alive as you and I. We are united in some ways, but in others, we are hurting real bad.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Alexa~ I concur with you and clearly understand. My brother is serving in the marines and he about cries when he comes home and when he leaves. He has these terrible stories about these other countries and then he compares and contrasts and just states that we could get along so much better instead we are worrying about petty stuff like the mexican neighbors next door, Mr. Obama not wearing a flagpin or not putting his hand over his heart for the national anthem. I believe everyone is a patriot in their own way and we should just welcome everyone here and be more open minded. After all, this is a free country?
May 15th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Alexa and Rod~ I hear that ALOT. I’m black, and have heard it from friends and family who have served in the military and gone overseas. Such a shame.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Cherylcarrol,
If I vote for Barack Obama it will be because I think he’s the best damn candidate (which he isn’t) for the job. Not because I respect him as a black man.
And, since you mentioned political principles, and accomplishments in your history lesson on the civil rights movement during the 60’s, please share with us your knowledge of the principles and accomplishments you so eloquently speak of.
Please, tell us about Barack Obama’s.
May 16th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
For all Ken’s bitching, you gotta love him. He is our resident Grumpy Conservative.
May 16th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Ken, I’m not responding to your comment b/c I said everything I had to say on the matter. I will repost it for you, this time in bold print, as that might help you read it word for word.
I think that we should be careful with simply stating that blacks are voting for Obama b/c he’s black. With the Civil Rights movement of the 60s, blacks began to identify themselves with the Democratic Party as the Dems were at the forefront of fighting for the cause. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 helped to increase black participation in the political process (b/c they were no longer being barred from doing so viz a viz stupid Jim Crow laws). About two generations later, most blacks still align themselves with the Democratic Party platform. So in a democratic primary where each candidate will share basic democratic principles, b/c they all belong to the same party, why not vote for the black candidate? They’re voting based on the political principles, and based on the respect for a black person who has accomplished enough to be worthy of their vote.
May 16th, 2008 at 5:53 pm