How Bad Is It For Hillary?
I find it hard to believe that she meant to suggest that so many things can happen between now and the end of June, hey…Bobby Kennedy was assassinated then. Nevertheless, her comment doesn’t play well.
Here is what was said between Hillary Clinton and the editorial board of the Sioux Falls, South Dakota Argus Leader:
This is the most important job in the world. It’s the toughest job in the world. You should be willing to campaign for every vote. You should be willing to debate anytime, anywhere. I think it’s an interesting juxtaposition where we find ourselves and you know, I have been willing to do all of that during the entire process and people have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa and I find it¬¬-
EB: Why? Why?
I don’t know I don’t know I find it curious because it is unprecedented in history. I don’t understand it and between my opponent and his camp and some in the media, there has been this urgency to end this and you know historically that makes no sense, so I find it a bit of a mystery.
EB: You don’t buy the party unity argument?
I don’t, because again, I’ve been around long enough. You know my husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere around the middle of June
EB: June
We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. Um you know I just I don’t understand it. There’s lots of speculation about why it is.
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Does her clarification work?
“Earlier today I was discussing the Democratic primary history and in the course of that discussion mentioned the campaigns that both my husband and Senator Kennedy waged in California in June 1992 and 1968 and I was referencing those to make the point that we have had nomination primary contests that go into June. That’s a historic fact. The Kennedys have been much on my mind the last days because of Senator Kennedy and I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that, whatsoever. My view is that we have to look to the past and to our leaders who have inspired us and give us a lot to live up to, and I’m honored to hold Senator Kennedy’s seat in the United States Senate from the state of New York and have the highest regard for the entire Kennedy family.”
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Why would anyone running for office bring up the word assassinate? I like Hillary, but she has been given a free pass for too many questionable things she has said. As in, “hard working whites” or praising McCain at the expense of Obama. She also has been trying to change the rules of the primary election until it puts her ahead. Why is this an argument? It’s pledged delegates not popular vote no matter how many times she says it. The rules for the primary have been good enough for every other election, but I guess the rules need to change midstream if your name is Hillary Clinton. Maybe if she had apologized after her horrid remarks instead of the usual average political bullshit “If I offended anyone I’m sorry” Unbelievable!
Yes I’ve reposted. This isn’t the first time she brought up assassination either. It just doesn’t seem that someone with her savvy and experience would say something stupid and outrageous like this. I feel sorry for her, but this could be the end for her. What possible reason was she bringing that up? I think she has to let it go. What is worse is that she claims the media is telling her to quit. That is not true. Sure it has been said that she doesn’t have a chance, but I haven’t heard anything.
She got an endorsement from Richard Melon Scaffe. I have no idea how to spell his name, but he was part of the right wing conspiracy she clamied during the Impeachment. This is also compounded by the fact that she has repeatedly tried to change whatever rules she can to get elected.
If she had a better initial campaign strategy of “I’m Hillary Clinton the next President, now lets get these pesky elections out of the way”. They had a bad strategy and Obama was a better organizer. Yes, she has been a stronger candidate as of late, but you don’t get a do-over. This latest in a long line of gaffes has gotten to be, well, desperate. I just can’t understand why anyone would bring the word “assassinate” in a election of any kind no matter the point trying to be made.
If she is satisfied with bringing down the Democratic Party for her and her husbands ambitions, letting the monstrous Republicans back in the White House because she didn’t win, well I guess we will all see what she is capable of if she doesn’t relent in this futility. We will find out how she ends this in the second week of June. How she can claim Michigan as a win is mind-boggling. She was the only one on the ticket! She agreed not to count the Florida and Michigan votes until she realized she was behind.
Her indifference of Obama’s wins as not counting because the states he won doesn’t matter. What kind of politician gets away with saying states they lost don’t matter and then expect any people in those states to vote for her in the general election? And early in the procees she wouldn’t even acknowledge Obama’s wins. Even the scumbag Republicans give concession speeches! She just went into her stump speech as if an election didn’t even take place. I always liked the Clintons before this campaign but now I just feel sorry for their desperate, do-anthing-to-win mentality. I just don’t understand them anymore…
May 24th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Lay off my Hillary, folks. This is a ridiculous spin on her words. But you know what, Hillary has the strength to keep on going. That’s why I love her… and Bill.
Before she made the two June references, Hill said that this was “unprecedented in history”… “between my opponent and his camp and some in the media, there’s an urgency to end this and historically that makes no sense…” And then she cited two dem primaries that went on until JUNE. We’re at the end of May, why would she cite a primary that went on until March or April?
She was citing historical references, and the phrases above clearly show that. Huckabee’s “joke” at the NRA club was ten times worse.
Alan~ I think that Kiki or Terry McAuliffe should write an article that lists past Dem primaries, and shows how this one is a very close race. And also show that Bill and Bobby were the only races to go through June (I don’t know if there were any others, can’t find the stats online). Illustrating the historical accuracy of her statement will send a polite, intelligent, F you to those taking this totally out of context.
May 24th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Sorry for the rant everyone, but the Clintons have been behaving like Reublicans and it makes me sick…
May 24th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Republicans…oops
May 24th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Haywood said: “Why would anyone running for office bring up the word assassinate?”
Okay… so she should have said that Bobby “died”? No, he didn’t just “die”, and to say “he died” or “he passed away” would be to diminish the tragic nature or what truly happened to him.
Haywood also said: “I like Hillary, but she has been given a free pass for too many questionable things she has said. As in, “hard working whites” or praising McCain at the expense of Obama.”
Are we back at this, again? She was specifically talking about the demographics of her voters. Politicians- ALL speakers actually- like to throw in complimentary adjectives to describe the people they’re talking to/about. Hence, “hard working”, “patriotic”, “committed”… nice little words that they throw into their speeches.
May 24th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
I submitted the above comment before I was done typing… I still can’t find my glasses. It’s pathetic.
Haywood, don’t worry about the “rants”. It happens. Political drama effects us emotionally b/c what these people do effects our LIVES, you know?
I’m not familiar with her other “assassination” references. If they exist, please cite them.
She’s not bringing down the Democratic party!
When you reread the statements she made BEFORE the June references, do you really believe that she was implying something morbid?
May 24th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
My point with “assassinate” being brought up is that their are plenty of other primary contests that went until June. Why even bring up RFK? How does that help. I don’t think she intentionally meant anything because it’s too dark. I’m sure she is exhausted and that was all it was but it isn’t the first time she brought it up. I just don’t understand why she keeps getting away with this. I just want this damn primary to be over so John McCain can be defeated. No matter what happens in the Presidential election, at least we can take comfort in the fact that the Republicans will be wiped out of Congress!
May 24th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Other examples are and I am soory I don’t know how to make links so you will have to look them up are:
1) Time magazine March 6
2) May 7 Washington fundraiser
3) May 7 Shepherdstown, WV
Now she only used the word “assassinate” Friday and in Time, but the other two she makes mention of the RFK primary so she had used RFK as an example before. I still don’t think she meant anything, but this wasn’t just an out of the blue thing Friday. It is just a horrible horrible analogy.
May 24th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
I agree, she must have been exhausted when she made that remark. She certainly wasn’t wishing any ill will towards Obama. Never-the-less, it was a very strange, inappropriate and unfortunate comment to make. My stomach turned over when I saw her do so on tv. I think she knew that it came out wrong as soon as she said it.
It comes across as, “Why should I drop out? Bobby Kennedy was assasinated in June, the same thing could happen to Obama, so why should I end my campaign? Anything can happen.”
That’s how it comes across. Again I think she said so because she has fought so long and hard, and for God’s sake she is only human. She is tired, stressed out, frustrated and EXHAUSTED. I think her comment is very, very unfortunate as I said but definately forgivable.
How else could she have said it? This is a hard one. Maybe… “Why should I end my campaign? My husband didn’t get the nomination till June in 1992. And in our history there have been all sorts of unfortunate reasons as to why opposing candidates have had to drop out, so I see no reason to end what has been a very successful campaign that I have worked long and hard for.”
She should have cited other examples instead, but obviously she wasn’t thinking clearly.
I do think that this race between Barack and Hillary continues to be very ugly and that it has split the Democratic party in half. I just hope that in time there will be enough of us grown-ups to come together by November.
May 24th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Man! Some excuses!
She was exhausted when she said this
Leave my Hillary alone
She didn’t mean it like that
Such a horrible spin on words
Nope, ain’t buying any of it, this woman is clearly insane and has become totally obsessed with making president. Hillary gives women across America a bad name….you don’t bring up the word “assassination” as to suggest Obama might get assassinated. This is no spin on words at all; imagine having her as president and she says stupid things like this in real-time nation-endangering situations.
I just blogged on this one this morning. I’m sorry, but I think she’s either trying to be suggestive to some nutjobs out there who would shoot Obama, or is anxiously rubbing her hands together, hoping it does happen.
The woman is SICK IN THE HEAD.
May 24th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
…and to think that there is someone out there who would try to carry something like this out…it’s mind-boggling. Although I do not agree much on all three of the candidates, I would never want to see any of them get assassinated.
May 24th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Amen Steve see the very first post…
May 24th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
It comes across as, “Why should I drop out? Bobby Kennedy was assasinated in June, the same thing could happen to Obama, so why should I end my campaign? Anything can happen.”
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That’s exactly the way it sounded to me as well. I’m glad she apologized.
May 24th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
I wouldn’t use this against Hillary. She has nothing to gain if her intention was indeed sinster. She just said something stupid. It happens.
May 24th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Billary screwed the pooch long ago! Im amazed she/they made it this far, must be true that you can spit in most voters ears and make them believe its raining.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
“She just said something stupid. It happens.”
I’d agree, Noel; however, I think she’s just dashed all of her hopes. Oh well, there’s always 2012.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
Hillary refuses to see the writing on the wall. It’s over. Regardless of what happens between now and June, Obama will have more delegates than HC and will win the nomination. He is very close to doing that now. Her husband, Bill, knows it’s over. He’s pushing Hillary to become Obama’s running mate. Had she seen the Jay Leno monologue and the Conan O’Brian monologue. She has been the target because she refuses to buy the claim that it is over. Is the media against her? No, it has been pulling for her until now. I am a little bothered by her comments she has been making. It sounds like a lot of that “central Arkansas” cultural mentality has been coming right out of her. What else could be the reason why she would win West Virginia and Kentucky? The mentality is this anti-black white mentality that has been mustered lately in this campaign. Many of you will disagree. I can understand that. But, remember, she was the state first lady from Arkansas for a long time.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
It’s incredible that she doesn’t realize it is not going to happen. Even if Florida and Michigan get seated she won’t have the delegates to overtake the lead. Along with those two states and Puerto Rico, she may get the lead in popular vote, but that isn’t what counts in the primaries. Puerto Rico doesn’t vote in the general. Two weeks and it ends. I’m an Obama supporter. I have been since the 2004 convention speech he gave. She needs to lay off Obama and be gracious and concede by June 10 or the superdelegates are going to take her out. Now I know Hillary’s supporters think everybody is being harsh, but she is starting to look out of touch with reality. Kinda like a certain babboon of a President we have now. Maybe that is a trait we don’t need in the White House…
May 24th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Apparently, Robert Kennedy Jr. has defended her. He issued the following statement:
“It is clear from the context that Hillary was invoking a familiar political circumstance in order to support her decision to stay in the race through June. I have heard her make this reference before, also citing her husband’s 1992 race, both of which were hard fought through June. I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense.”
I think her comments were in bad taste but I don’t think she meant that Obama would be assassinated. I think she just meant that her husband and RFK fought it out through June.
May 25th, 2008 at 12:14 am
I think that it is very possible that she is staying in the race to pressue Obama into picking her as a running mate. Now that so many of her supporters are saying that they will either stay home or vote for McCain in November, Bill is probably trying to push the idea that the only way for Obama to win is to have Hillary on the ticket with him. Meanwhile, Hillary keeps going around trying to polarize the party as much as possible to up the pressure.
I’m not saying that this is necessarily the case, but why else would she be in the race at this point? Either her ego won’t let her admit that she can’t win or she’s pushing to become VP.
May 25th, 2008 at 12:16 am
Do you really think Hillary never use the N** word in the privacy of her home. Facts speak oudly,
“hard working white”, “assassination”, “Jesse Jackson won South Carolina”, and lot more. I think Hillary is a racist.
May 25th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
So what???? I guess all you liberals are saints like Obama!!! Get real. I always said I was a liberal and I always voted Democrat, but now I realize us poor white folk without graduate degrees are scum…so do a lot of the people I work with…we were looking forward to a Democratic president….we have now decided we are not GOOD ENOUGH to be Democrats so we are voting for McCain. It will be my greatest pleasure to watch MSNBC if Bameee loses…I want to watch the crying and weeping. I could not help but laugh at all you worshippers. You know the Repubs did this with Bush and we all thought how awful…now you are doing this with “Bamee the Perfect”….you’ll get your boy and let’s see how GREAT he is….oh by the way, I realized I typed “boy”….okay so that makes me racist…yes, I am not as perfect as the Demos. Gosh, my family has always been a Demo and now we are not good enough. Somehow I will carry on! By the way instead of Starbuck “mud”…McDonalds Hazelnut iced coffee is great and $3.00 cheaper, but you Demos are so educated and rich…so forget it!
May 25th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Well she shot herself on the foot. I was expecting that and now her career is over!
It shows her desperation and how much she bullies Americans.
May 25th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Bill wants her to be one heartbeat away from obtaining the office? Who thinks like this? What conversations has she had with her husband and campaign staff that connects the thoughts, she make a good Vice President and let’s see if he makes it to Denver ?
Expect the undecided Super Delegates to become Obama supporters very soon.
—And Hillary, while you are issuing apologies, how about one to Barack and his family? Or didn’t you think that far ahead?
May 25th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Hillary’s career isn’t over…let’s see how 6 to 8 months into Bamee’s reign how good it gets…..oh, Saint Bamee……ain’t nobody that good baby!
May 25th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
I agree Tiffany~
What kind of conversations does she have with her husband? Actually I don’t want to know.
But yeah, she needs to greatly feel apologetic for Obama’s family. Now that I think about it even more, wow, that was really offensive.
More offensive than Hagee saying that Hitler was sent by god to hunt down the jews. Now, that was offensive to god though because God loves everyone.
Leave it to Hilary to make her campaign shimmer more like that….what a smarty pants she is. =/
May 25th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Hillary is so condescending whenever she talks about Obama. Has anybody else noticed that throughout the campaign she has refused to mention him by name instead calling him “my opponent”? Her pompous attitude at the beginning the this video nauseates me as well. She’s just proven herself to be a mudslinging politician who takes more cheap shots than John McCain. I would still hold my nose and vote for her since her policies are better than McCain’s, but I just don’t see how she can go around acting the way she does and think that she’s so much more electable than Obama. She’s a polarizing figure in HER OWN PARTY! Just imagine how bad it would be in November.
May 25th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Two things: Hillary is probably the stronger candidate in the general, and Obama *should* be the candidate based on delegates.
In Hillary’s defense, why should she quit after working so hard, it’s such a close fight, and she’s the stronger candidate? Oh, yeah, and she’s a Clinton…scorched earth and win at all costs!
I enjoy seeing the Democratic Party fight so much…does that make me evil? }:-)
May 25th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
pompous! that’s it! that’s the word for Mrs. Clinton! That’s why she turns me off!
Oh yeah, and she should definitely apologize to Obama. And maybe his supporters, too. I’m sure she knows how worried we all are for his life as (fingers crossed) the first Black president. It’s NOT a joke, or just a ‘comment’, and it shouldn’t be taken lightly. It sounds like a suggestion to me, honestly.
May 25th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
No, the clarification didn’t work, but I’m forgiving of some things, and can pass over this, and really have no desire to obsess over it anyway.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Yes Flap, the darkest most potent form of evil…
Ralph Nader evil.
Janet Reno evil.
The Jolt Cola of evil, too much evil for 7-11.
May 26th, 2008 at 2:14 am
yes pompous I must say is the word!
Carter said she should quit after June 3rd.
We’ll see….
May 26th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Timeframe for this ‘primary’ can’t be compared to 1968’s. In 1968, with only 13 states holding primaries, there was never any doubt that the candidate would be chosen at the convention, dominated by delegates selected by local party leaders in the states not holding primaries. Their choice was Herbert Humphrey, who did not take part in state primaries. Who knows how many of those delegates would have been swayed by the Kennedy charisma, had he lived to participate in the convention?
The 1st 1968 primary was New Hampsire on the 2nd Tues of March – not Jan. 8, as this year. Kennedy declared intention to ‘run’ on March 16, and between April and June 4th, 1968, the time of his death, he had won four primaries, losing only one to Eugene McCarthy (who won all but three of the remaining primaries, and the popular vote).
Hillary Clinton, a political activist since college days, had to know this. Hillary made a speech at her graduation from Wellesley College in which she stated: “The challenge now is to practice politics as the art of making what appears to be impossible, possible”. She evidently still lives by that philosophy.
May 26th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
I’m not worried about Obama in November, he will walk all over McLame, I predict a landslide win for the Dems. Americans are tired of the BS, they sick of it, all the lies they went through with the current administration. Time for a change, and change is coming!
Hillary won’t get her way, even tho she trying hard to sway voters her way, won’t happen! She made mistakes after mistakes, she turn off lots of voters away. Now ,looking so desperate, she reminds me of a skunk, look cute but stinks horribly!
That “assassinate comment” is a call to all the nutjobs in the US, that’s the way I saw it. Clintons have a history of death occurring in their wake since they took on the political scene. They got away with it!!! Not to mention scandals after scandals!!
God willing, Obama will live to be your next President and a great one he will be, I’m sure of it!!
I pray for his safety, cause McLame is calling him to go to Iraq with him, kinda make me scared for Obama a bit! I hope if he goes, he’ll be protected and wear that body armor and helmet, you never know in there, 1 sniper shot, then blame insurgents, too ripe for a bad event to happen there!
I just pray for the best….
Canadian for Obama08 !!!
May 27th, 2008 at 8:15 am