• As California begins issuing licenses for same-sex weddings, should the rest of the nation soon follow? Alan debates former Christian Coalition head Ralph Reed, whose latest book is Dark Horse: A Political Thriller.
• President Bush is hinting that his brother Jeb may eventually seek the White House. Will America ever be ready for a third Bush presidency?
• Can exercise be lethal? Naturopathic Dr. Joel Wallach weighs in.
I called in on this show re same sex marrage…I am a lesbian in Canada, married for 2 years..I highly recomend that if gay marrage is against your religion, you should not get married to someone of the same sex..and get over it. In Canada (the land of the free…oops I guess that use to be USA), if a church does not suport same sex marrage, then they are not required to do so. That is what happens in a country that TRULY keeps church and state sepparate. I guess if straits kept marrage is so sacred, and holly then lots of money could be saved by closing down all the family courts, because nobody would want a divorce. Mabe with that money you could also have universal health care.
America’s refusal to demand accountability concerning 9-11 has kept the Bush name in good standing. If Democrats find a way to unite, in spite of all the infighting and backbiting; the Bush name will be dragged through the mud and properly vetted. What we did or did not do on 9-11 was far more important than what 20 Jihidiots did right to make that day America’s worst national security failure. If we never find the courage to review the flaws in our system, artificial or natural, then we can’t be safe or say it will never happen again. America was a nation that accepts responsibility for it’s actions. President Bush did not accept responsibility and his rating remained in the toilet. The truth will keep them there throughout history. No Bush Third Term is forseable unless it’s something unique like a woman.
This is a secular country, with a secular Constitution, not a theocracy.
Churches aren’t required to marry homosexuals. There are civil ceremonies that are perfectly legal.
The authority for priests and ministers and rabbis to marry is given by the state.
Oh, and Cheryl…you expect most libs to view the Bible as anything more than an outdated set of Jewish laws and stories? Or perhaps a good book but outdated when it interferes with the moral zeitgeist of the day?
Actually, and it pains me as a conservative to say this, but I can’t see a problem with gay marriage in a secular sense other than perhaps a “sacred tradition” argument. Marriage is a covenant before God but it’s also very secularized now.
Cheryl: it’s about faith. You already know this, but do some research and you’ll find that ALL beliefs can be marginalized and smart people with multiple letters after their names will tell you that these beliefs are all dreamed up in the minds of ignorant people who “needed” the superstition of a god.
From my perspective as a Christian: people deny Christ resurrected, people deny Christ was God, people deny Christ was a historical figure, people deny a monotheistic God exists, people deny any sort of God or gods exist, and people deny a Higher Power exists.
I can’t spend too much time trying to combat people who deny any or all of those. None of those can really be reasonably “proven” aside from the last one. I think it is very reasonable to believe in Christ of the Bible but it does take faith.
Alan scoffing at conservatives? What a surprise! ;)
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I think the California thing is great. Now Hannity and Bill-O can get married…
June 16th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Oh and fuck Jeb Bush and his chances…
June 16th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Jeb has a 24% chance at the white house and an 100% chance of visitation rights to see his bro in the big house.
does that answer your question alen?
June 16th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=93581
June 16th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Oh, brother. (No pun intended.) I doubt that even the Repubs want to see another Bush in the Oval Office.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:13 am
btw, Jeb’s daughter has had some serious drug issues in the past. They’d have to figure out how to spin that issue.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:14 am
Alan… where gay rights are concerned, you HAVE to understand that most people who think homosexuality is immoral is b/c of their RELIGIOUS beliefs. That’s the bottom line, man. You really have to put yourself in their shoes- the Bible says what is and is not moral. To them, anything not allowed in the Bible should not be allowed in society, as the Bible is the guidebook for “right” living. That’s all there is to it.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:29 am
Alan, you asked people to explain their point of view to you, but you’re almost scoffing at what they say.
To many people their relationship with God is the most important part of life. They take their Scripture (Christian or otherwise) and build a “Godly” life based on what they’ve been instructed to do.
I personally haven’t finished my exploration into the development of Christianity, the Bible, and other world religions. (I bought a new book today about ancient myths throughout the world.) I understand WHY the anti-gay crowd is anti-gay. I don’t agree with it, but I UNDERSTAND it. Understanding it is the best way to combat it. Understanding how Christians and other religious groups are trying to build Godly lives in Godly societies, empowers you to properly address their concerns.
Jesus taught in parables. What they need is another great parable to help them understand
June 17th, 2008 at 12:34 am
what you just said to the last caller (the one you said hated America)- we live in a free society, not a theocratically structured one.
Jesus said give to Cesar what is Cesar’s and to God what is God’s (paraphrasing). What people like that caller should do is remember to do their civic duty, and leave the spiritual expression of others alone.
June 17th, 2008 at 12:37 am
Cheryl: it’s about faith. You already know this, but do some research and you’ll find that ALL beliefs can be marginalized and smart people with multiple letters after their names will tell you that these beliefs are all dreamed up in the minds of ignorant people who “needed” the superstition of a god.
From my perspective as a Christian: people deny Christ resurrected, people deny Christ was God, people deny Christ was a historical figure, people deny a monotheistic God exists, people deny any sort of God or gods exist, and people deny a Higher Power exists.
I can’t spend too much time trying to combat people who deny any or all of those. None of those can really be reasonably “proven” aside from the last one. I think it is very reasonable to believe in Christ of the Bible but it does take faith.
Alan scoffing at conservatives? What a surprise! ;)
June 17th, 2008 at 2:40 am
Oh, and Cheryl…you expect most libs to view the Bible as anything more than an outdated set of Jewish laws and stories? Or perhaps a good book but outdated when it interferes with the moral zeitgeist of the day?
Actually, and it pains me as a conservative to say this, but I can’t see a problem with gay marriage in a secular sense other than perhaps a “sacred tradition” argument. Marriage is a covenant before God but it’s also very secularized now.
June 17th, 2008 at 2:46 am
This is a secular country, with a secular Constitution, not a theocracy.
Churches aren’t required to marry homosexuals. There are civil ceremonies that are perfectly legal.
The authority for priests and ministers and rabbis to marry is given by the state.
June 17th, 2008 at 2:55 am
America’s refusal to demand accountability concerning 9-11 has kept the Bush name in good standing. If Democrats find a way to unite, in spite of all the infighting and backbiting; the Bush name will be dragged through the mud and properly vetted. What we did or did not do on 9-11 was far more important than what 20 Jihidiots did right to make that day America’s worst national security failure. If we never find the courage to review the flaws in our system, artificial or natural, then we can’t be safe or say it will never happen again. America was a nation that accepts responsibility for it’s actions. President Bush did not accept responsibility and his rating remained in the toilet. The truth will keep them there throughout history. No Bush Third Term is forseable unless it’s something unique like a woman.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:09 am
I called in on this show re same sex marrage…I am a lesbian in Canada, married for 2 years..I highly recomend that if gay marrage is against your religion, you should not get married to someone of the same sex..and get over it. In Canada (the land of the free…oops I guess that use to be USA), if a church does not suport same sex marrage, then they are not required to do so. That is what happens in a country that TRULY keeps church and state sepparate. I guess if straits kept marrage is so sacred, and holly then lots of money could be saved by closing down all the family courts, because nobody would want a divorce. Mabe with that money you could also have universal health care.
June 22nd, 2008 at 10:08 am