Let He Who Is Without Sin…
I don’t care that John McCain had an affair and didn’t treat his wife the way I would want to be treated (or the way I aspire to treat my family). Okay, well, I care in the spiritual sense but not a way that would affect my vote. My support for Barack Obama has nothing to so with the fact that he appears faithful to his wife and devoted to his family. It doesn’t hurt, but it is not the determining factor for me in choosing a president.
But for those who deem these kinds of things germane to politicians (even though they aren’t germane to CEO’s of corporations…does anybody not use a certain product because the executives in that company may be cheaters?) shouldn’t they apply it across the board? After all, John McCain lost friends like Nancy Reagan when he left his first wife for another woman.
In a written statement, she described McCain as “a good friend for over 30 years.” But that friendship was strained in the late 1970s by McCain’s decision to divorce his first wife, Carol, who was particularly close to the Reagans, and within weeks marry Cindy Hensley, the young heiress to a lucrative Arizona beer distributorship.
The Reagans rushed to help Carol, finding her a new home in Southern California with the family of Reagan aide Edwin Meese III and a series of political and White House jobs to ease her through that difficult time.
The First Family (McCain's that is)
The public record seems to conflict with McCain’s own statements about his relationships.
Although McCain suggested in his autobiography that months passed between his divorce and remarriage, the divorce was granted April 2, 1980, and he wed Hensley in a private ceremony five weeks later. McCain obtained an Arizona marriage license on March 6, 1980, while still legally married to his first wife.
Until McCain filed for divorce, the Reagans and their inner circle assumed he was happily married, and they were stunned to learn otherwise, according to several close aides.
“Everybody was upset with him,” recalled Nancy Reynolds, a top aide to the former president who introduced him to McCain.
When John McCain began dating his new love, he was still married.
Carol McCain later told friends…that she did not know he was seeing anyone else.
John McCain sued for divorce in Fort Walton Beach, Fla., where his friend and fellow former POW, George E. “Bud” Day, practiced law and could represent him.
In the petition, he stated that the couple had “cohabited as husband and wife” until Jan. 7, 1980.
And if the name Bud Day sounds familiar, that’s because Day is one of the swift-boaters acting as a surrogate in this campaign, most notably in an attack against Wesley Clark.
http://dontgomovement.com/2008/08/11/nancy-pelosi-invests-in-energy-scheme-and-water-grab-by-t-boone-pickens/
I’m telling ya people. They (the politicans) don’t give two hoots about us the peons. Until we figure out what to do we will continue to be used.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Strange, the only time a liberal would quote Reagan would be if they are saying something negative about a fellow republican that fits their view of said republican.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Hey Alan, how come the only defense you can conjure up for the clowns on the dem side is to find a Repub and yell “he did it too?”
August 12th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
According to republicans, it’s only a “sin” if a democrat commits adultry.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Knowing what we know now about how was effects military families, it’s hard for me to pass judgment on this. I think that when McCain returned from Vietnam, life was totally different for him. Even if his ex had not been in an accident that handicapped her, it’s hard to say if they would’ve still made it.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
It really was very telling about McCain when he was asked to comment about John Edwards…and he had none..
August 12th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Testing
August 12th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
What do you do when it keeps saying “duplicate, but the post doesn’t show up?
August 12th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Joe asked about why “only defense Alan can conjure up for the clowns on the dem side is to find a Repub and yell “he did it too?”
It’s because they scream the loudest about being the family values people…our moral betters, while fooling around the most:
“Missouri state Rep. Scott Muschany, R-Frontenac, was indicted today in connection with a reported sexual assault of a 14-year-old girl on May 17, the day after this year’s Legislative session ended.
The alleged victim is the daughter of a state employee. The girl’s mother and Muschany -– who is married and has two children — were romantically involved, the woman said.”
Newt Gingrich, mistress#1
Newt Gingrich,mistress #2 lasted 18 years and ended because of adultery
House Speaker-elect Bob Livingston, reeling from the admission of his own marital infidelities,
1998: Helen Chenoweth
Another pit bull hounding Clinton fessed up to a five year affair with a married man
2005: Rep. Don Sherwood: Strangled By Scandal
The Pennsylvanian was accussed by his ex-mistress of trying to strangle her…then reportedly he agreed to settle with her for a cool half a mil…..if she’d keep her mouth shut till after Election Day!
And of course WHO could forget anti abortion rights activist who told Alan Colmes that he had sex with his mule?
August 12th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Yeah, conservatives knew all this last year when the media was still in love with McCain. Good reporting there.
What old news is next? Keating Five?
August 12th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Divorce happens…to big-shots and the little-people. I won’t pass judgement on either.
August 12th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
I try hard to not pass judgement either. Mainly because people have no idea what goes on behind closed doors.
This is a particularly sensitive subject for me right now since my husband and I have (very recently) made the decision to separate. Every person that I shared the news with were totally shocked ~ people hide things really well (I know I did). And just about everybody I told said, “oh, he is such a nice man” ~ I’m thinking right lady try living with him!
August 12th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Well adultry is adultry!!!!! Yes I find is very ignorant for ppls like Hannity especially in trying to make light of McCain’s ADULTRY because he was a POW for 5.5 yrs. Well what about the pain his first wife took while waiting on him to return. And by the way that does not make him the best canidate to be President because that would mean all POW’s are suitabe to be President. Mrs.McCain #1 waited on him to return,But YOU McCain supporters say it’s OK for him to cheat and desert her after her accident for a RICH young chick, please you McCain supporters need to come with somthing better to defend him. I lost some respect for McCain when I first heard of his adultry so let’s not set double standards for him because he’s a cheater and a deserter when it comes to family values. Maybe the only reason he’s not doing it now is because she’s rich and Oh by the way he’s to OLD.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Jesse Jackson, bastard child, Ted Kennedy, campaign worker left to drown, Vince Foster, supposed suicide, Patrick Kennedy, drugs and who knows what else, John F. Kennedy, syphillis and Marilyn Monroe, Bobby Kennedy, Marilyn Monroe, Hillary Clinton, quite possibly some birkenstock wearing college girls, Bill Clinton, Monica, Jennifer, Juanita , Paula and supposedly fathered a bi-racial child, John Edwards, Reille Hunter and possibly a bastard child, Barack HUSSEIN Obama, we’ll soon find out!!!
August 12th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
So? Obama smokes menthols! End of thread!
August 13th, 2008 at 12:04 am
Edawrds is so good looking he should get a mulligan.
Now lets talk about the important things like where the hell did all our tax dollars go in this moronic “war”. Iraq has a SURPLUS?! What the…
FOLLOW THE MONEY
August 13th, 2008 at 12:29 am
What do you do when it keeps saying “duplicate, but the post doesn’t show up?
That’s the drawback of all the people that copy/paste from the dailykos talking points. :)
I don’t care that John McCain had an affair and didn’t treat his wife the way I would want to be treated
If you don’t care than the point of this thread was?
August 13th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Cheating is cheating. It does not matter if you are Bill Clinton, John McCain, John Edwards, Newt Gingrich or David Vitter. Time is not an issue either. If it was one second ago or thirty years ago when the act took place. Some Conservatives claim that McCain’s time in Vietnam was trauma enough to excuse his infidelity. That is a cop out at best and a horrible excuse at worst. If we use that twisted logic then stressful situations can push McCain towards bad decisions. This is not even an issue in reality. Edwards cheating is of no consequence due to the fact that he is not even in the running for the Presidency. McCain is. But this is just like Conservatives to make a big fuss about sex and peoples private lives. They always exhibit their Puritanical roots when sex is involved. Lets talk about real issues and get away from tabloid mentality topics. How about energy, the 2/3 of corporations that have not paid taxes during the 1998 to 2007 time period, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Russia, Health Care, and any thing else that will actually affect our lives? What is even worse than cheating is when some Conservatives give McCain a pass on his cheating heart because he is a so-called hero. Hero or not, cheating is cheating.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:36 pm