Love Will Keep Us Together
From: Bobby
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:42 PM
To: Alan
Subject: Nobama
Alan,
If Obama loses do you think he will disappear from the big picture.
If he does….please….will you do the same.
Thank you,
Bobby
From: Pat
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:04 PM
To: Alan
Subject: I can’t believe
I can’t believe you are to the left of Pat Caddell? Your comments tonight about partial birth abortion and after birth abortion. You have to be one of the most evil people alive today. I have disagreed with you in the past, but this was the worst. I was born in 1951 and was put up for adoption, I assume you are against that, had abortion been cheap and legal I might not even be here. My mother had the common sense to turn me over to Catholic Charities, for adoption. I guess you would be against Catholic Charities because you are a Jew. I still can’t believe you are more left then you guest Pat.
From: Alan
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 11:43 PM
To: Pat
Subject: RE: I can’t believe
Your parents had the right to make a choice, and that’s the way it should be. And, for your information, I give to Catholic Charities.
From: Jim
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:10 PM
To: Alan
Subject: Tonight’s Program
Alan,
You have finally completely DISGUSTED me with your phony defense of tonight’s discussion of Obama’s vote in the Illinois Senate to KILL a baby after it has been born. When Ann tried to explain the vote you shouted her down. You will always defend anything a Democrat will do no matter how heinous.
The Democrats are a party of killing babies and old people. Life has no value to you or the Democrats.
Finally why can’t you and your guests take turns talking instead of all talking at the same time. If it was not for Shawn I would never watch your program. There is a good reason why your radio show is a complete failure. You are actually worse than Greta. But at least she does not advocate killing babies like you.
You are just a complete jerk but fortunately you are the junior partner of Hannity & Clones. If I was not sending this from my computer I would tell you what I really think of you.
Jim
From: RD
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 11:22 PM
To: Alan
Subject: YOU ARE
You are the dumbest, and biggest piece of SHIT on any TV channel…..and you got the worst looking hair ( or wig)
RD
From: Meaghan
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:07 AM
To: Alan
Subject: Abortion rights
Ann [Coulter] seems to be very passionate about what happens to a fetus during life stages. Maybe she could educate myself, a labor and delivery nurse, about what exactly occurs during the ‘fourth trimester’ and the rights of the child at that time. If she could get back to me soon I will be watching the fifth quarter of the men’s Olympic basketball game this evening.
Meaghan
From: Jim
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 6:09 PM
To: Alan
Subject: Colmes off camera pouting
Hey Colmes,
You look as if you are either about to cry or vomit as we get to know the “real Oblahma”.
It is highly irresponsible to just BLINDLY follow a candidate simply based on party.
Oblahma will destroy this country and you know it.
Jim
From: Alan
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:47 PM
To: Jim
Subject: RE: Colmes off camera pouting
He can’t….Bush already did that.
From: Mark
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:43 PM
To: Alan
Subject:
Everybody in America could tell you were wanting to jump all over Pastor Rick Warren when he was on Sean’s show in which you were there. You wanted to disrespect the man so bad you were almost foaming at the mouth. This is typical behavior of a liberal. Afterall Americans know liberals cannot stand religion and religious people. You’re pathetic, and fox would do well to get rid of you. You are extremely rude to the Americans Sean has on the show. By the way in case you have not noticed to me as well as Americans do not think liberals are Americans.
From: Jodie
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:44 PM
To: Alan
Subject: ObamaColmes,
Why don’t you quit this job at Fox and go to work for Obama so you can be closer to kiss his ass every time he moves.
From: Jim
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:46 PM
To: Alan
Subject: Botched Abortion.
Alan,
You and Bob Beckel are absolutely DISGUSTING. You do what all liberals do when you are wrong. You SCREAM and SHOUT at your opponent so they can’t talk. You would support Pot Pol or any of the other world dictator and murderers if they were Democrats. You make me sick to my stomach. Both of you are a disgrace to the human race.
Sean, I’m sorry I can’t watch your program anymore. Your co-host is a pig.
From: Bob
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:54 PM
To: Alan
Subject: Pro-Choise is defined as the murder of innocent lifeHey DumbAss’
You need to know that Abortion at any stage is the murder of an innocent life that began at conception. Hussein Obama is guilty of lying about his vote on the late term Abortion bill as a legislator in Illinois and he is getting his butte kicked now because of him being a liar. That is what all liberals do best though open their mouth and feed the public with lies. That is why nothing but bullshit comkes out of your mouth everytime you open your mouth!
From: myos
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:23 PM
To: Alan
Subject:are you an odd person?
From: Alan
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:30 AM
To: Myos
Subject: RE:
No, I’m an even person
From: JL
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:51 PM
To: Alan
Subject: late term abortion
I think scum sucking worthless fucking asshole prick Colmes should be aborted the same way the babies born are treated, suck his liberal brains out and call it a day like they do with the babies, they are innocent he is not and should know better
From: Mary
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:01 PM
To: Alan
Subject: Once again………..
Alan,
Once again you made a complete ass of yourself tonight by trying to deny that not providing medical care for an aborted fetus born alive is infanticide. NEWS FLASH…………..NOT RESUSCITATING A NEWBORN WITH A HEARTBEAT OR RESPIRATORY EFFORT CONSTITUTES INFANTICIDE. If the child is born alive, it no longer matters that its mother doesn’t want it. It now becomes a human being entitled to protection from all harm. Failing to resuscitate is very harmful. Get it?
Again, you are an amoral moron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mary
From: Alan
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:46 AM
To: Mary
Subject: RE: Once again………..
I never said anything of the kind. I said the bill Obama didn’t support was superfluous, as there were already protections in place for victims of botched abortions
From: Joseph
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:26 AM
To: Alan
Subject: What Are You???Alan,
You seem like a decent guy. What messed you up in life? Did your dad beat you in that you are trying to hurt all Americans? Did you ever hear yourself talk? You cannot actually believe the things you say. Don’t you have any respect for every military person whom gave his/her life to get America to this point? They are the only reason you are even permitted to speak this nonsense. Just think, if people like yourself had their way in the past, we would be speaking French and Hitler would have ruled the world. Debate is healthy but this ludicrous socialistic far out liberal values have no place in a country founded under God and delivered by many lives.
Respectfully Yours,
Joseph
Here’s my new law to cut down on abortions:
If you’re a WOMAN who votes in order to outlaw abortion, then you’re required to adopt two children.
If you’re a MAN who votes in order to outlaw abortion, then you’re required to adopt FOUR special-needs children over the age of 3.
At this rate, there will BE no reason for abortion, because there will be so many new, loving, willing parents, giving new credibility to their bumper stickers, “I care about ALL children, BORN and UNBORN!”
August 20th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Sarah:
Its extremely difficult for most people to adopt a child. People are placed on an extensive waiting list and it has a very prohibitive cost, sometimes in excess of $35,000. A lot of people would love to adopt children but for some reason or another, sometimes quite simply racial motivations, social services will not place a child into a home for some couples, and single would be parents have virtually no chance of adopting a child even if they have a good home environment and no income. Adoption processes would have to be made more accessible for your charge to have any merit.
And contrary to popular opinion Roe v. Wade did not legalize abortion, it just guaranteed the privacy of a woman to make her own decision and prohibited states from making any laws that criminalized abortion procedures. Ronald Reagan signed one of the most liberal abortion bills in 1966 while he was governor of California, I bet most Republicans have no clue about that. At most an overturning of Roe v. Wade would result in two or three states restricting the practice, and women voters would change the legislatures that voted on that issue in an election cycle. Its a pointless debate to argue all abortions should be illegal because that is an impossible goal, much like people who want to ban the eating of meat.
August 20th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Alan, I get so tired of hearing you defend Obama or Clinton or anyone on the left by citing similar missteps or instances of bad behavior on the right. For instance your defense of Obama’s change of positon on so many instances Hannity rightly points out. In defense you cite McCain’s flip-flops or Romney’s or anyone on the left. Edward’s moral failures you defend by pointing out moral failures by people on the right. This is childish and totally unproductive. The bad behavior of a person is never justified by the previous bad behavior of someone else. You have every right to criticize a conservative when he flip-flops, has moral lapses, whatever. But it makes you look mean and desperate and frankly foolish to cite a conservative’s lapses only to try to make a liberal’s missteps seem less heinous or justified. Every time you do it, I simply groan at the shallowness of your argument.
August 20th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Alan, I get so tired of hearing you defend Obama or Clinton or anyone on the left by citing similar missteps or instances of bad behavior on the right. For instance your defense of Obama’s change of positon on so many instances Hannity rightly points out. In defense you cite McCain’s flip-flops or Romney’s or anyone on the left. Edwards’ moral failures you defend by pointing out moral failures by people on the right. This is childish and totally unproductive. The bad behavior of a person is never justified by the previous bad behavior of someone else. You have every right to criticize a conservative when he flip-flops, has moral lapses, whatever. But it makes you look mean and desperate and frankly foolish to cite a conservative’s lapses only to try to make a liberal’s missteps seem less heinous or justified. Every time you do it, I simply groan at the shallowness of your argument.
August 20th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
I might ask : Why are conservatives so much more concerned about the unborn than the born?
Ancient Jewish law does not recognize a ‘person’ until after birth and the drawing of the first breath.
Neither do Hindus.
The concept of unborn v born, is more the product of a patriarchal society.
If you found yourself in (the typical hypothetical) situation where you are in a fertility clinic, with petri dishes, a baby in a stroller, and a fire… are you torn as to which one to save?
They seem to assume worst in women seeking abortion.
I’m more concerned about the young girl who has been impregnated by a family member (who has no problem getting Viagra), or the abused woman who can’t let another pregnancy stop her from getting her and her kids the hell out of there.
There is no evidence that the “promiscuous , inconvenienced mother”, is more than a small minority.
I have ALWAYS been pro choice, but the more I hear from the anti choice people, the more they seem to have no problem with the use of cluster bombs, which kill and maim children for years, and referring to the civilian casualties, of war as “collateral damage”, the more convinced I am that it’s not an issue of life, but one of controlling women.
August 20th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
I’m just posting to get this screen name in memory. Awesome, eh?
August 20th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
oh, messed it up. this is the one i want.
August 20th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Jani, I wonder if you are willfully misunderstanding the rather simple, and effective, solution I propose concerning reducing abortion rates (which I offer, not based on the legality of abortion, but as a social solution that should be heartily embraced by the anti-choice crowd that claims to love children, born and unborn).
Perhaps I should further explain:
Its extremely difficult for many single mothers to raise a child, especially special-needs children. Women are often reviled by Republicans for having children they either aren’t willing to, or can’t afford to, care for by themselves (for whatever reasons, men get virtually a free pass on birth control and/or parenting responsibilities). Raising children has a very prohibitive cost, sometimes in excess of $200,000.
A lot of people would love to put children up for adoption, but the same conservatives who would prohibit abortion, are the same who whine about the prohibitive cost of adoption. Instead of putting their money where their mouths are, they would rather castigate women for getting pregnant in the first place, then make them have kids they can’t take care of, and either complain that the moms are drawing welfare, or force the woman to give up their child for adoption when these whiny conservatives have no intention of adopting them. Adoption can also be a risky proposition as states often consider making contact easier between birth mothers and adopted children without the other’s consent.
As you observed, social services will not place a child into a home for some couples, and single would-be parents have virtually no chance of adopting a child even if they have a good home environment and no income. Adoption processes would have to be made more accessible for anti-choice protesters to have credibility, but they’re not lobbying for easy adoptions– they’re arguing against abortion, while being unwilling to actually participate in the adoption process.
Prohibiting states from criminalizing abortion, and guaranteeing the privacy of a woman to make her own decision, are precisely what’s at stake.
While it’s interesting that the GOP has largely forgotten Ronald Reagan signed one of the most liberal abortion bills in 1966 while he was governor of California (they’ve also forgotten that Goldwater championed Choice, as well), I bet most Republicans have also forgotten that Richard Nixon created the EPA which today’s Republicans so villify. That the GOP has been taken over by anti-environmentalist and anti-abortion hog callers is nothing new, but it is lamentable.
It’s an interesting prediction, but you offer no source to back up your guarantee that “at most, an overturning of Roe v. Wade would result in two or three states restricting the practice, and women voters would change the legislatures that voted on that issue in an election cycle.”
I’m certainly not arguing that abortion should be illegal– quite the opposite. I think that it’s a sad practice that should be prevented if possible (by promoting virtually-no-cost and accessible birth control, free Norplant for those under a certain income level, and, as you observed, easier adoption procedures). But abortion has been around for hundreds, possibly thousands, of years.
Perhaps I should amend my law to require Anti-Choice Men to adopt four special-needs children, AND take on two foster children, as well.
August 20th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Let’s make it simple.
If we’re claiming that a zygote is a person, then a sperm is potentially a person, and therefore any sperm deliberately not injected into a woman’s reproductive tract is an act of murder.
Ergo, if abortion is outlawed, male masturbation should be criminalized.
August 20th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
You mean, every sperm is sacred? Every sperm is great? If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate?
“Let the heathen spill theirs on the dusty ground. God shall make them pay for each sperm that can’t be found!”
(Apologies to Monty Python. hee hee hee…)
August 20th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Depending on how hairy his palms are, I would bet Popeye, with his forearms, is a serial killer.
August 20th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
All I know about abortion is that I am stressed enough as it is, and don’t need to obsess over the issue. All I hope for is a few moments notice of intent to abort, just out of courtesy. I’ll just say thanks for telling me, and then I’m done.
August 20th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Alan, about this abortion situation, you are right!, the republicans are going so low with this to even suggest that Obama is willing to kill babies, well after all the crap or should I say bullcrap they have said I’m not surprised. I hope we can clear Obama’s name.
August 20th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
I can’t believe you went for “Love Will Keep Us Together” instead of the Captain and Tennille singing “Muskrat love”.
Muskrat Suzie, muskrat Sam ……
August 20th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
The defense of Hussein Obama on infanticide is incredible!
yes, yes, absolutely I say to you if there was a baby who survived an abortion attempt, Hussein Obama would chase it with a meat cleaver and kill it.
Someone should make the youtube video portraying this concept, but only based on the facts of Obama’s beliefs and voting record
August 20th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
What these Right Wingers seem to forget is…If you ban abortion…It will simply go underground and you’ll have no control over it….Just like what happened during prohibition.
August 20th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Hey Bradley– How’s your newly-adopted family of special-needs children doing?
God bless you for demonstrating with your wallet and your heart, just how much you care for the little children of America.
August 20th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
For real, Bradley– Speaking of REAL infanticide…Do you buy any Chinese-made products? Inquiring minds want to know…
August 20th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Every election cycle it comes up. Abortion is the defining issue of our time. If you believe in abortion, you more than likely are a liberal, believe more in fuzzy morals than hard and fast ones. It probably goes back to a belief that man is his own god and should answer to his own inner self, rather than a belief in a God who sets down rules and wants us to follow them. The core of our existence is that we have choice. Not that we can decide what God’s laws are, however, only whether we wish to follow them. Either way, we will live with the consequences of the decisions we make.
Believing that man is free of choose, I believe we should defend that freedom to choose for ourselves and all men. This means that an unborn child’s right to live outweighs the right of a mother to take that right away. I believe that we have the right to defend our freedom to choose by force, if necessary. I also believe that a person loses his freedom when he deprives another of their freedom to choose. I personally do not believe that society should use the death penalty, but society does have the right to constrain a person from taking away another’s right to life, and to punish them if they do.
August 20th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
It’s not a child, Larry, it’s a fetus…biology 101, or didn’t pass that one?
August 20th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Okay, Larry. Then how do we punish the “decider guy” who ordered the deaths of over 4000 of our soldiers and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis in this senseless, useless war?
Oh yes, I forgot. You people believe in saving the fetus, not the child.
August 20th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
“You mean, every sperm is sacred?”
LoL, nice quote.
[But you notice that no one's addressing my point, because it involves male reproductive freedom, and that puts it beyond the narrow avenues of thought that we trudge along every day.]
August 20th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Larry,
Get back to us when you are more excerised about cluster bombs, (the gift that keeps on killing), and the fact that we have a higher infant mortality rate than Cuba.
Or how about the women who want but can’t afford pre natal care?
Or how about:
“A toxic component of rocket fuel has been found in breast milk of women in 18 states and store-bought milk from various locations around the country.
http://www.livescience.com/health/050224_rocket_fuel.html
Or do we draw the line when the life of the post born interfers with corporate profits?
August 20th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Sarah:
On the issue of every sperm being sacred, that actually has been an issue in the past of the church in reference to the story of Onin in Genesis. That is why the Vatican has been against masturbation.
And I wasn’t making a pro-life argument in the first post, I just was saying that your charge that a lot of anti-abortion activists should engage in adoption isn’t entirely fair because it is very difficult to adopt a child. I’ve known people who had a good income and great job stability and they had to wait seven or eight years, and like I said (I didn’t mean to say no income, I meant high income) single parents have to walk through fire to get a kid. And the double standard Republicans have towards gay adoption is utterly ludicrous, especially when studies have shown children raised by gay couples grow up to have whatever sexual orientation comes naturally to them and that the rate of sexual abuse (a red herring for the fundamentalists) is actually lower than among heterosexual foster parents, in fact it is almost nonexistent because of the few states that allow gays the financial contracts to permit a stable homelife.
And as far as the few states that would oppose abortion, only three states have appealed Roe v. Wade since Alito was confirmed for the Supreme Court (I know Louisiana was one, I don’t remember the other two off the top of my head) and the decreasing number of people who oppose all abortion plus the younger generation being more inclined toward choice, like gay rights, says this issue will be over in two or three presidential election cycles. It sounds good to say you are against Roe v. Wade, but when push comes to shove most people shy away from doing anything against it because the political backlash would be a career ending move.
I think the Republican party is going to end up resembling the Libertarians because a number of Reagan babies are turning out to be fiscal conservatives (somewhat ironically considering the deficit of the 1980s) but more sympathetic to these ridiculous social anachronisms. And the growing number of non-religious people in the United States will pretty much end the Falwell-K street alliance the GOP has abused for three decades that’s already slipped off since the Abramoff scandal exposed Ralph Reed and Falwell met his long overdue demise.
August 20th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
alan you give to catholic charities yet you are pro choice? arent you a little mixed up? lol. and you stated that mcain was backed by specuial interest. show me a candidate that isnt backed by special interest, or we could always pull up a list of campaign donors and find out right?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:22 am
Alan’s wife is Catholic.
And I’m sure all the years in the wilderness have left him craven and he’s grasping at straws to get a Democrat in the white house. I’m going to feel bad for him during the McCain administration.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:38 am
HEY, you bunch of idiots, if the conservatives want to preserve life, how come McCain is advocating to pick a fight with Russia?, and then the draft? look what he said yesterday… ok so, we save the life of an aborted baby who survived, so he can be drafted and then killed in the name of… freedom? or god? or what? a life is a life and if you idiots want to “protect” that life, you should do it all the way and not just during the conception.We have more than 4k people killed in Iraq and Afganistan, right?, so the taliban is still in hideout (BinLaden), so now McCain have to pick a fight with Russia, not even the europeans are doing anything to the Russians, and what do we do? Sign a missile treaty with Poland, so be ready for the Reagan years of Nuclear drillings in all the schools, and explain to those children that you defended during conception how you guys allow this to happen!!, shame on you.
August 21st, 2008 at 11:08 am
Well, Jani, if McCain is elected, I hope you’ve made peace with your maker, because it looks to me like he’s starting to provoke a war with Russia. And if that happens, it will mean our demise.
August 21st, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Pat, it’s a shame that abortion wasn’t legal when you were born, then your mother could have made a better choice and the world would have one less anti-semite.
August 21st, 2008 at 12:30 pm
If the abortion of a fetus is not murder, would someone kicking a pregnant woman in the stomach and causing the death of the fetus be charged with murder?
Why was scott peterson charged with 2 murders, that of his wife and his baby?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Jani, you seem to have a lot of misplaced sympathy for anti-abortion activists, and the red tape and expense that allegedly prohibit them from adopting all these babies they expect women to have.
If they want these embryos carried to term and born into the world, the anti-abortionists have an obligation to adopt them, or at least support them with increases to welfare, education, etc.
It’s none of my business how they do it. It’s only moral that they find some way to do it, instead of whining about how prohibitive adoption is.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Truth2Power, a fetus has the potential to be a fully-formed, ready-to-birth human being, but isn’t quite a fully-formed, ready-to-birth human being yet.
Why? Are you ready to adopt some fetuses?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Why? Are you ready to adopt some fetuses?
So I can only talk about the issue if I adopt children?
Okay, let’s play that game.
You can only talk about the war if you serve.
You can only talk about education if you are a teacher.
You can only talk about politicians if you are a politician.
Are you aware that mcsame actually has adopted a child?
August 21st, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Sure, you can talk about the issue (you don’t have to be so sensitive. Neocons are so sensitive and politically-correct!).
Just don’t make decisions for others (i.e., supporting politicians who would limit the right to legal abortions, or otherwise acting out against legal abortion), unless you’re prepared to walk the walk by adopting some unwanted, unplanned, unsupported children who are BORN.
Try to understand the rules of “that game” (a hideous characterization on your part, as if this were a game) before you play.
Cliffs Notes version: If you’re against abortion, what are you going to do to prevent the necessity of abortion in the first place? Are you advocating low-cost, highly accessible birth control? And what are you doing to care for the children that you insist be born? Are you willing to increase welfare? Are you willing to take on foster children? Are you willing to adopt?
Or would you rather just sit around, talking about how horrible women are who get abortions, cut their welfare funding after you’ve forced them to have children, and self-righteously point at them saying “they deserve what they get, fornicators!”?
And sure, I’m aware McCain has adopted. That’s one of the things that makes me respect him. If he chooses Joe Lieberman as a running mate, I might vote for him.
August 21st, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Sarah,
There is low-cost, highly accessible form of birth control. It’s called a CONDOM. Maybe some more people should get familiar with them.
August 21st, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Gayle,
What about husbands who won’t use them, but use viagra, and clergy and family who always stress the importance of pleasing your husband and keeping the marriage together.
Some women are in abusive situations, and can’t let a pregnancy keep them there.
Some are 12 or 13 and the father is THIER father.
This isn’t about birth control but,
I had a great aunt who had a hysterectomy, and told her husband that the doctor “sewed her up too tight”, and they had to put that part of their lives behind them.
She was much happier after that.
August 21st, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Some women are in abusive relationships…….Now there’s a good reason to get an abortion. Let’s kill a baby instead of walk out on the creep. And yes, I can say something like that cause I was in an abusive marriage. That reasoning makes me want to vomit!!!!
August 21st, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Then you know that just walking out isn’t all that easy for some. Once she has the baby there can be legal restraints, and often is harder for her to get out, I guess it’s better that he kill them both, then she abort an embryo.
Codoms are not the problem here.
And what about the thirteen year old impregnated by the dad?
When we have an infant mortality higher than Cuba’s, and have dropped cluster bombs in Iraq , which kill and maim children for years, rocket fuel is showing up in breast milk in 18 states, I think there are enough problems to worry about just with the born,
August 21st, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Let’s not forget the main issue here: It’s. Not. Your. Body. It’s hers. Leave people alone and stop trying to make invasive laws.
“You can only talk about the war if you serve.
You can only talk about education if you are a teacher.”
Wow. Actually, that makes a hell of a lot of sense.
August 21st, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Sarah, you wrote: “God bless you for demonstrating with your wallet and your heart, just how much you care for the little children of America.”
and about China?
first I try NOT to buy anything made in China, but when lazy slacker Americans refuse to build products, or ignorant fools block trade with other nations leaving only China, then for now unfortunately I buy some things made in China.
Why do you aks this? And what do you mean from the first question?
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:17 am
quote: “Some women are in abusive situations, and can’t let a pregnancy keep them there.
Some are 12 or 13 and the father is THIER father.”
women in abusive situations or having been victimized is one thing. Neither of these justify an abortion.
Hussein Obama showed the nation he REALLY does believe in infanticide by his statements on NOT allowing a child that survived a botched abortion the chance to live; Alan your comments today about this are off track, Obama was clear in his belief that the abortion must proceed, if the child survives? you liberals yell KILL IT!!
you libs cant even stay on track, what if a child survives a botched abortion and is delivered alive and viable?
should the law say the baby killer/chopper doctor must save it?
you do know the murdered child is sold for parts? This grey/black market sells the parts to companies/interests who have cash;
Hussein Obama wants to protect the rights of baby chop shops; and you liberals deny it? absolutely no intellectual honesty!
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:26 am
” Hussein Obama showed the nation he REALLY does believe in infanticide by his statements on NOT allowing a child that survived a botched abortion the chance to live”
……………………………….
I don’t know who is worse, those who know this is a lie and promote it anyway, because they can’t bear for their side to lose?
Or those who are SOOO easily manipulated as to believe it just because some right wing wackadoodle told them it was so.
Poor America!
August 22nd, 2008 at 9:15 am
I especially like the anti-abortion but pro death penalty crowd, now there’s an oxymoron. Or the anti-abortion but pro war crowd. Killing innocent civilians in Iraq is okay, but allowing a woman to choose what to do wtih her body is wrong. Hey, I know a radical interpertation of a popular world religion that also degrades women; can we guess what it is? We should call the anti-abortion crowd in the US what it is the Christian Taliban.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Wow, Alan…..after reading some of your hate mail and the related comments, it amazes how amazingly intelligent, well-mannered, respectful some of these…..um, “people” are. (And yes, that statement is positively dripping with sarcasm).
They are, in effect, the very essence of the “low information voter”. They find it far too difficult to think for themselves, so they’ve signed over their thinking rights to whichever mudslinger has been lucky enough to find the frequency that properly communicates with their tiny little lizard-brains. Then they magnify it exponentially and unleash it gleefully on the world using any means at their disposal, no matter how absurd or how vitriolic, and no matter how little they actually understand the topic on which they are bloviating.
Dude, they had better be paying you well to deal with this torch-and-pitchfork mob. Just sayin’.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:36 pm
I don’t know who is worse, those who know this is a lie and promote it anyway, because they can’t bear for their side to lose?
Or those who are SOOO easily manipulated as to believe it just because some right wing wackadoodle told them it was so.
OL, this is just what the left does, they know the lie that Bush lied when he didnt, but they promote it anyway because they cant bear their side lose;
lefties are SOOOO easily manipulated to believe it because CNN, msnbc, abc or the other democrat media outlets said it…
in this case, it was what Hussein Obama said himself that got this issue going
August 22nd, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Bradely, you sound like the overindulgent parent who is SOOO certain that Little Pookie is perfect, that before you know it, the teacher is lying, the school is lying, the coach, neighbors, and police, are ALL part of the “blame Little Pookie first crowd”.
Those who believe Bush was lying (ON ALL sides..right, left, middle), come to that conclusion from the Bush people’s OWN writings:
From aluminum tubes, Rumsfeld saying that he knew where the weapons were: “They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad.” Uranium in Niger, Unmanned aerial vehicles capable of launching a chemical or biological attack in 45 minutes., Downing Street memos, Bush saying that Sadaam won’t let the inspectors do their job, while they were bulldozing al-Samood missiles, Jessica Lynch, Pat Tillman….
From:
A Charge to Keep: My Journey to the White House (Paperback)
by George W. Bush (Author), Mickey Herskowitz (Author) “I am going to give each of you a huge sum, $86,400″ the minister told the several hundred people gathered in the down Austin church…” (more)
Key Phrases: school property taxes, reading initiative, orange socks, Henry Lee Lucas, Karla Faye Tucker, Governor of Texas
He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999,” said author and journalist Mickey Herskowitz. “It was on his mind. He said to me: ‘One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.’ And he said, ‘My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it.’ He said, ‘If I have a chance to invade•.if I had that much capital, I’m not going to waste it. I’m going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I’m going to have a successful presidency.” Herskowitz said that Bush expressed frustration at a lifetime as an underachiever in the shadow of an accomplished father. In aggressive military action, he saw the opportunity to emerge from his father’s shadow. The moment, Herskowitz said, came in the wake of the September 11 attacks. “Suddenly, he’s at 91 percent in the polls, and he’d barely crawled out of the bunker.
From the PNAC:
Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategies, Forces, and Resources For a New Century (2000),
Pp.51
“Futher,the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor.”
Paul Wolfowitz
Vanity Fair interview
May 28, 2003
“For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction (as justification for invading Iraq) because it was the one reason everyone could agree on”.
Donald Rumsfeld
ABC Interview
March 30, 2003
We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
On CNN:
, Bush saying that Sadaam won’t let the inspectors in, WHILE the inspectors were bulldozing al-Samood missiles.
Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, Powell’s chief of staff, and Powell himself later lamented that they had not been warned about Curveball. And McLaughlin told the Washington Post in 2006, “If someone had made these doubts clear to me, I would not have permitted the reporting to be used in Secretary Powell’s speech.” But, in fact, their caution was ignored.
They LOVED Sadaam till he got uppity, and started trading in euros.
August 23rd, 2008 at 9:52 am
it would be helpful if this website made it easier to find these,
OL, taking your example of over indulgent parents who cant believe the facts, ok its fine if you want to start with this; it comes down to taking a truthful look at the facts, right? it comes down to only considering the absolute real events that really took place, Id have to look at the facts and admit if something was right or not.
at the end of the first gulf war? what was happening? if Saddam was toppled there would be religious islamic fanatics taking over, or certainly Kaos;
but thats when Clinton took power and refused to take any tough action out of fear of making a mistake and being an incompetent President who was later impeached. While Clinton played a saxophone and his brother was a cocaine dealer Saddam was becoming a more powerful world threat and enabler of terrorism.
If someone said: so, how’s the world peace thing going? in the 1990s the answer was well Irak and the Saddam regime are about the biggest problem. imagine that, every day it was some news about Saddam being another Hitler. younger people today have no clue about daily news of that time.
so if you say in 1999 GW Bush wanted to oust Saddam? its what Clinton SHOULD have done but didnt, its a failure of the Clinton administration; it was something you heard on world news and you would say someone out to oust Saddam and just bomb that place!
so your trying to pawn off the idea that GW Bush was in on some conspiracy to ‘get’ Saddam prior to 9/11? this can work on the 20 somethings who were in elementary school back when it was happening;
and then you also have to accept the fact that there is a smear of information related to anything the CIA reports, you cannot just say well a former CIA agent said xyz, so it must be true
and you cannot just make the allegation and leave it there and say the accusation must mean guilty, so no effort is needed to blame Bush of lying
If you listen to the vast right wing conspiracy in the coming weeks, youll hear what Biden had been saying
August 24th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
hate mail is the greatest thing to read… well, next to Alan’s reponse… the only thing I have against this post is that they were lip-sinking.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:22 am
Alan,
You can’t possibly believe the garbage you spew on a daily basis.I must believe you are Sean’s counter-
part strictly for entertainment reasons.You belong in Hollywood with the rest of the freaks. Perhaps when you
move there ya’ll could then secede from the United States and tax yourselves to death.
October 9th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Dion…
Never mistake knowledge for wisdom. One helps you make a living; the other helps you make a life….
October 27th, 2008 at 3:35 am