Conservative Family Values

In her speech in Dayton today, Gov. Sarah Palin announced that she and her husband are celebrating their 20th wedding anniversary, which means they were married on August 29, 1988.
On April 20, 1989 – less than eight months after they eloped – their first son, Track, was born.
I think I can guess the real reason why they eloped, and it wasn’t to save money on an expensive wedding.









This is just a shot at someone that has a different political opinion and not a concern about the issue of being pregnant out of wedlock.
If not, I would think that there will be many posts talking about the number of children being born out of wedlock that vote democrat.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Any future links about Bernie Ward and his out of wedlock sexual escapades?
August 29th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
geezzz Alan, scraping the shit from the bottom of the barrel aren’t you?
August 29th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Have you ever looked at when Barack was born in relation to his mother’s “marriage” to his father? Even Rove hasn’t trotted that one out.
You are slime Colmes, pure hate filled slime.
August 29th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
In all fairness, the baby could have been conceived after August 29. April 20 would be around 37 weeks, which could still be condsidered a term baby.
http://pregnancy.about.com/od/gettingpregnant/p/duedate.htm
August 29th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
As for the ‘hate filled slime’ name calling – and the other ‘born out of wedlock’ comments about democrats, WE are not shoving the ‘family values’, moral, religious, ‘higher than thou’ crap down everyones throat. If it turns out they ‘had’ to get married as they say, we have every right to ‘rub their noses’ in it regardless of how many democrats you find in similar situations. BTW, the child was probably ‘conceived’ out of wedlock – he was not ‘born’ out of wedlock.
August 29th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
I agree with Hope. The republicans are constantly touting they’re the “family values” group. Oh the hypocracy!
And Bernie Ward isn’t running for president and I don’t recall him proclaiming to be part of the moral majority. You know like Newt Gingrich, Ted Haggard (that’s a good one), Larry Craig, etc.
You conservatives can sure dish it out, but you can’t take it.
August 29th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
oooohh!!!! She got pregnant BEFORE they were married!!
Oh my God, she must be a whore!! I wonder if BHO and his hateful wife had sex before they were married?? Maybe someone should ask them that question. Is that all you have on her?? Pathetic scumbags you people are. Just scum of the earth. Alan, you should be ashamed of yourself.
P.S. Ask a real question, like the involvement of BHO and his terrorist friends!!!!!!
A question that matters
August 29th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Right on, Hope for Change!
I have to confess something here… being a moderate, the addition of Gov. Palin to McCain’s ticket is VERY appealing to me. And I am the exact kind of voter McCain was hoping to attract- ex-Clinton supporters who haven’t made up their mind on Obama.
(Remember Alan, I’m not a liberal, which is why I have to look at both potential administrations to see which one I could better live with. I’m not going to agree with everything on each ticket. The only thing I really like about Obama is his proposed tax cuts. As for the war, McCain doesn’t seem so deadset on leaving our troops in Iraq for “100 years”. However, I will say that I like that Obama wants to transfer the focus of the war to Afghanistan.)
August 29th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Tee hee. You lot seem to specialise in missing the point. What you seem not to understand is that most of us on the left don’t give two tosses about where and when grown-ups touch genitals with other adults – it is holier-than-thou hypocracy we are so allergic to.
Anti-abortion types (I refuse to say ‘pro-life) who hustle their own teenagers off to the d&c merchants… legislators that bay for a President to be impeached over a blow-job while they carry on their own affairs without missing a beat… anti-gay crusaders picking up page boys or cruising toilets for anal thrills…
In the lovely lady’s bio, she claims to have eloped to save money on an expensive wedding, eight months before giving birth. Oops… a little revisionist, methinks! Chalk up one in the porkie column for Miss Alaska on Day One.
August 29th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Re Palin: I hope I misheard her pronounce “nuclear” as “nookular.” Bush drove me nuts with that for eight years.
August 29th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Another thing I really giggle out is the implicit acceptance of the truth that people like Rezko occasionally let slip:
“Even Rove isn’t that low!”
August 29th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
I personally think it funny that the party of moral values has a gaffe like this on the first day, the hypocrasy astounds me. On another note I think the mere mention of hillary’s achievements and jumping the bandwagon to say we can take it further was pure pandering and patronizing to women. That is political slime. To all the Hillary supporters out there who voted for that are switching allegance now you were for a woman candidate not a democrat and you should be ashamed if you vote McCain
Go Obama!!!!!!!
August 29th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
@Rezko
So Obama had control over who his parents’ were and the circumstances which he was born into?
I think that Alan is not necessarily passing judgement on Palin’s marriage so much as he is pointing on the hypocrisy of the “family values” party which has put on its ticket for President a man who had an affair that ended his first marriage and a woman who became pregnant before her marriage. Then the Republicans try to turn around and say that the Democrats are the “party of adultery” and lack moral values.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
……not that any of that has anything to do with whether McCain will be a good president or Palin will be a good VP. The point is that if you’re going to “talk the talk” and act holier than thou when talking about Democrats, you’d better be “walking the walk” too.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
I knew Barack HUSSEIN Obamas’ mother was a whore! Why else would any white woman lay down with a darkie, it could be that he was her pimp and that he wanted to share in the “social welfare” programs that they would be entitled to once the “Bastard Barack” was expelled from the stretched out, disease ridden orifice his “mother” possessed. I also undersand that Baracks “momma” spent a fair amount of time in Hawaii, I now surmise that she was “on the stroll” along the heavily trafficed Waikiki Beach where “John” routinely engaged in sins of the flesh with “ladies of the evening”. How proud must have Baracks maternal grandmother have been when she realized her daughter had been defiled by such as Baracks father.
August 29th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
P.S. Ask a real question, like the involvement of BHO and his terrorist friends!!!!!!
A question that matters
Posted by TB
……………………………………….
The Bush family’s connections to the bin Ladin family, and the Bin Ladin Group were much much more important.
Bush Jr sells his shares of Harkin energy to Salem bin Ladin, Bush Sr was watching 9/11 with Shafig bin Ladin (both Osama’s brothers), at the Ritz Carlton, Saudi Prince Bandar is nicknamed Bandar Bush by the president’s mother.
Also:
The Arabian candidate
How George W. Bush’s close ties to Islamic lobbying groups — and to an accused supporter of Palestinian terrorism — may have brought him his razor-thin margin of victory in Florida.
By Craig Unger
March 15, 2004 | On March 12, 2000, Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush and his wife, Laura, met with Muslim leaders at a local mosque in Tampa, Fla. Among them was Sami Al-Arian, a Kuwaiti-born Palestinian who was an associate professor of engineering at the University of South Florida. George and Laura Bush had their photo taken with him. He told the candidate, “The Muslim people support you.” Bush met their lanky son, Abdullah Al-Arian, and, in a typically winning gesture, even nicknamed him “Big Dude.” In return, Big Dude’s father, Sami Al-Arian, vowed to campaign for Bush — and he soon made good on his promise in mosques all over Florida.
But Al-Arian had unusual credentials for a Bush campaigner. Since 1995, as the founder and chairman of the board of World and Islam Enterprise (WISE), a Muslim think tank, Al-Arian had been under investigation by the FBI for his associations with Islamic Jihad, the Palestinian terrorist group. Al-Arian brought in Ramadan Abdullah Shallah, the No. 2 leader in Islamic Jihad, to be the director of WISE. A strong advocate of suicide bombings against Israel, Shallah was allegedly responsible for killing scores of Israelis in such attacks.
Imagine if we had seen endless loops of that for the 04 election?
Can’t be because this is a powerful, white, old moneyed family, can it?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100474,00.html
President Bush’s grandfather was a director of a bank seized by the federal government because of its ties to a German industrialist who helped bankroll Adolf Hitler’s rise to power, government documents show.
Union Banking was seized by the government in October 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act
August 29th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
so they had sex before marriage and then got married?
talk about your christian family values conservative republican, right?
I know somewhere in the bible it says:
‘thou shall not f*** before marriage’
Right?
You bible followering republicans, try to defend this woman after she COMMITTED SIN!!!!
August 29th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
“I knew Barack HUSSEIN Obamas’ mother was a whore!”
YOU MEAN HOW JOHN MCCAIN LEFT HIS FIRST WIFE WHILE HE WAS DATING ANOTHER WOMAN, WHILE STILL MARRIED TO HIS FIRST?
AND NOW HIS VP HAD SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE??
WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE FROM THE CHRISTIAN REPUBLICANS ON THEIR CANDIDATES?
HANNITY? OREILLY? RUSH? not a word!
cindy mccain is a whore for dating mccain while he was still married to another woman!
August 29th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Ahem. It’s spelled hypocrisy.
August 29th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
And Michael knows this. Good.
August 29th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
The Leftards are on the attack… “ATTACK THE WHORE WHO DIDN’T ABORT HER RETARD KID!!”… (yes.. i been hearing forms of this attack from the Left.. of course they say it about one degree less offensively than that)
I beseech you kind, compassionate, tolerant, open-minded Leftists… make sure you raise these issues with as many people as possible.
August 29th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
CHECKMATE!
August 29th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
“ATTACK THE WHORE WHO DIDN’T ABORT HER RETARD KID!!”…
Posted by Vince P
Funny, you’re the only one I’ve heard say this. Do you have something against women who have children that are less-than-republican perfect?
August 29th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
What’s wrong with being a “man of honor” and marrying/eloping with the mother of your soon to be child? What did you on the “liberal left” want him to do? Should he have acted like most “men” of the black race and abandon his girlfriend while she was pregnant? Should he have taken the same path as the “nigger” that dumped his rancid seed into Barack the Bastards’ mother and run away leaving her to survive on social welfare programs? This man took the honorable path and supported his pregnant mate then stood by her side even after learning that the child may have been developmentally challenged. Those in “Black America” would never consider staying with the mama of even a healthy child and before the niglet dropped from the well used womb of the nigress carrying it would have already spurted his seed into many other beeatches.
August 29th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
TDRO: I know what I heard on various Radio shows today. Don’t twist my words against me.
Try to have some honesty and integrity.
August 29th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Alan,
I hope you have her on H&C, so you can interrogate, virtually waterboard even, the lady on this crucial issue.
Because it will make you look so cool and stuff.
Cheers,
Chris
August 29th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
And I know what I heard on various radio and TV shows today and I’ve heard NOTHING said as vile as you’ve stated above – either from the right or the left.
That leads me to believe that you are deliberately instigating malcontent against a woman. That makes you a misogynist who lacks honesty and/or integrity.
August 29th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
I am not concerned about the sex before marraige arguement, and I applaud her for her decision to keep her son. however, I would be more impressed if the hard right water carriers didn’t bring it up every few minutes to show how incredible she is. As a parent of a disabled child I know the challenges involved. But I would never use her for political gain. And I would never let Sean Hannity, and Rush Limbaugh, and the rest use her condition either. A real lack of class from Hannity….But, what do you expect.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:27 am
” I would be more impressed if the hard right water carriers didn’t bring it up every few minutes to show how incredible she is”
I agree with you… I’m actually sick of hearing about it. Though I suppose each one has to talk as if their audience hasn’t heard it yet. It was rather boring in radio-land on Friday…. even the hysterical Leftist reactions were all the same.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:20 am
So, the fact that she may have been pregnant when they got married means that she’s lying about why they eloped? If she was pregnant, she certainly wasn’t far enough along to “look” pregnant, and could have had a traditional wedding if they had chosen to, don’t you think? It’s not exactly like they’re hiding the date they got married or they date their son was born.
And, BTW, I consider the fact that they didn’t abort the baby and that they married and took care of their child as being a demonstration of family values. To assume that in order to promote those values one has to have practiced them perfectly is absurd.
August 30th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
reasons why the squaw Palin should’nt be vp….
What is McCain Thinking? One Alaskan’s Perspective.
29 08 2008
Lovely Downtown Wasilla, Alaska
“Is this a joke?” That seemed to be the question du jour when my phone started ringing off the hook at 6:45am here in Alaska. I mean, we’re sort of excited that our humble state has gotten some kind of national ‘nod’….but seriously? Sarah Palin for Vice President? Yes, she’s a popular governor. Her all time high approval rating hovered around 90% at one point. But bear in mind that the 90% approval rating came from one of the most conservative, and reddest-of-the-red states out there. And that approval rating came before a series of events that have lead many Alaskans to question the governor’s once pristine image.
There is no doubt in my mind that many Alaskans are feeling pretty excited about this. But we live in our own little bubble up here, and most of the attention we get is because of The Bridge to Nowhere, polar bears, the indictment of Ted Stevens, and the ongoing investigation and conviction of the string of legislators and oil executives who literally called themselves “The Corrupt Bastards Club”.
So seeing our governor out there in the national spotlight accepting the nomination for Vice Presidential candidate is just downright surreal. Just months ago, when rumors surfaced that she was on the long version of the short list, she was questioned if she’d be interested in the position. She said she couldn’t answer “until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day. I’m used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we’re trying to accomplish up here….”
There is no doubt that Palin has fierce territorial loyalties. When elected governor there was much concern because she came right out and said she would favor her own home town of Wasilla (where she was mayor) and its surrounding environs collectively known as “the Valley” while leading the state. And it’s obvious from her statement that Alaska was on her mind when accepting the VP nod (see my emphasis above).
So what is it that we’re “trying to accomplish up here”?
* Palin is currently in the middle of a controversial gas pipeline project in Alaska. She’s favored the ‘Trans Canada’ proposal that will run the pipeline through Canada, in effect shipping US jobs over the border. Many Alaskans, including former governors, have favored the “All Alaska Route”.
* She is also sueing the federal government over listing the polar bears as a threatened species. The science was even compelling enough to convince the Secretery of the Interior that the bears needed to be listed. But acknowlegement of this issue, and the potential disruption to development on Alaska’s oil-rich north slope spurred Palin to attempt to stop the listing.
* Does she want to open ANWR? Yes. Every politician in Alaska wants to open ANWR. It’s basically a requirement if you ever hope to get elected for anything. Even Mark Begich, the progressive Democrat running against the indicted Senator and Alaskan institution Ted Stevens, is pro-drilling. That’s the sea we swim in up here. There are a few anti-drilling folks, but you have to look hard to find them, and work hard to have them admit it.
Will all this wash with voters in the ‘Lower 48′? Time will tell.
18 Million Cracks in the Glass Ceiling
It was obvious anyway, but became beat-you-over-the-head-with-a-two-by-four obvious when Palin referenced the ‘glass ceiling’ line, that this choice is a blatant pander to women. I would like to believe that women will actually feel insulted by this. Yes, it would have been historic if Hillary had gotten the nomination. It was historic that she made it as far as she did. Yes, it would be great to have a woman in the oval office, or in the VP slot if they are the right woman…a woman who got there with her own drive, grit, determination, intelligence, skill and merits. When you’re hand-picked by a man to win votes simply because you are a woman, that doesn’t count, and it doesn’t break any kind of ceiling. Would we have had a Stan Palin as our VP pick? No. So choosing a woman because you think her gender will get votes is insulting.
Governor “Squeakyclean”….or not.
Another focus of Palin’s introduction today was her reform image. Listen to John McCain and you’ll hear about a maverick reformer who took on big oil, took on corrupt Alaska politicians, and whose ethics are unquestioned.
Alaskans really want to like Sarah Palin. In a state where corruption is the rule, and the same faces keep recycling over and over and over again like a bad dream, a new face, with a promise of reform seemed like a breath of fresh air. Palin defeated incumbent governor Frank Murkowski (father of Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski who he appointed to his own Senate seat when he was elected governor) because he was such an obnoxious, bloviating, downright BAD politician. This staunchly republican state voted with relief, not having to cross over and vote Democratic, but still able to get Murkowski the hell out of office. In the general election Palin swept into office running against a former Democratic governor, Tony Knowles, who was capable but came with baggage. And he represented to Alaskans more of the same, tired old-style politics, and special interests that we have come to loathe.
So, if McCain had made his selection six months ago, the squeaky-clean governor meme would have made a little more sense. But, Sarah Palin is currently under an ethics investigation by the Alaska state legislature. The details of this investigation read like a trashy novel, and I suspect that the players will soon have newfound celebrity on the national stage. I’ll try to explain for all you non-Alaskans who suddenly have good reason to want to know more about Sarah Palin. For those of you not interested in trashy novels, feel free to skip ahead. Here it is…what we in Alaska call “TrooperGate”.
Sarah Palin’s sister Molly married a guy named Mike Wooten who is an Alaska State Trooper. Mike and Molly had a rocky marriage. When the marriage broke up, there was a bitter custody fight that is still ongoing. During the custody investigation, all sorts of things were brought up about Wooten including the fact that he had illegally shot a moose (yes folks this is Alaska), driven drunk, and used a taser (on the test setting, he reminds us) on his 11-year old stepson, who supposedly had asked to see what it felt like. While Wooten has turned out to be a less than stellar figure, the fact that Palin’s father accompanied him on the infamous moose hunt, and that many of the dozens of charges brought up by the Palin family happened long before they were ever reported smacked of desperate custody fight. Wooten’s story is that he was basically stalked by the family.
After all this, Wooten was investigated and disciplined on two counts and allowed to kept his position with the troopers. Enter Walt Monegan, Palin’s appointed new chief of the Department of Public Safety and head of the troopers. Monegan was beloved by the troopers, did a bang-up job with minimal funding and suddenly got axed. Palin was out of town and Monegan got “offered another job” (aka fired) with no explanation to Alaskans. Pressure was put on the governor to give details, because rumors started to swirl around the fact that the highly respected Monegan was fired because he refused to fire the aforementioned Mike Wooten. Palin vehemently denied ever talking to Monegan or pressuring Monegan in any way to fire Wooten, or that anyone on her staff did. Over the weeks it has come out that not only was pressure applied, there were literally dozens of conversations in which pressure was applied to fire him. Monegan has testified to this fact, spurring an ongoing investigation by the Alaska state legislature. But, before this investigation got underway, Palin sent the Alaska State Attorney General out to do some investigative work of his own so she could find out in advance what the real investigation was going to find. (No, I’m not making this up). The AG interviewed several people, unbeknownst to the actual appointed investigator or the Legislature! Palin’s investigation of herself uncovered a recorded phone call retained by the Alaska State Troopers from Frank Bailey, a Palin underling, putting pressure on a trooper about the Wooten non-firing. Todd Palin (governor’s husband) even talked to Monegan himself in Palin’s office while she was away. Bailey is now on paid administrative leave.
As if this weren’t enough, Monegan’s appointed replacement Chuck Kopp, turns out to have been the center of his own little scandal. He received a letter of reprimand and was reassigned after sexual harrassment allegations by a former coworker who didn’t like all the unwanted kissing and hugging in the office. Was he vetted? Obviously not. When he was questioned about all this, his comment was that no one had asked him and he thought they all knew. Kopp, defiant, still claimed to have done nothing wrong and said to the press that there was no way he was stepping down from his new position. Twenty four hours later, he stepped down. Later it was uncovered that he received a $10,000 severance package for his two weeks on the job from Palin. Monegan got nothing.
After extensive news coverage about all this nasty behind-the-scenes scandal, which is definitely NOT squeaky clean, Palin’s approval ratings fell to 67%, still high, but a far cry from the 90% number that’s being thrown around so glibly by the Republicans today. Alaskans are quickly becoming disillusioned once again.
“Executive Experience”
Before her meteoric rise to political success as governor, just two short years ago Sarah Palin was the mayor of Wasilla. I had a good chuckle at MSN.com’s claim that she had been the mayor of “Wasilla City”. It is not a city. Just Wasilla. Wasilla is the heart of the Alaska “Bible belt” and Sarah was raised amongst the tribe that believes creationism should be taught in our public schools, homosexuality is a sin, and life begins at conception. She’s a gun-toting, hang ‘em high conservative. Remember…this is where her approval ratings come from. There is no doubt that McCain again is making a strategic choice to appeal to a particular demographic – fundamentalist right-wing gun-owning Christians. And Republican bloggers are already gushing about how she has ‘more executive experience’ than Obama does! Above is a picture of lovely downtown Wasilla, for those of you unfamiliar with the area. Behind the Mug-Shot Saloon (the first bar I visited when I moved to Alaska long ago) is a little strip mall. There are street signs in Wasilla with bullet holes in them. Wasilla has a population of about 5500 people, and 1979 occupied housing units. This is where your potential Vice President was two short years ago. Can you imagine her negotiating a nuclear non-proliferation treaty? Discussing foreign policy? Understanding non-Alaskan issues? Frankly, I don’t even know if she’s ever been out of the country. She may ‘get’ Alaska, but there are only a half a million people here. Don’t get me wrong….I love Alaska with all my heart. I’m just saying.
I, and all Alaskans will be interested to see how this whole process unfolds. This is definitely a gamble for McCain, and in my humble opinion, a gift to Obama and to Joe Biden who just got thrown a big hunk of red meat for the vice presidential debate.
This is the wedge-issue, desperate ’Hail Sarah’ pass of the McCain campaign.
Now I’m off to get some Jiffy Pop.
August 30th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Wow SUNTAN… your really gonna cry when Obama wins in the fall… I guess you should go set up tent in Alaska.. Heard they’re aint that many single women up there.. I guess you could catch a moose and shag it, then eat it.. lol
August 30th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Dont you think Palins husband looks like a beer swilling, nigger hanging redneck, under acieving house husband..(lazy) Bastard.. lol
August 30th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Listen.. i’d rather vote obama with all his claimed associations..(rev wright, father pflager, etc)..but at least his shown true judgement to pick a credible vp.. not a hockey mom squaw.. John McNoBrains, should be stoned by the American people…Putin must be really shitting his pants with that pick..lol..Iran has now been given the green light to develope nukes.. the rest of the world must be laughing their heads off…frigging idiot…
August 30th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
its been so funny today..watching sean hannity and the rest of the 1 brain cell gang..defend this vp pick…im gonna watch jon stewart to get more jokes on this..hannitys excuse…err..she’s raising a disabled child…and? err she been a govenor…right..The race was close now JMsame has definately lost the election…lol
August 30th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Jerkoff,Jackaroo,Johnny, At least the candidate, I, a reistered democrat, (soon to switch to GOP) will not be voting for a “NIGGER” in November. You and your limp wristed pals will be crying in your wine spritzers over the landslide victory acheived by the McCAIN/Palin ticket. And to think I get to work the polls that day, as a senior poll worker it’s my responsibility to “process” the cartriges that contain the voters selections that day. You thought Al “the Asshole” Gore had problems in Florida, just you wait. If Mississsippi Alabama, and Ohio are any examples, there will multitudes of voter fraud committed by Democrats and their leftist minions like the “niggers” in the aforementioned states that bought votes for crack and cash up to $50.00 an absentee vote. This was committed by “blacks” who ran against “blacks”, what it shows is that when involved in Democratic Party politics yopu can take the nigger out of the ghetto, but you can’t take the ghetto nad its’ criminal nature out of any Democratic Nigger. I will insure there are no voting “irregularities” in MY district, but think just what am I doing behind the machine with the back open?
August 30th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Wow, Alan. This is the best you have on her! Seriously, my first child was born at 8 months! And, yes, some narrow minded people in my own family wondered. Had been married only 9 months. So, big deal. Don’t care….. Not an issue. And, is the fact she has been married for 20 years to the same person and raising a family, not the epitomy of ‘family values’.
Oh, probably not for some of you left-leaning folks, who think she should not run for a public office. Because, after all, she is a WOMAN and isn’t her place in the home! Geeez, Alan.
August 30th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
I live in Chicago , where Democrats have perfected vote fraud.
If you were to suggest to any Chicagoan that they need to beware Republican vote fraud, they’d die from laughter.
barack obama can’t unify his party… will certainty not “unify” with independents or republicans.
The central premise of his entire national political existence is a fraud.
It’s so obviously a fraud, yet you fools lap it up.. knowingly.
It doesn’t matter who Obama is running against.. this isn’t a question of relativity.. this is a question about him.
Obama’s Rasputin, Axelrod ran the current MA Gov’s Devall Patrick (or the other way around?) the exact same way…. hopey changey.. platitude platitude.
Did you folks ever listen to the lyrics of the song that Obama uses at all his appearances?
The more you see the less you know
The less you find out as you go
I knew much more then than I do now
Neon heart day-glow eyes
A city lit by fireflies
They’re advertising in the skies
For people like us
And I miss you when you’re not around
I’m getting ready to leave the ground
Oh you look so beautiful tonight
In the city of blinding lights
Don’t look before you laugh
Look ugly in a photograph
Flash bulbs purple irises
The camera can’t see
I’ve seen you walk unafraid
I’ve seen you in the clothes you made
Can you see the beauty inside of me?
What happened to the beauty I had inside of me?
(cut)
And I miss you when you’re not around
I’m getting ready to leave the ground
Oh you look so beautiful tonight
In the city of blinding lights
Time…time…time…time…time
Won’t leave me as I am
But time won’t take the boy out of this man
Oh you look so beautiful tonight
Oh you look so beautiful tonight
Oh you look so beautiful tonight
In the city of blinding lights
The more you know the less you feel
Some pray for others steal
Blessings are not just for the ones who kneel… luckily
——–
August 30th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Suntan, you’re a lying sack of shit. As if I’m gonna believe you gonna work in the voting district. I bet you don’t have voting age to start with. What I’m sure of is that you are a KKK wannabe, a throwback from the old days and love to harass black folks on the net but not in person.
You just a fucking racist asswipe, like most Repubs, and I will enjoy myself at your defeat in Nov. I’m gonna laugh at you for a whole week after Obama is President.
You can say whatever you want right now, but face it, GOP ain’t gonna win this year. People are tired of them, even soldiers in Iraq says so too. So keep your racial insults going cause you don’t have much time left.
As for Palin…it’s just McCain being McCain. Regular moron that think he will get Clinton’s voters cause he has a woman as VP. What an idiot, he just handed the election to the Dems. But at the same time, I do thank him for it, his idiotic choice will make it easy for voters to see he has no judgment whatsoever.
If the probe end up nailing Palin, what a laughing stock McMoron gonna be. Sure Fox so-called News will paint her as a great choice, but I’m sure the swearing off camera about it and they now know all is lost for GOP.
TC
Thank God I’m Canadian!!!!
August 30th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Alan, Could you please give us your source for the actual birthdate?
August 30th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Suntan you are a pathetic wannabe racist. The funny thing is you’ll never have the respect of anybody (KKK included) because your nothing more than a keyboard warrior. And I sincerely hope that you are of age to work a polling station so that you are caught in the act of voter fraud and are thrown into prison, where you will be summarily raped by the very racist white aryans you most likely idolize. I myself will be a polling judge, but unlike you Im going to run the polls fairly, and watch Obama/Biden take the White House.
August 30th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
BIG DEAL, ALEN!!!! GET A LIFE!!!
August 30th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
BIG DEAL, ALEN!!! GET A LIFE!!!
August 30th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Yeah, who cares but some ol prudes…”why I never!!!” They were high school sweethearts 7 years prior.He was an honorable guy to marry. Made an honest woman of her.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Brock, just the idea that I can plant a thought of supposed “voter fraud deep into your and those like you psyches makes my day. I do not tolerate “voter fraud” and try hard to make sure every voter eligible to vote does,. What I can do is once a voter signs in and receives a voting authority slip and then is directed to a polling booth but stops to socialize and complain to friends and neighbors that there are no receipts to ensure his vote was recorded, having forgot to vote then starts to exit the building I don’t have to, nor will I inform them that they failed to exercise their right to vote. Only after arriving home do they usually find the voter authority slip then race back to the polling place to find it’s two minutes past 8:00pm and their out of luck. I’m not responsible for malcontents who by their own actions deprive themselves of the chance to make a difference. Those that fall into this category are always crybaby Democrats who are still mourning the losses of Flip Flopper Kerry and Al “Asshole” Gore. I revel in the thought that these idiots repeatedly over the years have deprived themselves of the right to vote.
August 30th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Just kidding! What a couple of conservative hyp-whore-crites!
August 30th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
How ridiculous to even bring this up! Put your life under a microscope, Alan. How many sperm have you left along life’s pathways? Besides… ever hear of pre-mature births? Anyway… who cares. She bore a son… she loves him… she didn’t abort him! Yeah, Sarah!
August 30th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Raised on high lead crude oil on their fish fillets at home. No wonder the whole Palin famiiy’s “mutant”.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Brock, I guard those cartridges with my life. I will never allow some “Democratic Operative”, or “Democratic Challenger” to get within ten feet of that important item as we process the end of day paperwork. I workmin a heavily Republican district and will not allow some Democratic Stooge an opportunity any chance to pass a mgnet or any other electronic erasing device near the cartridges. That crap may happenin the ghetto/nigger districts in Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Ohio and Osamas’ “home” state of Illinois but will never happen in my district. It comical to watch Democratic crybabies whine and complain, rant ,rave and generally make complete fools of themselves harping on the fact that receipts are not provided, swearing that for every vote a democrat gets the machine automatically gives the republican three, then once fully enraged still reminisceing about the losses of Flip Flopper Kerry and Al “Asshole” Gore they stormout faing to have voted. It’s not my job to repeatedly remind these asshole to stay in line and vote. Once they leave the line my responsibility ends and if they leave only to come back minutes after the polls have closed and we’ve locked the doors too bad. People like the aforementioned Democratic crybabies will never learn and if I can instill the thought to these voter conspiracy theoryists that the election are fixed than good, they’re to weak minded to have been allowed to vote in the first place.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
so F-ing what?
And on a related note, I, too, am from Chicago. Just to let you all know, Obama has pretty much done NOTHING in Chicago. He has aligned himself with the powerful elite, he has promoted his own career at the expense of others, and most of the press he has received is all about his meteoric rise. I think he is 10% real, and 90% mythology and self-created hype.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Courageous Alan, you are showing some real stones lately, don’t stop.
As Americablog.com notes, democrats and progressives don’t care about childrens conception or try and legislate sex. BUT THE CHRISTIAN RIGHT DOES:
“Sarah Palin and John McCain and James Dobson care very much about the conception of your children. James Dobson, the very man McCain is wooing, himself decided that Mary Cheney’s out of wedlock conception was worthy of an entire commentary in TIME magazine only 18 months ago. It is at least fair to ask that Sarah Palin meet the James Dobson/Mary Cheney standard, and clarify for James Dobson and values voters everywhere whether her actions match her words.”
August 30th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
I am amused at the people who can’t spell hypocrisy but feel ready to throw the term around. The argument that the Christian right, or the Republicans, or the family values people or whatever, condemn individuals for premarital sex is one of the most ill-informed bigotries out there. Evangelicals are fond of bemoaning the lowering standards of society (including illegitimacy), but that’s hardly the same thing. Attitude toward individuals is not the same thing as attitude toward ideas.
You’re reaching, reaching, trying to show how bad your opponents are so you can feel self-righteous. That’s a little closer to the real meaning of hypocrisy.
August 30th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
You people are supposed to NOT care about moral things like this, right?
Get over yourself.
August 30th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
*** Have you ever looked at when Barack was born in relation to his mother’s “marriage” to his father? ***
Not just *when* they were married, but how old *she* was when Barack Jr was conceived – on the night of JFK’s election, when Barack Sr. finally talked her out of her panties.
She was 17.
So Sarah Palin was a little late, went down to the drugstore, bought a pregnancy-test-on-a-stick, and showed it to ber BF? So what!!! Even from a Christian perspective that’s no big deal. I happen to know several couples who got married right out of high school because they *had to*. They are all happy, successful, and religious.
If it’s true then what matters is that Palin has demonstrated her pro-life bona fides not once but at least twice in her life. Once at marriage, the second time after finding out the baby she was carrying would have Down Syndrome.
And I’ll give you both arms and all ten toes if Barack and Michelle were chaste prior to their marriage at the – ahem – TRINITY UNITED CHURCH OF CHRIST.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:12 am
This is a valid subject to broach as it points to a hypocricy in the religious rights supposedly staunch respect of their perceptions of family values and their immediate support of Palin on her values. Good catch.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:36 am
The fact that anyone would ever go into public office with trash like this and not one but two KOS diaries about Governor Palin’s young teenage daughter being slandered as the so-called “mother” of Trig (because Palin “looked so good” during her pregnancy!) only makes Sarah Palin look like even more of a hero that she would decide to put up with this slime. Alan Colmes, I’ve watched you for years and thought you were a pretty decent sort…until today. You’re a completely reprehensible man of absolutely no character whom I used to respect. I wish I never had to know that you were capable of this. Why not just post directly to KOS – oh, I get it – probably because they’d roll you off the Rec list too soon, and this way you can keep the trash heap alive longer. Congrats, Alan. It must really suck to be you. It certainly sucks to know who you really are.
As for anyone who thinks this is a “valid subject to point to hypocrisy in the religious right”, the point is that Governor Palin and her husband got married and have remained married throughout the past 20 years. If you think the point is something different, then you’ve missed it entirely. The other point is how desperate you people obviously are, how terrified you obviously are, that this woman is going to become an object of respect, admiration and sheer energy for anyone whose ideology does not lean to the far left. We shall soon see how many people do not lean that way – about 60 more days, I should say. I hope Governor Palin’s voters kick your butts.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:59 am
OMGLOLz, you got her Alan.
Did you at least check to see if he was premature?
August 31st, 2008 at 2:11 am
Oh my God, Alan – do you really think something like this would turn off conservatives? It’s like you really believe that conservatives are just like the caricatures you make them out to be. It’s laughable. Keep attacking, keep attacking – you will hear the sound of women pulling the lever for Sarah Palin on Election Day because of the misogyny of the Democratic Party.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:32 am
Alan Please show us your integrety and honesty in FAIR AND BALANCED journalism and publish the birth and marrage dates ( including any abortions that may have occured ) of BHO’s crew. You are capable of honesty and integrety, aren’t you? Or are those just “right wing values” as well? If you can’t do this it will clearly show that you are simply the dead weight on the scale of FAIR AND BALANCED reporting!
Being a believer is not and never was or will be about being perfect, is is about trying your best to make the right desision when you find yourself in a delema. Sarra Palin proved that making the right desision was well within her “pay grade” and for that she deserves prase!
August 31st, 2008 at 3:13 am
True, the Christian right believes that premarital sex is a sin. We also believe that people can be forgiven of their sins if they just repent before the Lord, and that those sins are then wiped away. You don’t have them thrown up in your face for the rest of your life by other Christians. So nice try, but you still just don’t understand us. You’re clinging to that old, twisted stereotype of the judgmental “bible thumper” invented by non-Christians who hate to be reminded that they’re imperfect. The apostle Paul used to persecute Christians, but we don’t boycott his epistles. Peter once denied knowing Christ, but we don’t look down on him today. Maybe when you finally learn what Christians really believe, you’ll then be able to plan your political moves accordingly.
This piece just comes across as catty and desperate, more fitting for a gossip girl’s blog than that of a man on a major news network.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:23 am
OK Suzanne,
she had a Muslim baby,
same God fyi…
but don’t tell anyone…(hanratty was watching).
August 31st, 2008 at 3:39 am
And the world stands in astonishment at Guy’s depth of knolage on the subject matter at hand and his deep theological understanding!!!!!!!
August 31st, 2008 at 3:57 am
I am laughing like a loon that my earlier comment was deleted – you lefties shout so loudly about having “free speech” and yet you suppress it.
If she had her first son just 8 months after she was married – so what? She’s been married for 20 years now, and happily so.
You, however, are doing all you can do to influence the election, and that is supposedly not something a serious news man should be doing.
Right there with Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann, you are, Alan.
Keep it classy. If you can.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:26 am
Jesus Christ Lisa – you can find fault with poor Alan for having an opinion without a word about the repulsive Ayers/Wright/Bitter Hannity, Cavuto and his daily stream of Ex-Hillary-Supporting (my arse) McCain ‘converts’, ‘Terrorist Fist Jab’ Edith Tarbuck, the moronic toe-sucker who now says Iraq invited the US in, the ‘Fuck it, we’ll do it live’ Falafel Kid sexual predator with his 900 part Obama Chronicles…
Sad little fundie.
FUNDAMENTALISM STOPS A THINKING BRAIN
August 31st, 2008 at 6:05 am
Alan–you are a vile piece of trash and a sexist pig for even suggesting such a thing. You’ve been losing credibility for some time now, but this takes the cake. Why don’t you just have your nasty little site here redirect to the Daily Kos or Democratic Underground? You fit right in with those losers who have to attack women because their candidate, obama, is UNELECTABLE and they have nothing else.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:03 am
ALAN COLMES = SEXIST PIG AND DESPERATE CRAZY FAR LEFT LIBERAL
August 31st, 2008 at 7:04 am
Alan, This is a new low for you and sleazy to boot. I can’t imagine how many women who might have been in the same situation you probably angered with this comment. There could be many reasons the baby came earlier, but even if that isn’t the case, at least they didn’t elect to kill him. You should be ashamed of yourself. Even liberals don’t like this kind of sleazy behavior.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:07 am
Ah … From Alan and the party of Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson and John Edwards.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:08 am
Alan–its pigs like you who make a former Hillary Clinton supporter want to vote for the McCain/Palin ticket even more. I can’t wait until November.
In case you didn’t notice, the more Hillary was trashed in the media by the sexist pigs, the more the women came out to support her. The same is happening with Palin.
So, keep it up, cause its just earning the McCain/Palin ticket more votes.
Hannity ought to ask to have you removed from the show. Not only are you a has been, but you are a desperate, crazy, far left wing nut who is not engaging in smear campaigns (did the obama campaign teach you how to do that?) because your candidate is losing!
August 31st, 2008 at 7:09 am
This is why I call the mute button on my remote ‘The Alan Colmes button’.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:19 am
I was born six weeks premature in September of 1948, and my parents were married in January of 1943, shortly before my father shipped out for the South Pacific.
Not everyone born a few weeks early is a bastard like you, Colmes.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:22 am
It is quite evident that Alan Colmes doesn’t understand family values when he sees them. There is an entire class of people in this country who never knew both parents and Colmes supports their lifestyle with his liberal crap while two people, the Palins, who are in fact successful and have a great family with a patriotic son serving in the US Army are more than he can stand. That is why a POS like Colmes will always try to denigrate anyone like the Palins. Geeze, Alan, just think. Mrs. Palin is more accomplished than your media born puppet Obama and she did it without the help of you and your ilk.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:23 am
A 24 year old woman, and 23 year old man, in love, were sexually active in 1988. Seems to me they were a product of the liberal sexual revolution spawned in the 60’s and 70’s by the Democrats.
Alan, thank you for bringing this to our attention. I trust you have forwarded this to the Obama campaign.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:26 am
Dave–its become clear to me that liberal nuts like Alan Colmes have no morals, no values and no shame. They smear women on a regular basis, make sexist comments to anyone who will listen and then call themselves “progressives”. Well, neanderthals like Alan Colmes are the complete opposite of progressive and its time people woke up and realized these people have no class and are quickly becoming the majority in the Democratic Party. They also can’t hold a candle to strong accomplished women like Sarah Palin and it scares the heck out of them. Poor little wimps–intimidated by strong, intelligent women, so their only defense is to try and smear them. Sad, sorry little men is what they are. Their mothers would be mortified.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:30 am
Oh, by the way, pig neanderthal Alan – We’ll be contacting FOX about your job there.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:32 am
Alan Colmes wouldn’t know a “conservative family value” if it hit him in the back of his balding head.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:37 am
May I remind Alan that the “baby” he is referring to is a soldier in the United States Army who is deploying to Iraq on September 11th, 2008?
You should be ashamed of yourself, Alan, not only for smearing a woman, but for smearing a US soldier.
You deserve to be fired from FOX for this.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:42 am
It doesn’t matter when the baby was born, but THAT the baby was born.See we aren’t murderers of the innocent.
The really important thing is that deocrats are wrong 100% of the time.And Gov Palin is no democrat.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:42 am
From my Canadian perspective Mrs. Palin seems to be a very classy lady. You sir, on the other hand, are a mean and vulgar fellow.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:44 am
You are a pig. Pigs love to wallow in their own poop and the mud.
But, you know, through my life, I learned a truth told to me by my father:
WE SUSPECT OF OTHERS WHAT WE KNOW OF OURSELVES.
Radical Democrats–like yourself, accuse people of doing incorrect, corrupt, and degenerative things0–because YOU have done it.
Then, you turn right around and try to tell the world–”It’s O K–I didn’t do anything wrong.”
August 31st, 2008 at 7:48 am
Shame on you, Alan! Leave the children out of the campaign! You are just like all the other leftist “journalists”. You have no morals or limits on your behavior. Your “reporting” smells just as bad as anything on DailyKos or DU.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:51 am
“ATTACK THE WHORE WHO DIDN’T ABORT HER RETARD KID!!”…
Posted by Vince P
Funny, you’re the only one I’ve heard say this. Do you have something against women who have children that are less-than-republican perfect
Oh my FRiend, just check DU and the KOS KIDS. Their sites are filled with vile posts attacking the birth of her 5th child. Looks to me like Sarah Palin, does not view pragnancy as a punishment like Barak does.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:53 am
This is nothing. You should take a peek at the total depravity coming from kos, moveon and the DU. These folk don’t know what hit them and are in panic mode. Let them show their hand, we’ll just save their words to use for a rainy day but right now the sun is shining.
Sarah represents the post feminist generation of women in politics. She appeals to men and women without being either strident or resorting to dealing the gender card. She’s a woman who hunts, fishes, life long member of the NRA, sporty, from small town America. She’s bright, outgoing, willing to work, and has a strength of character you couldn’t miss.
She’s us and the Dimmies know it.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:55 am
Sandy Jameson
Oh the PUMA’s are going to love this article.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:56 am
Alan,
I don’t know what the heck got into you, but you are above these type of comments.
Full disclosure I am a conservative, but I always watch H&C. I have found you in the past to be truely fair and balanced. This article is below your standards my friend.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:03 am
I see you checked out the opposition Martha. The lies about her husband and kids are the worst I’ve ever seen. When “bitter – gun-clinging – small town America” see this stuff they’ll be disgusted. The Dims know they’ve got the MSM in their pocket but the American people are smarter.
MSNBC reporting on Obama was the worst I’ve ever seen in my life. It was an embarrassment – needless to say I didn’t watch it for long and just went back occasionally.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:07 am
Try not to get too vocal in your comments cuz he’ll use them against us on his show and not mention why we’re so outraged. Yes Alan, I now think you’re that devious. Sad.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:12 am
I agree with most posts that this is a non-issue and not an appropriate avenue of attack. ..That being said. I find it funny to see the outrage over this attack from some of the same people involved in the outrageous smears aimed at Obama, like the “he’s a secret Muslim” emails going around that most Republicans gladly forward to everyone they know. I will call it like it is. This is classless, but there has been a lack of class shown by both sides of this election.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:18 am
What a sleazy and sexist thing to say Alan. You don’t know the facts but you are prepared to say anything to make this woman and her family look bad.
You have no idea how many women you have angered with this pathetic attempt to demean them.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:21 am
JO CHGO up above speaks the truth.
If Obama was sooooo Mr Clean he had plenty of oppurtunities right in his own community to work against corruption in politics…. starting with his mentor, Senate President Emil Jones, and their allies, like the Cook County Board President Stroger and all kinds of other things.
Instead Barack was in the thick of it.. and letting folks like Jones pave a path for Obama to ascend to greater levels of office.
The clear fact is that there is no record of him putting into concrete action any of the principles he claims to stand for.
There are two political machines in Chicago / Cook County…. there’s the Daley Machine for City Govt… there’s the South Side black Machine for the County Govt which also has tenticles into the Illinois General Assembly/Senate.
Obama did nothing.
So two of his platitudes..
Anti-corruption/Ethics
and
Community Unity (instead of belonging to a racist church, he could have demostrated his purported desire to work against hatred by confronting the church on its poison.. but of course he didnt.. he believes in it)
he had unignorable oppurtunties to put those to work and show some sort of record… but there’s nothing… because those are just words Axelrod Rasputin writes for his teleprompter.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:24 am
Posted by martha ware
August 31st, 2008 at 7:53 am
Martha: I was paraphrasing the sort of argument the deranged Left was using.. and criticizing it.
That statement doesnt reflect my opinion.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:29 am
“TV’s Alan Colmes claims that Palin didn’t practice proper prenatal care before she had the baby with Down’s Syndrome, blaming the Mother for her disabled child.”
Too bad your own video feed with this clip has crashed.
Methinks your own mother did not practice proper prenatal care Alan.
How low can a person go. You should be fired from FOX for such hateful comments.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:38 am
Alan,
Newsbusters has saved your comments that Sarah Palin’s lack of prenatal care may have lead to her childs birth defect. Although you attempted to clean up what you said, it has been saved for all to see.
BTW…Alan I teach 7th grade science. Downs is caused by a chromosomal defect.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:45 am
FOX needs to fire Alan Colmes. He has no journalistic integrity and it is time FOX took the trash out.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:58 am
Via my feed reader, I was able to save the comments made to the Pre-natal post but not the actual article text
Click on my name for the link
August 31st, 2008 at 8:58 am
Martha: now do you understand what i was trying to say earlier? some people have no limit to what they’ll say in order to attack Palin.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:00 am
Sean, I never thought he was a Muslim as I’ve always known he’s a Communist which means they’re allies. BTW, The Repubs calling him a Muslim was/is not unreasonable considering his background and certainly not comparable to this cheap shot. He’s running for president of the USA and it’s important we discover who he really is and the people still don’t know due to the MSM who are in his tank.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:09 am
Hey Alan- you vile sexist pig–was this your audition to be an obama campaign spokesperson?
If not, how much are they paying you to do this?
August 31st, 2008 at 9:15 am
Alan, I would have expected, given your intellect, you would have found criticizm
more relevant to the current debate in the country, whether we want our lives, our communities, our schools, our nation, controlled by a strong central government run by re-distribution “aperakchics”(pretty much where we’re heading now). Or if we will continue to aspire to the ideals which founded our country. I believe that Gov. Palin just might be the one that we have been waiting for, despite Obama’s claims to the contrary. In fact, the only thing that disappoinys me about Sara Palin, is that she is on the wrong end of the ticket. I’m pretty sure that I’m not the only one who finds her rugged individualism a breath of fresh, and much needed air.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:19 am
Hey Alan, stick to your principles – please retroactively take advantage of Roe V. Wade.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:29 am
Alan,
If only they had been democrats. They could have separated and gone their “chosen” ways and she could have raised their little bastard alone. They will just never know what they missed.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:33 am
From a true biblical perspective, sexual intercourse is the act of marriage. The formal ceremony of marriage did not exist until the 4th or 5th century CE.
If they had premarital sex, so what…they did the honorable thing. No fundamentalist would see it differently. In fact they will resent the snide manner in which you and the Democratic Party is trying to make an issue of it.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:35 am
If only Sarah had been taught abstinence only sex ed, I’m sure she would have been a virgin on her wedding day.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:35 am
OK since you have SHUT DOWN our access to comment on your PALIN STUPIDITY I’m sending it in here YOU NEED TO BE FIRED YOU ARE FINISHED. A third grader knows Downs is genetic happens at the ‘TIME OF CONCEPTION’ the same time that life begins, OOPS you don’t believe that either. Poor Man!!!
August 31st, 2008 at 9:46 am
You liberals are the ones supporting single mothers (in other words with children and not married) Sarah and Todd were married. To a liberal, hypocrisy is their byword.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:54 am
My first son, now a healthy 5′11″, 180 lb. lacrosse playing high school sophomore, was born at 30 weeks gestation – 32 weeks after my marriage. Its really quite telling to see where your mind leaps to, Alan. The bitterness that you expose must affect every facet of your life. Try to rise above it, man.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:00 am
I’m sure Media Matters and Think Progress will send out Action Alerts about this blantantly sexist attack, and Olbermann will make Alan Worst Person in the World and read the Media Matters webpage about it from the teleprompter with the glory hole he shares with Obama.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:00 am
Anne,
it is not unreasonable to ask if he is Muslim… Once. But, this email thing is going around over and over. I have gotten it 3 times from different conservative friends. Even after it is disproven, they continue to circulate it. BTW it is also xenophobic to imply that all Muslims are terrorists, but that is for another thread. I called Alen’s comment out of bounds as well. My point is that this election is quickly degenerating into namecalling. Also, there have been some shots on far-right blogs mocking Joe Biden’s wife and daughter who died in a car crash. This crap is going both ways this year and that is my point.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:08 am
Alan is trying to out MoDo Maureen Dowd in her nyt column about Sarah Palin.
Alan, you go girl!
But both of you need to be careful with you catty tongues.
Sarah Palin could take on both of you at once in a cat-fight and kick both your asses. Twits.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:09 am
You guys on the left need to google the article, “Forty years after the death of a party.” Hopefully it will open some eye. I lived through this and never voted for a democrat again even though I grew up as a democrat. My dad ran as a democrat for a seat on the AZ state legislature. After the democrats nominated the communist George McGovern, they never voted democrat again.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:10 am
Crusty old conservative, curmudgeon, Jack Cafferty’s e-mailers said it better than I could have:
Mitch in Michigan writes:
“I think McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin as V.P. very similar to Bush’s nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court. It shows how much a McCain presidency would be just like the Bush presidency, with the selection of totally unqualified individuals for high government posts. We’ve seen the disastrous results of such picks by Bush. We can not let McCain continue this saga.”
Christine writes:
“I am a true-Bill-Hillary — a true-blue Hillary supporter, but I am sure — I’m sure Hillary did not mean to put 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling, so that a pro-life, pro- gun, homeschooling nobody from the frozen tundra of Alaska could slide in.”
Doug writes: “Had I known that being a hockey mom under 45 and having virtually no political experience was the desired V.P. running mate for McCain, I would have asked my wife to throw her hat into the ring. McCain has just handed the presidency to Barack Obama.”
Meagan writes: “Cafferty, for once, and probably the only time, I actually agree with you, better than I could have said it.”
August 31st, 2008 at 10:22 am
Judging from the comments here, I think the poor twit Alan has finally jumped the shark.
You are finished, you neanderthal.
Expect FOX to be bombarded with calls for you to be fired.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:23 am
I am so ashamed of the democratic party and its supporters throughout this whole campaign season. They have disenfranchised their base and they have become thugs. The extreme left is just as dangerous as the extreme right. I don’t have a party any more. Alan, you have gone to new lows with this one. I have lost all respect to you. Even if this is true, she got married and she had the child. Would it have been better if she aborted that child? The child who has grwon up and is going to be fighting in Iraq in less than a month? Shame on you Alan. You have totally lost all of my respect. Why don’t you condem BO for his belief in letting a child die after a botch abortion. I am pro-choice but I am not pro-murder.
This Hillary Clinton Dem is voting for McCain/Palin and I am more comfortable with my choice every day. Thugery has taken over the Democratic party.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:27 am
Because you have taken down the medically wrong posting on the effects of downs sindrome and and a water bag breaking i will post this reaction to it here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_efw7987uZA
i know this is in german but liberals are supposed to be eurocentric so you should understand it
you are the fox news TWIT
August 31st, 2008 at 10:37 am
ALAN I WAS BORN BEFORE 8 MONTHS being that i was the second child it wasn’t because two engaged people got a little frisky
you are reaching for nothing you twit you must be real scared of defeat in nov.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_efw7987uZA
this is almost as good as the donks crying about her experiece level since she is only running for VPOTUS and you can learn on the job for that. obama experiece is only a couple of years as freshman sen. and most of that was spent running for POTUS.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:48 am
Alan:
You have finally proven that you are the scumsucking, vile piece of Liberal trash that Hannity has been too blind to see.
I hope that you pathetic radio show gives you a good enough living, because the push is now on to get you “scrubbed” from FOX – like you will probably scrub this post from your site, and you scrubbed the slime about the birth of Palin’s last baby.
I find it sooo amusing that the Lib who was supposed to be the most reasonable of the bunch – per Hannity’s view – is now turning out to be one of the really vile ones. Keep up the good work, you bug.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:54 am
This reaks of sexism, since I can’t ever recall seeing a male candidate’s wedding date/first child’s birthdate being made an issue.
Also, this doesn’t just involve “a time period”, this is about an innocent human being, a soldier, her son. Would it be considered fair and equal if the right begins digging thru Obama’s children’s backgrounds too? Nah, the media would go nuts and say to leave the kids alone. Alan Combs has sunk to a new low!
August 31st, 2008 at 10:55 am
WorkingMommy,
The same can be said from the other side:
I am so ashamed of the REPUBLICAN PARTY and its supporters throughout this whole campaign season. They have disenfranchised the VAST MIDDLE OF THE NATION and they have become thugs. The EXTREME RIGHT , AS EPITOMIZED BY McCAIN/ PALIN, is just as dangerous as the extreme LEFT. I’M SO GLAD THAT I have a partyTHAT IS BETTER THAN EVER!. Alan, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, REFUTING MINDLESS GOP TALKING POINTS! I have lost all respect FOR THE THEM. WHAT A CYNICAL CHOICE TO ASSUME THAT WOMAN WILL MINDLESS VOTE FOR ANY WOMAN EVEN WHEN THEY OPPOSE HER VALUES. Shame on you JOHN McCAIN! You have totally lost all of my respect. Why don’t you condem YOUR SURROGATES FOR LYING ABOUT OBAMA’S LEGISLATION? This Hillary Clinton Dem is voting OBAMA/BIDEN and I am HAPPIER with my choice every day. Thugery has taken over theREPUBLICAN PARTY LONG AGO.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:02 am
This is pathetic Alan. I usually side with you, but this garbage really stinks. You should take this down as it makes you look very unstable.
Since when is it a crime to have sex before marriage? This is the 21st century and you of all people should start living in it.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:04 am
oldlefty….I am a Hillary supporter. Go see how many of us are at http://www.hillaryclinton.net that support McCain/Palin. There are over 10k of us. Good luck with screaming at Alan LOL
August 31st, 2008 at 11:08 am
[...] apparently Colmes has no problem with this entry he put up on Friday afternoon about the circumstances surrounding Todd and Sarah Palin’s [...]
August 31st, 2008 at 11:31 am
Old Lefty you prove my point exactly. By the way I’m not mindless I have made my decision on a lot of things by the way I was voting for McCain BEFORE he named his VP choice how sexist of you to say that is reason I am voting against the party of my family. You see Old Lefty people like you have driven me and millions of others away from the Democratic party. I need to vote for my country. Country over Party. I will be voting Republican for the first time of my life. It was not an easy decision but it is the only one. It is easy for you to bash the opposite party. You don’t get it at all I am disappointed in MY party. Or at least the party I use to be a part of. Shame on you too for your sexist comments.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:41 am
I used to have respect for Alan Colmes.
Since the announcement of Sarah Palin as the GOP VP choice, Alan Colmes has gone off the deep end in personal attacks. Nothing else. First, he allowed a thread on this website questioning her pre-natal care. He removed that thread, after exposing it to the internet, where it *will* remain. Nothing is ever truly deleted from cyberspace. This, too.
Seeing how much the liberals are personally attacking Palin makes me know she was the correct choice.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:46 am
HA HA HA you freaks.Keep on trash talking.Please do.Yes Alan, help us get McCain in.That’s what you are doing now.Thank you, Thank you Thank you…
August 31st, 2008 at 11:50 am
It’s too bad Alan’s parents didn’t use a condom…
August 31st, 2008 at 11:54 am
You are truly a classless POS, Alan. You owe the Palins a public apology, you slimy worm. Apparently you liberals are so desperate that this is all that you can do.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:55 am
Well, its 12 noon on Sunday 8/31 and this blog is STILL HIDING since they clearly don’t want to or care what the public has to say, Hannity if you don’t FIRE him you show will suffer, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH OF HIS UNEDUCATED MOUTH
August 31st, 2008 at 12:04 pm
[...] try to suggest she is neglecting her children. But support her? No, Honor her? No again. They will demean her, dismiss her, insult her, and demonize her, and then still seek to say they support strong [...]
August 31st, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Are you serious really? This and your last comment about her not taking care of her self during her pregnancy. Down Syndrome is caused by genetics. Stay Classy Alan.
This is gossip are you trying out for TMZ or the National Enquirer? Seems their coverage is higher standard then Cable News. You should put up a BIG APOLOGY in all Caps, to Sarah Palin and her family. I have held you in a higher opinion then this, so unless you have someone ghost writing your blog, I am reacessing, in which case you need to do some quality control.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:08 pm
I am a Hillary Clinton Supporter. The one thing that I have hated about this entire election process is people like you who cannot find anything meaningful to discuss than the very private issues of a woman’s life. This is none of your business. Nor, is it anyone else’s business. I have had enough of chauvinsim this year. Comments like yours just drive women closer to voting for Palin. So, keep up the good work!!!!
August 31st, 2008 at 12:09 pm
There’s a lot of reasons Alan is lucky to be even a second banana. This one goes to the top of the list.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:11 pm
You are a classless POS!!!!!
August 31st, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Getting you fired from Fox and any station that is within listening distance of where I live is going to be a joy.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Alan,
I hope the Palin family sues you for defamation and Fox News throws you off of the show. Shame on you. You’ve shown the true colors of the liberal. Not compassionate but a rabid foaming at the mouth eugenicist who does not believe that every child deserves life. You do not have to be a conservative christian to believe this. Buddhist, hindu’s and other religions believe in the sanctity of life.
I will never watch your show again.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Alan, the post you had up on here about Palin giving birth to a special needs child being due to birth stress because of her job as Gov., has strangely disappeared down the memory hole without so much as an explanation or an apology.
Evidently you and your liberal cohorts believe you’ll win the vote of strong succesful women who choose to have a child past the age of 35, I implore you keep trying, your doing a bang up job so far.
Perhaps you should change your last name to “Colon”, it suits you much better.
Stay classy Alan, stay classy.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Any of you Demoncrats care to defend Don Fowler or Michael Moore, for their destugusting comments about Gustav being “God is on our side”. These two POSs are happy that many people are going to lose their homes or lives just to interupt the RNC. Go ahead and try to defend these two turds.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Keep pouring the holy water on the demons JOHN MCCAIN!! Hear them scream.And they scream in all langs. even from CANADA…
August 31st, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Alan-
You are classsier than this. Don’t sink to the level of some of the other LWradicals- I used to like you, but -why don’t I pick up the Enquirer instead of listening to you?
Oh, that’s right- then I have to read about John Edwards. Good guy.
And , by the way, pre-natal care has NOTHING to do with Downs. The child , from the moment of conception, has Down’s. Did you take biology in High School?
Thank Goodness you took that crap off your site!
Get back to issues, Alan. Don’t act like a school yard bully.
Your comments about her marriage and questioning her “fault: that the child has Down’s is REVOLTING.
Guess you are really trying to swing votes McCain’s way!
Grossed out in PA ( clinging to my guns and religion, of course)
August 31st, 2008 at 12:20 pm
PS: I have noticed most idiots like Alan, their hairline starts in the middle of their heads.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Alan, you should lay off Sarah because you are just pissing off the woman to no end. It hurts to know you’re going to lose – again – doesn’t it? Is that why you are sooooo nasty. Just go back to letting Sean knock you around which is what you do best.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:21 pm
This says it all about what a POS Alan Colmes is:
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/08/31/you-stay-classy-alan-colmes.php
August 31st, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Alan, I also forgot to say this: I thought that liberals all respected women. The vitriolic statement coming from you and the other liberals about Sarah Palin is downright shocking. Now the nasty, vile people who swim in the Kos sewer are pushing the outrageous rumor that it’s really her daughter’s baby. I hope you don’t go there, Alan. Hopefully you have more sense than that. I will say one thing for you though Alan: you can really take a punch.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:28 pm
I used to think you were a fairly decent person up to this point. Why don’t you go to MSNBC and join your other asshole socialist fucksticks and then burn in hell for eternity along with the rest of your kind?
August 31st, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Alan, my best advice to you is to apologize like a man. Say you were wrong and maybe a third of the people will forgive you.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:35 pm
OMG
You are an idiot. I thought you just played one on TV.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:40 pm
I not sure what all the Christan bashing is about.
People who set high ideals and fail are not nessicarilly hippocrites
They just failed to live up to their ideals.
I sure that all the ones who are bashing her have very HIGH ideals and have never failed to live up to them.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Alan – What an ass you have made of yourself with this comment. I thought you were bigger than that. It is 2008 man, not 1961. Get a grip and lose the self-rightous attitude.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Low class, Alan. Very low class. Apologize.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Hey, Alan — got any proof that she was pregnant, or just engaging in a little bit of baseless speculation?
And if she was, how is it relevant? After all, the only thing you would have proved is consensual sex between two consenting adults. Wasn’t that your argument with Bill Clinton?
August 31st, 2008 at 12:44 pm
So what?
August 31st, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Hay Alan, what happened to your smear about her last pregnancy? It’s a big buzz on the blogs. Why did you take it down?
August 31st, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Alan, let me guess – do you believe that the people in the movie “Footloose” are real?
August 31st, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Mr. Colmes, until now you have been one of the liberals that I could respect while totally disagreeing with your far-left point of view. You give as good as you take. This post and the other one that is no longer available have crossed the line. I hope you sleep well tonight.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:54 pm
If this were true and I don’t believe it for a moment at least they could get married unlike Edwards, Jackson and a few thousand well know democrats. You liberals should tread softly here you have little room on the moral walkway.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Surprise surprise classless lefties–my eldest child was born under almost the same exact circumstances as faced by Gov. Palin. At 8 months (5 weeks early) I developed what was called a “high leak” in my amniotic fluid. The fluid was leaking out very slowly. The doctor told me to wait–as the baby was premature, he wanted to buy time for the child to allow his lungs to mature. THAT was the big concern–to quote my doctor, “we can’t do much about the immaturity of his lungs, but an infection we can treat.” I was to go to the hospital if I developed a fever, or if I went into labor. Otherwise, I would be more comfortable at home. THREE DAYS later, my son was born–lungs OK, tiny tiny little baby. And the happiest part–my husband of 29 years and I are his proud parents as he has enlisted as a JAG attorney and is getting married soon to the sweetest Christian gal!! So, Mr. Colmes, you are indeed a fool who ought to leave decisions about childbirth where they belong–between the woman and her doctor.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Alan you are biggest piece of trash on TV. If you weren’t such a good punching bag for Hannity you would be a homeless guy begging to give blows jobs for change.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Awww, what’s the matter, Al? Can’t attack Mrs. Palin’s impeccable and credible credentials, so you have to make it personal? Afraid that your racist, Marxist Messiah, the Obamination, just might not have what it takes to win?
Should we compare experience? No? Why? Oh, right – Obama loses. How about credibility? No? Why? Oh, right – Obama loses. Anything else that’s relevant you’d like to compare between the two? No? Why? Oh, right – OBAMA LOSES.
Alan, you’re a disgrace. Get off the air, get off the ‘net, and get a clue.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:03 pm
This is not a valid argument. It presupposes that a fallible life is indicative of hypocrisy. First, fallibility has not even been established. And second, even if it were, that of itself does not suffice in determining hypocrisy. Hypocrisy stems from the blatantly arrogant and flippant “do as I say, not as I do” mentality. Hypocrisy does not stem from momentary lapses, as one struggles to aspire to one’s beliefs throughout life. It would seem that, even if they had exercised poor judgement, the subsequent choices of Mrs. Palin and her husband held true to the principles they aspired to value. Had they aborted the child, then we could cry foul.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:10 pm
“What you seem not to understand is that most of us on the left don’t give two tosses about where and when grown-ups touch genitals with other adults – it is holier-than-thou hypocracy we are so allergic to.”
Baloney. You’re allergic to “holier than thou” hypocracy only when the hypocrite is a Republican. When the hypocrite is a Dem, its a different story. I can point to thousands upon thousands of examples of leftist/democrat politicians doing hypocritical thing, and I can point to their leftist supporters keeping silent and turning a blind eye, to such acts of hypocrisy. If they do raise the issue of the hypocritical act one of theirs committed, its only to circle the wagons around their hypocritical politician and defend his actions.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Shame on you, Mr. Colmes.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:21 pm
I have long said that Alan Colmes was an example of what makes this country great. Any average Joe can make a big name for himself.
Colmes has become a successful TV and radio host. This despite the fact that he has very little talent, has not come up with an original thought in years, and reads strictly from the Democratic party’s talking points. What has made him successful is that he has no sense of shame. He is never embarassed about all the times he makes an ass of himself. That’s what got him here, and that’s what keeps him going.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Even if true, it doesn’t hurt her story one bit. In days past, and in a better America, decent, honorable, young couples, who were in love, who really didn’t think they were financially ready, or mature enough, or hoping to go to college, or whatever, got married as soon as they became aware the woman was pregnant. Most of us only have to look around our own families, relatives or friends. Most have developed into enduring, successful marriages. Only in the context of the liberal perspective which holds that if a baby might become an inconvenience.. “KILL IT” and fails to recognize a the existence of loving, forgiving God, could getting married less than 9 months prior to the birth of a child be considered a serious personal failure. Get a life Alan.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:29 pm
The trouble with Alan Colmes is that he was born with CLOWN syndrome. What a schmuck!!!!
August 31st, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Wow, very classy, Alan. I thought you hit a low in hypocrisy with your attack on her prenatal care. (Why would that concern you? You wouldn’t have blinked if she had had an abortion at that point. It’s not like that was a human being that was inside her, right?)
Like most libs you either deliberately misstate ‘conservative family values’ as religious fundamentalist values in a pathetic (and, even for you, cheap) attempt to try to score political points. Conservatives try to live up to certain standards of personal conduct, but recognize that humans are flawed and will often fail to do so. If your insinuations are accurate, the Palins showed their ‘family values’ by getting married. Were she on your side of the spectrum, she would have shown up on the Maury show having 3 or 4 guys DNA tested to find out which was the baby-daddy.
Maybe it’s time to start a new blog topic. Perhaps another staunch defense of John Edwards? Try this – “We shouldn’t talk about it because his infidelity wasn’t discovered until AFTER he dropped out of the race!” Or how about “We have no right to criticize Edwards because we never claim to have moral standards in the first place!”
August 31st, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Colmes, were your Momma and Dady goofy looking also. Musta have been as they passed the goofy loking gene on to you.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Wow…is this all you guys can get her on? I would love to have a look in Biden’s closet.
Cheap, Cheap, Cheap.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:40 pm
To oldlefty:
You said “The EXTREME RIGHT … is just as dangerous as the extreme LEFT”.
The last time I heard something like that was from Rosie O’Donnell, when she said fundamentalist Christians were just as danterous as fundamentalist Muslims. However, I have yet to read about fundamentalist Christians committing mass murder, engaging in suicide bombing attacks, taking captives and raping/beating/torturing/castrating/decapitating them. Ms. O’Donnell refused to give examples of her claim of Muslim/Christianity equivalency. I would like to see you come up with a set of examples of the dangers posed by both left and right, just to see how your mind works (my guess is that it doesn’t, at least not well, especially not without the meds).
August 31st, 2008 at 1:42 pm
So let’s see if I get this right: because Republicans espouse family values, try to hold THEMSELVES to a higher moral standard, and believe there is good which is derived (personally and as a Nation)with striving for higher standards, then they are to be judged as Saints. Any shortcoming is hypocritical, by definition. On the other hand, Democrats, unable to set a standard, let alone strive for any moral conduct beyond that of a pig, ought to be held to no standard, but fully free to throw stones with impunity at anyone falling short of Sainthood, should that person be a Republican. Wow. Using this logic, we ought to set aside any concept of morality, adopt the lowest possible standard which human nature might tolerate and still exist, ( porking in the streets? Why not?), and somehow “hope” for the best? Any idea what kind of society we’d be living in? Democrats ought to wake up every day and thank Republicans for the mainteance of standards in our society, for much as they rail against this in public, privately they want all the benefits of morality and law and order. They want it both ways, and judging from the “men” in their ranks, take it just so. Cheer up dems. Gustav, another evil Republican creation, is about to strike N.O. This should be cause for “good cheer”, and with any luck, there will be pain and suffering a plenty, assuring your hero Michael (oink oink) Moore, that there is a God. ( Not enough to asssure Olberman though. He needs more definitive action, like a slew of Downs’ Syndrome children born to Republican mothers. Even then, his conversion would be short lived.)
August 31st, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Awful lame, Alan.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:46 pm
what a disgusting piece of garbage you are.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Hey Allan, unlike many early conceptions before marriage, they chose to complete the term, raise, nurture and instill American Values into all their children… unlike some other people (BHO) to mention one who would choose to end life after conception
August 31st, 2008 at 1:49 pm
While I know many, many Hillary supporters, 90% of them are supporting Obama, a few are voting for Nader, some are not voting, and NONE are voting for McCain, any more than a vegetarian would vote for a candidate who comes from the beef industry.
In my city, there are now Obama yard signs where there used to be Hillary signs, just as in 04, there were Kerry signs where there were once Dean signs.
I’m sorry that the so called Hillary supporters are so bitter that they are so willing to diminish everything she stands for by voting for a man whose values are antithetical to hers, but who had no problem laughing at her being called a “bitch”, and who made the hideous joke about Hillary and Chelsea.
That alone shows you who they are!
I see no evidence that those who claim be be Hillary supporters for McCain are not REALLY GOP operatives.
Obama MAY lose in 08, but it won’t be because voters who TRULY believed in Hillary’s values rejected the SAME values when espoused by Obama,….it will be because the lowest common denominator was played by cynical Republican strategists.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:49 pm
You’re absolutely right, Alan. They didn’t use condoms! How scandalous! Todd Palin should’ve done what John Edwards and Ted Kennedy did: pay her off and let her raise the little brat herself with the help of some food stamps (seeing as Todd didn’t have a family fortune or a PAC fund to dip into). As for her, shame on her for not exercising her woman’s right to choose!
August 31st, 2008 at 1:50 pm
As a traditional, conservative, evangelist who grew up (and still lives) in a small town in Georgia I would imagine that I am the person you’re trying to get this message out to in a hope that I am so bigoted that it will make me not vote for Sarah. News flash: They got (and have stayed) married. In the South this nulls the pre-marry sex (or baby) issue. It’s the 21st Century you hateful, bigoted Democrats. ;) If you think Southern Christians stone people for having babies before getting married than you are even sillier than I realized, but this type of Democrat tactic IS seen by Southerners as dishonorable. One thing we still have is a sense of propriety and honor. This kind of stuff just makes us less likely to ever vote Dem and I encourage you to keep it up.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:58 pm
By the way Alan I saw you walking in Manhattan recently. I now have a full understanding of why you are so bitter and miserable. Your school years must have been very, very sad and explain why you hate society as it exists. Getting slammed into those lockers must have hurt, but sooner or later you must let go, and forgive. Lashing out at the successful and the good amongst us, while tempting, will not change the past. as Bill Clinton said, “it is time to forget the past, and MOVE ON”.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:00 pm
I feel sorry for you, that you are filled so full of hate.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Alan…Why don’t you take a minute and address BHO’s birth records. After that you can investigate Larry Sinclair’s claim to fame regarding BHO, That should keep you busy for awhile.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Comes:
You really are as dumb as to look and act.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Articles like these are the reason Alan is little more than a potted plant on Hannitys Show.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Suntan – hard to tell if you are a lefty troll or just another racist living in your mother’s basement. I find it suspicious that your poll claims recycle the far-left’s fantasies about Florida and Ohio. If hold the views you profess here do you not feel honor-bound to express them to those political causes to which you have attached yourself? Obviously not, both political parties would treat you as poison. And poison is all you seem to offer here. I suggest we just ignore him here as he obviously lacks the sincerity and candidness both parties expect in political debates.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:09 pm
1. To oldlefty:
You said “The EXTREME RIGHT … is just as dangerous as the extreme LEFT”.
The last time I heard something like that was from Rosie O’Donnell, when she said fundamentalist Christians were just as danterous as fundamentalist Muslims. However, I have yet to read about fundamentalist Christians committing mass murder, engaging in suicide bombing attacks, taking captives and raping/beating/torturing/castrating/decapitating them
Posted by Nick in Virginia
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Religious fundamentalists (Christian and Muslim) , ARE right wingers!
The American right has ALWAYS supported right wing radical Islam, from support of the Muslim Brotherhood over Nasser, to the Mujahideen in Afganistan, to the Saudi royal family, to arming the right wing clergy of Iran to raise money to arm the right wing death squads in Nicaragua.
No. You just lie about war, drop bombs ( including cluster bombs), on people , call it “Shock and Awe”, call civilian causalities “collateral damage”, and torture in abu Ghraib and prosecute the order takers instead of the order givers; the ‘Reverse Nuremberg Trials’, and engage in war profiteering.
Spare me!
August 31st, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Alan, I always knew you were scum, but this proves it. Have you ever heard of premature infants? They do happen legitimately (pun deliberate).
If this is all the Dems. can throw at Sarah Palin, then you’re really pathetic. What’s next?
What all of you numbskulls don’t get is that “choice” means a great deal more than the right to choose abortion. It also means the right to choose to carry a baby to team, deliver it, love it and raise it in a loving family.
Alan, you are a very sick man………….
August 31st, 2008 at 2:10 pm
It amazes me that any human being (even Alan) could stoop to such a low. To say tacky things about the Palin baby is beneath even a POS like you. You not only hurt the Palin but you hurt every proud & loving parent out here.
I usually leave the room when you start to ooze your crap over the TV because for some reason you make my skin crawl. Where is your contempt for all of the celebrties that have children and are not married, the ones who have their private parts shown all over the media, the druggies, the ones that have numerous public affairs, the ones who get away with murder, rape, spousal abuse, DWI’s and the pathetic “I Am A Celebrity” so I am smarter than you & you have to believe what I say crowd?
You and your cronies need to get in touch with the real America that loves Family, children, friends, out door activities (such as hunting, fishing, racing), the ones that are proud of our military, our country, our flag and are very thankful that we can say all of this in English.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Nobody disrespects HER choice, only that she disrespects the choice of others.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Alan,
As I coment frequently to Fox executives, you simply suck. Hopefully this latest excursion of yours into low-life commentary (ref. pre-natal care, and the Palin wedding date vs. birth) will influence Fox to finally fire your miserable ass.
You prove yourself to be a wretched twisted ignorant and bone deep bigot, in some sense you are to be an object of pity. You are reminiscent of the Golem character in Lord of the Rings and in Jewish folklore, both in appearance and in being bereft of a soul.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:31 pm
To any nitwit making an issue of “On April 20, 1989 – less than eight months after they eloped – their first son, Track, was born.”
She was 25 yrs old. You libs really are pathetic. Conservatives don’t deny that they are imperfect, being human. But, they do at least have moral standards they aspire to. As opposed to the liberals who mock others unlike them for falling short. While would never dare to mock one of their own kind for falling short. In fact, would attack (even falsely) someone else in the typical greivance parade usually thrown, as being to blame.
While almost bragging about not professing any morals/standards to be held accountable to – therefore, should not held to standards not proclaimed as a mantle. Taking responsibility is certainly not on your list of standards either.
And this is some of the telling differences between many conservatives and liberals, sad as that is.
You Democrats ended up in a sort of cat fight ending with rips and tears from slashing charges between racism charges to sexism charges. Now you bring it into the general. What a disgrace!
August 31st, 2008 at 2:32 pm
What the Palins did twenty years ago, what transpired before they have managed to have a fifth child, and how they choose to take care of that child is none of your God damn business. You’re s liberal buffon of the highest order, and I for one can’t wait for her to appear on your show and stuff your dumb ass thoughts right up your ass. On the other hand, I’d enjoy even more if she brougth her husband and see if you have the balls to ask about that in front of him.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:39 pm
I never cease to be amazed at how impotent Alan Colmes is. He cannot argue by virtue of fact, logic, or principle. No, he must resort to rumor, irrelevant nonsense, and just shear mean bullshit. Whether or not their first child was conceived out of wedlock is (a) complete speculation; (b) no one’s business; (c) not a moral issue; and (d) an odd thing for Alan Colmes to be concerned about. Hey Alan, is it your hobby to pry into the sex lives of other people? Is this because the only way you can get laid is to pay large amounts of money for it?
August 31st, 2008 at 2:43 pm
No one should be surprised by what Alan and others do. This how the Left treats all those its considers to be apostates.
If you’re a woman, gay, black, latin, et al, you are in a protected class. Immune from anyone dare being critical of you…. UNLESS someone from those groups decides not to be a Leftist… in that case.. the gloves are off and the most nasty and ruthless things will be said about them by the tolerant caring sensitive compassionate open-minded Leftists, especially in terms of that person’s womanliness, gayness, blackness, lawnmowingability, etc..
August 31st, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Alan, all I can say is that I am greatly disappointed in you. While I often don’t agree with what you say, I have always had the utmost respect for you. Obviously, that respect was misplaced.
As for the rest of the liberal posters on here either posting hate speech or pretending to be others posting same, you are a disgrace to humanity.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:46 pm
You Democrats ended up in a sort of cat fight ending with rips and tears from slashing charges between racism charges to sexism charges. Now you bring it into the general. What a disgrace!
Posted by right4us
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Nobody says this except right wingers.
Democrats are very uplifted.
The main problem with Palin is this:
Between ALL those in McCain’s circle: the other candidates, congress people who he argees with, present and former administration people…..
Is he saying that over all of these long time collegues, THIS young woman with NO experience outside of Alaska,, is the SECOND MOST QUALIFIED person in ALL of the entire United states of America to be the president??
August 31st, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Alan, you are a despicable, vile, ignorant human being.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:04 pm
“Alan, you are a despicable, vile, ignorant human being.”
……………………………
That’s the way I ALWAYS felt when I looked at right wing sites.
I never looked back.
If you feel that way about Alan, why go to his site?
August 31st, 2008 at 3:09 pm
If FOX has any class at all, you’ll be unemployed next week and deservedly so!
August 31st, 2008 at 3:09 pm
So she was married a month after she got pregnant?
Did she even KNOW she was pregnant at that point? I mean, it was unlikely she had missed a period yet.
I’ve never heard Palin say she was opposed to premarital sex and you cannot “guess” her views based on others.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Oldlefty – you can say that, but, it defies there is a black community bad taste to the Clinton supporters from the racism issue – as well as, the many Hillary supporters, including Geraldine F. and others with a bad taste in their mouth from the sexism issue – still lurking below the surface.
And it will be interesting to see how the attacks on Gov. Palin play out in relation to her gender. The Dems have to control themselves from going overboard (and that is usually too much to ask).
However, it is idiotic to attack her qualifications – as you will have to admit Obama’s. If you disqualify her (for a VP no less) – you disqualify Obama from Pres. – not so smart.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Maybe she was liberal at age 24. Maybe Track was premature. I’m not sure how anyone can think this is even an issue.
I love to hear Dems say that they are the party of amorality so they don’t have to hold themselves to any standard. It makes me laugh probably in the same way Republican transgressions make Dems laugh.
Any Edwards, Spitzer, Newsom, Kilpatrick, Clinton, ‘Cold Cash’ Jefferson, ‘Bribes’ Hastings supporters out there?
August 31st, 2008 at 3:11 pm
You just cannot stand it that the Palins are a beautiful, hard-working, loving, happy family, can you?
August 31st, 2008 at 3:12 pm
So, if she was pregnant, she followed her “pro-life” belief and decided to marry and keep the child.
What does this prove, beyond the fact that, as with her most recent child, she has maintained her convictions.
At least she is not Nancy Pelosi, who claims to be a “practicing Catholic” but then does not believe the teachings of her own church!
August 31st, 2008 at 3:13 pm
OLDLEFTY, Like many of the writers, this was my first visit to this site and that was just to register my disgust with this jerk. It’s also going to be my last because this one visit is all he’s worth. Trust me his website is not an address I’m saving.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Mr. Suntan, your verbal diarrhea says a lot about you as a person and lack of historical knowledge of anything. You must be a product of our government schools. Scary.
Mr. Colmes, look for a new job please, you obviously have lost any objectivity needed for a job in journalism. I’m afraid you have not only jumped the shark but you have drunk the kool-aid.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:17 pm
At least she didn’t have it KILLED…
August 31st, 2008 at 3:18 pm
I watch H&C every day; all of it. Never cared for Colmes, but then he is a liberal. Heard about his post(s) on Palin and came here for the first time.
What was he thinking? Then the miserable bastard deletes his feces with a “technical problems” lie. Don’t know if I can continue to watch H&C now that I know what a scumbag he is.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:29 pm
[...] apparently Colmes has no problem with this entry he put up on Friday afternoon about the circumstances surrounding Todd and Sarah Palin’s [...]
August 31st, 2008 at 3:31 pm
I’m going out now, but the criticism of ALAN from the RIGHT WING, is astounding!
From Limbaugh’ “Barack the Magic Negro, and making fun of Parkinson’s victims, to suggesting Mrs, Edwards wasn’t good enough sexually, to Savage saying kids with autism are faking, to Ann Coulter saying that the 9/11 victims are faking their grief , to William Bennett saying that aborting black children would reduce the US crime rate…….
Enough with the phony outrage!!
August 31st, 2008 at 3:37 pm
I’m a liberal, feminist, pro-choice Hillary supporter. I’m definitely not a Palin fan, she’s too conservative for me. I’m not sure who I’ll vote for (if I vote for president at all), but I know I’m not going to vote for Obama. Even if I trusted him as far as I could throw him (which I don’t), I could never condone the kind of shenanigans that went on in order for him to “win” the nomination.
Anyway, the article. STFU about Palin’s family and reproductive choices. This is disgusting. Leave the children out of it. Her oldest son should be not smeared but honored, as he is serving our country. And as for the youngest, prenatal care has nothing to do with Down’s. I thought Obama supporters were supposed to be the “educated” ones.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Hey Alan it’s one thing to be a moonbat, but hell,with those gargoyle like features you posses you actually kinda look like a bat.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:43 pm
It’s about hypocrisy – not about berating someone for having a child out of wedlock, or sex before marriage.
Who WOULDN’T have a Downs Syndrome baby? I don’t know any Democrat who would abort a child because it might – or did – have Downs.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Colmes is a real jerk–a complete asshole.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Alan I regularly disagree with you on issues and well almost everything. You are usually decent when arguing politics. That is why I am stunned that you would lower yourself to this post. Women can have early pregnancy’s I know that for a fact because my first born came 3 weeks early.
So instead of arguing facts and disagreeing with her on issues you slime the woman. I definitely would never had put your name anywhere near the top of a list of pundits that would. Are you so ideologically blinded that you don’t see this post as beneath you?
Even if it was true and she got married because she was pregnant….so what. She and her husband have had four more kids and seemingly are still in love. Well I guess being able to yell that a political opponent had a bastard scores your side some points. That is pathetic.
I hope you feel a little ashamed of yourself and make an apology. I know ….don’t hold my breath.
i4cu2
August 31st, 2008 at 4:10 pm
“General Jackson’s mother was a COMMON PROSTITUTE brought to this country by British soldiers! She afterward married a MULATTO MAN, with whom she had several children, of which number General Jackson IS ONE!!”
- Campaign ad, 1824.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:13 pm
When driving late at night I sometimes tune into Alan’s Tadio broadcast on Sirius. I listen for fifteen minutes or so until I get sick to my stomach then turn to another station for awhile. Then something draws me to turn back to Alan’s broadcast again for another brief moment. It is like when a man takes a big stinky shit in the woods, you just gotta go back for one more smell!
August 31st, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Anon, there are studies that have said more than 50% of women who are told their child will have Down’s abort.BTW, I am sure you heard about the Born Alive Act, that Obama stalled in the state senate and voted against. The nurse who testified before Congress under oath, stated the child she held for over an hour while it was left to die was a Down’s baby.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:18 pm
“Barack the Magic Negro” came from a lib LA Times writer (he might have also been black) – and for every snippit from the right in this regard there are dozens and dozens from libs. That is a lopsided comparison, to your detriment.
Phoney outrage? – Talk about projection – geeze!
August 31st, 2008 at 4:25 pm
You have sunk to a new low in sleeze. Maybe you shold look for a job at MSNBC. You would fit right in.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:27 pm
You libs never fail to be a source of amazement and amusement for me. None of the liberal talking heads on TV (read: 99% of them) ever said a word about NoBama’s lack of experience, yet they are doing a fine job of pounding that point home about Palin.
Now you have to question whether she was pregnant when her and her husband got married? Next, you’ll be trying to say her latest pregnancy was faked because the baby really belongs to Palin’s daughter… oh, wait. You did that already too!
August 31st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Alan, I want to thank you so much for this article and yesterday’s as well. It is very important for the truth to be presented to as much of the American public as possible.
And the truth is abundantly obvious:
Liberals are not “good people with bad ideas”, liberals are bad people with unspeakably hateful and evil ideas.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Sean,
I don’t know if it was ever dis-proved but be that as it may I believe he’s a Communist through a laborious process of elimination and self-investigation. As I’ve already said Communism (marxism/progressivism – I forget what other names have been used) and Islamism are close in ideology – Totalitarianism by any other name. I read the Koran and Sura – have you Sean? Anyway, I continue to maintain the reasonableness of vetting his religion, especially since I knew by listening to his interviews that it wasn’t Christianity, since he has talked about Jesus Christ in the past tense. Anyone who was ever a Christian knows that Christ – IS – present tense for 2,000 years. It’s a mistake no Christian would ever make however nervous or anxious they were and I heard him say it on a number of occasions. The MSM, of course, didn’t pick up on it. He’s since corrected his error but too late.
As for Political Correctness Sean, I don’t follow that/your religion so throwing out those ‘phobia words don’t impress me nor do they intimidate. My religion teaches me to to love my neighbor as myself. It’s the *2 rule and it’s what I try to do daily. She also teaches me Faith and Reason. I cannot have reason with limited facts therefore I have no faith in this candidate. Our MSM has done an extremely poor job in vetting Obama, in fact, to the contrary, as MSM was joke the other night. Anyway, now I get most of my information from overseas, as they still do investigative reporting however slanted and they don’t rip off made-up garbage from leftist blogs. Shame on them.
Alan Colmes, was someone I respected until he posted on this site that Sarah Palin may have caused her child to have Down Syndrome. Alan is not a stupid man and knows about their chromosome disorder so why did he post this horrific post? And now the extreme leftists are coming here with their support. Alan no longer has any credibility even as a commentator. He also practices the religion of Political Correct but it’s apparent that this religion works for a select group of people.
Alan has now backed off his accusation and now insinuates the couple had to elope to get married as she was 8 mths pregnant. He got that information from Kos.
They are now posting over at dailykos the following:
Palin’s faked “pregnancy”? Covering for teen daughter?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/29/17933/7330/417/579267
Secret’s out: Palin pregnant
http://www.adn.com/front/story/336402.html
There is nothing in their so-called source to indicate in any way that their front page slander is factual but that won’t prevent Alan Colmes et al from spreading this venom.
Anyway Sean, I’ve gone on long enough – I will add though that Obama will fall hard and it won’t be because of his personal life. It’ll be because of his work in the Senate approving INFANTICIDE. He also denies any treatment to those babies who are born alive. Please, look up on how infanticide is performed Sean and look at the pictures of these EIGHT MONTH old babies if you can. I guarantee if you do that you’ll look at this man in a whole new light. Any normal person, Dem/Repub, won’t go for that at all. This will be Obama’s nail in the coffin. Pun intended.
God Bless Sean.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Disgusting! What has happened to common sense and kindness in this country? Let’s get back to the issues and stop trying to push a sexism agenda!!!
August 31st, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Alan,
There is a way to make reparation. Bring to light the story of Down Syndrome babies who are being aborted in increasing numbers each year. The last number I read was 80%. If this was polar bears we were discussing, PETA and the media would be all over it. (not blaming PETA they’re doing their job and a good one at that – we need to employ them to protect our babies)I haven’t been watching TV today so maybe they are – in Alaska!
Anyone who has had a Down Syndrome baby or a relative whose had one, know how precious they are. They’re a gift full of love and innocence.
PS: Alan, do you know your extremist friends are calling her “the breeder”?
August 31st, 2008 at 5:05 pm
[...] I can guess the real reason why they eloped, and it wasn
August 31st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
You bible followering republicans, try to defend this woman after she COMMITTED SIN!!!!
You build the fictional Church Lady out of straw, matched to your own prejudices, to burn her in effigy. This reflect more on you than on the people you attempt to mock.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Unbelievable..now I’ll have to see what other offerings are available in that time slot. Too far over the top to ignore.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:19 pm
[...] By Alan Colmes Blog [...]
August 31st, 2008 at 5:20 pm
LOL,
Alaskans are a different breed, made of sterner stuff than the weaker hot house flowers down south. Liberal values aren’t real popular in the northland but common sense is. People take care of themselves up there which is the antithesis of liberal values and philosophy.
I’d love to be around to watch what would happen if one of these self righteous hypocritical liberals made the kind of disparaging remarks they make so boldly here on the internet in front of either one of these fine Americans. An Alaskan jury would let them walk.:)
August 31st, 2008 at 5:48 pm
typical liberal b.s., I guess your worried…..Alan keep up the bull…..you need to apologize next time your on. If your on again that is. Nice eye brow.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:04 pm
What a bunch of hate filled BS on this blog. People using bad behavior to excuse bad behavior. What a sad and pathetic bunch most of you are. What happened to the days where people could have a discussion and treat each other with respect. Agree to not agree. Most of the world does not hate this country for the policies of one party or the other. It hates us for what this society is becoming. And Alan, you are right there pushing it along. Shame on you.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Alan, you’ve posted dispicable stuff before, but this is a new low even for you. So what if Sarah Palin didn’t actually give birth to Trig? He would certainly not be the first child born to a daughter and raised by grandparents (remember Barrack Obama?). If he was not “hers” at birth, he surely is now.
Aren’t Democrats supposed to be tolerant of other people’s “choices” pertaining to reproductive matters?
August 31st, 2008 at 6:05 pm
The proper progressive liberal response to her pregnancy would have been to abort the baby and never marry the guy.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:06 pm
I thought Obama was a Christian?
So – it’s ok to be a progressive Neo-Marxist Democrat.
Not Ok to be a conservative republican Christian.
Just checking. You holy progressive neo-fascists make the rules.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
What a truly nasty little man Alan Colmes has become. And a coward as well.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Alan, I’m surprised by the content of your blog. I didn’t even know that it existed until today and I wish I had never found it because it ruins that whole image of “reasonableness” that you carry on the H&C television show.
I’ll never see you as that way again now that I know that you show your true self on the blog rather than on the television show. I’m truly sorry to learn that you are just another typical windbag who will stoop as low as necessary to score points for your “side.”
Pitiful, Alan, just pitiful. Shame on you.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:13 pm
There’s not a Republican on earth who gives a rat’s ass if a 24 year old woman has sex with her boyfriend of 7 years.
It’s the 14 year olds we’re worried about, dumbo.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Random,
Calm down and try understanding the sequence of events. You’re arriving at the tail end, whether it’s deliberate to support Alan therefore your candidate or you sincerely don’t know. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt – here’s a quick brief…
The outrage started because Alan claimed that Sarah Palin may have caused her child to have Down Syndrome which most people know is impossible as it’s a genetic defect which Alan probably knew already. So why would someone of his caliber post a lie about this woman? Alan has since apparently retracted, else he wouldn’t have pulled the thread, one might assume.
Next he dug back 20 yrs and is now accusing Sarah Palin of eloping to get married to her Highschool sweetheart because she was pregnant – yes, 20 yrs ago. None of which is confirmed. I saw this story on an extreme left blog called dailykos so I’m assuming he got it from that site.
On the front page of this same extreme leftist blog there’s yet another unconfirmed slanderous story. They’re now accusing Sarah Palin’s dtr of having the little Down Syndrome baby plus accusing her of having STD’s for months. They even have blown-up pictures of the young girls stomach. And this is presumably where Alan gets his information.
That this site wades in vile, putrid, unsubstantiated garbage is one thing, but that these types of stories are picked up by people like Alan Colmes, is where I’m shocked. I believe that’s why so many people were outraged. One doesn’t expect much from extremists but one would expect more from Alan. He no longer has any credibility. IMO, his only out is to apologize and make reparation.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Alan Colmes, you are a filthy pig.
That.Is.All!
August 31st, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Alan;
You are incrediblely ignorant…I love it when Dems start making outrageous accusations..it simply means the Republicans are on the right track!
August 31st, 2008 at 6:40 pm
OMG Alan you totally pwned that Republikkkan whore. Grow up.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:40 pm
I guess it’s OK for President Clinton to have sex in the Oval Office with an intern because that is his personal business. But omigosh! the Palin’s had sex before they were married. Well, that certainly disqualifies her from high office, doesn’t it?
August 31st, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Is it just me or is most all the female Republican politicians hot as hell and the Dem women just plain ugly?
LOL
Now I know why Democrats believe so much in abortion.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:48 pm
You have got to be kidding. This from the guy who decried the news about the President of the United States seman stain on the blue dress of an intern delivered on her knees in the White House Oval Office. Who took a position against the shopping bag media when they accused Edwards of fathering a child by his mistress, while his wife is fighting cancer. If this is the state of investagative reporting then I say lets count the days between the marrage of BO and his kids. Joe and his kids and while we are at it how about the distance between the wedding day and the birth of Alans kids. The truly news worth story here is that any of the children of these Democrates actually made it home and didn’t get flushed down the toilet at Planned Genocide. When you don’t have real mud to sling then make some up Alan. Is that the smell of fear? Alan your sweating!
August 31st, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Trig was born at 7 1/2 months. Some women delver children early and often it is a pattern. Nine months is just a suggestion, Alan.
Maybe you ought to stay out of Mrs. Palin’s uterus, since you are obviously clueless? Stay classy, sir!
August 31st, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Well, Alan, Sarah Palin is no John Edwards that’s for sure.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Whale$hit Alan – No class
August 31st, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Colmes,
You’re trying to communicate again. You might want to do something about that.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Only an ignorant idiot would blame Down’s Syndrome on poor prenatal care. Once again Alan is showing his ignorate side. Down’s syndrome is a genetic defect that is present at CONCEPTION.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Are you kidding me? Even if true, so dang what? My goodness….In liberal-la-la-land she’d dump the hubbie and bring up 5 kids by hereself, then she’d be hailed as great.
How do you really believe this kind of stuff or think that anyone with any honor would print it.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Random — you are clearly NOT a Christian.
If you were, you would know that Christians acknowledge that all are sinners who have fallen short of the standards set by God — and that includes all Christians. Perfection is not a requirement for being a Christian — besides a belief in Christ, what is required is repentance for one’s sins and a desire to do better in the future.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:13 pm
Tell you what, Alan. I’ll send Barack Obama 100 dollars if you’ll tell Todd Palin face-to-face that he fathered a bastard child.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:17 pm
When do you think that John Edwards will marry his “baby momma”? Oh yeah when his cancer stricken wife dies. Really Alan, guess we’ll never know of Barack fathered any kids before he was married and then their moms aborted them.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Alan,
Can’t you find anything else about Sarah Palin instead of attacking WHY they were married? At least they got married. Today, nobody gets married. They have babies and the birth announcements in the newspapers shows their parents with TWO last names. Which last name do the babies get? Just get over it Alan. Sarah Kalin rocks and you liberals just can’t stand it. That’s why we all love her so much…………because you liberals are throwing hissy fits. John Kerry said John McCain has no good judgement. Believe me, the conservatives are having a blast listening to all you liberals whine!! Keep on whining,Alan. Maybe you should get your OWN TV show because you are just making Sean’s TV show irritating. Much better with his Sunday night Hannity’s America. We don’t have to listen to you interrupt everyone and become rude.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:24 pm
One more thing. You liberals are obnoxious as it gets. There are millions of good democrats. Some of my friends are democrats, hell, my mother is a democrat. But those far lefties are nothing but whacked out loons, Algore is in that category along which is buddy George Soros. This election is going to be great! Can’t wait to watch the debates.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:25 pm
I agree with Santos above. I would love for Hannity and Colmes show to have Todd Palin on as a guest and for slime bag colmes to repeat what he wrote on his blog. You are a piece of work and you will get your just rewards someday.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Shocked that this hate-filled drivel appears on your site, Colmes.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Not. Your. Finest. Hour. Alan.
Not. By. A. Mile
August 31st, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Alan, keep up the good work. By inferring that lack of prenatal care her caused her new babies to be born with downs syndrome, followed by the inference that they eloped because she was knocked up say far more about who Alan Colmes is. Keep defining just how low you’re willing to stoop to “slime the girl”.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:05 pm
The Leftards would have us believe that Down’s Syndrome had NOTHING TO DO WITH some creep putting together a timeline of the night this woman gave birth to her child so that they could make a lame pointless totally useless political attack.
It’s so fucking low. And for what? That’s what really makes it low.
That is why it has provoked so much anger. Any decent person would be provoked by this bullshit. Which explains why these fucking demented Leftists are incredious that people would be so worked up.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:17 pm
VOTE FOR THE VET AND THE MOMMY – NOT THE PLAGIARIST AND THE COMMIE
August 31st, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Alan,
Come on now. This post is just vile. Don’t go there, it’s not necessary. There are real issues you could select to legitimately attack Palin. This post is just blatant rumor-mongering. It’s not necessary and it makes me wonder how scared of her people must be to pull out this garbage.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Alan,
This is really irrelevant to Gov. Palin’s credentials. I guess you have to resort to smear tactics when you don’t have anything else.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Because,
as we all know, every single baby ever conceived was born EXACTLY nine days to the month after God breathed life into it.
The Palin’s were also apparently pouring every cent of their earnings into their business, something you wouldn’t know anything about either Colmes.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Alan,
If Palin was pregnant when she got married, so what? If true then they did the right thing for their baby by getting married.
You should be pointing your finger of shame at all the gals today who can’t be bothered with doing the right thing for their babies.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Mr. Colmes, he and she at took responsibility for the child they created. The Liberal’s option would, most likely, have been abortion. I also can guess the fact that their marriage lasted twenty years they did love each other.
The values you questioned, Responsibility and Respect
August 31st, 2008 at 9:05 pm
A brand new video of the Palin family:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quvBbcFDPI0
I come from a family of nine. This video brings back memories of how we all took care of each other under the supervision of our parents. A whole family is a beautiful thing to watch and it’s what we should strive for as a country. This family will set a good example.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Alan, your days are done. Your career is over. You will be reduced to one of those nutty far left wacho blogs, hoping that your Amaxon click throughs provide you with $400 a month of income. I’m ashamed of you.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Alan-
You have lost it on this one. Bush Derangement Syndrome has become systemic and warped your humanity. I suggest a week off to contemplate the monster you have become.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Alan,
If this is all you Marxists have then you are in a world of hurt and you know it. You know you’re losing in experience. You know you’re losing on the issues. And you know you’re shilling for a Marxist and his shrew of a wife. I wait for the day that Hannity replaces you with Kirsten Powers or even better Juan Williams. Can’t Fox just fire you so you can transmit your moonbattery along side Matthews and Olberman and those other Marxists over at the MarxistStalinistNewsBroadcastingCompany.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:33 pm
You are truely a pathetic man.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:48 pm
You know what Mr. Colmes, in my opinion you are truly despicable. In the first place there are MANY sites on the web that dispute your claim and say the child in question was born in 1990 and is 18 years old. Secondly, even IF true, your throwing it out there is below contempt. It seems that morality only enters the Liberal mind when it concerns a non Democrat. And the other TRULY uneducated and slimy thing you had posted, since erased, is about as low as a so called human being can get. Also, just because you erase it here does not stop other sites from posting your comment. So Mr. Colmes, proud of yourself? If so, you must be among the VERY few who are.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:03 pm
How about some links to whether John Kerry was shtooping Terrrrazzzzzaa Heinz before her hubby was in the unfortunate plane crash?
Or how about a link to Biden’s cheating in law school and other scandals?
Or Obama’s dealings with al Mansour?
You’re a pathetic, sniveling POS. I’d love to meet you sometime to share my true opinion of you.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Alan – you are typical of the hypocritical democrats. How dare you question her morals. Democrats are the champions of the lowest common detonator. Divorce didn’t matter for Kerry, but it’s an issue for McCain. Military service was invaluable for Kerry, but not necessary for Obama. Deferment was a negative for Cheney but ok for Biden. Clinton and Obama did drugs but Bush is criticized because he had a drinking problem. And now you go after Palin. Shame, shame.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Allan’s head looks like birth canal trauma. His mother should be questioned.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Alan, I wish I could have seen your face as you were posting this incredibly deceitful piece of excreta about Governor Palin’s baby (was it good for you?). Like most way far left slimers you have an exceptionally smarmy smirk that lets observers determine the depth of your deceit by the size of your smirk. Notice I did not call you loony, you are much too intelligent for that. That intelligence only makes you more dangerous.
I normally would not consider perusing a site established by someone as obnoxious as you, but was intrigued by the many links from more civil sites.
It seems that you really outdid yourself this time. Instead of just misquoting and twisting other people’s remarks, you had to spew out some scientifically impossible BS in your demented determination to hurt this fine mother and public servant.
I’m sure that all of your Trotskyite friends will be proud of you, but any respectable person should be offended by your calumniations (note: calumniations is too mild of a word, but I’ve been searching my thesaurus and can’t seem to find a word strong enough to describe what you do).
I would be glad if FOX would fire you. I’m sure they could find a decent, civil, lefty to replace you. There must be one out there somewhere. Isn’t there? Well . . .
By the way, if you had any courage in your convictions, you would put the posting back up and let the people continue to see what a malicious lowlife you are. 404 errors are for cowards.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:19 pm
It’s true that the issue of hypocrisy would come into play if Palin is against premarital sex but committed it.
But the issue here is not hypocrisy, because all that Alan has is supposition. He doesn’t know whether Track was conceived before or after the marriage. He’s merely supposing, sans confirmation.
The real issue is Alan’s appalling lack of honesty or integrity: He’s trying to slime Palin with innuendo.
Alan, perhaps you should do some actual research, like, having the guts to ask her directly? Until you do, your article says a lot more about you than about Palin.
I’m not holding my breath.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:49 pm
I have seen and heard it all now, has our country or should I say people who support, “the One” gone so low as to even spread such lies.. Wake up people, what is our country coming to when we attack people over the birth of a child, know your facts Alan before you go out and slander someone… You know what makes it worse that some of you people are eating it up..
August 31st, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Well, this is good. Real good. You know the libs are more than slightly nervous when they start scraping below the bowels of the septic tank. Keep it up!
August 31st, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Video of the Palin family – new pictures etc:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quvBbcFDPI0
Please, please, please post the video of Sarah and her family everywhere you can. Let’s make use of this ugly thread for some good.
The video is that good it needs to be played at the Convention.
McCain/Palin 2008
August 31st, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Another excellent one of McCain vs Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/user/mtoosxy
These videos are done by kids in their 20’s. They’re so well done – no sniping or backbiting – just plain facts!
Thanks Alan for the loan of your site and for galvanizing me in this election. Good job! :)
August 31st, 2008 at 11:44 pm
Colmes – I’ve always thought you were really the weak link on H&C – now I think you are pathetic.
THIS is political discourse? First, she has had other children early – you have absolutely NO evidence that theirs was a ‘have to’ wedding, but have no reluctance to trash innocent children. What a JERK! Besides – since when does getting married because you are pregnant mean you are NOT a “family values” believer?
September 1st, 2008 at 12:02 am
gosh alan, look at all the upstanding liberals you brought out
you ought to be embarrassed
September 1st, 2008 at 12:12 am
gosh alan, look at all the upstanding liberals you brought out
you ought to be embarrassed
bet you were defending bill clinton when he was cigaring monica, “it’s only sex”, while married to hillary
the palin’s have demonstrated family values
i hope hannity gives you hell
September 1st, 2008 at 12:14 am
Damn Alan, I knew that you were a low scumbag but now you have to get a ladder to lick a snake’s ass.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:27 am
Alan, Hope For Change, and all you other liberal “legislate your views down our throats” anti-Americans,
You can rant all day about those conservative Christians who believe things that obviously, by your own admission, agitate you to ranting and keep you up at night riddled with guilt, BUT it isn’t conservative Christians that MAKE you live your life according to their views! They just voice them and you don’t have to listen if you don’t want to! YOU LIBERALS MAKE everyone live by your sick, twisted views through your anti-choice, anti-freedom, pro-death, pro-slavery anti-constitution legislation. You are the regressive party guised in the same old recycled garb like so many commie idealogues that came before you!
You liberals like to believe you are free thinkers and rebels but you are just ordinary ignorant peasants who regurgitate what you lap up from your keepers!
BTW, ever notice that Alan Colmes looks like a younger version of the Crypt Keeper ? Put their pictures side by side, you will agree!
September 1st, 2008 at 12:53 am
Mr. Colmes,
It’s not unusual, in fact more common than not, for Down Syndrome or other babies with fetal abnormalities to be born prematurely.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:01 am
And none of these sexist rants changes anything that matters in this election. Gov. Sarah Palin is more qualified for the job of President than Sen. Barack Obama. Not wanting to vote for her for VP just because she is a woman is SEXIST. You all must be uneducated redneck old men clinging to your Bibles and guns. People like you are what’s wrong with this country, this must changed. Stop hating on the woman….you sexist men.
Now ask yourselves this, did you ever wonder or ask: where was Obama, McCain, or Biden when their wives were in labor and their children born? Nope, I thought so, just a bunch of “progressive liberals” acting like Archie Bunkers. And you all are so worried about the parentage of all Gov. Palin’s children call her out on it. Make her show you the Birth Certificates. Than do the same for Sen. Obama, the ink should be dry on his by now.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:40 am
Your allegation is despicable. Ad hominem attacks such as this one merely indicates that you have no logical arguements to make.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:41 am
By my calculations, the kid was conceived on their honeymoon. You’re really grasping at straws here.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:48 am
The left is very fond of proclaiming, loudly, as if anyone could give a shit, that they dont care what goes on between two consenting adults. It seems that they are actually stuck up prudes who like running around peeking into peoples bedrooms. The hypocracy is sick.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:50 am
Gee Allen,
Too bad YOUR mother wasn’t a better Liberal who would have opted to abort.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:58 am
Gee, is this the best you can do Alan? I use to think you had half a brain: guess I was just half wrong.
Loc
September 1st, 2008 at 2:04 am
“Eh, he’s a simple-minded liberal, but he seems like an OK guy.”
“He’s pretty lame, but you gotta hand it to him going up against Sean every night.”
“He’s really pathetic, I kinda feel sorry for him, his arguments are always so weak.”
These were the kinds of things I USED to think about Alan Colmes – up until yesterday, when I first saw the post questioning SP’s judgment about her unborn baby. After reading the post, the excuse for taking down the post, and about 200 comments, I told Alan he was a GIANT, GAPING, STINKING ASSHOLE.
I’m afraid ‘asshole’ is way too weak, as it connotes just jerkiness and, well, asshole-iness.
After reading this post just now, I am, I see, the last to find out that Alan Colmes is actually a vicious, cynical, vitriolic, sickening SNAKE.
From dumbass libtard to asshole to snake in 24 hours. Hoo-boy, was I ever behind the times!
September 1st, 2008 at 2:36 am
Somewhat OT…
Has anyone noticed how this whole flap brings out the trolls who can anonymously post all kinds of racist clap trap in an effort to stir up anger and controversy?
As for the subject of was she or wasn’t she — who cares? She and her husband did the right thing and *didn’t* abort their baby either the first time or the last time. That is *living* family values when it actually counts.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:28 am
Ignorant. Ill-informed. Partisan. Classless. Clueless. Inane. Juvenile. Elitist. Pond scum. And these, Alan, are your good points.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:36 am
Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother’s side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father’s side. While Barack Hussein Obama’s father was from Kenya , his father’s family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama’s father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father’s birth certificate even states he’s Arab, not African Negro). From….and for more….go to…..
http://www.arcadeat home.com/ newsboy.phtml? Barack_Hussein_ Obama_-_Arab- American, _only_6.25% 25_AfricanBj
September 1st, 2008 at 5:38 am
Bravo, Robert!
I’m sure they’ll make you a Grand Exalted Cyclops for this. (Assuming, of course, that you can keep your sheets clean.)
Now, back to calling him “uppity.”
September 1st, 2008 at 5:55 am
Judge not that ye be not judged, for whatever measure you use to judge someone the same will be applied to you “holier that thou’s”. Alan, I would suggest taking the log out of your own eye before you try removing the speck out of Sarah Palin’s. Alaska is the biggest State in the Union, Barack wouldn’t last one winter there. I know, I lived there for 8 years and it separates the “men from the boys”. I would trust her judgement over Obama’s any day of the week.
Obx Pete. You are great. I couldn’t have said it better.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:59 am
Well said Carl, I second that.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:09 am
Shame on you Alan. So what if a couple concieved a child before marriage then did marry to give the child an intact family to grow up in? Its called making a mistake then making it right. I myself was in this boat and it led to a wonderful life: 10 years and 3 beautiful children later our original mistake led to a wonderful happy life for my husband and our children.
Alan also shows profound ignorance on the condition of Down’s Syndrome: its a genetic anomoly not a result of early labor. Further ignorance is shown when he asserts that a flight with broken water is problematic. Most women that labor the natural way stay away from hospitals as long as possible with little to no risk to the baby. Hospitals like women to come in when their water breaks so they can hook them up to iv’s and control the labor process for their own convenience: it has little to do with the welfare of the mother or baby-its about the doctors schedules and liablity. Alan’s head is up his butt in more ways then one on these assertions.
September 1st, 2008 at 8:39 am
Alan Colmes, Palin is going to give the dems problems and you now it. You guys are scrapping and scratching for something negative about palin but i do not think you will find it. Alan, lay down and lick your nuts.
September 1st, 2008 at 8:39 am
and my comment above above also assumes some sort of validity about the eldest son being concieved before marriage. There is no proof of that: babies come when they are ready. Alan’s own timeline could just as easily point to a baby born a touch early. It happens every day.
September 1st, 2008 at 8:44 am
Allan …… you are the reason I don’t watch Hannity & The Corpse anymore…… You are a typical ”affirmative action” host on that show…. Your latest allegations about Gov. Palin are simply despicable….. but then…. I’m not surprised…
September 1st, 2008 at 9:13 am
Geez Alan, I thought your party was the party of tolerence and the party for all! Apparently only if they pass your sniff test and apparently only demoncrats can make mistakes. YOU libs miss the point in Christianity that even though we ALL make mistakes those who accept CHrist ARE forgiven. Being a Christian does not mean you dont sin Alan. I really thought you were smarter than this. How does Shawn keep from punching you in the head everyday??
September 1st, 2008 at 9:30 am
I think you should resign from Foxnews. You have been measured and you have been found to be lacking. How many years have you been a whore for the Clintons and Kenedys? How many times have you told us that sex is personal. You can even lie about it to a federal grand jury. No sex between two consenting adults who are getting married is wrong? OK Alan, I think you have lost any shred of credibility. Don’t get me wrong, you never had any to begin with but thank you for making it so clear.
September 1st, 2008 at 9:44 am
Firstly, Rezco – how Obama was conceived was not his choice and does not reflect on his character or values whatsoever. But how Palin conceived her first son was within her control. So, Rezco, this is not really an appropriate analogy.
Secondly, I don’t think anyone should care if a child was conceived out of wedlock, as long as the upbringing of that child is by both parents (in some shape or form), and is loving and responsible. This appears to have been the case, so full credit to the Palin family there.
No one is calling her a whore (or certainly shouldn’t be). The issue is that Palin has so clearly aligned herself with traditional strong church values – anti-gay anti-abortion etc. So one could easily assume her views on sex before marriage. But it seems that either our assumptions are wrong, which it may be. Maybe she accepts sex before marriage. Alternatively, she has not lived by the proclaimed values. These values are her USP for the American public – one of the main reasons she was picked by McCain. As a result, should they be scrutinised and commented on (responsibly and not for the sole reason of childish mud slinging!). Yes – absolutely.
September 1st, 2008 at 10:03 am
Alan
These attacks are just stupid. You claim the baby was born from palin’s ill-care. What you are saying is that a woman can’t do a job and have time to care for a baby. Unless, of course, she takes the time to kill it.
Shame on you combs – why don’t you think women are capable of being mothers and leaders
I laughed at hoe Huklebee and dobson countered everything you said the other night.
September 1st, 2008 at 10:04 am
Alan, you are pathetic and your true colors are coming out. I held out hope that there was a liberal who could engage in meaningful discussion as opposed to slander and inuendos that cannot be backed up. You are as irresponsible as the huffington post. The fact is you left wingers are so ticked that you can’t find the equivaelent of William Ayers, Rev Wrong, and Rezco that you have to resort to such gutter politics. Where are the feminest now? I encourage everyone to write Fox New calling for Alan to be replaced by Kristen Powers. She may be a liberal but she does engage in thoughtful representation occassionaly. Oh, wait! we should first find out if she has any children and if she received pre-natal care to qualify her to sit in the highest left wing office of pontification.
September 1st, 2008 at 10:09 am
Alan, I thought you had class. I guess I am wrong.
September 1st, 2008 at 10:38 am
Is Alan learning from right wingers?
Rush Limbaugh: “Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society.” [The Rush Limbaugh Show,
Republican pollster Frank Luntz on Nancy Pelosi's appearance: "I always use the line for Nancy Pelosi, 'You get one shot at a facelift. If it doesn't work the first time, let it go.'
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Savage: "My fear is that if the Democrats win [in the November midterm elections], and I’m afraid that they might, you’re going to see America melt down faster that you could ever imagine. It will happen overnight, and it could lead to the breakup of the United States of America, the way the Soviet Union broke up.”
Fox News host Sean Hannity ,two months before the November midterm elections: “This is the moment to say that there are things in life worth fighting and dying for and one of ‘em is making sure [Rep.] Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] doesn’t become the [House] speaker.”
Beck: “Cindy Sheehan. That’s a pretty big prostitute there, you know what I mean?”
Coulter on Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-RI): “They Shot the Wrong Lincoln.”
Rush Limbaugh, blaming America’s “obesity crisis” on “the left,” “liberal government,” and “food stamps”: “Because we are sympathetic, we are compassionate people, we have responded by letting our government literally feed these people to the point of obesity.
Nationally syndicated radio host Michael Savage: “That’s why the department store dummy named Wolf Blitzer, a Jew who was born in Israel, will do the astonishing act of being the type that would stick Jewish children into a gas chamber to stay alive another day.
Beck: “Blowing up Iran. I say we nuke the bastards. In fact, it doesn’t have to be Iran, it can be everywhere, anyplace that disagrees with me.”
Nationally syndicated radio host Neal Boortz on Rep. Cynthia McKinney’s (D-GA) hairstyle: “She looks like a ghetto slut. … It looks like an explosion in a Brillo pad factory.
Coulter responding to Hardball host Chris Matthews’ question, “How do you know that [former President] Bill Clinton’s gay?”: “I don’t know if he’s gay. But [former Vice President] Al Gore — total fag.”
Rush Limbaugh calling Iraq war vet Paul Hackett a “staff puke,” claiming he went to Iraq “to pad [his] resume,” and attacked him as “a liberal hiding behind a military uniform.”
Former Reagan administration Secretary of Education Bill Bennett: “[Y]ou could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down.” [Salem Radio Network's Bill Bennett's Morning in America,
Bill O'Reilly to San Francisco: "[I]f Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we’re not going to do anything about it. … You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead.” [Westwood One's The Radio Factor with Bill O'Reilly,
Republican pollster Frank Luntz on Nancy Pelosi's appearance: "I always use the line for Nancy Pelosi, 'You get one shot at a facelift. If it doesn't work the first time, let it go.
Rush Limbaugh on the kidnapping of peace activists in Iraq: "I'm telling you, folks, there's a part of me that likes this." [The Rush Limbaugh Show,
Ann Coulter: Bill Clinton "was a very good rapist"; "I'm getting a little fed up with hearing about, oh, civilian casualties"; "I think we ought to nuke North Korea right now just to give the rest of the world a warning." [New York Observer,
Radio host Glenn Beck: "[Y]ou know it took me about a year to start hating the 9-11 victims’ families? Took me about a year.” [Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program,
Nationally syndicated radio host Neal Boortz on Rep. Cynthia McKinney's (D-GA) hairstyle: "She looks like a ghetto slut. ... It looks like an explosion in a Brillo pad factory.
Coulter responding to Hardball host Chris Matthews' question, "How do you know that [former President] Bill Clinton’s gay?”: “I don’t know if he’s gay. But [former Vice President] Al Gore — total fag.”
Former Reagan administration Secretary of Education Bill Bennett: “[Y]ou could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down.” [Salem Radio Network's Bill Bennett's Morning in America,
Bill O'Reilly to San Francisco: "[I]f Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we’re not going to do anything about it. … You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead.” [Westwood One's The Radio Factor with Bill O'Reilly,
American Family Association president Tim Wildmon: Liberals "don't have the kind of family responsibilities most people have, and certainly not church responsibilities." [American Family Radio's Today's Issues,
David Horowitz on Cindy Sheehan: "It's very hard to have respect for a woman who exploits the death of her own son and doesn't respect her own son's life. ... She portrays him as an idiot." [MSNBC's Connected: Coast to Coast,
Pat Buchanan: "Our guys" in Iraq "have got every right to have good news put into the media and get to the people of Iraq, even if it's got to be planted or bought." [MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews,
Neal Boortz, suggesting that a victim of Hurricane Katrina housed in an Atlanta hotel consider prostitution: "I dare say she could walk out of that hotel and walk 100 yards in either direction on Fulton Industrial Boulevard here in Atlanta and have a job. What's that? Well, no, no, no. ... Well, you know what? [laughing] Now that you mention it … [i]f that’s the only way she can take care of herself, it sure beats the hell out of sucking off the taxpayers.” [Cox Radio Syndication’s The Neal Boortz Show,
September 1st, 2008 at 10:49 am
I have always respected Alan Colmes, but I am deeply offended by his comments! How dare he question a woman’s prenatal care or even whether their first son was conceived out of wedlock? How does that add any value to this process? He’s crossed the line and I am not sure I can even watch your show any longer! Some things are off limits if you ask me…kids, illnesses, deep personal matters that are of no concern to the public, etc. I don’t care if it’s about Michelle Obama, Hilary Clinton, or Sarah Palin! You just don’t cross that line! You crossed the line Alan!
September 1st, 2008 at 10:50 am
Oldlefty…I didn’t read your entire whining session because I really didn’t have the time, but I did notice that there were some inappropriate comments from Frank Luntz about Pelosi and Ann Coulter about Bill and Al being Gay (and one idiotic slimy comment by Bennett). Other than those and again, I did not read the whole thing, I read nothing but quotes from Americans who have the right to express how they feel. Some of the quotes, though, are conveniently cut short. What the dummies on the right say at times should not be a license for the left. There should be some standards. You don’t got personal. That’s is!
September 1st, 2008 at 11:04 am
Nancy Pelosi is a stain on the Congress. She has utter and complete contempt for this country.
September 1st, 2008 at 11:10 am
Boy, you gotta LOVE the phony, sanctimonious outrage of the right.
Comedy at it’s best!
September 1st, 2008 at 11:12 am
So they eloped before their first child was born. Big deal.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Just a couple of thoughts:
Always thought that Alan was kept around the H&C show as a foil for Hannity’s wit. Now I am convinced he is not only totally misguided, extremely annoying,and ignorant to boot, but he is also a sore loser.
What really gets me is that these Liberals are so “pro-choice”. Well, Sarah Palin and her husband made a choice, Alan. They chose to keep that precious baby.
Oh, now I see, the “choice” in “pro-choice” is choosing at what point to abort the baby. Funny how their “pro-choice” rhetoric falls flat when the choice isn’t what they want.
I hope McCain/Palin kick Obama/Biden right out of the spotlight. That would add to your miserable record of having elections “stolen” right out from under ya’ll.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Alan, this is amazing. Aren’t you liberals the ones who say to stay out of people’s private lives?
Yes, sex outside of/before marriage is wrong. But if she was a liberal you wouldn’t think a thing of it if she DID NOT fix that ‘mistake’ by marrying the guy, and instead remained a single mother following the brave new path of Murphy Brown.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:41 pm
OLDLEFTY no, she did not flaunt her sin for all to see, nor is she continuing in it. Liberals continue in it and try to justify it. BIG DIFFERENCE. But I am not surprised you can’t see that little ‘nuance.’
September 1st, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Alan, I am suprised. You need to watch tape of yourself 3 years ago. You have changed, getting nasty and unbending. People you are “interviewing” can’t even get a word in edgewise. Now this, too bad. Maybe you can apply at MSNBC. You have been taking lessons from them.
September 1st, 2008 at 2:21 pm
[...] he decided to calculate how long before the birth of their first child the Palins were married (less than nine months is [...]
September 1st, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Tony,
The quotes I list are ALL from conservative “pundits”, saying EXTREMELY ugly things about their fellow Americans.
It is the right wingers who are ALWAYS whining the minute they are on the receiving end of the mudslinging that THEY feel is THEIR exclusive right to dish out.
September 1st, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Paula,
WHAT flaunting WHAT sin are you talking about?
Sarah Palin’s children have NOTHING to do with whether or not she would be good for the country.
The fact that McCain met her only once for a short time shows that he doesn’t have the judgment to be president!
September 1st, 2008 at 2:36 pm
This situation is quite common (apparently especially in this family). That is not the issue. It’s that people presume to tell the rest of us to behave in ways they seem to be incapable of. It’s the usual right-wing holier-than-thou hypocrisy that is so wrong. Palin is a standard BushCo conservative and exactly the kind of person that we are all so sick of running the country.
September 1st, 2008 at 2:37 pm
To Alan Colmes, Old Lefty, etc. etc.:
If this is the best we can come up with to malign the Republicans then I suggest someone had better get to work and find something worth printing here. This “possibility of pre-marital sex” ain’t it…
September 1st, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Alan:
People might misconstrue your post and think it means that it’s all you’ve got on Sarah Palin.
September 1st, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Annie,
I have NOT maligned the Republicans on pre martial sex. That is a Republican problem.
I HAVE maligned them for for dishing out the ugliest stuff I have EVER heard, and then feigning outrage when one tenth of that ugliness comes back to them.
I malign them for putting a person who McCain only met ONCE, and has never demonstrated any interest in anything outside of Alaska a heartbeat from the presidency, on a whim!
Don’t include me in the pre marital sex nonsense.
September 1st, 2008 at 2:52 pm
OldLefty:
Sorry, didn’t mean to include you on that if that wasn’t your point. Just the whole thing here seems pretty void of anything substantial and I guess I do lose track sometimes about who said what.
I would have to disagree with you on the ugliest stuff coming from the right. It does seem to me that there are some really unhappy left-wingers posting here and spewing really hateful half-baked stuff.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:05 pm
ANNIE: Anything critical that a conservative says is by definition hateful. That is because they are so narcisist they view any crack in their fascade as a threat to them. Plus they view themselves as the moral arbitors of mankind and to be opposed to thier POV is not just to be incorrect but evil.
Thus the reason they can’t resist attributing the worst motives on people they know nothing about.
Lefties dwell in the world of the Group and they view everything as Groups (that’s how they can sustain their agititation and victim culture).. Conservatives are not like that.. the closet the right gets might be the social conservatives. Tammy Bruce says trying to get any sort of Movement going with conservatives is like trying to herd cats. Her background is from the radical Left until she realized she was lied to by leaders of various radical groups.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:11 pm
My first paragraph should have read:
ANNIE: Anything critical that a conservative says is by definition hateful according to the Left. That is because they [the Left] are so narcisist they view any crack in their fascade as a threat to them. Plus they view themselves as the moral arbitors of mankind and to be opposed to thier POV is not just to be incorrect but evil.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Vince P Chicago:
I guess you’re saying that by left-winger definition anything a conservative says is hatelful, no matter what it is?
September 1st, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Alan Colmes — I have listened to you for years. I used to like you. It is liberals like you who have taken my party away from me. I was a dem because I really thought that the Repubs were the evil, nast bad guys. Come to find out the dems were just holding it all in until they felt safe and their power was just a hair breadth away. I now believe that you are despicable and cannot wait until I cast my first Republican vote in my entire 60 something years.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Thanks Vince P:
Your second post showed up at the same time I was sending mine :-)
September 1st, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Vince P:
I am beginning to see what you mean about left winger POV being the only legitimate one just from reading this site…
September 1st, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Annie,
Just a little sampling of the ugliness I’ve seen over the last few years, from those who are apoplectic now.
Radio host Glenn Beck: “[Y]ou know it took me about a year to start hating the 9-11 victims’ families? Took me about a year.” [Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program
Bill Bennett: The former U.S. education secretary-turned-talk show host said Wednesday that "if you wanted to reduce crime, you could -- if that were your sole purpose -- you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down."
Rush Limbaugh on the kidnapping of peace activists in Iraq: "I'm telling you, folks, there's a part of me that likes this." [The Rush Limbaugh Show,
Rush Limbaugh: "Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society." [The Rush Limbaugh Show,
Republican pollster Frank Luntz on Nancy Pelosi's appearance: "I always use the line for Nancy Pelosi, 'You get one shot at a facelift. If it doesn't work the first time, let it go.'
Fox News host Sean Hannity ,two months before the November midterm elections: "This is the moment to say that there are things in life worth fighting and dying for and one of 'em is making sure [Rep.] Nancy Pelosi [D-CA] doesn’t become the [House] speaker.”
Beck: “Cindy Sheehan. That’s a pretty big prostitute there, you know what I mean?”
Bill Bennett: The former U.S. education secretary-turned-talk show host said Wednesday that “if you wanted to reduce crime, you could — if that were your sole purpose — you could abort every black baby in
Coulter on Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-RI): “They Shot the Wrong Lincoln.”
Nationally syndicated radio host Michael Savage: “That’s why the department store dummy named Wolf Blitzer, a Jew who was born in Israel, will do the astonishing act of being the type that would stick Jewish children into a gas chamber to stay alive another day.
Ann Coulter: Bill Clinton “was a very good rapist”; “I’m getting a little fed up with hearing about, oh, civilian casualties”; “I think we ought to nuke North Korea right now just to give the rest of the world a warning.” [New York Observer,
September 1st, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Dear Mr. Colmes,
I am appalled and disgusted at this blog entry. I cannot convey how disappointed I am that you would stoop to this kind of mud slinging (spare me the condescending lecture that you are just exposing Republican hypocrisy.) I listened to your show most nights and respected you. Now you have become one of the reasons why I feel disenfranchised by my own party. I NEVER expected you to participate in the misogyny being leveled at Governor Palin. I disagree with her on a lot of issues, but the personal smears leveled at her from commentators on Air America, and in which you are now participating, is disgusting.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Old Lefty:
You’re quoting people who are being funny half the time. I don’t like Neal Boortz — whom you mentioned earlier, anyway. I don’t listen to most of thise you’ve mentioned because I’m usually just too busy. Ann Coulter is mostly serious but she throws in that kind of stuff to be funny. I can’t believe you take any of these totally seriously.
But I’ve never before in my life heard the hideous hateful stuff that comes from some people on the democrat side. They attack the person and not the issues.
I’ll tell you one that I heard Neal Boortz say one morning when I was listening to the radio on my way to work. And I don’t care who you are, you’ve got to see the humor in this:
**Somebody said that Hillary was a sexy woman. Why I’ve seen sexier looking llamas!**
September 1st, 2008 at 3:35 pm
If it is conservatives who are choosing to bear their children conceived out of wedlock and in other uncomfortable circumstances, the WOW, it must be the liberals who are having about 1 million abortions in the US every year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And you’re talking about hypocricy?
September 1st, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Mary S. Spahr:
Yep, there are a lot of folks out there not just having abortions but PROMOTING abortion — oops, I guess I mean pomoting CHOICE — as if it’s a method of birth control.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:44 pm
That is, promoting CHOICE as if it’s an acceptable thing to murder babies and then some even think of it as birth control…
September 1st, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Old Lefty:
One example I personally saw recently was when I was looking up a new book that had just come out.
You could see that 99% of the “reviews” of the book were a gang effort. You could see that not one of the so-called “reviewers” had even read the book. But they all wrote extremely hideous,obviusly unresearched personal attacks against the author. Do you think the book was maybe considered to be a conservative book?
September 1st, 2008 at 3:58 pm
that SB, “obviously”
September 1st, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Alan,
Is this your attempt to put forth here a breaking news piece of investigative journalism declaring that one of our soldiers is a bastard? Is that what this is?
September 1st, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Still reads well Alan, very courageous, keep up the good work.
I am not sure what the Fallwells, Dobsons, and Pat Robertsons think about this, but then they must get tired of the Republican Family Values train that was led by Ted Haggard, George W Bush’s Evangelical 3rd wave christianist coach (or was that gay methhead and leader of a 14,000 member church and leader of a 45,000 church association-30MILLION members the National Association of Evangelicals). Who do we turn to for Republican Family Values? Larry Craig in the mens bathroom at the Minnesota Airport or Denny Hastert covering up the Foley Page scandal.
It’s enough to bring Tammy Faye Bakker from the dead (RIP) and show us some REAL TEARS for the Grand Ole Republican Party, not Jim Bakker also a scumbag.
God Bless him and them all.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Guybertrame:
Wow! Is someone now going to trot out the well-deserved personal attacks against the fine fine examples we find among the democrats?
I don’t recall ever reading that ANYONE in the conservative right wing of the Republican party ever claimed to be PERFECT. I’m not perfect, are you?
We’re so glad that GUYBERTRAME is now going to list the fine qualities of the democrats! You know, for the sake of of honesty and truthfulness.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Annie,
I have No idea what book you are talking about.
I feel that the most hateful things I have seen or heard have come from the right.
You can say they are just being funny, but #1 they fan alot of hateful flames “just being funny”, and #2 they are the MOST outraged when when something anywhere near as hateful is directed at them.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Thank you Annie your deep elequence inspired me, much appreciated.
The Democrats/Independent don’t give a flip about conception timing or try and legislate sex, BUT THE CHRISTIANIST RIGHT DOES.
And that is part of the constituency that the Dobsons and Ralph Reeds are trying to shore up with the Palin pick. I’m a registered Republican, still-barely, and DETEST the Bush2 administration and am disappointed by an ultra-conservative evangelical-creationist VP pick. My hope is that McCain is replaced by a younger adulterer at the Minnesota convention and they replace him with say WIllard Romney and Guilliani. I can get behind those two.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Old Lefty:
I deliberately didn’t mention the name of the book because the title wasn’t the point. The gang method of skewing the reviews by tearing up the author was my point.
Did you ever analyze why Ann Coulter and others say some of the things they do? It’s to get the expected (& well-documented) reaction from the left.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:27 pm
GUYBERTRAME:
I am so sorry that you are so unhappy that the majority of the people in this country still believe that we have a right and an obligation to do what’s right. There certainly are hypocritical people everywhere. But as I said, there are no perfect people, so what could anyone possibly expect?
I too have been disappointed in some of the President’s stands. But I will only hope that you can keep your head until after the election. If Obama gets in we are going to have HELL to pay — every single one of us!
September 1st, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Anne,
I could care less what Anne Coulter says.
I do agree with you about it being justabout getting attention.
I think another goal is to repeat a lie enough, sosome of it will stick.
My mom was a big Hillary supporter. a ‘bingo friend of her’s, said,(quite sincererly, as she is NOT at all political), ” You know she is a @##$$%” .(It doesn’t matter)
My mom asked, “Where did you hear that!?”
“I don’t know, I just heard”, she replied.
Eventually, she got the woman to admit that she did not hear it from any reliable source.
Over the next 3 months she heard this woman repeat it again six times.
THAT is the damage it does, even when they get called on it and say, “it was just funny”.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
WHO CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 1st, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Charming Annie, so much to learn here.
Did anyone ever tell you that Jesus wasn’t white either?
God Bless.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Alan, Alan, Alan…
You are so blinded by your need to bash, you have forgotten the realities of pregnancy. It is the RARE woman who knows she is pregnant in the first month. If she did, they did the right thing, Alan.
What is far more likely is that, having decided to elope, they started the honeymoon a week early, or perhaps the very night they were married, Alan. Not all babies arrive on a strict 9 month schedule, fool.
Christians aren’t perfect, Alan, just Forgiven.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Was pointed to this site through a link about the disgusting remark Alan made.
I am actually scared from reading many of the posts here. Many individuals who have absolutely no clue what they are talking about – a classic example of “group think”.
What I fear most from reading these posts, is that people actually are enjoying the possibility of some one making a mistake. They enjoy demeaning and insulting people through personal attack when they make a mistake. To further insult the individual, they make personal claims based on rumor, non-substantiated information.
Since people cannot “attack” the issues in a political race, they attack the individual. This is sad and scary. It has become an election that does not elect the best person for the job (based on platform) but rather let’s elect the person left standing after we destroy them.
The irony about this is that the crude personal attacks are from the left – the so called democrats who say they want a clean race. The hypocrisy that the left shows in unbelievable – is absent from their rhetoric.
People are people. People are human, regardless of how hard they try to be perfect.
The difference between Obama/Biden and McCaine/Palin is in the fact that the Obama ticket has never “corrected” an issue. Instead it is a cover up in gigantic proportions. The replies are empty. Go to a church for 20 years and never heard your racist pastor talk racist? Buy a house from a criminal and then, again, deny knowing anything. Hang around with a terrorist and deny knowing anything. Obtain election contributions from Middle East terrorists and claim you gave the money back – but cannot show that you gave it back.
The list goes on and on. The FACT that Obama tries to cover it up, deny its existence or ignores the inquiries tells me more about the shadiness of an individual than one who becomes “allegedly” pregnant before marriage; but does the right thing, makes it right by getting married.
The better of the 2 makes things right. The other is living in darkness – lies, manipulation and denial.
God honors the one who makes it right. The other still lives in darkness.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:53 pm
Ziggidy, We made a MISTAKE on George W Bush the last 8 years and we certainly aren’t going to vote for ANOTHER Republican who voted with him 90% of the time, or his evangelical creationist VP. Not gonna happen.
The Republicans have NOTHING to run on the last 8 years other than some welcomed and surprisingly large investment in AIDS funding, congratulations. Time for a change.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Guybertame, stick to the issues and I will gladly accept your opinion on this election.
I have yet to see (not that it won’t happen) any effort to personalize an attack on Obama, yet the opposite occurs daily.
Obama’s judgment (or lack of), IMHO, has a life of its own. I base that on facts and not personal attacks.
There is a difference.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Ziggidy, just the facts jack, I couldn’t care less about your opinion. Nothing could be clearer to a lied to Republican.
“We made a MISTAKE on George W Bush the last 8 years and we certainly aren’t going to vote for ANOTHER Republican who voted with him 90% of the time, or his evangelical creationist VP. Not gonna happen.
The Republicans have NOTHING to run on the last 8 years other than some welcomed and surprisingly large investment in AIDS funding, congratulations. Time for a change
September 1st, 2008 at 6:28 pm
GuyBertrame,
You substantiate my point perfectly!
Thanks!
September 1st, 2008 at 6:47 pm
The Republican party is all about family value. Let’s see, one family, two unwed mothers. Good grief. Now let me think…for whom will the Palin Girls serve as an example?
September 1st, 2008 at 6:55 pm
And while we’re at it, why would someone determined to carry a child to term at age 44 have genetic testing done in the first place?
September 1st, 2008 at 6:56 pm
[...] The inspiration (take from it what you will): http://www.alan.com/2008/08/29/conservative-family-values/ [...]
September 1st, 2008 at 8:01 pm
You are welcome Ziggy:) Leave the candidates families alone, stick to the issues.
“We made a MISTAKE on George W Bush the last 8 years and we certainly aren’t going to vote for ANOTHER Republican who voted with him 90% of the time, or his evangelical creationist VP. Not gonna happen.
The Republicans have NOTHING to run on the last 8 years other than some welcomed and surprisingly large investment in AIDS funding, congratulations. Time for a change
http://www.bobbarr2008.com/
September 1st, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Regarding Hope for Change’s math in his or her post on August 29th, 2008 at 5:03 pm, without getting into the greater debate, aren’t there in fact 236 days or about 33 weeks and 5 days between August 28th, and April 20th. Further, given that due dates are determined based on the first day of your last menstruation cycle, and that ovulation occurs 14 days after that, isn’t it also a fact even if Track was a wedding night, one hit wonder, an April 20th birth would have made him NINE weeks premature? I am sure it was an honest mistake, and you would be horrified to spread misinformation, so I just thought I’d post the corrected info for you. Regards
September 1st, 2008 at 8:52 pm
[...] FOX News’ Alan Colmes reports on this same issue, and notes that Sarah Palin’s son was born on April 20, 1989. The Palins eloped and were married on August 29, 1988. [...]
September 1st, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Alan, you are disgusting. I do not know why Fox news keeps you on. I can not stand to look at you. The only reason I watch is Because of Shawn. I have started turning the channel when you come on. You are rude to your guest. You interupt them and say something really ugly to them and then they do not have time to answer .
September 1st, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Ziggidy:
Isn’t it something how dems are interested in free speech unless it’s coming from someone who does not agree with them?
Guybertrame: What does that mean that Jesus Christ was not white and why do you tell me that?
September 1st, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Old Lefty:
I guess your point about that woman making a statement that came from an unreliable source is that Alan Colmes is a reliable source?
Don’t make us all laugh…
September 1st, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Sorry OldLefty, that last post should have been directed to Guybertrame.
September 1st, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Nope, I was right the first time and I guess I need to get off her because I’m sleepy.
September 1st, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Am I correct in thinking that Barrack Obama is the bastard son of a bigamist from Kenya who impregnated a 17 yr. old American woman, married her illegally and then left as soon as responsibility reared its ugly head? Well, what do you know?
Alan Colmes just gets sicker and sicker.
September 1st, 2008 at 10:51 pm
Alan,
Shawn Hannity must have been blackmailed to be on that show with you. I don’t hate many people Alan, but you I hate with a passion. You are the biggest whiner on TV and probably on earth. When you open your mouth you brains come falling out. The only reason most people watch that show is for Shawn. As far as the Palins you are not fit to scrape their shoes. Slimemaster!
September 1st, 2008 at 11:12 pm
“WE are not shoving the ‘family values’, moral, religious, ‘higher than thou’ crap down everyones throat.”
Ha, you’d have to have family values, morals and believe in a higher power than yourself to do so.
September 1st, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Do people on the Left really think it’s absurd to have morals?
September 1st, 2008 at 11:48 pm
[...] The inspiration (take from it what you will): http://www.alan.com/2008/08/29/conservative-family-values/ [...]
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:09 am
Well her husband isn’t a conservative, so that should explain it.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:03 am
Alan-
What a crummy, cheap little comment from you.
It wasn’t worthy of the waste of bandwidth.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:17 am
Colmes, you can do better than this. Take your ritalin.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:38 am
Aspire to something good for once in your life, Alan.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:39 am
Now – this is really what raisimg your kids is all about…excellent photo documentation of Sarah Palin’s oldest daughter & her friends – on a Conservative site!
http://www.stupidsheeple.com/index.php/2008090140/latest/bristol-palin-gone-wild.html
September 2nd, 2008 at 6:00 am
You are one of the lowest lifeforms on the planet. This is surefire proof that Michael Savage is right….Liberalism IS a mental disorder!
September 2nd, 2008 at 6:59 am
stay classy alan
September 2nd, 2008 at 11:16 am
Can anyone tell me a comparable comment on a liberal by any well-known conservative? Anyone know of a conservative bringing up the wedding date vs. birth-date of the first child? I can’t remember any, but I may be wrong.
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:26 pm
[...] I almost forgot, apparently Sarah Palin is a fornicator a Nazi-sympathizer, and secessionist white [...]
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:27 pm
[...] I almost forgot, apparently Sarah Palin is a fornicator a Nazi-sympathizer, and secessionist white [...]
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:49 pm
This is significant on two fronts:
(1) if she’s not being honest about the reason for eloping rather than staging a traditional wedding (after all Palin seems to crave the sort of limelight and attention that a bride gets just once in a lifetime), then that’s an issue of trust. She said she smoked pot … why not disclose this if it’s the case.
(2) if she became pregnant before she was married and a generation later her 17-year-old daughter repeats the pattern, one would hope that she would realize that teaching abstinence alone is hardly appears to be effective.
An out of wedlock pregnancy, and giving birth to a child known to have Downs’s Syndrome go to demonstrate her real life commitment to the pro-life movement — in that case two and two make four; but her own life experiences and those of her daughter suggest her positions on birth control and sex education need to be reconsidered. With the later circumstances things just don’t add up.
Sarah Palin — it’s all a question of trust and good judgement.
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Today we have the same sheep who follow Limbaugh and
Bush will the same white slave mentality are now in
Palin’s camp.
There will be a lot more to come about Palin.About her
overreaching and using her authority to get people fired.About how the wanted to recall her as MAJOR for the same offens.
How her husband interjects himself in governmental employ issues and gets government emails and information on employees sent to him but she wont release to the public. This same husband sits in on government meetings where he has NO business being. You
Repubs talked about Bill and Hilary Clinton but you find this acceptable.
This same woman sold Alaskan pipeland to CANADA and will DO THE SAME FOR ANY FURTHER PIPELAND DRILLED IN ALASKA.
Somehow Palin forgets that THE UNITED STATES CITIZENS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR ALASKA AND THE OIL ULTIMATELY BELONGS TO AMERICA.
I for one believes that Palin is a scheming, grinning liar and I do have my doubts as to whether she actually is the mother of the DS baby.
THESE QUESTIONS WERE BEING ASKED IN ALASKAN PAPERS LONG BEFORE NOW. NO MULTIPLE BIRTH MOTHER COULD BE WITHOUT
ANY SIGNS OF BEING PREGNANT. SHE PICTURES OF HER PREVIOUS PREGNANCIES.
I dont care about her daughters pregnancy. I just want Palin to stop deceiving and lying. I think the RNC told the public about the daughters pregnancy to get the public interest off finding out that Palin is a liar.
WHY HAVE THE HOSPITAL RECORD BEEN REMOVED!!! SINCE WHEN
ARE BIRTHS SECRET?
You sheep have just about destroyed America with your
blindness and johnny one note love of PRO_LIFE. Every life is sacred. NOT JUST WHEN YOU CANT CALL IT BY NAME.
You repubs just like to CONTROL EVERYBODY ELSES LIFE WHILE YOU PLAY FAST AND LOOSE YOURSELVES.
As the Bible says look at yourselves.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:32 pm
For a baby to be born after 33 weeks is not common, but it does happen, but when that’s 33 weeks after your parents have eloped … now, of course, we know it’s “like mother, like daughter”.
There is nothing wrong in a 24 year old woman that has sex with her boyfriend and then decides to get quickly married when she discovers that she is pregnant, but when that woman is a bible-toting, family-values, christian zealot, it smacks of hypocrisy.
It’s great that someone stopped the “Bridged to Nowhere”, but when that someone campaigned for governor on the premise of building the bridge and then allocated state funds to build the road to the bridge and killed the project only once she realized that Stevens’ and Young’s diminished power in Washington meant that there would be less federal funds for it, it smacks of hypocrisy.
You have every right to claim that your opponent doesn’t have the experience to be president, but when you’re a 72 year old cancer survivor and appoint as your vice president someone with virtually no experience, it smacks of hypocrisy.
It’s fine to accuse your opponent of being elitist who doesn’t understand the common person, but when your family is so rich you don’t even know how many homes you own, it smacks of hypocrisy.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Alan, you miss the point but then you are a liberal….they got married!!!! They are still together after 20 years and have 5 children, will you criticise THAT family value? I see you have removed your vile comment about Palin creating her disabled child by not getting correct medical care. Guess you are not man enough to apologize and say you were wrong and that what you said was in very poor taste….but don’t worry enough people have the cached version copied so you cannot deny it. You are a bottom feeder and I expected better from you.
September 2nd, 2008 at 5:41 pm
I think bringing all this out is appropriate considering the hypocrasy of Ms. Palin. According to her son’s birthdate she would of been around 6 weeks pregnant when she got married. I have read articles that state palin’s mother as saying the elopement was a surprise but Sarah told her she did it because she knew her parents couldn’t give her a “white wedding”. Her husband’s excuse was it was a bad season for fishing and was strapped for money. Lies, Lies, Lies! That is why it matters. This woman has the audacity to stand behind a bill that preaches abstinance before marriage and look at her…can we say “hypocrit” or one who did not practice what they preach but wants to tell everyone else what to do and condemn them if they have sex without being married. Give me a break! I guess it is alright she did it. Kind of reminds me of the Westboro Baptist Church philosophy. I guess her character just says “FAKE” to me.. Good job Allen!
September 2nd, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Alan,
You are such a plant. Real liberals DO NOT CARE about other people’s personal choices: Live & let live, I say. Good for her. She got pregnant and lived up to her values by getting married.
Alan Colmes is a tool for Faux News.
September 2nd, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Alan,
I have always enjoyed watching you on FOX news, and have often commented that you are “my favorite Liberal.” I actually think that you treat your TV guests beter than Hannity most of the time. However, I was deeply disappointed to first read your recent comments about Gov. Palin and her children, and then learn that you removed the origional posts. Poor form!
September 2nd, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Nice cheap shot Alan, but did you bother to find out if the child was born early? Why trouble a drive-by attack with facts? Besides, I thought sex didn’t matter. Remember Bill Clinton? Oh, wait… I know why a liber… uhh… progressive like you would have a problem with this story. She should have left the guy and relied on the government to fill the role of patriarch, right? Or better yet, should she have sacrificed the child in the most holy sacrament of the church of liberalism? Now I understand… how silly of me.
September 2nd, 2008 at 8:51 pm
I am pro-choice. I am not a right-wing Christian (I am a secular Humanist — “athiest”), so I can say this with complete unbiased attitude that the vast majority of “family values” people (or right wing religious conservatives, whatever) do not see this or any situation like this as a problem. It seems to be a widespread incorrect stereotype that they would call on God to damn the family or the daughter or something.
Family values isn’t about demonizing people who make mistakes, it is about supporting your family to make the right choices when mistakes are made.
They are not hypocrites, but the people who are supposedly about compassion and progressive culture who are attacking this family and their young daughter are.
September 2nd, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Bottom line … if it’s a Democrat, it’s NOT okay.
If it’s a repukelicon, anything goes.
September 2nd, 2008 at 9:37 pm
And to the people who are claiming that the Palin’s eloped 20 years ago only because they were pregnant and were ashamed of it, and not because they were poor….: where is your proof? Everyone has said that they did it because they didn’t want to cause financial hardship on their parents, but you want to make up rumors and slander in an attempt to make yourself feel good about your upcoming choice on Election Day.
September 2nd, 2008 at 9:40 pm
“Hope for Change” check your math. That’s about 31 weeks not 37. Not even close to term.
September 2nd, 2008 at 9:55 pm
I am saddened to see all of the personal attacks that occur in this forum…People are attacking Governor Palin and her husband for conceiving a child prior to their marriage…Would those same people be praising the couple had they decided to have an abortion? People are hurling racial insults at Senator Obama and his mother…People are lumping all Democrats together…People are lumping all Republicans together…Sadly, there are those who feel that Governor Palin is unqualified simply because of her gender…Or that Senator Obama is unqualified simply because of his race…This forum should be a place where issues can be discussed rationally and viewpoints shared in a civil manner…What is to be gained by starting my comments with “you liberals” or “you conservatives”? If I come on this forum in attack mode, then should I be surprised by the responses that I get from people? Call me old-fashioned and naive, but what happened to being proud to be an American? We live in a country in which we are free to express our opinions about our government without fear of censorship or retaliation by our government…Even as you read these words, our sons, daughters, brother, sisters, moms, and dads in our armed services are in America and abroad fighting to preserve the liberties that we so often take for granted…Can we not honor their legacies of service by treating each other with respect? Having differences of opinion does not mean that we have to be at each other’s throats…It is a sad commentary that it took a horrible tragedy – September 11, 2001 – to make people start acting like Americans and forget about all of the perceived differences among us…And even that was short-lived…
September 2nd, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Thank you Ron for your thoughtful post.
September 2nd, 2008 at 10:51 pm
Alan,
If you’d only get that left eyebrow fixed. You know… pull it down out of your hairline and tape it, or staple it, or something. You’d look a lot less stupid. Not that you’d BE less stupid, but we all know that with uberliberals appearance is everything.
And your mouth, Alan. Fix that. Tape it shut. Stitch it up. Super glue the damned thing closed. Please. You’re an embarrassment to your profession any time you make noise with your mouth.
Your “makes my skin crawl” factor would go way down if you’ll just follow these two small bits of advice.
And being the generous fellow I am, I’ll give you one more free piece of advice. Learn to sign. Take the time to do it. I don’t think the hearing impaired will sue you although I can’t promise they won’t. Then go a step further and learn to sign while juggling.
Eyebrow down, lips together, hands moving so rapidly that they’d probably make a humming sound, twelve dozen (you know, a gross) balls in the air at once, you’d be good for at least a laugh and a round of applause. That, Alan, is a lot more than you’re good for now.
September 2nd, 2008 at 11:04 pm
It’s a shot at her hypocritic beliefs. It wasn’t a condemnation from a liberal, it was a fact pointing out an obvious flaw in Palins system of “morals”. And her 17 year-old is following in her footsteps (that’s not a judgement, just a fact. And quite frankly most of us “liberals” don’t care too much about child out of wedlock – she’s a hypocrit).
For someone who preaches abstinence before marriage and is against birth control and contraceptives (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/01/palin-backed-abstinence-education/?eref=ib_politicalticker, she certainly has not proven her convictions right in this lifetime.
Also, I do not want that person to inflict her ideals and beliefs on me, my family, friends, or children. She very well could if McCain drops down during his term. That is terrifying.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:17 am
I’ll tell about you to Sean Hanity…..
September 3rd, 2008 at 9:52 am
No wonder USA is going to the dogs with the kind of hatred for black people. Ignorance is not bliss. The republicans need to open thier eyes and see that diversity is the key to change and prosperity. Palin is a governor for a state of 9000 people, get real, acquired a passport only recently, pregnant out of wedlock, and has a daughter in the same condition. Are we thinking of America or are we thinking of race. How can people sit there and applaud mcain for this crazy move, shame on him and on the people who applaud this dangerous move.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:06 pm
OLDLEFTY, The phrase is “I couldN’T care less” NOT “I could care less”. Your phrase means you actually care which contradicts the purpose of the phrase meaning you don’t care at all. People please think about what you say/write. Mistakes happen to everyone BUT saying/writing the same mistake repeatedly just shows that you don’t care or aren’t intelligent enough to know the difference. Also “irregardless” isn’t a word. It is a double negative. What next ? disirregardlesslierly ? come on.
BTW, liberals are in fact the most phobic anti people there are, they just try really hard to hide it. They are first in censorship of opposing views. Liberals are the first to interject ad hominim attacks. Liberals are the first to outrite name call like children. Liberals use their “feelings” as justification for facts. And the most obvious hallmark of all concerning liberals is “END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS”. They are the complete manifestation of SITUATIONAL ETHICS and REVISIONISM!
Liberals are dust in the wind, blowing here and there with all sorts of irrational ideals and inconsistency. Liberals are hypocrites of the highest order!
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Why is Sarah Palin a member of a seccessionist group, Alaska Independence Party? The credo of the group is a disdain for the United States and the U.S. Constitution. They are intent on dividing the Union of States. Seems to me that she is unfit for command or to be a heartbeat away from it.
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:08 pm
@ suntan
If Barrack’s mom’s a whore, then what does that make Palin’s daughter? People can’t control how or whom they are born to. Suntan, I think Satan is a better name for you.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:46 pm
The point is that Palin is against sex education and for abstinance only, a failure that makes her daughter’s pregnancy and her own before wedlock child an issue. Her policies directly interfere with a families right to make decisions without government interference. It’s an issue because Palin has made it an issue. It also makes her a hypocrit. Obama’s mother was never in office and never criticized others for early or before marriage pregnancy; Palin did and does!
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:56 pm
After Palin’s speech, I loved seeing the young Levi on the RNC stage chewing gum…..Karl Rowe should have been there to tell him to ’spit’ it out.
Will the ‘dirt’ never end on this woman? With her on the ticket, I have now decided to vote for Obama/Biden and I am a registered Republican and normally vote Republican except for Bush the second time around.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:58 am
Did palin forget to introduce her future son-in-law? He had a look on his face like “why am I even here, please someone shoot me”.
September 4th, 2008 at 2:18 am
alin is awesome, just awesome.
Perhaps her first son was such a stud he was born a couple weeks early out of SAFETY concerns. That same son who you just trashed for politics sake is already serving his country, risking his life to free 50 million people in Iraq and Afghanistan and bring security, democracy and Christian values throughout the heart of the Middle East while his mom is back home trying to reduce our dependency on that area. That’s change we can believe in.
September 4th, 2008 at 7:36 am
uh, that would be PALN is awesome (not that Alan isn’t too), lol. …and “valdar”, nobody believes you are Republican. I’m on this blog to post a Traceback –why are you here? Astroturfing for the DNC? lol
September 4th, 2008 at 7:38 am
Free Nevada,
We are using out military to spread Christian values? What does that mean? Which Christian values are we spreading?
September 4th, 2008 at 7:38 am
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_track_palin’s_date_of_birth
September 4th, 2008 at 8:11 am
LS,
Give me a break, who care’s if Track was conceived out of wedlock or not. Sure sex out of wedlock is a sin, talking back to your parents is a sin, etc… Christians believe that we all sin, not that we are all perfect (Jesus was the one who was perfect, not the rest of us).
This is a non issue that proves nothing and arguing it only gives valid ammo to the right that the left is unfairly attacking her family. Please stop it.
September 4th, 2008 at 8:17 am
This just shows how hypocrital repubs and conservatives are: Preach one thing and do the opposite!!! Republicans act as if they are the annointed custodians of all that is moral, and then they go off and do exactly what they say others shouldn’t do. Well there you go! If they didn’t act all holier than thou all the time i couldn’t give a rat’s posterior that Palin eloped to cover up the fact that she was as loose as her daughter currently is! UM CARA is right, it shouldn’t be an issue. But with Repubs being the moral standard-bearers for us all, they ARE making it!!
September 4th, 2008 at 8:58 am
I really don’t think it shows anything of the sort, and I think it is wrong to refer to her or her daughter as ‘loose’.
Many Christians, and many non Christians believe pre martial sex is wrong. Very few (none?) Christians believe that humans are perfect. Thus if they fall short in some moral belief that they hold, it does not make them hypocritical, it makes them human, and less than God – perfectly fitting in with their beliefs.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:20 am
Who cares, like someone in your family never had a baby out of wed-lock get a life.
September 4th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
[...] Ms Palin was pregnant when she herself got married. She eloped to marry her current husband. Alan Colmes
September 4th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Question.
Do you think Trig is actually her daughter’s baby?
or
Do you think SP tried to self-abort her baby by her insane actions prior to the alleged birth of her baby?
September 4th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
If SP was indeed preggers BEFORE wedlock, it certainly would explain the actions of her daughter.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Funpundit,
1. No, I think Palin’s kids are all her own.
2. No, that is a sick accusation.
3. No it wouldn’t, and leave her kid alone for crying out loud.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Leave her kid alone? The way McCain left Chelsea Clinton alone?
September 4th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Personal matters off limits? Off limits to whom? The American Public? Foreign agents, Pressure groups, Blackmailers? Remember the concept “Caesar’s wife must be above suspicion.” These people chose to be public figures, elected by the public. They are no longer private citizens. They now are trying to direct our destiny. We must know them intimately.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Funpundit,
So this kid deserves this attention because McCain made a tasteless joke about another kid, that is your logic?
September 4th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
The issue is legitimate if you are espousing right-wing conservative Christian values. It doesn’t apply to Obama because he doesn’t espouse those values, but Sara Palin does. It shows the utter hypocrisy and out right lying perpetuated by the right-wing fanatics, that when they are called on violating their own values and ethics, they always want to hold everybody but themselves accountable to those values. Should you not be held to a higher standard, not a lesser standard regarding the values you express, than someone who has a different set of beliefs? It is similar to the issue of when the right wing accused Jimmy Carter of being less than patriotic and cowardly regarding the Iranian Hostage crisis back in the 1979-1980, but when their macho hero Ronald Reagan (who unlike Carter, avoided actually going to war during WW II) a couple of years later had his flunkies sell weapons to the terrorist government of Iran in order to provide arms to another terrorist group named the Sandinistas (who attacked hospital and schools, butchering doctors, patients, and school children), the right-wingers were all in a tizzy, because some people, (not particularly the media) wanted to hold old Ron “the bomb” accountable to his so-called principles. It is the right wing that makes me sick, because their standard belief is that everyone is accountable to the right wing conservative belief system, but themselves
The right-wing conservatives had a word for a woman who had a child out of wedlock, and then her child had a child out of wedlock. She was called a whore and her children were called bastards. So, basically Sara Palin by her own belief system is a whore, who had a bastard, who was a whore, who had a bastard and why aren’t she and the other right-wingers breaking out their scarlet letters.
These are not my beliefs; they are the right-wing conservative Christian beliefs, if you believe in holding people accountable to their own belief system.
September 5th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Alan, I watch H&C every night, and thought that even though you were a whiny, petulant, knee jerk liberal, you were basically a decent human being.
Boy, was I wrong! And the disgusting comments on this blog show just how vulgar, hypocritical and stupid your like minded friend are!
September 5th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
not that it matters to me personally if she was preggo before she got married – but isn’t SHE the one that wants to remove sex education and preach abstinence until marriage. that will be not once, but TWICE, that her family will prove this to be ineffectual.
want more facts on palin? http://www.boycottpalin.com
September 5th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Yes she eloped before she was married. And yes she has had five children. The Leftys are mad because she has done all of this without leaching off the system.
September 5th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
elaborate response – affirmation – http://austindancer.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/palin-is-it/
September 6th, 2008 at 3:28 am
What makes me laugh about the argument that You have eery right to rub their noses in it for “Family Values” is a joke. I am a Registered Democrat and I am turned off by Obama. He’s flipped on many issues and has alot of “Plans” but they are so very vague that I can’t in good conscience vote for him, because the main problem I have with him is Wright, Jackson, Emil Jones. If the guy who brought him to Christianity hates white America (his words)and listened to this racist nonsense for 20 years, gives him a pass after it hits youtube and then finally cuts him after more dribble in the press, then it says something about the man. If this is all the Democrats have, we should ask why an elected Speaker of the House would lay a wreath honoring the war dead at Hiroshima! If it wasn’t for the fact we bombed Japan and ended the war, many of you wouldn’t be here today.
September 6th, 2008 at 9:46 am
God Said “If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. II Chronicles 7:14.
It is a time for us ALL to Pray and unight and God will hear our prayers and answer his promise.
September 6th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Here! here! Mick Jones. Well said.
September 6th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
The GOP – the party of family values*
*only when convenient – out of marriage pregnancies notwithstanding if you are on a presidential ticket of a campaign on life support.
September 6th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
She is one big, mouthed hippacrite. family values? What else is she hiding?
September 7th, 2008 at 1:32 am
It is Palin that made this an issue, not Alan Colmes. He merely pointed out the relevant facts.
She opposes actual reproductive health education and, instead, proposes abstinence until marriage education. She wants to tell the rest of us how we should live our lives while reserving for herself (and her daughter) the right to do otherwise. Simple hypocrisy.
It would be no different than McCain supporting legislation to outlaw adultery and divorce.
September 7th, 2008 at 8:21 am
No Erik, Sarah didn’t make it an issue.
You see, Lefties.. this is where you always fail. You think everyone is as rigid and inflexible and set-in-stone as you are.
This election has N O T H I N G to do with social value. I mean , maybe you think that’s on the priorty list, but those of us in the real world have social cultural issues on the bottom of the list.
We have money sytem crisis, iran crisis, russia crisis, fuel crisis, debt crisis, venzeulla crisis (watch), Islamic jihad crisis
So while you folks launch your thermonuclear attack on people because of abortion.. you have any idea how much damage you’re doing to yourselves? and for no reason.
I knew from the first false digusting rumors you guys started to spread that you would pay a price and you are… polls say more than half the people know the press will try to destroy to her… so they’re going to compensate.. and not pay attention to the press.
Right now the reporters are crying like a baby to interview her… as far as the base is concerned.. the reporters can burn in hell.
September 7th, 2008 at 8:38 am
Yeah right. And you Righties were the first to start gleefully waving copies of the Enquirer after they outed Edwards.
Now, it turns out, with their new street cred, they have outed Palin on her extramarital affair with her fellow council-member and business partner of her husband. I have to give her husband credit though, as he apparently decided to reconcile with her for the sake of the family. Her lover’s wife divorced him. Anybody have a look at the divorce court documents yet?
Makes you wonder, though, if she would have considered an abortion, had her beau knocked her up? Hey, wait a minute! Those DNA paternity tests are pretty accurate these days. Her middle kids don’t look an awful lot like her husband.
Oh, and don’t get me wrong. I actually encourage this sort of sexual behavior. I also encourage the use of condoms. I mean, some of my best friends are whores. It’s the hypocrisy that sticks in my craw.
Nice job vetting John. Speaks to your judgment.
September 7th, 2008 at 10:43 am
Thanks for pointing that out Alan. If she was married before getting pregnant, this would make two babies that she delivered early.And yet she goes flying off to Texas for speech at 8 months pregnant. Yeah right! They are all so phony. What kind of God do they worship that honors lying and hypocrisy?
September 7th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
I was truly leaning toward McCain when Hillary lost. Now I’m going to have to vote for Obama/Biden. I absolutely cannot vote for Palin. Everything I read about her is so controversial. I feel like the repblicans are trying to tread water until Nov. 4. They are hoping to supress anything negative until the election is over. But I beleive there is a lot to be discovered about Ms. Palin. So far it is confirmed or alledged that she: 1)Was a member of the Alaskan Independent Party (her husband confirmed) 2) She fired the Safety Commissioner unfairly 3) She gave his replacement a $10,000 severence package after 11 days of work 4)she built a $15m sportsplex on someone else’s land 5)She claims to have rejected the “Bridge to Nowhere” only after supporting it. And on and on. Not to mention that I question her judgement as a mother. Seems she exploits her children to score politcal points. I never thought I’d say this, but Obama’s looking better and better….Polar Bears for Obama!!!!
September 7th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Lindsey: I wonder how it is you can even trust anything you are reading. you have to be aware of the massive defamation campaign against her.
But i think anyone who goes for Obama because they’re unsure about some bizare email they have, is probably already part of Obama. Because i dont see what the attraction to that would be.
Here’s the current smears list:
1.Yes, she is Governor of Alaska. No, she’s not the Lieutenant Governor. No, she’s not currently Mayor of Wasilla. Yes, she was Mayor of Wasilla, some years ago.
2.Yes, as Governor of Alaska, she’s the Commander in Chief of the Alaska National Guard. And yes, her professional military subordinate is quite impressed with her in that role.
3.And yes, the New York Times says the job of Governor of Alaska is one of the harder, and more powerful, jobs in state government.
4.Yes, there are people in Alaska who think she’s too liberal.
5.Yes, she did giggle when someone called Lyda Green a “bitch.” Yes, Lyda Green is a cancer survivor. Yes, it was the same Lyda Green who tried to force a scheduling conflict that would make Palin miss her son’s high school graduation. Yes, this would also be the Lyda Green who complained no one had asked her about Palin during the vetting process.
6.Yes, she did push for and approve the Wasilla Sports Center. Yes, it did cost a lot of money. (People keep saying $20 million, that article says $14.5 million, but then they also added a $1.2 million dollar food service/kitchen piece. This year, after Palin was out of office as Mayor.) Yes, the city went into debt to do it (how did you buy your house, bunkie?) and raised the city sales tax from 2 percent to 2.5 percent to pay for it. Yes, the city is paying it off early. Yes, there is an ongoing dispute about title (following a struggle with the Nature Conservancy and another buyer. And yes, at the time it was built, Wasilla had a Federal judge’s decision that they had title to the land.
7.Yes, she did want authority to have wolves culled from the air, because they were taking too many moose and caribou. Which people hunt for food in the back country in Alaska. No, she isn’t shooting them herself. I mean, not that she couldn’t, but I’m sure she doesn’t have time. (Thanks to bluemerlin in the comments.)
8.No, the Downs baby (Trig) isn’t Bristol’s kid, and no, the kid wasn’t born with Downs because (a) Palin flew on an airplane (b) went home to have the baby after an amniotic leak (c) because he was the result of incest between Todd Palin and Bristol.
9.No, Track (the kid who is leaving for Iraq) didn’t join the NG because he was a drug addict. He may have joined the NG because he was tired of people saying his Mom was getting him into the good hockey leagues. (Yes, that one was original reporting. I’ve got sources in Wasilla.)
10.No, Willow and Piper aren’t named for witches on TV. Among other things, Willow was born before Buffy came on TV, and Piper was born before Charmed.
11.Yes, Trig’s name may be misspelled. Isn’t it usually “Tryg” as in “Trygve”? In any case, I doubt he’s named for the Secretary General of the UN (1948-1952), either. But at least that was before he was born, unlike the others.(Thanks to Chris, via his blog
12.Yes, it appears that she has a Big Dipper tattooed on her ankle. She lost a bet.
13.No, she’s never been in any porn as far as anyone can find (and God knows I get enough google hits on those very topics.) I would think the Big Dipper tattoo would be a giveaway.
14.No, no one seems to be able to even find swimsuit pictures of her from her beauty queen days; God knows I looked. The bikini pictures that are around are photoshopped, just like the Vogue cover I have up.
15.No she wasn’t a member of the (wild-eyed libertarian) Alaska independence Party, although her husband once was
16.No, neither the (Canadian) National Post, nor Marc Armbinder at the Atlantic have troubled themselves to issue a correction. Yes, the New York Times did finally correct their story of September 1 — on September 5. This was after Elizabeth Bumiller was quoted by Howard Kurtz as saying she was “completely confident about the story.” Yes, that was after the New York Times’s source retracted the story. Yes, this should embarrass the Times, Bumiller, and Howard Kurtz. No, there have been no signs of embarrassment.
17.No, she was never a Pat Buchanan supporter; even when Buchanan claims she was, she was on the board of Steve Forbes’a campaign in Alaska.
18.No, she’s not anti-semitic. In fact, she has an Israeli flag in her office. (Contrary to popular belief, the usual Evangelical thinks Israel has a right to exist, granted by God.)
19.No, I don’t think she’s being “indoctrinated by Lieberman and AIPAC as we speak”; I don’t get the feeling that being indoctrinated is something that Palin does well.
20.Yes, it seems unlikely that she’s going to be in hiding for the next two weeks seeing as she’s been in rallies twice in the last two days. Or at least it’s going to be real rough, given that she has three media interviews scheduled today (6 September) alone.
21.Yes, it does appear that Palin’s local pastor preached about an end time when God will judge everyone, even Wasilla, Alaska, and the United States. Duh. This is called the Book of Revelations, and while I don’t believe it personally, I don’t see it as a disqualifier for the hundred million or so Baptists, Methodists, Evangelicals, Episcopalians, Catholics, Assembly of God, Presbyterian, Lutherans (traditional and Missouri Synod), African Methodist, and so on Christians in the US.
23.Yes, I do sometimes wonder about the state of Andrew’s health.
23.No, she’s doesn’t believe that the Iraq War was directed by God. Yes, she did pray that proceeding with the war was God’s will: “they should pray ‘that our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God, that’s what we have to make sure we are praying for, that there is a plan, and that plan is God’s plan.’” (Ever hear the phrase “Not my will, but Thine, be done”?) Yes, this apparently freaks some people right out.
24.No, Buchanan doesn’t support her now; in fact he’s supporting Obama. (Buchanan did think her speech was amazing, but then so do 80 percent of the people who saw it.) Or maybe not. Buchanan sure doesn’t like McCain though.
26.Yes, she was apparently pregnant when she got married
26.No, so far there’s no confirmation she had an affair while she was married, and they’ve denied it pretty strongly. No, she wouldn’t be the first Christian woman who got a little on the side, if it were true.
27.No, she wasn’t named as a co-respondent in a divorce; there’s no evidence she had an affair with her husbands’ business partner. The partner tried to have his divorce records sealed because he was being harrassed by journalists who used them to get his phone number.
28.Yes, barring immaculate conception virgin birth (whatever), Bristol appears to have had sex with her fiancee. No, Bristol didn’t receive only “abstinence-only” sex ed.
29.Yes, I have it on reliable report that Sarah Levi’s mom has been heard screaming “Way to go Levi!” at her future son-in-law son. No, it doesn’t appear to have been when Bristol broke the news to her family.
Note: I originally understood this story to be about Sarah, not Levi’s mom, in the context of hockey games. As such, it’s shouldn’t be in a Sarah Palin Rumors story, but I like the story too much to delete it.
30.yes, her 17 year old daughter is pregnant; no, the baby’s father is not an eighth grader; no, having sex at 16 is not statutory rape in Alaska. And no, there’s no way that a 17 year old can be 5 months pregnant as a result of having sex before she was 16. Learn to count for God’s sakes.
31.yes, she did fire the public safety guy — but he said in the Anchorage paper that, for the record, she never, and no one else in her administration ever, tried to make him fire her ex-brother-in-law
32.and yes, the state trooper (her sister’s ex-husband) she was worried about did: tase her 10 year old nephew; drive his state patrol car while drinking or drunk; did threaten to “bring her down”; and did threaten to murder her father and sister if they dared to get an attorney to help with the divorce.
35.yes, the state trooper was suspended when he was put under a court protective order
35.no, the trooper wasn’t fired
36.yes, she did fire the Wasilla Chief of Police as Mayor; yes, it was because he was lying to the City Council.
37.Yes, she did try to cut her own salary as Mayor by $4000 a year; yes, she had voted against the $4000 a year raise while on the City Council.
37.No, she didn’t cut funding for unwed mothers; yes, she did increase it by “only” 354 percent instead of 454 percent, as part of a multi-year capital expenditures program. No, the Washington Post doesn’t appear to have corrected their story. Even after this was pointed out in the comments on the story.
39.No, she didn’t cut special needs student funding; yes, she did raise it by “only” 175 percent.
40.yes, she did try, clearly unsuccessfully, to get Bristol married off to her fiancee before the story came out
40.yes, she did ask the librarian if some books could be withdrawn because of being offensive; no, they couldn’t; yes, it was “rhetorical”, at least as was reported contemporaneously in 1996[1] ; yes she did threaten to fire the librarian a month later; no, that wasn’t over the books thing but instead over administrative issues; no, the librarian wasn’t fired either; yes, the librarian was a big supporter of one of her political opponents; yes, the librarian was also the girlfriend of the Chief of police mentioned above; no, this is not the first time in the history of civilization that someone has been threatened with being fired over a political dispute
41.No the list of books she wanted to ban that’s being passed around isn’t real; among other things, it includes a number of books published after her time in office there.
42.No, that hasn’t actually deterred people from claiming it really is true even if the list isn’t correct. For example:
“This list might not in fact reflect the books Sarah Palin wanted banned. As more than one person in Comments has pointed out, some of them were not published when Palin was in office. It is my hope that the mainstream media will not let this story drop and that at some point an actual list will surface. The very thought of having someone who once advocated book-banning possibly occupying one of the highest offices of our land fills me with profound dread. It should fill you with dread too.”
44.No, I don’t understand why a fake list is supposed to fill me with dread, either.
44.no, it wasn’t won’t be [bad tense, hasn't happened yet] a shotgun wedding; Bristol and Levi been engaged for a good while according to Levi’s mother. It was either an accident or just an unconventional order.
46.yes, she’s an was an Assembly of God Holy Roller. No, she doesn’t attend an AoG church now. Yes, she did leave the AoG because they were getting too weird for her.
46.No, she’s not anti-Mormon. No, not all AoG churches are anti-Mormon. (AoG is even more hard-core about allowing each pastor and congregation to make their own decisions than the Baptists are.) (Thanks to AnonAmom in the comments.)
49.No, she’s not from another planet. No, I haven’t actually heard that one yet, but you wait. Okay, I have now heard it.
50.yes, she apparently believes in some variant of Intelligent Design
50.no, she didn’t try to force the schools to teach it; she said if someone brought it up, it was an appropriate subject for debate.
51.No, she doesn’t believe in “abstinence only” education. Yes, she thinks abstinence is an effective way of preventing pregnancy. Duh. Yes, she believes kids should learn about condom use in schools.
54.Yes, she did smoke marijuana, when it was legal in Alaska. Yes, she apparently did inhale.
55.yes, she kills animals and eats them, and wears their skins
56.yes, she was a beauty contest contestant
57.yes, she was once a sportscaster
57.yes, she has a college degree in Journalism, but I won’t hold that against her, as she seems to have found honest work as well
58.yes, she sometimes wears her hair up; no that’s not a “beehive”
59.yes, her husband is Not A White Person (he’s a Yup’ik; an Eskimo but not an Inuit as my Inuit cousins have taken some pains to explain)
60.yes, she has on occasion, as Mayor, tried to get money from the federal government.
60.yes, she did finally turn down the money for the bridge. Yes, that meant changing her mind about it.
61.yes, she was vetted extensively, not just in three days — I’ve got links to press reports about people coming to Wassila on 29 May, and we had her on our Veepstakes at PJM from the first day we ran it.
62.yes, she want to a bunch of colleges before getting a degree. No, that’s not illegal. Yes, she seems to have made something of herself anyway.
63.no, they didn’t talk to a lot of the R’s power structure during the vetting; that probably has to do with the fact that she beat them in elections and sent a bunch of them to jail.
64.Yes, Sarah Palin’s acceptance speech was written by a speechwriter. Duh. No, none of Obama’s, McCain’s, nor Biden’s speeches were impromptu off the cuff things either.
65.Yes, she did put the Governors plane on eBay. No, that’s not how it was finally sold. Yes, McCain did say it wrong. Bad McCain.
65.No, Sarah Palin doesn’t have such control of Alaskans that people are afraid to say bad things about her. (What, are you nuts? Look at this list.) No, I don’t think it’s likely that she called Obama “Sambo”. (Good God, man, I’m ten years older than she and I barely remember “Little Black Sambo.”) Yes, it seems unlikely to me that she’s be real racist and marry a Yup’ik (or a part Yup’ik.) But yes, people are capable of amazing things. Yes, I’m sure there are people who don’t like her — I’ve talked with some myself. And no, I don’t think this waitress would have been thrilled to be called an “aboriginal”. And yes, if she called Hillary a “bitch”, I’m pretty confident is wasn’t the first time anyone in politics has said that.
66.No, she’s not a “global warming denier”, and when the crush dies down remind me to explain why the very phrasing “global warming denier” is anti-scientific, anti-intellectual, and a clear sign of a desire to impose your beliefs by coercion. But in the mean time, while I do believe that she has expressed some skepticism that warming is wholly human-caused, the existence of the Alaska Climate Change Sub-Cabinet and the Alaska Climate Change Strategy work demonstrate that she’s considering the problem and has brought together people more expert than she to advise her.
69.Yes, Todd Palin did have a DUI. Twenty-two years ago. Get a grip.
69.No, Sarah Palin’s brother isn’t in jail. No matter what the commenter at Anderson Cooper’s page says. (Thanks to Galynn in comments.)
70.Yes, Sarah Palin’s pastor apparently does believe that gays can “repent” and be cured of homosexuality. No, believe it or not, even fundamentalist Christians don’t have to believe every litle thing their pastor believes. Yes, Palin seems to be more libertarian about this.
0.Yes, contrary to press reports, Sarah Palin’s mother-in-law plans to vote for her and the R ticket (on Inside Edition this evening.)
1.No, the fact that some 17 year old was arrested for malicious mischief at the right time doens’t mean Track Palin was. Goddamn, Josh, have you no shame at all?
September 7th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
So, what’s your point? The vast majority of your list are known as straw men. Most brought up by the Republicans first. Then refuted as if the evil LIBERAL media brought them up.
If you cull through them carefully (you have to do that with long laundry lists) you will find a few that merit examination.
The woman is anti-choice, supports abstinence only sex-ed rather than actual reproductive health education, supports prayer in schools, supports banning books, supports earmarks, hires lobbyists for state employment in field for which they lobbied, has a long record of firing non-elected government employees for disloyalty.
These, for me, are issues of policy. They are artfully tucked in among so-called “smears” to diffuse their impact.
Hopefully, we members of the “Liberal intellectual elite” can separate these issues from the rhetorical picture created by the GOP, and expose them for the extreme, far from the mainstream, positions that they are. And, of course, they hypocrisy of she who espouses them.
September 8th, 2008 at 3:32 am
I have to point out that it doesn’t really seem possible that this was a shotgun wedding in the normal sense of the term. She may have been pregnant but she could hardly have known it for sure after about one month.
September 8th, 2008 at 5:19 am
Sorry. Simply untrue.
Most chemical tests for pregnancy look for the presence of the beta subunit of hCG or human chorionic gonadotropin in the blood or urine. hCG can be detected in urine or blood after implantation, which occurs six to twelve days after fertilization.
Plenty of time to miss your period (for most women about 28 days), test, and slip off to elope. I don’t think anybody had a shotgun to their heads, as they did it alone.
None the less, that isn’t the point. The point is that she wants to force “abstinence only” sex-ed, rather than comprehensive, scientifically supported, effective, reproductive health education.
Look at teenage birthrates (and thus increases in abortion) in this country. It took a couple of years before the “abstinence only” programs promoted and enforced by the Bush administration, started to have an impact. Sometimes there is a statistical lag, as in it took a couple of years before the kids taught this crappola decided they were ready to have sex. But we will be paying for it for years.
“Abstinence only” didn’t work for Sarah, and it didn’t work for her daughter. Plain and simple.
Next? Roe v. Wade. Get the girls knocked up, then force them to carry it to term. But, some still won’t want to do so, and will take desperate measures. The anti-choice folks are so fond of posting pictures of aborted fetuses. Why not a few of 13 year old girls dead from sepsis from a perforated uterus?
Here, this quote from McNasty’s very mouth, in 1999:
“Certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations.”
A flip? A flop? Maybe just an evolved position? Oh, wait, pandering comes to mind. You see, McNasty, in his old incarnation of “Maverick” read the same facts and figures I did. Now, for the sake of getting elected, he’s willing to push millions of teenage girls into hopeless poverty or allow them to risk horrible deaths through desperate measures.
GOP… The party of morality. But what sort of morals?
September 8th, 2008 at 7:17 am
I am amazed at the so called Hillary supporters who now want to jump to McCain/Palin. You may not be crazy about Obama; I’m not. But you think McCain is the answer? Have you not lived through the past eight years? How can you think 4 more years with McBush would be better than a Democratic administration? Yeah, Palin’s a woman. But she’s an anti-choice, anti-sex education, anti-environment creationist. She thinks the war in Iraq is our implementation of God’s will. Sound familiar? You wanted Hillary? Palin is 180 degrees from Hillary. McCain as an agent of change? His pitch sounds almost exactly the same as Bush’s during the campaign 8 years ago. You may be pissed that Hillary didn’t win; you may not like Obama. But don’t lose sight of the bigger picture here. We cannot take 4 more years of Republican rule. They’re not going to work for you; they’re going to work for their corporate clients, just like they always do. A Democratic administration, and 60 seats in the senate are the best hope we have of changing the disastrous course we’ve been on these past eight years. Obama’s not perfect; none of them are. But don’t elect John McCain.
September 8th, 2008 at 8:16 am
Interesting that for energy policy they want to do everything, ‘drill, alternative energy, conserve, …’ but for a problem like teen pregnancy it’s all ‘Just say NO’.
What’s wrong with teaching abstinence AND other reproductive health education for those one or two teenagers who for some reason have sex.
September 8th, 2008 at 8:18 am
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September 8th, 2008 at 8:35 am
According to Sarah and her friends, baby Trig was not due for four more weeks – which is why she traveled to Texas. He, too, came early.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:26 am
As do most Downs Syndrome babies. Unlike most healthy 19 year old privates in the U.S. Army.
And about:
“What’s wrong with teaching abstinence AND other reproductive health education for those one or two teenagers who for some reason have sex.”
It isn’t “…one or two teenagers who for some reason have sex.” Over 60% of female high school seniors have had sex. More like two out of three.
Bush and friends (including Palin) have been pushing “abstinence only” sex-ed for years. Doing the same thing, over and over, and each time expecting a different result? Definition of insanity.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:36 am
Who the hell cares what she did 20 years ago. Obama never did a damn thing.
September 10th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Children have ZERO control and/or influence over their parents prior to their birth. Involved parents must have influence over their children.
The only concern about Palin’s daughter being pregnant is that Sarah lacked the judgement to forego pushing Bristol into the national spotlight for her own political gain rather than being there to nurture/support and encourage her. This is unfortunately a pattern with Palin….Returning to work when Trig was only three days old and being on the campaign trail instead of with her son prior to his deployment to Iraq.
I am thrilled that Palin is pro-life, however that requires sacrifice of self that I haven’t seen her display.
Barrack is an intelligent, inspiring, moral leader who has the potential to transform the entire world IF there are enough intelligent voters who don’t have a need to feel superior to the president they elect. We’ve all seen where low IQ presidents get us.
Do you really want to elect a man who ranked 894 out of 899 at the naval academy that his Admiral father pulled strings to get him into???
I want to encourage and support people of inferior intellect, not elect them as president of our country.
September 10th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
[...] is full of salacious details about her first child. Even Alan Colmes (Hannity & Colmes) is carrying this: Palin and her husband were married August 29, 1988, their first son, Track, was born April 20, [...]
September 11th, 2008 at 8:07 am
I’m not pro- or against Palin, but you guys need to learn to THINK. If she got married at one month or less pregnant (less is more liikely, looking at the numbers), SHE WOULDN’T EVEN KNOW SHE WAS PREGNANT! So there is no way she’d be getting married for that purpose. Looking at the time frames, it is more likely she conceived on their wedding night, and the baby came on the early side, just as did her most recent one. She’s an early dropper. So what. I dig her way more than Biden, the longest-serving “congressman” CFR puppet crusty fogey. Chances are McCain will fall off soon, and I hope he does, because it is painful that a vote for Palin is a vote for McCain. I think a 3rd Party vote will make the best statement of voter dissatisfaction, even if Barr isn’t the best possible candidate, at least he has the kahunas to utter the word “Constitution” !!!
September 11th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Given the dates. It would seem Sarah was likely about 33 weeks pregnant at delivery. I’m a Registered Nurse. A baby typically takes 40 weeks or approximately 10 months. . .. Now I think Sarah is great and plan on voting for McCain but Alan is definitely right here. .. Sarah was knocked up and likely that precipitated the elopement. . .
September 11th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
And, I’ve posted this previously. However, as MELSHAE apparently didn’t read it.
Most chemical tests for pregnancy look for the presence of the beta subunit of hCG or human chorionic gonadotropin in the blood or urine. hCG can be detected in urine or blood after implantation, which occurs six to twelve days after fertilization.
But, the fact that she could easily have known, and most probably did (hence the elopement), is superfluous. The point is that she has political positions like supporting “abstinence until marriage” sex education. It is hypocritical.
Support for this worthless program is not, in and of itself, sufficient to sway my vote. It is merely on one of many such.
If elected, this intolerant, inexperienced, deceitful, woman would be a heartbeat away from the Presidency. A 73 year old President who has had four bouts of Melanoma. I won’t chance that, and I’m hoping a majority of Americans will agree with me in November.
September 12th, 2008 at 5:06 am
I don’t know how you people count, but 9/29/88 to 4/20/89 is NOT 38 weeks, it’s 29 weeks!!!
September 14th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
With so many honorable, qualified Republican women, I agree that Sarah Palin is a weak choice for a running mate. Her life is a reflection of “do what I say,” rather than “do what I do.” Her own out-of-wedlock pregnancy followed by a rushed elopement set the example for Bristol – hardly cherished family values. Hopefully the rest of the Palin record is revealed before the election and people of faith read the facts rather than listening to propaganda.
September 15th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
I received an email of a video made by an acquaintance of Kristal Palin, saying he is the father of her unborn child. He was visiting Wasilla earlier this year, met Kristal, dated her, had sex with her and she became pregnant. He knew she was seeing someone else though. Perhaps that is the reason Kristal refused to marry right away, even though Palin tried to force her, and Palin probably thought this could be hidden until after elections. But the uh-ooh will appear in around 4 months. No one will be able to hide that little something anymore. Thought someone would know this for sure.
September 15th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
I wonder why Palin’s son was made to enlist in the armed forces. Word is that he was made to enlist because he had a drug problem. These consequences are experienced by an absentee parent. Alaska is the new frontier and education is not a priority. Palen isn’t smart, although charismatic, McCain isn’t charismatic, but comical, and neither is he smart. Do we need two dumb and dumbers together to imitate dubya?
September 15th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Oh, forgot to mention a little something about Kristal’s baby. That video was made by a minority who claimed to have known Kristal intimately. I hope this will not be a “truth”, because you definitely can’t hide that one.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
i wonder what sort of mental derangement alzia has.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Alzina makes a question based on an erroneous assumption:
I wonder why Palin’s son was made to enlist in the armed forces.
Nobody made him enlist. We have a voluntary armed force.
Alzina then spews:
Word is that he was made to enlist because he had a drug problem. These consequences are experienced by an absentee parent.
I have no idea if he had a drug problem, but plenty of kids with excellent parents develop drug problems. And leave her family alone, anyway.
She is running for V.P., not running to be your mommy.
September 15th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
For the poster above who claims Track was born “around 37 weeks,” thereby suggesting there was no premarital sex, even if Track was conceived on the wedding night, his birth was 33.5 weeks later (not 37). The reason this is relevant is because Palin wants only abstinence taught in the schools, yet she and her teenage daughter both became pregnant out of wedlock. It’s hard to preach what you didn’t practice, Sarah.
September 16th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
She does not do any of those things, Rob.
And I dare your stupid ignorant ass to prove it.
Brainwashed idiots prattling things that are false because of your bigotry.
September 16th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Dear God, will you people please hush up about premarital sex? It is completely irrelevant. Even if Palin thinks it is bad, a sin even, something people should not engage in, I have never seen any evidence that she claims she is perfect. It is not part of the Christian doctrine to think that a person could be perfect, so it is not even evidence of hypocrisy, as many seem to think.
This nonsense is doing nothing to further the cause of electing Obama, it is in fact helping McCain by making Palin appear sympathetic.
And, it is tacky.
Stop it.
Please.
September 16th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Thanks for super-sleuthing what conservatives have known about her since her introduction, Alan — absolutely brilliant! If only she’d aborted him then no one would know their dirty little non-secret. That’s the liberal mantra, right, Al?
September 16th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
I’m all for premarital sex.
It’s hypocrisy that stinks.
September 17th, 2008 at 4:53 am
[...] Opposes explicit sex-ed, even in the face of it clearly not working for her own daughter — or herself. [...]
September 17th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
This issue does matter because Palin has chosen a life as a public figure. She is an elected representative of the people. She is asking the American public to choose her for one of the most important offices in our land (we need to be able to examine her and determine what she stands for and what her character is). She is also an active right wing conservative. Her positions and her political actions have sought to restrict the rights of others based on her conservative values — showing no respect or consideration for others’ views. Through her actions and her policy positions (anti-choice, anti sex education, anti gay rights) she has said that she knows what is right for others and she is going to take action to impose her views on others. However, when you look at her own life, she is very possibly not living up to her own stated values. She says abstinence is the best option, yet she has not managed to instill this value or lesson in her own children and she was not able to hold to that standard herself. We are not judging her as a mother and we are not judging her daughter. We are judging Palin as a politician who says one thing and supports legislation for specific positions, but then lives her own life in a different fashion. She has a double standard. It is dishonorable.
September 18th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
Some of the comments say that Obama was conceived out of weblock. Now! How much control did he have in that event? As far as the Palin women go. Like mother like daugher. Neither one of them can wait to have sex (and shame on both for not using protection)before they got married. I don’t want my grandchildren by example that it’s OK to get pregnant before marrage. So now they are both just wonderful because they didn’t have abortions. The shame is that they should know about contraceptive. A 10 year old knows that.
This whole campain is nothing but excusives and lies.
God help us all if they win the election.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
I’m reposted this because I had some spelling errors.
Some of the comments say that Obama was conceived out of wedlock. Now! How much control did he have in that event? As far as the Palin women go. Like mother like daughter. Neither one of them can wait to have sex (and shame on both for not using protection) before they got married. I don’t want my grandchildren by example that it’s OK to get pregnant before marriage. So now they are both just wonderful because they didn’t have abortions. The shame is that they should know about contraceptive. A 10 year old knows that.
This whole campaign is nothing but excuses and lies.
God help us all if they win the election.
September 18th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
sometimes in life you just kinda get a blank, you brain stops and you end up asking the universe as a whole (silently and internally) ‘is this some kind of joke ?’
i’m a scot (as in, i live in scotland. part of the UK) i stumbled apon this page because, i have a passing interest in politics, and as it’s a US election year and who ever get’s the job is the ‘leader of the free world’ your election is still relevant to my life even tho i live thousands of miles away.
i can barely remember how i got here but i was following links starting at the major US tv outlets, via some newspapers and then on to this . . .
perhaps its the fact i’ve actually read it all when i shouldn’t have or perhaps it’s the fact i could really do with some sleep but i have to ask . . .
is this it ?
i mean really is this ‘the great experiment’ in action ?
are these all the arguments and issues you have ?
it’s all so weak and fundimentally shallow.
it’s depressing.
we (and this is in now way a claim of superiority just an illustration of difference), well we have manifestos.
we elect a party to govern based on those party manifesto and the ‘leader’, the personality is a by product of that.
tony blair for example (who you may have heard of) was not elected because he was tony blair but because he was the leader of ‘new labour’ and it was ‘new labour’ that the majority of the people wanted at the time.
the fact he was presented half decently on tv was largely irrelevant to the majority of voters in the UK.
do any of you people actually know what the people you’re discussing actually intend to do when they get into office ? or is it just all just a swirling ball of well meaning soundbites on prime time slots which fit your preexisting leanings and tit for tat news snippits of character assassination you can reuse to really get your teeth into ‘the enemy’ ?
is any it of even written down by the people (and partys) concerned for you to digest ?
raise your game
please
for all our sakes
you need to start paying attention to the big stuff rather than the sniping at each other about morality and personality.
imo a great many of our politicians and political structures are simply not equiped to deal with some of the challeges we all could be facing as a race in the next few decades.
if you, the people who choose the leader of the (free) world, keep chosing those leaders on the basis of who ‘gives good face’ and has the best PR team well…
god have mercy on us all.
September 19th, 2008 at 3:29 am
Well Mike I can’t say I’m an expert on the UK but I give the headlines a glance a few times a day and read some of the amazing stories of your nation’s rapid descent into chaos.
I dare say UK voters didn’t quite know what they were getting with New Labor either. No voter ever quite knows what the people in power are going to do in the future.
What I see that Tony Blair has done is:
- Set Great Britian upon the path of disunity
- Flooded your island with millions of Muslim immigrants (who want to take over your society)
- Surrendered more soverignity to that void in Brussels
- Ceded control over national security and immigration to “Human Rights” judges
Those are some of the larger scale issues.I dont want to speak about the smaller-scale issues though i get the impression that your youth are out of contorl.. that adults fear children. your society is in teh firm grip of politically correct muliticulturalism .. which is destroying your hertitage and replacing it with Muslim sensibilities.
And emmigration of native British is at an all time high.
All brought to you by the Left… the same Left that wants to do the same here.
There are many of us here who will not let them do it.
September 19th, 2008 at 5:16 am
To me it is not the fact that Palin and her daughter were both pregnant before marriage. It is the hyprocisy of her stand on “family values” and on sex ed in schools.
I know there are plenty of Dems that are or have been in the same situation but they are not calling for no sex ed or in your face with this family value mantra.
She needs to practice what she preaches. When it comes to her and Bristol I guess sex before marriage is okay. You Repubs know if this was Michelle Obama and her girls (if they were old enough) in that situation you would be all over her. Ask yourself that question. You know the truth even if you will not admit it. I just pray to God someone is teaching her other children the importance of abstinence. 17 is just too young to be pregnant and marry. They are still kids themselves.
September 19th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
What makes Palin stand out is exactly why so many of us imperfect people love her, she is NOT perfect nor is her family but they are willing to admit, take responsibility for, and keep moving forward with what they are dealt. An abortion could have easily hid the pregnancy, but they took the higher road and are dealing with it. LOTS of teens get pregnant, that is life. Nobody’s perfect but they are willing to take accountability for it. Focus on her professional ability to chair the VP… you are motivating people to rally behind her to overcome her challenges and succeed anyway, because we wouldn’t want ourselves or children to be so cruelly judged.
September 19th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
What makes her “stand out” is that she is completely unqualified for the job she is seeking, is dishonest, hypocritical, and corrupt. Other than those things, she is your woman.
September 20th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
WASHINGTON – A top Hillary Rodham Clinton fundraiser threw her support behind Republican John McCain on Wednesday, saying he will lead the country in a centrist fashion and accusing the Democrats of becoming too extreme.
“I believe that Barack Obama, with MoveOn.org and Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean, has taken the Democratic Party — and they will continue to — too far to the left,” Lynn Forester de Rothschild said. “I’m not comfortable there.”
September 20th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
I know lots of people who had a baby 8 months after getting married they give you a two week window either way so instead of 9 months you can be 8 1/2 and still be full term and have never had a relationship till your wedding night and some people go in early due to complications so whats the point…sound like slander to me.
September 24th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Despite all the venom spewed by the extreme right wing here in the comments, those dates are pretty irrefutable. There is no shame in someone getting pregnant, marrying the father and sustaining the marriage over a span of 20 years. The problem arises when you have that person being a “family values” spewing goody-two shoes like Sarah Palin pretends to be, and all this jive about how she chose not to abort a fetus known to have Downs Syndrome (a pretty irresponsible act as far as I’m concerned). On top of that the smiling “hockey mom” (guess that’s Alaska’s version of the soccer mom)image she wants to project is belied by the comments coming out regarding how spiteful, vindictive and mean spirited (a typical Republican in the Bush/Cheney/Nixon mold) this woman is. She shows the same contempt for legal process (her refusal and the refusal of Alaska politicians to respond to summons and requests to testify in the ‘Troopergate’ investigation, not to mention this talk of postponing it until after the election, when she could be even more unassailable)and justice (and social justice) that Republicans traditionally display. Palin has to be the most manifestly unqualified Vice Presidential candidate in history. Up to this point, I’d always thought Chester Arthur was the least qualified, but Sarah Palin has surpassed that low mark. The ignorance she has displayed is breathtaking. Then there’s the Republicans attempts to keep the press from having access to her, no doubt to keep her from continuing to show how ignorant and uninformed she is. The McCain/Palin ticket is truly frightening for the future of this country, a phony “war hero” (who’s claim to fame is dropping bombs on women and children, getting shot down and exaggerating the severity of the wounds and indications he collaborated with the enemy which the controlled U.S. media won’t touch as well as his role in the fire on USS Forrestal which killed nearly 140 sailors) I cannot think of 3 more unqualified, scary, uninspiring, hypocritical, apathy inducing and just plain ignorant candidates for the highest offices in the land than John McCain, Sarah Palin and Barak Obama. A senile geriatric warmonger who’s sole goal is to continue and illegal and immoral war and start more and doesn’t have a clue about what’s going on domestically in this country or the economy, a manifestly provincial airhead who’s extremely vindictive and ignorant of world and national issues and personifies the word ‘bimbo’; and a guy who has a year and a half in Congress, who’s mother was a self-loathing quasi-communist who hated her own race who’s goal in life was to engage in vindictive activities against a father who game her a man’s name (her real first name is Stanley) because he wanted a son and who’s father was a bigamist, unfaithful (still married when he ‘married’ Barak’s mother) drunk and wife beater who lost his legs in a drunken car wreck in Africa and then lost his life the same way. We don’t hear about it but it’s only a Google search away. His mother then married an Indonesian muslim and sent him to religious schools there when he wasn’t pawned off on the parents she hated. Yeah, these are really the people I would want to be nominees of the two (really one) major parties. It shows just how shallow and depraved the political process has become in America.
September 27th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
It is a shame that such a great country can debase itself to the point of even considering the rhetoric in these posts. All the talk of babies with down syndrome, who had sex and when, and not to mention the expletives to articulate your very week points. I mean think about it. Is this really going to solve the condition of our government or better the people in our land? You all sound like Mental Retards!
October 7th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Is that all you have Alan? Your buddies in the Obama campaign as well as the traditional media, one in the same, have been in Alaska for weeks trying to dig up dirt and that is it? Dems and liberals are always doing their best to tie McCain to the hip of Bush. If anyone tries to tie Obama to Ayres or Rev J Wright, they are labled as crazies or racists. You have no fair nor balanced to you. As you look at all of life through the prism of deeply held liberal views, you cannot be fair no balanced.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:56 am
Your buddies in the Obama campaign as well as the traditional media, one in the same, have been in Alaska for weeks trying to dig up dirt and that is it? Dems and liberals are always doing their best to tie McCain to the hip of Bush. If anyone tries to tie Obama to Ayres or Rev J Wright, they are labled as crazies or racists. You have no fair nor balanced to you. As you look at all of life through the prism of deeply held liberal views, you cannot be fair no balanced.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:00 am
take a look at this article on mrs.palin http://www.salon.com
October 10th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
[...] possible, but we don’t know for certain. Fox News’ Alan Colmes reported that Palin’s first-born son, Track, was born on April 20, 1989, almost eight months to the day [...]
October 17th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Okay, for argument sake, lets just confirm the dates. If Todd and Sarah Palin married on August 29, 1988, and their son was born on April 20, 1989, then that is almost exactly eight months. Most women are usually six weeks pregnant before they know for sure (at least that was the case in the 1980s). I had a child in 1988, and I can tell you that at that time there were no next day pregnancy tests. Even the over the counter tests weren’t that great. Even if Sarah Palin was pregnant when she married, the dates indicate that it would be unlikly that she would have known for sure…. Is it that hard to believe that they were in love, and just wanted to get married and raise a family? Alan, your comment about suspecting the real reason for an elopment is out of line. I hear you regularly complaining about the negative ads and Obama smears, but it appears that you don’t practice what you preach.
October 17th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
I’m republican and I think it’s ridiculous that if someone is engaging in premartial sex is public knowledge. But I understand that if you condemn someone else’s lifetime or impose your beliefs, you better be solid on your actions. All this does is add ammunition for democrats. The personal lives of all candidates should be private unless they are breaking the law. All this is doing is revealing weaknesses of the winner to other countries making the US look foolish.
October 17th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
I think its stupid that the Palin family is being talked about in such a manor. Please go and poll all your friends and see when their first child was born. I believe that both mother and daughter were in love and loved their men for a number of years before baby came. But let’s talk about Obama mama. She was never married to his father – did you hear me – NEVER MARRIED – and yet he can throw his grandmother under the bus because she loved her grandson enough to raise him. It’s not easy to be a grandparent raising a brat kid – an ungrateful kid – a druggie – but even harder in the 60s as we all know obama is black and white. But who washed his clothes, fed him, clothed him, helped with school work, woke him up in the morning and we know it’s not easy when a kid doesn’t want to go to school but also put up with the back talk, disrespect that didn’t just happen; where’s the respect. But this is the woman that gave and gave up her life to provide for obama and yet he through her under the bus – go figure. You want to knock Palin’s because they are women who married their men and praise God they are respectible men who loved their women and planned to marry them regardless. I have a son out of wedlock and when I went before my church, little ole women came out of the woodwork to tell me their first born was out of wedlock. And these are great christian women. Obama’s mama was trash – white trash who got knocked up by a drunk black man and then left her son to be raised by her parents so she could go and live her life as she saw fit. At least Palin’s children were conceived in love – no one can say that about obama. – the nut doesn’t fall to far from the tree. trash is trash and IT doesn’t have a color…………
October 18th, 2008 at 12:06 am
Ya know Alan, I tolerated you because I enjoy Hannity – but you gotta go. I mean now – you gotta go. You are not fit to sit next to Hannity. He is awsome you are sh–. You can stick up for a man with all the junk in his past and then turn around a slam a woman about having a baby 8 months after marriage and still married 20 years and 4 more children later. You are a worm – less than a worm, you are a snake. Please resign so we no longer have to hear your voice. How many children might you have running around without a dad because you left your seed and ran or are you into men. I do believe the bible speak heavy on a man laying with a man. I may be homophobic but I will stand on God’s side. Famous quote “Let’s not pray that God is on our side but that we are on God’s side” go Sarah Palin. You go girl. Your man loves you as you love him what more can a person ask for. I believe Sarah and Todd are on God’s side. Please Alan resign, yesterday isn’t soon enough. Hannity has integrity – you have obama; that ain’t saying much. I pray that God will have McCain and Palin elected just to show you and other’s that HE is in control and that money and voter fraud can not buy an election. Even my children know, you really didn’t win if you cheated. Again just for the record – Alan you are scum major scum. You are not fair and balanced because this piece of journalism just hits below the belt. Ya know you want to talk about issue – where can you find issue with this reporting. I guess you were a virgin lol. You make me sick…. sick…
October 18th, 2008 at 1:18 am
I take back my compliment that “you are a great American”. Mr. Colmes, you have stooped to a new low. And I just wonder how many of your left wing candidates just went out and had abortions so they didn’t have to get married. So much for your argument that pro choice is not pro abortion and a means of birth control. And I wonder how many Democrats have daughters that have had abortions and didn’t marry their boyfriends. But I am sure THEIR privacy rights would prevent that from being made public. I am an independent but this campaign has pushed me to become a full fledged Republican. The vicious ugliness from the left against Sarah Palin and her family is the most horrible thing I have witnessed in my life. All of you should be ashamed of yourselves.
October 18th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
This is the same type of non-issue judgmentalism that I despise from Republicans. Who really cares about this sort of thing? Isn’t the fact that she is unqualified for high office, and that she is against women’s rights, all we need to know? I hated the Republicans for attacking Clinton for personal [sexual] issues; it is every bit as infuriating when it is Democrats going “off topic”! Get over yourselves, Repressed People of Any Party! How she would govern is our business – her hypocrisies have already been revealed – Let’s stick to the issues that actually concern all of us. FOCUS, PLEASE, for GAWD’S SAKE! FOCUS!
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Everyone listen up: ” Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”. That should end it!!
October 30th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Geeze reading all this makes you think we are not from the same country…Sounds like a bunch of children wanting their own way…What if our kids acted and talked this way…Where are the adults? I am for McCain, that is my choice…we all get to pick who we want…we are a free country…In my 54 years I can’t remember such hate in an election…2000 was pretty bad…come on Americans…grow up…Stand up and be proud that you have the freedom you have. Not one of us will have a purple finger on Tues.
October 31st, 2008 at 1:55 am
[...] Tom Blumer at Newsbusters we discover that Colmes also wrote a blog entry on Friday that attacks Conservative Family Values by pointing out that *gasp* Palin and her husband eloped and had their first child eight months [...]
November 10th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
What a piece of crap left wing liberal website. I’m SO glad Alan is leaving Hannity and Colmes. The guy and his eyebrow along with his logic made me want to vomit. My hope is Hannity gets a co-host that can not rub most conservatives completely wrong.
So Alan, apparently Fox wasn’t willing to give the raise you probably think you deserved. Why don’t you leave Fox and go to CNN??? Much better fit for you lefty.
November 24th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
THANK GOD YOU WILL BE OFF TELEVISON SICK AND TIRED OF YOU. TIME TO CELEBRATE.
November 30th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Thank God you will be off tv time to celebrate.
November 30th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
SAY IT ISN’T SO!” Please don’t leave us at the mercy of that guy in the other chair! Shawn is an unfortunate make-up of Oreily/Limbaugh/Duke! He is still fighting the Civil War!” Thanks for helping to balance the racist ranting we here from those other sore losers. You are a breath of fresh air, and will be sorely missed. When will Hannity/Oreily/Limbaugh accept the fact that, Obama IS their elected president too?
December 4th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
[...] he decided to calculate how long before the birth of their first child the Palins were married (less than nine months is [...]
December 19th, 2008 at 10:01 am
hey do you ever think that the loved eachother and he was born premature like my father was by two months
December 24th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Did it ever occur to Alan Colmes that some children are born prematurely? If not, I never want to hear him and other liberals utter another syllable about what dunces Rebublicans are.
Also, given that he sees fit to judge Palin by some sin she MIGHT have committed two decades ago, he needs to take the consonants in his first name and transpose them.
December 28th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Whyyyy does she have to be married???… =( GOD HATES ME.
January 17th, 2009 at 12:00 am
I WONDER IF YOU ARE STILL ON 12.60 LA. When I turn you on at eight p.m. I GET ONLY MUSIC! Have they dropped your show? I MISS IT.
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January 24th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
How do I LISTEN TO YOU ON THE INTERNET?
January 24th, 2009 at 5:13 pm