Has The McCain Campaign Jumped The Shark?

August 29th, 2008, 5:57 PM EDT

 

My friend Judy Brown over at Kos refers to the selection of Sarah Palin as “stunt casting”.  Stunt casting is when a television show is dying and they hire an actor who will get them attention rather than the person who is truly best for the part.  In other words, it is a desperate attempt to avoid jumping the shark.

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  1. Hell, no! This isn’t “stunt casting”. I’ve been researching this woman, and she’s gotten A LOT done in her two years as governor. And she’s done it all with a house full of kids!

    DAMN!

    Posted by Cheryl Carroll
    August 29th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
  2. Hey Alan, you agree with Michael Savage!

    Seriously, he’s wrong about liberalism being a mental disorder. You guys see the point that affirmative action is a bad idea – when the REPUBICANS use it. You are the most hypocritical angry socialist weasel on the planet, over there with you communist hellraisers over at Kos. Now you’re friends are going after Elizabeth Edwards of all people. The hateful divisive liberals who hate everyone who doesn’t think like them because they are so much more superior to everyone. Willing to overlook the scandals of their own administrations and the horror of failed administrations like Carter’s because no one was smart enough to see that a failing America unable to defend itself is allegedly a good thing.

    Keep it up. Just keep it up Alan, you and your socialist friends. Keep ridiculing people who own more than one home, or believe in God, or the times when Republicans open the doors and expose the fraud of your allegations of discrimination. You are a sickening evil diseased disgusting piece of shit, when you said you don’t care about Ayers reveals just exactly how liberals feel about the United States. The conservatives are energized and finally satisfied with the potential future of their party, and of course you are in full panic mode because McCain did not choose a baby murderer and ruin his chances at election. Guess what, you no longer define the terms of the GOP platform, McCain has shown multiple times in the last month he’s come home because he too has been trashed by the lib media once they found a Marxist champion affirmative action replacement. Guess what, the maverick one-upped you, you thought it would be Romney and you could make housing jokes all day and run anti-GOP ads between the candidates. But you have no real criticisms, so you are reduced to your typical hate.

    If we find a video of Palin sitting in a church where the pastor actively damns our country then maybe you will have a point. Until then, you suck. And always will.

  3. Alan:

    This woman has accomplished some good things; but she would be scary on foreign policy. I can’t see her face to face with Russia or Iran. I have to question McCain’s thinking on this. Surely if he just wanted to pick a woman in order to get the Hillary vote, he could have went with Sen. Hutchinson from Texas; she’s much more qualified. What’s also curious to me is the fact that McCain has only known Gov. Palin since 2/08. It seemed like something he really decided last minute. I’m just scratching my head as to why he passed up Ridge and Romney for Palin!?1

  4. The real McCain recognizes how the radical rightists are driving this country toward self-destruction, AND SO GREAT IS HIS PATRIOTISM THAT HE IS DOING EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO THROW THE ELECTION!!

    I salute you, John McCain.

    Posted by RC from Smithtown
    August 29th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
  5. “If we find a video of Palin sitting in a church where the pastor actively damns our country then maybe you will have a point. Until then, you suck. And always will”.
    Posted by Rezko
    ………………………………………….

    ~ John Hagee, the controversial evangelical leader and endorser of Sen. John McCain, argued in a late 1990s sermon that the Nazis had operated on God’s behalf to chase the Jews from Europe and shepherd them to Palestine. According to the Reverend, Adolph Hitler was a “hunter,” sent by God, who was tasked with expediting God’s will of having the Jews re-establish a state of Israel.

    ~ Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson:
    …I really believe that the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way, all of them who try to secularize America…I point the thing in their face and say you helped this happen.”
    Robertson said, “I totally concur, and the problem is we’ve adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government, and so we’re responsible as a free society for what the top people do, and the top people, of course, is the court system.”

    ~ Frank Schaffer:
    “When Senator Obama’s preacher thundered about racism and injustice Obama suffered smear-by-association. But when my late father — Religious Right leader Francis Schaeffer — denounced America and even called for the violent overthrow of the US government, he was invited to lunch with presidents Ford, Reagan and Bush, Sr.

    Every Sunday thousands of right wing white preachers (following in my father’s footsteps) rail against America’s sins from tens of thousands of pulpits. They tell us that America is complicit in the “murder of the unborn,” has become “Sodom” by coddling gays, and that our public schools are sinful places full of evolutionists and sex educators hell-bent on corrupting children. They say, as my dad often did, that we are, “under the judgment of God.” They call America evil and warn of immanent destruction. By comparison Obama’s minister’s shouted “controversial” comments were mild.”

    Spare us the phoney outrage!!!

  6. Oh yay, the brilliant minds of the great republicans are at it again! <—sarcasm.
    I am not a republican but I believe that if McCain would of picked Senator Hutchinson or Romney at the least, I would have thought McCain had done a fantastic pick…..but Palin as VP? She’s like a newbie who’s as much qualified as my new pet goldfish in his new tank. Yeah…she’s done alot of stuff but, nobody knows her. Just like people who say that they won’t vote for Obama because they “don’t know him enough”….ALL this sounds like b.s. to me.
    Know I really do think this is some real “stunt casting”. I am sticking to my guns and voting for Obama.

  7. This VP pick is all a stunt to keep the conversation away from and thwart the dialog from the imperative issues. The Repubs will whine about how McCain’s choice is being maligned by the Dems – again avoiding the real issues. More declining profits throughout the country…and the band played on. I’m sick of hearing about the Hillary supporters. It’s time to move on and talk about the issues Obama discussed last night.

  8. Don’t you just love these anti-abortion/pro-war people(save the fetus, kill the child)? They sure love to hate.

  9. I think the biggest scandal of the 21st Century will be the Democrat playground of Fannie Mae… When the facts come out about what this Congress-created Frankenstien has become under the hands of the Dems, the people will burn down Washington, DC.

  10. Oh hell, that shark is as ugly as Michelle Obama and Cindy McCain!

    At least Michelle cooks some real good soul food instead of Cindy’s fake and plagiarized burnt cookies!

  11. That’s a good one Maverick.
    I’m hungry now for some soul food and I’m not even black!

    Posted by Sean-Goldsboro
    August 29th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
  12. Rezko,

    I don’t know if you are talking to me or not. What is it with this name calling…are we 12?

    I don’t know what you’re talking about, (I don’t think you even know).

    I think that Obama/ Biden will be much better for this country than McCain/ Palin. That’s It.

    I think they will place the interests of the American people above those of multi-national corporations, and do more for national security.

    I fear that McCain will pander more to the defence industry than to national defence, and pander to the far, far right to help him get a second term.

    If he wins, I hope I’m wrong, that’s all I can say.

    But I guess if YOU call me a commie, than I must be wrong about EVERYTHING!

  13. This administration has been a complete disaster and McCain is merely a continuation of that disaster. So far I’ve only heard Obama talk about the problematic issues and how he plans to resolve them. All I’ve heard from McCain is attacks against Obama and his POW status – nothing of substance.

  14. I’ve got nothing personally against Palin and as an Obama supporter I’m not going to question her (lack of) experience. All I can say is that I refuse to support in any way a politician who has such little regard for the environment that she says global warming isn’t real and wants to remove the polar bears from the endangered species list. Needlessly to say, she’s also a “DRILL! DRILL! DRILL!” type. Sorry, but I even prefer John McCain.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/29/palin_not_convinced_on_global.html

  15. I wouldn’t pay too much attention to Rezko, Old Lefty. He’s on the same level as suntan. He can’t prove his point so he resorts to insults. It’s a typical republican/conservative ploy.

  16. TDRO, you are right about the typical/conservative ploy that some people resort to. It is absolutely immature and just plain …..annoyingly pointless.

  17. OK, I’ll bite on the experience thing. At least Obama was in meaningful state government before the US Senate. Palin was mayor of a town of 6,000 people before becoming the governor of a small state population wise less than two years ago. I think that’s actually a fair point. For what little experience Obama has, Palin has close to zero.

  18. ” At least Obama was in meaningful state government before the US Senate”

    HAHA.. You think the Illinois State Assembly is meaningful?

    Here is the swamp from where Obama’s carreer was launched , under his mentor, Emil Jones Sr (who has now announced he’s retiring, and having his son placed on the ballot by decree to continue the legacy (a fine Chicago/Illinois tradition)):
    ———–

    …in 2002, dissatisfaction with President Bush and Republicans on the national and local levels led to a Democratic sweep of nearly every lever of Illinois state government. For the first time in 26 years, Illinois Democrats controlled the governor’s office as well as both legislative chambers.

    The white, race-baiting, hard-right Republican Illinois Senate Majority Leader James “Pate” Philip was replaced by Emil Jones Jr., a gravel-voiced, dark-skinned African-American known for chain-smoking cigarettes on the Senate floor… Jones had served in the Illinois Legislature for three decades. He represented a district on the Chicago South Side not far from Obama’s. He became Obama’s ­kingmaker.

    Several months before Obama announced his U.S. Senate bid, Jones called his old friend Cliff Kelley, a former Chicago alderman who now hosts the city’s most popular black call-in radio ­program… [Jones said] ‘Cliff, I’m gonna make me a U.S. Senator.’”

    …Jones appointed Obama sponsor of virtually every high-profile piece of legislation, angering many rank-and-file state legislators who had more seniority than Obama and had spent years championing the bills.

    “I took all the beatings and insults and endured all the racist comments over the years from nasty Republican committee chairmen,” State Senator Rickey Hendon, the original sponsor of landmark racial profiling and videotaped confession legislation yanked away by Jones and given to Obama, complained to me at the time. “Barack didn’t have to endure any of it, yet, in the end, he got all the credit.

    …During his seventh and final year in the state Senate, Obama’s stats soared. He sponsored a whopping 26 bills passed into law — including many he now cites in his presidential campaign when attacked as inexperienced.

    Last June, to prove his commitment to government transparency, Obama released a comprehensive list of his earmark requests for fiscal year 2008. It comprised more than $300 million in pet projects for Illinois, including tens of millions for Jones’s Senate district.

    Shortly after Jones became Senate president, I remember asking his view on pork-barrel spending… I’ll never forget what he said: “Some call it pork; I call it steak.”

  19. Oppps, I called him Sr. The retiring Illinois Senate President Emil Jones is a Jr.. being replaced by a IIIrd.

  20. Well if anything Obama did do the right thing in picking Biden to be under “adult supervision.”
    But the one here who should really be under adult supervision should be McCain.

    McCain+Palin?

    Two wrongs will not equal a right!

  21. you are so sad

  22. “But you aren’t capable of seeing anything but race and gender.”

    It sounds to me like you’re projecting your racism and misogyny onto the liberals/democrats. However, we expect that from republicans/conservatives.

  23. “when the (R) brand has been completely demonized”

    And I can understand why people are disenfranchised by the republican party – the endless war in Iraq, the skyrocketing deficit, rising unemployment, incompetence in Washington, escalating gas and food prices and the lies and deceit coming from this administration.

    This administration has destroyed any good standing we may have had with others countries (except the terrorists, they love Bush).

  24. Alan,
    The difference between change we can believe in and broad-jumping a shark is not always known a priori.
    Leadership is about having the instinct to differentiate between the two, and do it correctly.
    If McCain had played ball-control offense and emulated the Biden pick, you’d have posted the same obvious question that you have here.
    So congratulate yourself on a minor feat of shark hurdling, as well.
    Cheers,
    Chris

  25. It’s all over now. Obama had the opprtunity with Hillary
    to make political history. He chose not to, and has made the biggest political BLUNDER in history. All you liberals need all the napkins you can get to wipe McCains pie off Obama’s face. Obama and Biden are now the Laural and Hardy of politics. Excuse me, I just can’t control my laughter.

    Posted by The Conservative
    August 29th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
  26. He can’t prove his point so he resorts to insults. It’s a typical republican/conservative ploy.
      
    That’s the pot calling the kettle black!

    Posted by Truth2Power
    August 29th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
  27. Thank you Michael for showing some intelligence, although Palin does have more experience than you are giving credit. Not exactly a conventional choice, but then this year has been very unusual. Biden never would have been chosen VP under regular circumstances either, that was a choice based on demographics and “oh by the way he has foreign policy experience.” Its much the same with Palin except the reverse, she’s a hardcore conservative who isn’t aligned to thebeltway or Bush and isn’t a rich country club insider, and “by the way she’s a woman.” Its much the same with Palin except the reverse, she’s a hardcore conservative who isn’t aligned to thebeltway or Bush and isn’t a rich country club insider, and “by the way she’s a woman.”
    ———————–

    I think you’re spot on. Palin wasn’t picked for her qualifications, she was picked to make the conservative base happy and to try to pander to some of the disgruntled Hillary supporters (mostly women in this case) at the same time. I’d still be nervous though if (God forbid) anything were to happen to McCain and Palin had to step into the presidency. Not only is she a far-right looney in my view, but she also has pretty much zero qualification to be President.

    Biden on the other hand is ready to step in should (God forbid) anything happen to Obama. Not only does he have the foreign policy experience to lead, but he’s proven that he has the wisdom and the judgement. Palin hasn’t even proven that she has sound judgement let alone any sort of meaningful experience.

    I’ll admit that judgement is more important than experience in my book, but there are some cases where the candidate really IS making a bigger jump than they should be. Prior to becoming a member of the US Senate, Obama was a state legislator for 7 years. That’s certainly more meaningful, in my book, than being the mayor of a small town in Alaska.

  28. And I can understand why people are disenfranchised by the republican party
      
    Okay TRDO, I’m going to post what I believe the facts prove and then you can refute it. I’ll post a few different posts because of the link limit.
      
    the endless war in Iraq
      
    We still have troops in japan, germany, bosnia, kosovo and korea when we fought those wars. Do you consider them endless wars since we still have troops stationed there?
      
    This war isn’t going to last forever. Obama said in his speech that bush is following his advice and there is an end in sight.

    Posted by Truth2Power
    August 30th, 2008 at 12:12 am
  29. And I can understand why people are disenfranchised by the republican party
      
    Okay TRDO, I’m going to post what I believe the facts prove and then you can refute it. I’ll post a few different posts because of the link limit.
      
    rising unemployment

    Unemployment was on it’s way down until the democrats took control of congress. They took control Jan 2007
       
    look at the graph, since the democrats took control of congress unemployment has gone up.
    http://www.doleta.gov/Performance/Charts/Unemployment_rate_jan03-mar08.cfm

    Posted by Truth2Power
    August 30th, 2008 at 12:12 am
  30. And I can understand why people are disenfranchised by the republican party
      
    Okay TRDO, I’m going to post what I believe the facts prove and then you can refute it. I’ll post a few different posts because of the link limit.
      
    incompetence in Washington
      
    Incompetence by the government is standard faire. I could waste all of Alan’s bandwidth with government waste links.
      
    In 1998 alone, $35 billion in taxpayer dollars was lost due to government waste, fraud, abuse and mismanagement.
    http://hsgac.senate.gov/012400_press.htm
     
    Why do you think incompetence is all due to bush? This is exactly why I believe in the private sector. Imagine you’re running a business. Your company “losses” 35 billion $$, is someone going to get fired? Hell yeah. In the government all that will happen is raise taxes to repplace the wasted money.

    Posted by Truth2Power
    August 30th, 2008 at 12:13 am
  31. And I can understand why people are disenfranchised by the republican party
      
    Okay TRDO, I’m going to post what I believe the facts prove and then you can refute it. I’ll post a few different posts because of the link limit.
       
    escalating gas
      
    The graph at the bottom of the page. Note gas prices (per gallon) were at a low as the democrats took control of congress (Jan 2007). Notice how prices went up.
    http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/wrgp/mogas_home_page.html

    Posted by Truth2Power
    August 30th, 2008 at 12:13 am
  32. And I can understand why people are disenfranchised by the republican party
      
    Okay TRDO, I’m going to post what I believe the facts prove and then you can refute it. I’ll post a few different posts because of the link limit.
       
    and food prices
      
    When gas prices go up the cost of everything delivered by gas goes up.
        
    Continuing high demand for corn, fueled by increasing ethanol production, will keep corn prices at historic levels for the foreseeable future, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) announced on March 1.
    http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=20943

    Posted by Truth2Power
    August 30th, 2008 at 12:13 am
  33. And I can understand why people are disenfranchised by the republican party
      
    Okay TRDO, I’m going to post what I believe the facts prove and then you can refute it. I’ll post a few different posts because of the link limit.
       
    This administration has destroyed any good standing we may have had with others countries (except the terrorists, they love Bush)
      
    Explain why both france and germany elected right-wingers that are not only friendly with bush but made that clear during their election campaigns.
    Why do you think the terrorists are happy with bush? True, he has paid them more attention than clinton ever did. Other than that I can’t think of a reason.

    Posted by Truth2Power
    August 30th, 2008 at 12:14 am
  34. And I can understand why people are disenfranchised by the republican party
      
    Okay TRDO, I’m going to post what I believe the facts prove and then you can refute it. I’ll post a few different posts because of the link limit.
       
    Dow jones industrial average-
    Bottom graph. Notice the drop has been since the democrats took control of congress. Jan 2007
    http://www.advfn.com/djia/DowJonesCharts.asp?index=INDU

    Posted by Truth2Power
    August 30th, 2008 at 12:14 am
  35. And I can understand why people are disenfranchised by the republican party
      
    Okay TRDO, I’m going to post what I believe the facts prove and then you can refute it. I’ll post a few different posts because of the link limit.
       
    What about consumer confidence-
    Check out the graph at the bottom of the page. Note the date the democrats took control of congress, (Jan 2007), and notice the decline since.
    http://www.nasdaq.com/econoday/reports/US/EN/New_York/consumer_confidence/year/2008/yearly/06/index.html

    Posted by Truth2Power
    August 30th, 2008 at 12:15 am
  36. T2P:
    The pot calling the kettle black? Well, you should know.

    I’m not interested in what you have to say. Please direct your responses to someone with whom you hold more interest like Bradlay, Sundan, Vincent P and the Conservative.

    Since you feel we liberals are beneath you, you may find people on the right wing site more receptive to your eternal wisdom.

  37. “Your Muslim, Bastard, Corrupt, Racist, America Hating, Socialist, NIGGER will LOSE in Nov. Put That In Your Crack Pipe And Smoke IT you crybaby.”

    Posted by suntan

    Here is somebody more your speed, T2P. Try asking him where he gets his information

  38. And I’m sick of being psychoanalized. “Explain this,” or “why is it that…”. If you think everything is peachy, if you love this war and high gas prices and the escalating deficit, then by all means, vote for McCain. I really don’t care

  39. I’m not interested in what you have to say. Please direct your responses to someone with whom you hold more interest like Bradlay, Sundan, Vincent P and the Conservative.
      
    The irony is you just proved my “pot calling the kettle” phrase directly spot on.
      
    Were those facts too much for you to deal with? Strange, you act like I’m wrong but NEVER even try to refute what I write.
      
    I provided a bunch of factual links (no opinion articles), I made the connection between democrats and many of the problems you listed. Have you got nothing to say?
      
    Since you feel we liberals are beneath you, you may find people on the right wing site more receptive to your eternal wisdom.
      
    If I don’t try and debate with those whose opinions differ from me how will I ever learn anything.
      
    Here is somebody (suntan)more your speed, T2P. Try asking him where he gets his information
      
    More my speed? I would do a little more psychoanalysis of you but you already know what I’m going to say, even if you don’t consciously know it yet, deep down inside you do.

    Posted by Truth2Power
    August 30th, 2008 at 1:14 am
  40. And I’m sick of being psychoanalized. “Explain this,” or “why is it that…”. If you think everything is peachy, if you love this war and high gas prices and the escalating deficit, then by all means, vote for McCain. I really don’t care
      
    I’m sorry you feel being asked for your opinion, accompanied with some facts make you feel like you are being psychoanalyzed. If you are not here to voice your opinion what are you doing here.
      
    Can you provide a link where I say everything is peachy, or I love the war and high gas prices. Ask yourself why you need to put words in my mouth.

    Posted by Truth2Power
    August 30th, 2008 at 1:19 am
  41. T2P: Other than infantilizing people’s names TDRO doesn’t have much to say.

    Good job at showing how all of his complaints are truly things he really doesn’t care about, because he doesn’t care about those things when Not-Bush does them. He only cares if his target of hate does them. An attitude I find very common amoung the Leftards.

  42. T2P:
    Republican/conservatives are infallible and are God’s chosen people. They are patriotic, pro-American and love the troops.

    Democrats are Marxists who are hell bent on destroying this country. They are communists, unAmerican, unpatriotic and hate the troops.

    Okay, I’ve said what you want to hear, so leave me alone and direct your responses to Vince Pee. He seems to like you.

  43. “He only cares if his target of hate does them. An attitude I find very common amoung the Leftards.”
    Posted by Vince P – Chicago

    Hmmm. A hater calling me a hater.

  44. All due respect to Judy, but I think we at SoonerThought called it “Stunt Casting” first. Great minds think alike. Just sayin’. ;-)

  45. Okay, I’ve said what you want to hear, so leave me alone and direct your responses to Vince Pee. He seems to like you.
      
    You regurgitated the stereotyped talking points. I was hoping you could be real. Shows you what HOPE does for you. Maybe you will CHANGE.

    Posted by Truth2Power
    August 30th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
  46. Apparently you’re uninterested in my responses because I’ve answered these exact same questions provided above in a previous post and a post before that. Therefore, I’m inclined to believe you are simply trying to drown me with your republican talking points.

    Since I haven’t the inclination to repost my answers every 2-3 weeks, I thought I’d respond with the mindless mantra you seem to prefer.

    By the way, my posts above are simply my opinion based on news sources. My opinion is that this country is in a state of decay and the minute you read my post, you inundate me with links blaming the democrats.

    Now I know you think Bush and Cheney are blameless. That’s fine, that’s your opinion. My response to you is if this crap started during the Clinton administration, Bush had 8 years to clean it up. And he failed.

  47. TDRO – I have to disagree with you, I’m sorry. ‘Bush failed’ is way too soft a description of the debacle that he and his criminal cronies have been responsible for.

    The word ‘failed’ implies some kind of effort was made to turn the country around in a positive way.

    Posted by John McKee
    August 30th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
  48. I agree with you, John. However, everytime I bring up the Bush/Cheney debacle, I’m inundated with posts from the right about Clinton’s blow job, which, as everybody knows, was a great way to spend taxpayers’ money (sarcasm).

    Thanks for backing me. I thought Old Lefty and a few others were the only liberals on this site.

  49. I agree with TDRO. The Republicans blame everything on Bill Clinton and his blowjob. They just repeat the same stuff because they have no other points to make.

  50. Oh, and not only does Bill Clinton get blamed for everything, but he gets no credit for anything either.

    The two most ridiculous things I heard recently on another blog:

    Someone was trying to make the point that during the Clinton Administration the real estate market was booming and home ownership skyrocketed, then during the Bush Administration the market bottomed out, with a ridiculously high number of Americans losing their homes. The reason given: “Well, that’s because people do not know how to manage their money and purchase homes they can’t afford”. Yeah right, because just over the last few years people started to mis-manage their money and make unwise purchases – before a few years ago, nobody ever did that.

    Another good one: “Clinton’s economy was really the result of the Reagan Administration”. Now people, we’ve all heard of “trickle down economy” but that must have been one hell of a slow trickle!

    I think most Democrats are willing to admit their party’s flaws (at least I know I am), but many Republicans will defend their party no matter what they do.

    There are still many Republicans walking around claiming that George Bush was the “best president this country ever had”. Now how can anybody possibly feel confident making this statement?

  51. Adding Palin is a transparent (and misguided) ploy to gain Hillary voters.

    With all the conservative fuss, you would think she is the one on the top of the ticket. It changes nothing. McCain is still the one running for president. His policies have not suddenly become pro-woman.

    This move shows the McCain campaign is even more desperate than we thought.