It’s About Judgment, Stupid
The post about Sarah Palin’s pre-natal care was taken down because of the vile comments made by a pletehora of conservatives who decided to invade the site and show us just how decent and value-driven some of them are. Nothing like epithet-hurling if you want to make your point, or if you have strong objections to what someone says or does. Furthermore, I in no way mean to suggest that her child’s Down Syndrome was in any way related to decisions she made. In fact I never mentioned Down Syndrome in the post. However, I apologize that my post was not more clear on that point. That is my fault, and I’ll take responsibility for not being more clear on that point. That being said…
Jaru summed it up on a previous thread.
Conservative hate was re-routed via conservative blogs!
Anyway, I love how everyone keeps trying to accuse Alan of accusing Princess Mooseburger of birthing a mentally retarded child on purpose.
He asked a judgement question about a 7 month pregnant woman who just had her water break GET ON A 12 HOUR FLIGHT TO GIVE BIRTH after giving a 30 MINUTE SPEECH instead of doing the SENSIBLE THING AND STAYING PUT WITH A DOCTOR.
The idea that you can’t question Sarah Palin’s judgment because she has a Down Syndrome baby is right up there with the outrage some feel the minute you question a man who was held in a prison camp for five years. Yet, the same outraged protectors of our values have no trouble questioning Obama’s judgment: a nodding acquaintance with someone in his neighborhood, his choice of a church, his very faith, and then they blamed that on the Clintons). The question was even raised as to whether he is hiding the truth of his birth certificate. In fact, hotair.com, the the site most outraged about what I posted, was one of the prime venues of the birth certificate debate, among others concerning Obama’s “judgment”. And let’s not forget the attacks on Michelle Obama and the insinuations that she doesn’t really love her country.
For the record, I think the McCain choice of Palin was caculatingly smart, in that it guarantees that a glass ceiling be broken after the coming election. I’m sure Sarah Palin is a fine person who is just very wrong on the issues and, like all of us, hasn’t always shown perfect judgment. But don’t tell me that John McCain chose the best person for the job, or that he didn’t make this choice reactively, because Hillary Clinton is not on the Democratic ticket.
For the record, here is the link to Rogers Cadenhead’s post on the issue of judgment.
Maybe Palin’s actions can be written off as Alaskan grit, since she’s a macho hunting governor who jogs in freezing temperatures and dines on moose burgers. But as a parent myself, I think the Palins were extremely fortunate that their reckless stupidity did not end in tragedy. As middle-aged parents who already had four kids, the Palins had to be completely familiar with all the things that can go wrong in a pregnancy. One commenter on the Washington Times laid out the enormous risk she was taking:
Airlines are unequipped to handle most emergencies at 30,000 feet, particularly the kind Palin put her unborn child at markedly increased risk for. These emergencies include birthing a premature infant or uncontrolled maternal bleeding. This was her FIFTH pregnancy and delivery can happen rapidly and unexpectedly. The baby or Palin could easily have died.
The Anchorage Daily News gave the chronology of events the day Palin was in Dallas giving a speech where she began contractions, and water broke. It quotes Dr. Laurie Gregg, a Sacramnto obstetrician:
[Dr. Laurie Gregg] who is active in the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, said when a pregnant woman’s water breaks, she should go right to the hospital because of the risk of infection. That’s true even if the amniotic fluid simply leaks out…”To us, leaking and broken, we are talking the same thing. We are talking doctor-speak,” Gregg said.
Down Syndrome is another matter, and can sometimes be related to a mother’s age. This is a risk that older parents take, and one the Palins took consciously, and not irresponsibly.
Because of prenatal testing, most families now know beforehand, said Judy Waldron, president of the Alaska chapter of the National Down Syndrome Congress, a support and education group that delivered a parent packet to the Palins in the hospital.
“They anticipate it and they kind of relish the challenge of having a child with special needs,” said Waldron, an Anchorage teacher whose 19-year-old daughter, Lyn, has Down syndrome.
If we are going to evaluate candidates based on life decisions: what churches they attend, what religions they practice, who their preachers are, who their friends are, all of which fall under the rubrick of “judgment”, then all of this is fair game. That argument cuts many ways so, to quote my least favorite president, “Bring it on.”
Alan,
I used to have some respect for you now your just a sick P.O.S.. The woman had 5 children and I would say she understands better then you ever will about having children. Of course your of the party that says ” KILL THEM ALL” Murders!!!!! and your one of them.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Of course, that works. Remove the post, remove the comments. And then blame the necessity of the removal on the comments. Which no one can now see! And then base your argument on ‘evidence’ that isn’t available.
You could have frozen the comments, Alan. And then left up the original post and comments. But that isn’t the liberal way. You could have left the post up, and deleted any posts using profanity. Nope, that isn’t the liberal way. What you have done is destroyed the ‘evidence’ so you can make up anything you want.
Your actions speak much louder than your words.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:54 pm
As one of the “brights” you perhaps owe it to yourself to discover that Down’s Syndrome is the result of a chromosome breaking that occurrs mostly in older women. Pre-natal care has nothing to do with it. Are you so terrified of a strong, intelligent, independent woman who disagrees with you on major economic and foreign policy issues that you are reduced to such idiocy?
August 31st, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Alan,
You are a lying P.O.S.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Mr. Colmes, A simple apology from you would have been the decent thing to do. Instead, you delete the post and blame those who pointed out your error of judgment. Step back and take a deep breath. I don’t believe you are really this callous.
But if you are, shame on you, again.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:04 pm
I see you are learning from your mentor Barack Obama. Take down the original post and then blame your complete lack of judgement and human decency on those of us who called you out on it.
Laurie Gregg is not Sarah Palin’s OB and she doesn’t know her medical history.
It’s about being a decent human being, stupid.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Hmmmm. Your ego is -that- big is it?
No apology. You try and divert blame to the “vile” comments of conservatives.
I will echo Mark here. Shame on you.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:10 pm
What ‘cha gonna do Alan? Delete this post too?
But the head line fits, Alan. It is about judgment. Your judgment, Alan.
So, tell me. How did Obama and Ayers spend that 100 million of the Chicago Annenbury Challenge? I guess you won’t be able to flush that down the memory hole.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Alan,
On some big score board, you’ve pegged the hypocrite meter. Attacking a woman for having a Down Syndrome child is about as low as one can go. It was unseemly in the extreme.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Had no idea that Colmes was also an ob/gyn specializing in high risk pregnancies.Perhaps he prefers his women to be hidden away for the 9 months of pregnancy. Sounds like you have some issues bud.TWL. Typical white lib.Hypocritical and callous.Next up, panel discussion with Michael Moore, KOS,and the azzhat ex DNC chairman on pregnancy, hurricane Gustav, and why everything is the fault of GW Bush.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Excuses, excuses, excuses. Blame it on the conservative blogs, sure. Man up and attack with real facts. I hope Fox takes notice and takes you down because of your vile putrid ramblings.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Well, whatever she did, it was a choice. And we know not to ever question a woman’s “choice” when it comes to women’s health issues. This is between her and her doctor. Isn’t that right?
August 31st, 2008 at 2:16 pm
“epithet-hurling if you want to make your point”
As opposed to you, who yells over critics and blames your removal of a vile post on the commenters at your site.
I run a Wordpress-based blog. You could’ve kept the post up and deleted/shut off the comments. Someone used bad judgment, but it wasn’t the commenters. They’re simply the scape-goat for your stupidity.
“But don’t tell me that John McCain chose the best person for the job, or that he didn’t make this choice reactively, because Hillary Clinton is not on the Democratic ticket. ”
There was a ground-swell of support for Palin amongst conservative activists for quite some time now. $7 million doesn’t pour in because there was no support except that he picked her to win over PUMAs.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:17 pm
You want to talk about what’s vile? The vile responses of the Obama campaign and its surrogates to the Palin announcement, that’s what’s vile. But liberals are incapable of seeing their own hypocrisy, even when it is so blatant. You really think “moderate” women will reject Gov. Palin because she’s pro-life? By moderate, I assume you mean rabid NARAL feminists, correct? I really appreciate how your liberals have sharpened the focus of the campaign on issues — like the issue of your complete abrogation of civility and decency. Good job, Alan.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Alan, you are beyond nasty. Beyond.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Alan,
Taking down the offensive post and then blaming it on “offensive comments” that no one can see is the height of cowardice. You are a moral coward.
I used to have a modicum of respect for you, even though you’re a Lefty. Not any more.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Alan, you’re still way off base here.
First of all, you’re of the “her body, her choice” crowd, so you should have absolutely NOTHING to say about this. Remember, there’s no baby there, just a “woman’s body”, right Al?
But the venom you attracted with your post is just sort of a boiling over of the attacks we’ve seen from you and all of your liberal friends, on this decent woman. Are you aware (I’m sure you are) what your Kos Kids and DUers are pushing? They’re saying that this is Palin’s oldest daughter’s baby, and there’s a big cover-up, etc. etc. Understand why people are infuriated by the shameless attacks you people are launching?
August 31st, 2008 at 2:21 pm
If you’d like, Alan, I could explain how to put that post back up without those “vile” comments. After all, the only reason you took it down was because of those evil conservatives, right?
August 31st, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Colmes, judgment of Palins’ prenatal care is not any of your business, period. I guess I missed the extensive 50 year OB/GYN report of Hillary Clinton & Nancy Pelosi that you put forth that also questioned their judgment in matters that you feel that you should take upon yourself. Please reprint these for me as I now feel like I’m obligated to judge all OB/GYN decisions of all the elected females now holding office. Colmes, your classless act will not go unnoticed by your shows’ sponsors or those from who employee you. I don’t mind your liberal views, but your on some kind of smear campaign if there ever was one & it will not go on unanswered.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Your original article was beyond the lowest of the low. It also was sexist, just plan incorrect in re the actual content, and smarmy.
Liberals are for strong women unless they are running against Democrats.
By the way, I’m a Democrat, and I’ll be voting McCain/Palin. I was overjoyed when Palin was named, and I made a contribution to McCain that same day.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Mr. Colmes, I am a conservative and a fan of your show with Sean Hannity. I like you on the show even though we rarely agree because you generally present your points honestly.
That said, this is weak. You made a baseless attack on Ms. Palin. You criticized her judgment and character during pregnancy even though your entire base for attack was entirely inaccurate. Then, when it was pointed out that you were wrong, you pulled the piece and made up a lame excuse for why you pulled it.
No, it is not out of bounds to criticize her for her mothering skills, but that is a criticism you had better make carefully. Do I need to remind you of Tom Cruise. It is nothing short of chutzpah for you to criticize a mother of five. It was a smear plain and simple and you are better than that.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:24 pm
I’ve watched H&C in the past; I will not do so in the future. It’s a viewer’s choice. I hope the show’s ratings tank. You could be easily replaced by an intelligent liberal. Susan Estrich comes immediately to mind.
I’ve e-mailed Hannity to fire or suspend you. I’ve e-mailed Special Report to the same effect. If I knew the name of the person who has the authority at Fox to yank you, I’d e-mail that person too.
Even MSNBC disciplined Schuster for characterizing the Clintons as “pimping out” Chelsea during the primaries. You reflect poorly on Fox.
Have a nice life.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Why am I not suprised that you’re blaming “conservative hate” for the angry response to your chickensh*t – there is no other word for it – cheapshot at Sarah Palin and her child?
I believe the psychological term for your condition is “projection.”
Congratulations, Alan. You’ve gone from merely defending the indefensible, to being indefensible in your own right.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Alan, in all honesty, I thought you were a decent guy, but your post about Sarah Palin and her pregnancy has changed my perception.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Is that your position Alan? That all women policitians should have their medical decisions examined? DWIGG has it right.
Alan Colmes calls for all women politicians to have their medical choices reviewed in order to demonstrate their fitness for the office.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Bring it on?? You got it! I’ll bring every woman in every parent group for special needs children with me. You don’t even apologize, you’ll regret that.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:30 pm
CC’d from the other thread:
I think he did the responsible thing. Now, if you had just stopped at calling Alan dirty Jewish baby killer, he maaaayy have let it slide. Calling Barack Obama a various plethora of racial slurs was completely inappropriate as well. I’m thinking it’s not the first time it’s happened on Alan.com, but just a wild guess.
But political posturing of a child with Down Syndrome is disgusting.
He didn’t say, “What kind of mother runs for VP with an infant with Down syndrome?” He didn’t say, “Did she take all of her prenatal vitamins?” He didn’t go as far as some Republicans as to ask if she practice sodomy in the bedroom as I doubt Alan (or other dirty Jews like myself if you want to keep slinging) is in the business of figuring out what people do in the bedroom.
No. Governor Palin made a very clear and very public questionable judgement call that endangered a seven month old fetus and…well, bragged about it.
But if those who dislike Alan or his political views want to turn this into something much bigger – and nastier – than what it is, you may think you’re advocating your own cause, but you’re really just using an infant child with disabilities for your own political agenda because you have nothing else to stand on.
And when that doesn’t work, you attack Jews and Muslims and black people.
Alan did the responsible thing by closing the thread. He’s a journalist and a public figure. And in case you conservatives forgot, this is also his blog. If he saw a thread spinning out of control because of its highly insensitive, bigoted, racist and ethnocentric tone, he had every right to make that judgement call.
And that’s a judgement call I’m not going to question.
-JoyAnn Ruscha
August 31st, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Wow, Alan. I hope to God you stay on the air. Comments such as yours are a lightening rod for the Republican base. I always thought you were a Republican ‘plant,’ but from what I’m reading on Kos and HuffPo it looks like you are just towing the Party line. If this is the Hope & Change I hear about then I’ll take the other bus. Good luck with this type of “low road” campaigning!
August 31st, 2008 at 2:32 pm
I have to laugh at this statement:
He asked a judgement question about a 7 month pregnant woman who just had her water break GET ON A 12 HOUR FLIGHT TO GIVE BIRTH after giving a 30 MINUTE SPEECH instead of doing the SENSIBLE THING AND STAYING PUT WITH A DOCTOR.
My wife and I are expecting our 4th child, and one thing that is clear (and anyone who reads any of the multitudes of books about birth) is that having one’s water break does not equate to imminent birth. Although this is what always happens in movies or tv shows, it isn’t so in real life.
Our youngest was born nearly 32 hours after my wife’s water breaking, I can guarantee you that we would not have stayed that far from home. Given the opportunity, my wife would have chosen to fly home to her doctor, to her maternity center, to be near her family.
Clearly, Gov. Palin did the same thing. And as her husband, I would have supported her. Sorry, but questioning her judgment in this situation is a pretty weak argument, and yet another strawman set up by a liberal to attack a formidable foe. Palin’s decision about where she would give birth to her child is much smarter the Obama’s decision to sit under the teaching of Jeremiah Wright, to be friends with Bill Ayers, etc.
If we want to talk about judgement calls, let’s talk about apples-apples. This is a pretty pathetic attempt.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Sorry Alan. OBAMA has asked us to assess his judgement. Sarah Palin did not ask anyone to question her judgement in having a downs syndrome baby. You crossed the line big time. Suck it up.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:33 pm
in typical liberal cowardice, you have taken down the pre-natal post. But it is forever screen-capped by at least a couple of blogs for the world to read and by which to be repulsed.
As i said in my other post: darkness cannot stand the light of truth.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Mr. Colmes,
The comments you got yesterday weren’t “vile” — by internet standard (see any column of comments in the Daily Kos) they were restrained and to the point, and called for a more thoughtful response than what you’ve given us today.
Jaru sums it up inaccurately. None of the responders to your post were “trying to accuse Alan of accusing Princess Mooseburger of birthing a mentally retarded child on purpose.” None of the commenters thought you had claimed or implied that. What many _were_ ciriticizing was the idea that any sort of maternal behavior could cause Down’s Syndrome. (I don’t recall that you claimed that either, but we can’t re-read your post now.)
Many of the responses were from readers who agree with you politically, but who thought you had badly presumed in judging how a woman (who was under a doctor’s care and advisement) should have handled her pregnancy. I’m sure you remember these.
And I’m sure you recall that many noted your new concern for unborn babies. This was admittedly sarcastic, but a nice point anyway.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Alan…
Your mother must have been stressed too. Except in your case you grew up to be a pustulant boil on the buttocks of humanity all by yourself.
Now I have lowered myself to your level.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Why not just keep the post and remove the comments?
Your rationale is weak.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Mr. Colmes,
First, you post an inflammatory and offensive post. Fine. Free speech, of course, permits that. It shouldn’t be unexpected that many would respond to you both rationally and/or emotionally to rebut a perceived, if not actual, smear.
So, your response was to purge your original comment plus all of the public responses whether they were actually “vile” or epithet-laden or not. As a matter of fact, they all weren’t. Angry? Critical? Sure, but not necessarily offensive. Of course, one man’s offense is another man’s critique, right?
What was placed in its stead? Nothing except for the follow-up post indicating “technical issues” with no reference to the deleted post. Understandable if your server was flooded from extra traffic, but not excusable if that was all you did to hide from your original commentary.
It turns out that those who thought you sent the comment down the memory hole due to the public response and critique and not due to server technicalities were right. Now, since screen captures were made in time to document your purge, you have to try and escape your hole. Consequently, we now have the “It’s About Judgment, Stupid” post “for the record.”
The problem is that your attempt to be true to the record isn’t really that true. Sure, you’ve linked to others who made statements, but you neglect to report your own originals. You are whitewashing your personal contribution to the debate and shifting responsibility to a degree to those you link. I’d call that pretty dishonest and not the record-correcting virtuosity you would surely like to project. Don’t hide behind the others’ posts.
Perhaps you could quit digging and just repost your original comments, append an apology to Mrs. Palin, and then lock the thread. For the record.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:35 pm
[...] not appointing himself the arbiter of proper motherhood, he’s rewriting history. However, his post at Liberaland today isn’t so much offensive to Allahpundit and me as it is revealing of Colmes’ lack of [...]
August 31st, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Alan, I was one of those that responded to your blog, using no cuss words. The name is Richard (talking abuout snake’s ass). By the way… I’m a Democrat.
We have a new campaign cheer-
No Bama! NoBama!
Go, Mama! Go, Mama!
August 31st, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Alan, the vile comments I saw before the post was deleted was no worse than other comments that I have seen you comment after on other threads on other days. Just admit to your extremely poor judgement and not lay blame on others behavior. But from what I am beginning to learn, that is a liberal/leftist way of dealing with bad behavior on their own parts. I have been tuning out on you lately, and now well, have a good life if that’s at all possible.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:36 pm
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…invading? Oh, so we’re invading your blog? If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. I guess you’re being censored, right?
August 31st, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Folks, Colmes is most likely going to continue to squirm around on this, as this is what he does best. If you want a more direct confrontation to Colmes on this subject, on the air, please send your response to: hannity@foxnews.com
I personally would like Hannity to ask Colmes on the Fox H&C Show to make a personal apology to the Palin family for engaging in this most tasteless show of “smear journalism” & also to ask if he took it upon himself to seek this avenue of questioning himself or were others involved. Since no apology has yet to be offered by Colmes, one must assume that it is hard to see past such vile when snakes are able to kick dirt in your face.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:36 pm
You stepped in it big time, Alan. Why don’t you just admit that you would much rather have preferred Governor Palin kill her baby son than give birth to him, which is the liberal way of coping with responsibility. Why don’t you liberals do the entire world a favor and abort yourselves out of existence.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:38 pm
“Furthermore, I in no way mean to suggest that her child’s Down Syndrome was in any way related to decisions she made. In fact I never mentioned Down Syndrome in the post. However, I apologize that my post was not more clear on that point. That is my fault, and I’ll take responsibility for not being more clear on that point.” – You
Why did you start off by rambling about conservatives?
If, in fact, you’re telling the truth, you should have either 1. Cleared up the misconceptions within the article itself (edited it!) or 2. Not posted it in the first place.
I would say that you lost my respect with this nasty stunt, Alan, but you never had it in the first place.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Colmes, you are a sick mf’er. Intelligence is not your strong suit.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Alan, YOU ABSOLUTELY SICKEN ME!!! There is an extra-warm room waiting for you in Hell. You clearly have no class, conscience, or sense of basic human decency. I hope you are promptly fired from Fox and replaced by another carbon-based liberal scumbag. Beckel comes to mind.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:43 pm
===was one of the prime venues of the birth certificate debate===
Actually, Colmes, hotair was trying to debunk the birth certificate stupidity. And said it was a stupid truther-type distraction. Don’t compound your stupidity with lies. Okay?
August 31st, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Alan,
I used to like watching you but that ain’t going to happen any more. You have shown me just what this New Democratic Party really is…………A bunch of spoiled stupid losers.
Any thing you have to say will be dismissed as crap from now on.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:45 pm
“The post about Sarah Palin’s pre-natal care was taken down because of the vile comments made by a plethora [corrected} of conservatives “
WTF?
You took it down because you are a coward and can’t face scrutiny of you weirdo beliefs.
But please keep it up, America needs guys like you to demonstrate just how unhinged the left really is.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:47 pm
LOL!!!!!!!!
Alan, I read those first comments and I read your post.
You are a weasel.
Did I just here a pop?
August 31st, 2008 at 2:48 pm
If anyone wants to see the comments, click on my name, i have a webpage where I saved them.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Ya know Alan, for a group as offensive as the conservatives are, they sure are easily offended. These pigs are hidng behind the fact that this poor kid has a disability. I can see it now. Any attack on McCain or Palin will be met with cries of “He was a POW” or “She has a special needs child”. They have no problem with tearing apart Michelle with her supposed hatred of the country for ONE slip-up that she has explained.
I particularly like these wild accusations of liberals wanting women to have abortions constantly. Their time is almost up. McCain’s pick of Palin was pathetic. Every attack on Democrats about experience is gone. Whether or not you agree with Obama, he has run the most impressive, tightly run and biggest fundraising campaign in the history of this country. Even more than Reagan or Dubya.
On the one hand they attack Obama’s patriotism and spread lies about his religious beliefs, but don’t question the Republican ticket because they have tragidies to hide behind. It’s pathetic. After Obama’s speech and McCains idiotic selection, I’m not even upset at the attacks anymore.
The Conservatives are finished. Finished. Finished. Finished. If all they have is baseless attacks, hiding behind the life experiences of their candidates, and a total lack of ideas, the average voter will not be swayed by this tactic. The questionable way Dubya was “elected” BOTH times, has given the average voter (who really don’t start paying attention until September) a reason to pay attention to the issues. The republicans haven’t come up with anything new except cheap gimmicks. Obama has laid out a plan for this country.
McCain must think women are complete idiots for thinking Clinton supporters will go to him because of his choice of Palin. This election will be a landlside for Obama and the Congress will be cleared out of Republicans. Bray like the asses you are conservatives. Your time is over…
August 31st, 2008 at 2:48 pm
You took the post down? That’s just cowardice. You said what you said and when people push back you try to hide what you wrote and then attack others for taking issue with you.
Of course people who did not read your original article now have no idea why people were angry with you. All they can see is your attacks on your critics.
How brave.
Stalin would be proud.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Hmm. My first peek into Liberaland. I think I’ll just close this door softly and back away. I “hope” the monster will just stay in there.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:50 pm
What is vile, Colmes, is you.
The filth you have descended to spewing is not rational dissent or acceptable criticism. It is, as has so long been true of you, the bleatings of a bitter and deranged mind.
At one time, Americans could disagree about politics and maintain a civil discourse. That is no longer true, thanks to you and others of your ilk.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Are you sure you removed the post because of all the vile comments? Because that wouldn’t make any sense, how about you just disable the comments for the story?
I’m guessing you removed the story because you regretted posting the story. I don’t really doubt that all the comments screwed with your host, but like I said – just disable them after the first 100 or so.
This is my timeline of events:
You had this thought pop into your head, “Hey it would be a good idea if I attacked her on her pregnancy!”
…moments later…
“Oh no, there are conservatives on the internet as well as the liberals I was hoping to reach! This could be bad, this could give those conservatives ammunition… I know, I’ll just delete the post – then make a statement without including the original story… Yeah, everyone will forget.”
For a screen capture of the story before it was sucked into the memory hole:
http://wizbangblog.com/images/2008/08/you_stay_classy_alan_colmes/AlanColmes-Sick.png
August 31st, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Alan, Do you have any children? Didn’t think so.
Have you ever been pregnant? Didn’t think so.
So then STF up.
You owe many people apologies – I doubt that you understand that.
Shame
August 31st, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Oh the conservative love and self righteous comments. You guys have learned well from your mentors….take comments out of their context and begin shouting to shush the other person. All of this to show the public that the R’s are the right and moral party to run the show in America. First, I don’t recallreading that the First Amendment Rights in this country are under suspension. This is Alan’s blog he can damn well say whatever he wants. Second, a seven month pregnant woman not heeding medical advice after her water has broken is just asking for trouble – speech or not – that baby was the important issue. Third, John McCain has shown very poor judgment in selecting Sarah Palin for a running mate. The decision just goes to show that he is more interested in the R party and obsessed with Hillary Clinton (as most R’s are and I have stated before the Clinton’s are a hate industry within itself)instead of staying with the truly important issues. I would venture to say that if John McCain had his way he probably, in his soul, wishes Joe Biden was on his ticket. All John McCain has done with his decision is to raise the Clinton’s ire and as I have said again – they will be out campaigning even more then they probably had originally anticipated to defeat the McCain/Palin ticket.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Dr. Laurie Gregg is not allowed to comment on the specific treatment of a patient under the ethics rules of the American Medical Association, nor should she be rendering a diagnosis without having seen either the patient or the patient’s medical records. I would be happy to file a formal complaint against her with the AMA and American College if you would like to continue to assert that any general information she may have given you applies to Sarah Palin and her child.
The actions that Sarah Palin took in this matter are perfectly appropriate. She called her physician, who approved her flight back to Alaska, since she was not exhibiting signs of active labor. She called him a second time from Seattle and he approved her continued travel.
It is always more appropriate for a pregnant woman to communicate with and seek treatment from her own physician, who is familiar with her case and has access to all of her testing and other medical records, than it is for her to appear in an ER far from home outside of a DIRE emergency. While a discharge of amniotic fluid does require that a patient be seen by her physician, that alone does not indicate a DIRE emergency. The general window is about 24 hours. Sarah Palin made it home well within that time frame.
Further, Down’s Syndrome alone does not indicate that a given pregnancy is of any more risk that that same pregnancy would be absent the Down’s Syndrome.
At this point you are bordering on libel. I suggest that you issue an immediate retraction and apology
August 31st, 2008 at 2:53 pm
You know, I have thought about this more.
I think we should just let the Colmes of politics have there bed.
Let them make it and then Lie there scrawny little butts down to take a nap, after their long and arduous laboring in attacking the five time labored Gov of Alaska.
It is showing the rest of these Great STates just what the democrats have become.
Bravo!
August 31st, 2008 at 2:53 pm
How can a professional makes such a stupid mistake? Maybe I should be on TV. Clearly there’s no need for common sense or comprehending cause and effect.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:55 pm
How DARE you tell a woman what she can do with her own body! /sarc
You’re a disgrace, Alan.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:55 pm
“Every attack on Democrats about experience is gone.”
Uh huh. The Republicans put the inexperienced one at the bottom and the experienced one at the top. The Democrats put the experienced one at the bottom and the inexperienced one at the top. If you think Americans can’t tell the difference, you seriously underestimate their intelligence.
“Obama has laid out a plan for this country. ”
You can tell, considering even liberals have been saying his plans are short on details.
“The Conservatives are finished. Finished. Finished. Finished.”
They said that in the 70’s, 90’s, and in 2004. We’ve been “finished” forever, yet keep winning elections.
“This election will be a landlside for Obama and the Congress will be cleared out of Republicans. ”
John Zogby’s prediction on the eve of the 2004 election: Bush will lose in a landslide and Democrats may even gain control of Congress.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Alan, I’m happy to see you have many more readers than you had listeners on Radio Graffiti. I see you still stand by your words. Good luck with that.
August 31st, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Media Matters for Leftists won’t dare report on this … Sarah isn’t the right sort of woman, and besides.. she had it coming to her.. she should enjoy it.. Isn’t that so, lefties?
August 31st, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Hooray for JoyAnn – a welcome breath of fresh air. Those fundie zombies sure take a power of stopping when the get the righteous (not!) bit between their teeth. Never mind the facts – they are still pouring out the same hateful bile after Alan made himself even clearer. Not that he needed to. The woman was clearly trying for a fundie abortion or a face-saving cover-up for her poor pregnant daughter.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Alan,
This still doesn’t change how I feel about you, and your recent post.
All respect for you is gone. And I’m sure many thousands of your former fans or semi-fans feel that way.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Alan would be revering this woman as a progressive saint had only the facts been a bit different.
A. Had she gotten that baby scrapped out as a late term abortion. In such case, Alan and his minions would ask us how anyone could DARE invade the sanctity of the woman’s discussions with her doctor or about HER BODY.
B. Had she attempted an abortion but wound with a live birth, then leaving it to die on the table. Alan would have told us that though rare, real choice requires that this be OK. (And Obama gave a speech in state office supporting that outcome. Really.)
C. Had the kid was a been born as a fetal alcohol crack / meth baby, and simply joined 4 siblings all with different baby-daddies on the public dole because the fathers were unknown or in prison. She’d be trumpeted as the the shibboleth of the democratic welfare state, the single mother in need of the state’s caring benevolence.
Sick, really.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Alan,
Your classless.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Your prior post suggested Gov. Palin did not seek proper pre-natal care and did not specifically outline that you were criticizing her decision to return home while in labor vs. the pre-natal care. You have no cause to complain about critical comments that politely pointed out how foolish and ill-bred it was to criticize her pre-natal care.
You may have a point about her decision to return home while in labor being risky. However, without knowing more about her situation, it’s hard to judge this. It’s also hard to fault a woman wanting to have her baby at her own hospital, with her own doctor attending, and with her family there. Since she has had 4 other children and went to the trouble of having pre-natal testing so she could be prepared for whatever it showed, I’m willing to assume she made a reasoned decision. Now can we please drop this entirely private matter and shift back to political issues?
This matter does not compare to the judgement of Sen. Obama choosing to associate himself with a hate-spewing preacher for 20 years or an unrepentant 70’s era bomber. If you come up with something that suggests Gov. Palin associated with abortion clinic bombers, then we can talk. Otherwise, you’re way off base.
Oh, and drop the criticism of the conservative blogs. I’ve personally read postings on Hot Air debunking the Obama birth certificate conspiracy theories. The Hot Air posters prefer to criticize the Obama/Biden ticket on legitimate issues and not wacko nonsense.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Alan,
If the comments were so vile, then put the post back up and disable comments on it. Show us how tame your post was.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Please keep attacking Palin for being a mother and making bad choices for her family. Most mothers respond very well to the idea that anything wrong with their children is their fault.
Please keep comparing Palin’s ‘decision’ to have a Down’s child with BHO’s decision to closely associate himself with the moral equivilent of a nazi war criminal and a preacher whose church was basically a chapter of the black KKK.
And don’t forget to often refer to the depth of experience necessary to run for the Presidency.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Alan:
This, too, shall pass. Hang in there.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Here is what Hot Air posted about the Birth Certificate flap:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/31/alan-colmes-should-read-for-comprehension/
They debunked it! Alan even lied about that. Did he think no one would call him on it? What a tool.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:07 pm
By the way, how did the Dobson group plan work? I guess the weather they “prayed” for showed up a little late. Oh well, Dubya and Cheney got out of the way of the convention so as not to damage McCain. Maybe THIS time Dubya can pretend he gives a shit about the country…
August 31st, 2008 at 3:07 pm
No, the most vile aspect of it is that Alan is using such a repugnant topic to try to build traffic for this lousy site. Scum.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Running in “freezing temperatures” does not show “grit”.
You can run in shorts down to about -5F (no wind) before it gets into “gritty” territory. Colder than that should not be a problem with the right gear.
Sarah Palin: panty-waist sissy.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:09 pm
This post has been debunked already and full of lies. I guess Alan will have to delete this one also.
No one cared about the birth certificate at HotAir and the few posts made on it debunked the rumors.
NO ONE, except in your own mind, has stated that anyone shouldn’t question Palin’s judgement. Any questions are welcomed.
The only judgement in question is Alan’s. Alan thinks the only women that should be allowed to be involved in politics are the ones that aborted or murdered their babys before or after birth (born alive bill anyone). You are a sick individual Alan.
Yes Alan, your hypocrisy and lies are transparent to even the dumbest of your own fan base.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:10 pm
You’re a pathetic little man.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Alan,
It’s not the fault of those who left vile comments that you pulled your post… could it be your own for posting the post?
Show the post… Show the post.. Show the post… Show the post… I didn’t even get a chance to read it.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Alan, I posted on your site last night before your took it down. “IT AIN’T GETTING ANY BETTER FOR YOU!!!!!!”
“Fox” should fire you!
August 31st, 2008 at 3:11 pm
At the end of the day, we still don’t know it we should call Palin mom or granny. LOL!
August 31st, 2008 at 3:13 pm
FuryFreak is acting as if Dobson actualy has control over the weather.
Has anyone else noticed how increasingly insane and infantile the Left is getting?
August 31st, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Alan, proofread your posts. It’s hard enough to take you seriously on H&C, but your writing on this blog confirms your carelessness.
I encourage all to e-mail Fox to complain about Colmes’s irresponsible blogging. He has EVERY right to yack all he wants. But TV viewers have a right to demand serious and respectful hosts. Colmes fails that standard. Let MSNBC and its sponsors pay his salary.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Why is Fox News throwing their money away on such a vile/lowdown dirty dog like you are Mr. Colmes?For the life of me I can not imagine why such a decent MAN like Sean Hannity will even set next to you,just to air that show! My guess would be because they have to do that in view of that network being a “FAIR&BALANCED NETWORK”!And it clearly shows the people the stark difference between a good Conservative and a liberal such as you are!He has to be a good Conservative to keep his cool I must say.I read all the comments that have vanished,and I must say that you will go to great lengths to try and cover up what you said in your article.Not to mention what all the commenters think about you.I would try and cover up too if I were in your shoes!But to blame it on something else is beyond the pale,don’t you think?Question “how can you look at your face in the mirror,knowing how people think of you now?”I am not calling you dirty names nor saying a lot of the things such as I read last night Mr. Colmes,(although I want to)I am only saying what I fill that a good Conservative can say and still be a decent Conservative!I would also like to know how you can blame all those comments on Conservatives,did you know all of them personally?I think not!You just have to blame Conservatives,because it is easier for you to do that than to put the blame where it should be!Well let me clue you in to something Mr. Colmes,I know for a FACT that all liberals are not as vile as you are,there is also lots of decent ones out there,and I also know that those same liberals will give you a piece of their minds just as the Conservatives will,when you are being such a nasty person ! I hope Sean calls you out on this on his Monday show,better still if you call yourself a MAN then you should apologize on air(Monday) to Sarah Palin,she and all of us that read your comments on your article need to hear your apology to her!Maybe then you can begin to look at yourself as a human being!
August 31st, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Two points.
First, Alan, if you have to lie to make your point, rethink your point. Your point about HotAir was a lie. Rethink your point.
Second, with regard to the quote by Dr. Laurie Gregg, who asserted that a woman should go to the hospital as soon as her water breaks, my wife’s OB’s (four of them, spread over three kids), all agreed you go to the hospital so that you can have the baby within 24 hours after the water breaks (or sooner depending on the contractions).
You know Alan, you don’t have to be an arsehole all the time. It’s true. You get paid to do it, and you do it well, but sometimes it is okay to tell the truth, or simply to shut up.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Poor little conservatives and your delicate little feelings…
August 31st, 2008 at 3:16 pm
I pray that you will never be a father. Your ignorance re pregnancy and Down Syndrome is mind-boggling.Blame the victim, you sleazy little coward.
Leaving politics out of it? How you ever got a job is a question that needs answering, and I am going to ask your employer, Fox, that question, in view of the original thread from Saturday, that I read, as it was the talk of the internet. I am calling Fox on Tuesday, as I hope anyone who read it before you deleted it will also do, and ask that you be summarily fired.
I hope with all my heart that you end up on the jobless line.
Skeletor? You are a shanda. How Sean Hannity can sit in the same room with you is a wonder.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Following is a repeat post from above:
“Folks, Colmes is most likely going to continue to squirm around on this, as this is what he does best. If you want a more direct confrontation to Colmes on this subject, on the air, please send your response to: hannity@foxnews.com
I personally would like Hannity to ask Colmes on the Fox H&C Show to make a personal apology to the Palin family for engaging in this most tasteless show of “smear journalism” & also to ask if he took it upon himself to seek this avenue of questioning himself or were others involved.”
August 31st, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Has anyone else noticed how increasingly insane and infantile the Right is getting?
August 31st, 2008 at 3:20 pm
“Furthermore, I in no way mean to suggest that her child’s Down Syndrome was in any way related to decisions she made.”
“Down Syndrome is another matter, and can sometimes be related to a mother’s age. This is a risk that older parents take, and one the Palins took consciously, and not irresponsibly.”
Criminy Alan, eight years of Bush hate has not been good for you.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:22 pm
I hope that people are taking screen shots of this page. You know, in case those vile conservatives ‘force’ Alan to remove the entire post with comments.
By the way, Alan, have you asked for Hillary’s OB/GYN records yet? You know, cause that would be a way to demonstrate her judgment. Has Obama released his medical records yet? You know, as a way to demonstrate his judgment? How curious that he hasn’t.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:23 pm
FURYUS, what do you recommend for the infantile Right? Infanticide?
August 31st, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Alan,
Don’t you miss me? I guess I get in the way of your chosen avocation. Well, since you have abandoned me, I’ll say my piece and be on my way:
1. You are a coward.
2. You blame others for your lack of common decency and egregious bad judgement.
3. You are a hack and not too intelligent to boot, in that deleting the original post and comments shows worse judgement than posting it did.
4. You should restore the original post, deleting the comments that you find “offensive”. Of course that would expose you as the not-too-bright lieing coward that you are.
5. Please don’t send this post down the memory hole too.
Oh, well, I need to go work-out now. Having not been used in so long, I’m getting a little flabby.
Goodbye forever,
Alan Colmes’ Conscience
August 31st, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Who catches a flight in their last trimester let alone board a flight after her water breaks????? What if she gave birth in mid air? Why didn’t she go to the nearest hospital? What was she trying to hide? It leaves a bad taste in my mouth and more questions than answers.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:25 pm
I thought you were pro-choice, Mr. Colmes.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Robin,
You nailed it. I’m boarded in Family Medicine and what you wrote is entirely correct.
Mr. Colmes, I reiterate:
You are contemptible and ignorant. Mrs. Palin was under the appropriate and prudent care of her physician, with whom she had a privileged and confidential relationship — as with any other physician/patient. You and your supportive fellow commentators are in no position to second-guess or impugn either Governor Palin or the medical decisions of her physician. You know neither medicine nor the specific facts of this case and you are not entitled to such.
You, sir, are utterly revolting and without a shred of decency.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Get off Hannity’s show you big dope!
August 31st, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Alan, you are disgusting. I will never watch your show again. Replace this intellectually dishonest huckster with Susan Estrich or some other lib with a brain.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Nice try, Alan. You started out taking responsibility, but, just like any good Liberal, you then blamed others for your boo boo.
You are aware that you can delete comments, right?
August 31st, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Alan,
You know dang well that you can repost your original artical and not even allow comments.
There’s a little tick mark on your admin page
next to where is says “Allow Comments” click it off.
I will post it on my blog @ http://www.thesitrep.com
Please repost it so your message can get out to your followers, but more so, so normal people can see you for what you really are.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:29 pm
[...] have prevailed, as the entry is now empty. Also not present: an apology. (Update, 3:30 p.m. — Here’s Colmes’s “apology.” You can decide whether it’s adequate or simply [...]
August 31st, 2008 at 3:29 pm
I am confused. In your post titled “Conservative Family Values” You prove that Sarah Palin and her husband had premarital sex by noting that their first baby was born eight months after they married. In this current post you tell me that her last baby was delivered after only seven months.
If seven months is long enough to carry one baby why is eight months not long enough to carry a different baby?
August 31st, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Sometimes you get lulled into the delusion that these fundie fools actually have living, working brains… then they come out en masse to prove the opposite. If any of the morons had actually bothered to read Alan’s original post rather than what their leaders/controllers told them what he ‘really meant’, they would realise that all he questioned was the idiot woman’s decision to fly for 12 hours without medical help after her waters had broken. No mention or even implication that she caused the Down’s Syndrome problem.
FUNDAMENTALISM STOPS A THINKING BRAIN
August 31st, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Wow, Alan got all of what, three people defending him?
Defend yourself with proof, Colmes, put the article back up or show the comments section and prove yourself.
But you won’t, just as Obama won’t allow anyone to know about Ayers.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Ok then John, why don’t you press Colmes to reissue the topic and vindicate himself.
But as has already been said multiple times, this is a woman’s choice for her own body, so why would you or Alan care so much?
August 31st, 2008 at 3:36 pm
JoyAnnRuscha wrote:
If he saw a thread spinning out of control because of its highly insensitive, bigoted, racist and ethnocentric tone, he had every right to make that judgement call.
Well, now, I would not support anyone using the anti-Semitic slurs Joy Ann Ruscha repeated, but just for clarification, is she equally incensed at the charges appearing on Kos’s web page that are highly insensitive, bigoted, racist and ethnocentric? Odd how when I hear of such anti-Semitic slurs being made, they are “reported” by the highly offended left, but seldom if ever seen in their natural state, on a legitimate conservative blog. Funny how that works.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:38 pm
So a million morons outweigh the actual human thinking of 3 rational adults now, huh?
Palin is either a lying throwback to the 60’s when decent folks did everything they could to hide their teenagers’ pregnancies or a reckless fool who was having one last shot at killing her kid by fundamentalist-approved methods.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:39 pm
I suggest that you read the 4 posts on hotair.com about Barack’s citizenship, and then take this post down too, before you look even more foolish than you already do. Hint: Hot Air was saying that Barack’s citizenship was NOT an appropriate topic for discussion.
Is your research always this sloppy?
August 31st, 2008 at 3:41 pm
I commented(commenter #18) about your post on Wizbang. For the most part I am being viewed as an idiot, because I am not screaming that you are a fool and classless for your post.
Just to make it clear I am very conservative, but I did not see fault in the snippet that I had read. You and I are on the opposite ends of the political spectrum, but I refuse to see mud just because a comment is made.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Nice point John McKeee. Obviously straight from the liberal heart. Keep those thoughts coming. Let it all out.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:43 pm
well Alan…I read through the “vile conservative” comments on that thread of yours ref Gov Palin. If you look up to about midway on this thread, you’ll see a link that captured them. Anyway…those posts were much less vile than what you normally get on your site. Please understand the following is dripping with sarcasm, great job
August 31st, 2008 at 3:43 pm
For the record, do we know for sure that her water BROKE? You know, birthing isn’t so simple, and it could have been the case that her water just started leaking, and the men of course figured that meant the child was comming, but she knew better. Also, remember, she called her doctor before getting on the plane. Unless you can find him and have him tell us he told her not to go, then this is a wash.
For the record, the difference between our accusations of Obama and this is that we are looking at a series of relationships that Obama claims he never had. This lasted over 10 years, so there’s plenty of evidence. You’re trying to compare that to a single incident that you could very easily be totally wrong on. It’s the equivelent of Obama not knowing Ayers or Rezko, and only going to Wrights church once, but we know that’s not the case.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:43 pm
You’re really getting you behind handed to you, Alan, and for good reason. You need to remember that The Internet Is Forever (except when spineless people delete blog posts due to “vile comments”). You could’ve taken five minutes to search hotair.com for their Obama birth certificate entries, and you would’ve saved yourself the trouble of looking like a complete imbecile. Instead, you let your visceral hatred of conservatives take over, and left yourself open to the well deserved thrashing you are now experiencing. It’s funny, I always thought that you were the level headed member of Hannity And Colmes. You really need to do a better job of backing your accusations up next time.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:44 pm
What do you consider “proper prenatal care” Alan?…abortion?
August 31st, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Mr. Colmes, since you know nothing about the circumstances surrounding the conception of the Palins’ fifth child, you are no position to comment about it, period. I repeat that message with regard your mean-spirited, intemperate bit about the claimed gestation of their first son.
But since you are now focusing on Ms. Palin’s judgement, perhaps you would like to comment on what you think is revealed about Barack Obama’s judgment given his associations with William Ayres, Jeremiah Wright and Tony Rezko?
August 31st, 2008 at 3:49 pm
You are now the official poster child for Palin Derangement Syndrome…LOL…(ya n00b)
August 31st, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Alan, you are the biggest piece of shit next to Olbermann and Matthews.
I hope fox fires your punkass.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:51 pm
—Palin is either a lying throwback to the 60’s when decent folks did everything they could to hide their teenagers’ pregnancies or a reckless fool who was having one last shot at killing her kid by fundamentalist-approved methods.—
Or…GASP!…a mother heading home to give birth to her child. I know I know, it doesn’t fit the template that all conservatives are mindless, warmongering savages, you will just have to get over that.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Hello,
I find it hard to believe that even Alan Colmes would stoop so low as to post on the internet, or anywhere else for that matter, this attack on Gov. Palin: http://wizbangblog.com/images/2008/08/you_stay_classy_alan_colmes/AlanColmes-Sick.png
This questioning of Gov. Palin’s instincts as a mother is lower than low. It’s especially low coming from a man who supports abortion. Apparently, Mr. Colmes would have preferred that Mrs. Palin kill her baby, rather than love and care for this special needs child that she sees a blessing, not a burden.
For your information, Gov. Palin was informed during the 13th week of her pregnancy that the child had Down Syndrome. Her activities just prior to giving birth had no effect in this matter.
Sarah Palin is a mother of 5, well experienced in the care and feeding of babies, before and after their birth. She certainly doesn’t need to have her prenatal care questioned by the pro-abortion crowd.
Alan Colmes owes Sarah Palin a public apology and that apology should be posted on the internet, as well as broadcast on the radio and television.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Hey Ed Morrissey!
Tell us about your Blind Wife, of whom you’re living off of!
I think if Ed spent as much time being a husband to his blind wife as he did being Mr. Blogger. He might be somebody.
Idiots.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:52 pm
[...] moreso… Here’s his latest commentary from his own website, which had an original post that DID question Sarah Palin
August 31st, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Like some others have said Alan, I use to have respect for you but that has completely flew out the window! I can’t believe how dirty some people can get. Going after a Candidate on the issue of her pregnancy and child!I wonder if you’re aware that your comments about Palin’s pregnancy have helped in spawning further, even more nasty rumors about her child. I’m a Democrat. I am however, first and most importantly mother to a 2yr old beautiful little girl, she too has Down Syndrome. Both my husband and I worked, throughout my pregnancy and after the birth of our precious child. I was able to do so and still took well care of my health during my pregnancy. We both continue to work and I can assure you ALL of my daughter’s needs are well taken care of. Most importantly, she KNOWS she is loved.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Being pro-choice doesn’t mean you don’t care about the condition of a child that WILL be born. Doing whatever you can for a child you are planning to have is much different from an abortion (as it is past the first trimester.)
August 31st, 2008 at 3:54 pm
I hope that when, after a long and healthy life with a successufull career, Alan Colmes has to look in a mirror and see his own soul….
and I hope he goes to bed tonight with that in mind.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:56 pm
So a million morons outweigh the actual human thinking of 3 rational adults now, huh?
Best you can do, huh?
August 31st, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Fundie fuckwits. I just had a look at the screen capture of Alan’s original post one of your idiot friends thoughtfully preserved. A totally straightforward question about whether the stupid (my addition) woman did the right thing by carrying on with her activities and boarding a plane after having her waters break. He quoted an obstetrician who said it was advisable to go to hospital to reduce the chance of infection and actually added that she DID consult with her doctor by phone.
So WTF is the stream of drivel in aid of?
Here it is again, for anyone who isn’t afraid of facts getting in the way of their ravings:
http://wizbangblog.com/images/2008/08/you_stay_classy_alan_colmes/AlanColmes-Sick.png
August 31st, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Why don’t you conservatives actually READ what he’s writing? It’s obvious people are just copying their response to the previous post without reading Alan’s explanation/clarification for it.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Are any of you really surprised by the idiocy of Colmes? It’s not like he’s just begun acting like a socialist know-it-all. The man (?) has been a mouth-breathing moron all of his life and continually displays his loathing of America, capitalism, freedom, etc. Of course, he plays the leftard card of “Don’t question my ______!” but he’s still a socialist, anti-American asshat who is scared that his Marxist buddy d-d-duhBama won’t lie his way into the presidency.
Besides, Alan Colmes is trivial. His views don’t mean diddly. Just ignore the idiot.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Alan, I have watched you and Hannity for years. While I am normally in total disagreement with your positions on issues, I could tolerate them until now. Not only were you completely out of line, you didn’t have the cojones to take responsibility for your egregious comments, instead you blamed respondents to your oral diarhea as the root of the problem.
A previous poster said you are a “P O S,” I would add “worthless” to that opinion. Check on the spelling of “plethora” while you are licking your wounds.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Being pro-choice doesn’t mean you don’t care about the condition of a child that WILL be born.
Tell that to Barack Infanticide Obama. You are forgetting the liberal guideline: children are just lumps of tissue until they take their first breath. Or are you claiming that babies in the womb really are people?
August 31st, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Alan, really. Are you okay? Maybe you should step away from your computer for awhile.
August 31st, 2008 at 3:59 pm
“Being pro-choice doesn’t mean you don’t care about the condition of a child that WILL be born. Doing whatever you can for a child you are planning to have is much different from an abortion (as it is past the first trimester.)
Posted by JZy”
Doing whatever you can for a child you are planning to have is much different from an abortion? JZy is this somewhat like changing the oil & maintaining a car you intend to keep versus letting the maintenance slide on a car you’re about to pass off on someone else? Please help me on this? Thanks.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:00 pm
alan
you go to the head of the list of the tinfoil crowd.it is sunday so the sabbath is over so you can be as vile as don fowler thanking God for the hurricane and the GOP convention.the demoCRAT party is broke and without shame.9pm has is now the glenn beck hour in my house.see ya later you jackass.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Hey JZY, why don’t you just read the comments from the topic in question? Oh that’s right, you can’t any longer.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Wow Alan,
Way to beclown yourself.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Jzy, is your reading comprehension broken? How can you read his circuitous attempt at an explanation and conclude that the man is doing nothing more than trying to revise and/or hide what he previously said. His “clarification” was nothing but another opportunity to fling his ad hominem attacks on Palin and conservatives. Put that in your Noam Chomsky Parser© and give it a whirl.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Wow, Colmes! You have a lot of nerve. Good thing that people like me took screencaps of the comments to illustrate just how un-offensive they really were. You probably thought we wouldn’t do that, didn’t you?
I can’t wait to listen to your show this week and hear you crucified. I hope Hannity and the rest of Fox takes swipes at you too. I’m so happy that you’re about to have a full-on “Macaca” moment. First you criticize the woman eloping and then you criticize how she carries her child? You liberals seem to think that it is proper to crucify all conservatives on the basis that SOME conservatives are hypocrites. She had that baby and also four others that were in perfect health, she’s been married a long time and I’ve never heard of her denigrating people for their “values”.
I suppose when people have abortions or when they have multiple children out of wedlock, only then, they are worthy of your defense. I wonder if your mother took all of her pre-natal supplements? It would appear not!
August 31st, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Perhaps Alan was just concerned that Palin was being “punished”(hat tip: Obama) with a child?
August 31st, 2008 at 4:04 pm
John McKee:
How about you go look up some of the nitwits that took Alan’s comments, ran with them and are all over the place, spreading rumors of Palin’s child not even being hers!! After reading quite a few of them today, I can honestly say that right now I’m truly ashamed of my own Party members.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Alan,
Be a man for once in your life. Put your own words up. This is your site and you can choose what to do. So put only your original words back up. Those are the ones that were truly vile.
But being the complete spineless coward that you are; having given away your own integrity and ability to stand behind your words shows just how shallow of a man you really are.
Tell me – how did you manage to get paid so much for your gig on Fox when you obviously have such a small brain?
How did you manage to fool so many people into believing that you have an intellect whatsoever? That you have one ounce of intellectual honesty in your spineless body?
Hey there’s a good TV show right up your alley in another country that would suit you perfectly – It’s called Cuba Live! and I am sure they would welcome you openly. Give Fidel a call and go to the country you truly belong in.
You are a worthless excuse for a human being.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:07 pm
When all you know how to use is a shovel, you might as well keep digging a hole.
Dig, Alan, dig dig.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:08 pm
You stupid lowlife moron Colmes. I can’t wait for Fox News to can your gay ant looking ass.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:08 pm
SKH.PCOLA: Hide what he previously said?
Look here: http://74.6.146.244/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=%22gives+the+timeline+associated+with+the+birth+of+her+newest+child.+%22&fr=yfp-t-501&u=www.alan.com/2008/08/30/did-palin-take-proper-pre-natal-care/&d=Q4EeOxg5RY0J
There is a cached copy of the original post in all it’s glory; he’s not hiding anything. I read it and the comments this morning, and Alan even linked in this post to other blog articles containing comments indicative of the hate that was on his.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:08 pm
For a guy who puts “a woman choice” above all other things, you have a funny way of showing it when you are critizing Sarah Palin’s choices. I guess you are only “pro-choice” if a woman wants to get an abortion. After that point, she should do things YOUR WAY.
By the way, what they said in comments was also not right. But as my mother always told me, two wrongs don’t make a right. You are still wrong Alan and until you understand this, you are no longer going to be liked (heck, you may never be liked again).
August 31st, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Alan,
I’m wondering which of these positions you endorse:
1. Obama and Palin have equally poor judgment.
2. Obama and Palin have equally good judgment.
3. Obama has overall better judgment than Palin.
4. Palin has overall better judgment than Obama.
The reason I ask is that you seem merely to be attacking Palin’s judgment on the grounds that conservatives have attacked Obama’s judgment–see your last paragraph, for example. Given that you think the attacks on Obama are without merit, however, shouldn’t you reject similar attacks on Palin? You’re relying way too heavily here on tu quoque reasoning, i.e., that if X can do it, then I can do it–even if X is doing something I abhor. If we want to be principled vis-a-vis the criticisms of Obama’s and Palin’s judgment, we need to choose one of the four items above.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Alan -
While I seldom agreed with you politically, I always respected your viewpoint and what you were trying to convey.
No more.
Your deleted post was classless and truly vile, the lowest of the low in terms of political discourse I have read in a long time. I’d expect something like that from the likes of Michael Moore but not from you.
To delete the post and them blame it on those who commented is cowardly, but that’s what we conservatives have come to expect from those on the Progressive Left – hurl fire bombs, then blame those who feel the need to respond to it for the actions you end up taking.
I have lost all respect for you and assure you I will NEVER watch H&C again. You and your comments and actions are classless, cowardly, and ignorant. You should be ashamed of yourself, but obviously you are not. I’m sure you were taught better growing up.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Dwigg: no it’s not, but I’m not about to try to change someone stance on abortion… especially not in someone’s blog comments.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:11 pm
of course medical decisions should be between the woman and her doc. (gov’r Palin did call her doc.) unless you are a republican woman then you got to ask liberal empty heads what to do.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Palin is either a lying throwback to the 60’s when decent folks did everything they could to hide their teenagers’ pregnancies or a reckless fool
Desperately trying to outrace Colmes to the lowest level of the sewer.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:12 pm
@JZY:
You cite a Google cache as “proof that he’s not hiding anything?!” Are you retarded? Just because GOOG spiders cached a copy of something that Colmes is trying to hide doesn’t negate the fact that Colmes is trying to hide what he said. That’s a feature of internet caches, not a bug.
That is, unless you think that Colmes controls GOOG? Is the GOOG cache Colmes’ personal back-up website for posting his leftard hate? You are a wily bastard!
August 31st, 2008 at 4:13 pm
What a collection of judgmental shitbags…
August 31st, 2008 at 4:15 pm
I’m not suprised! Alan and the rest of them need to make this personal. They loose on the facts every time. I listen to them always claiming “smear or attack” when the facts are against them. I have lost what little curiosity I had before I came here.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Thank God for “cached” articles, though Alan can’t be liking it so much.
The problem is that you would never know that article existed if you were to just happen by this site.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:16 pm
I agree with you that the comments got vile and out of control. But maybe that’s because your previous post was vile and unnecessary. You are in no place to make judgments on her personal pre-natal decisions. And it doesn’t let you off the hook to remove you original post and put the quotes of others in it’s place.
Disgusting!
August 31st, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Thanks for saving some of the thread…because I still stand by my Amazing “D’oh” Point ! Did you hear that?
“I have no plan…just McSame…HEY LOOK! A PRETTY LADY!”
JARu 8/31/2008 3:29 AM
Give me a break. Alan questioned her judgement because she went into early labor in Texas, gave a speech and hopped a damned flight to Alaska.
He said nothing about blaming her for having a child with Down syndrome!
Shame on you, Malkinites.
I’ve talked to several people today (in person) who are really leery of the “Governor’s water broke, she gave a speech, hopped a flight to Alaska and gave birth in a rural hospital and went to work three days later! oh PS She’s amazing because that baby has special needs and Palin is pro-life!” story. I’m studying for my MA in Special Education and if there’s anything I hate, it’s using kids for your own political gain…
If anything, Sarah Palin is the kind of woman that’s bad for America. Aren’t you conservatives supposed to care about your families and unborn children – you know? instead of endangering them by flying for ten hours after your water breaks? Little Trig had to be induced -which indicates there was a problem- and Colmes could’ve ripped into Palin like Coulter into a steak but he didn’t.
He gave her a softball.
If this is how you react to Princess Alaska being vetted by the media, then you guys are in for some serious trouble.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:18 pm
What a collection of judgmental shitbags…
I don’t know if you could call Colmes a “collection” but I agree with you, what a shitbag.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Wow !!! I’m amazed at the vitreolic name calling by Republicans or fellow indepenents. I’m actually rather ashamed to say they are acting as consevatives. No one I know either Rep or Ind would have ever resorted to such name calling. An obvious lak of a grasp of the english lanquage.
I’m also rather amazed that Obama is obviously speaking to paople who were’nt sharp enough to catch that the comment by John McCain about the 5 million income was a joke. I can’t imagine that people follow a man who obviously has so little respect for their inteligence.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:19 pm
I don’t believe your previous column was in god faith; I think you meant to insinuate, whatever you might have known about the mechanisms of trisomy 21, and however carefully you avoided dierect mention of it, that Palin caused or worsened her child’s difficulties, to anyone ignorant to believe such a connection existed.
Fruther, I think you meant to harp on her pregnancy, because you believe that having a Trisomy 21 baby is a sign, in and of itself, a sign of “poor judgement” or jumping into a difficult situation without fully appreciating the severity of the possiblie outcomes. You will deny it, but I believe it to be the case. You feel mentioning or questioning aspects of the pregnancy has the advantage of reminding others of this other choice.
I think you mean to accuse her of deliberately risking a geriatric pregnancy, and deliberately continuing a Trisomy 21 pregnancy in spite of the extra risk to herself ( from complications, including heightened risk of intrauterine demise, among others) and the necessarily negative and potentially catastrophic health and disability issues her child and that child’s family would face in the future. This is your aim. Perhaps you even meant to intimate, that after all, she had a death wish or callous unconcern, after all her “show” of continuing the pregnancy, for her Trisomy 21 affected baby.
This is your aim You are completely dishonest about it. You mean to remind people of her choice , by any means, in order to parlay the ordinary reluctance of most persons to endure a pregnancy with guaranteed difficulties ahead, into a questioning of her judgment.
BTW, Obama and Ayers had more than mere nodding aquaintance, but longstanding personal and professional connections. Why would you repeat a false notion that they barely knew each other?
d.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:20 pm
“Water breaking” does not equal “early labor.” That is epic fail on your part, JARU.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:20 pm
I think Alan hit a nerve with the John Hagee brainwashed fundy crowd.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Alan, you are most correct in stating it is about judgement – Palin has it and you don’t.
Man up and apologize. Best done on H&C live. But however you do it, you need to apologize in some format.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Oh my, did you really talk to “several people” today? Wow.
In that anecdotal vein, I also talked to “several people” (in person) who don’t have a problem with the actions of Palin. You and I seem to know a lot of “people”.
And if you’re studying for a degree in Special Education, then you must be a real fan of Cindy McCain who also received a masters in the same field.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:23 pm
I think Alan and the rest of the Obama Marxist boosters tickle the nerves of the brainwashed commie crowd, like Frank from Jonesville. Never miss an opportunity to ridicule religion and display your classiness there, Frank. Good job!
August 31st, 2008 at 4:23 pm
WOW!
Looks like Alan’s site has been taken over by the right wing wackadoodles!
I guess you all can just talk to yourselves for a while.
Buh, bye!
August 31st, 2008 at 4:23 pm
See ya, Oldcommie! We just came here to see what left-wing wackadoodles are saying. Turns out, what they’re saying is hateful lies and obfuscations about a VP nominee. Go figure. You commie ratbastards wouldn’t know “truth” if it choked you.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Mr. Colmes, I am regestering my offense at your post as well as the one previously removed ( screenshot available at Wizbang here: http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/08/31/you-stay-classy-alan-colmes.php )
I have also contacted Hannity and Colmes as well as FOX and it is my sincere hope that you will either apologize to American women of all ethnicity as well as discontinue your deplorable and feeble attempt at credibility for the higher calling of setting a standard of excellence rather than crawling into the swamp with the rest of the vermon.
Failing that, I hope they give you walking papers. You deserve them.
Rather than rant a vile screed, I will simply say that I hope your readership can see the snarky elephant in the room and not think that it is conducive to intelligent discussion or debate.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:27 pm
-indepenents
-vitreolic
-An obvious lak of a grasp of the english lanquage
-obviously speaking to paople who were’nt
-so little respect for their inteligence
Posted by Bear
Are you sure you want to open the door on questioning other people’s intelligence? You know, glass houses and all that.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
For the last time, and for the benefit of the dimwitted voyeurs who can’t restrain themselves:
PALIN. FOLLOWED. HER. PHYSICIAN’S. ADVICE.
It’s just that simple. Had her doctor advised her to “Go to the ER now!” I’m sure that’s what she would have done. (And the burden lies on *you* Alan, to prove otherwise.) Instead, based on her doctor’s skill and judgment, he advised her to return home to receive care there. His advice was sound, given the uncomplicated birth of her son. QED.
This is non-story at best and should be ignored by any sensible person. Instead, we’re treated to the spectacle of Colmes, et al., blabbering on, obfuscating, creating as many straw men and tu quoque fallacies as they can all while displaying a carefully-honed ignorance and lack of decency.
Vile? Disgusting? Yes, and a few other adjectives I could use — but then Alan would probably memory hole the thread again.
You can add a “lack of integrity” to the list.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
SKH.PCOLA: You seem convinced that he is trying to hide something. Seeing as you can see the original post, what is it that he is hiding? Everything in it was mentioned in this post.
By the way, it’s a Yahoo cache, not Google.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Alan’s comments from above:
“Down Syndrome is another matter, and can sometimes be related to a mother’s age. This is a risk that older parents take, and one the Palins took consciously, and not irresponsibly.(…)If we are going to evaluate candidates based on life decisions: what churches they attend, what religions they practice, who their preachers are, who their friends are, all of which fall under the rubrick of “judgment”, then all of this is fair game.”
Does anyone else see what Alan is saying here?
He is faulting the Palins for consciously deciding to get pregnant and have a baby when Mrs Palin is considered to be an ‘older’ woman and thus more susceptable to certain forms of birth defects. He is saying right there that this very personal and private decision taken on by Mrs Palin and her husband of 20 years is ‘fair game’ and should somehow affect the ‘evaluation’ of her ‘life decisions.’ In other words, a woman in her early 40s who purposely chooses to get pregnant and have a baby is somehow demonstrating bad judgement because of the risks involved with that pregnancy. And furthermore, that personal and private decision is morally equivalent to associating for 20 yrs with a preacher/mentor who loathes America. Or associating for 20 years with a man who carried out terrorist attacks on America.
I tell you what Alan, keep spinning ’round and digging this hole for yourself and your fellow Democrats. I can think of no faster way to alienate every last woman in America. Don’t you know that most of us are putting off having children until later in life when we are more financially prepared for them? For you to insinuate that our character and decision-making process is somehow flawed is an insult that I am positive will come back to haunt you in a big way.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
I am actually starting to see some light after reading all these things. If anyone went after Michelle regarding her pregnancy or her children or any other Candidate. I KNOW we, which includes myself, would be outraged! As a Democrat, but more importantly a Parent and a DECENT human being, I can say without a doubt we have reached an all time low, we have Out-lowed the even the Republicans now.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:31 pm
I feel sorry for Palin. She is a pawn in all of this. McCain knows that he can’t beat Obama/Biden so he picks her. I don’t think anyone else in the Republican party wanted to throw their hat in the mix. the RNC is falling apart…heck none of the big wigs are going to St. Paul. How pathetic.
To suggest that she has the experience to lead the nation is BS. Hell her own State is questionion her ability to lead. nuff said!
August 31st, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Alan makes me sad.
Sad that dueling was outlawed.
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August 31st, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Mr. Colmes,
I stand by my original comment ..Neither you, Dr. Gregg nor anyone else have any business questioning the decisions made by the Palin’s or her Dr. concerning Trig either prenatal or postnatal. Now if you want to make it a question of judgement I suggest you dopn’t go there considering Senator Obama’s considerable lack of judgement on so many issue. And your poor judgement in deleting the original post due to “vile” comments by “conservative” commenters. Let see some of the “vile” comments by your defenders here on this post. Smart Mouthed Jerk attacking Ed Morrissey for “living” off his blind wife. Multiple postings by Furyus and John McKee and JoAnnRuysca. So I guess you will be deleting this post due to “vile” posts by conservative commenters too. The fact is you opened your self up when you intruded into private matters and as was posted earlier Dr. Gregg stepped way out of bounds by even commenting to you concerning any medical issue. My advice to you is either don’t post about personal issues of other or be prepared to get your clock cleaned as a result. And to all you “vile” conservative posters..don’t go daily kos..make your points without getting personal..it makes it harder for people like Mr. Colmes to play the victim.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:35 pm
JZY:
Colmes didn’t put what you see in the Yahoo! cache there. He deleted the entire post with comments from this website. Yahoo! spiders trolled the internet and grabbed a copy before he deleted the material. Are you grasping how this works? If Colmes disallowed the spiders from indexing this website, he could have erased his small piece of history, and NOBODY would be the wiser (unless somebody did a screen capture).
There’a difference between being able to find/see/read something that somebody threw away and saying that if you found it, then obviously they weren’t trying to hide it. I really don’t grasp how you fail to grok what is occurring here.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Your biggest problem Alan is that you never shut your mouth! You interrupt guests that you don’t want to be heard. You are the rudest person on any news network! Shut your mouth for once and you won’t say dispecable things!
You should really be ashamed and should make a public apology to Mrs. Palin and the American people.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:38 pm
But I actually don’t think you will because you are a coward!
August 31st, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Folks…How something as small as ones mouth can be a “career ender” for his whole body.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Jan Evans…sweety I think you are mistaking Alan for Sean. Sean is a pig.
When the truth comes out, Palin will look like a silly school girl.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:41 pm
SKH.PCOLA: I am well aware of how the Internet works, I have studied it extensively. (And screen captures were done and posted on other blogs.)
The point is that just because he removed an article doesn’t mean he is “hiding” anything.
Having only one article up (this one) on the matter lets everything be consolidated and keeps people from being misled. If there is nothing to hide, then you can’t be hiding anything.
I think I have to explain further for you: If you can’t look at the original article and say “Aha! Here’s something you didn’t mention in your new post!” you simply have no basis for saying that he is hiding anything.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Children of the Arugula
All that and I’m still smart enough to know that it was a joke. Thanks for pointing out that their even less inteligent than I am.
BTW: Inteligence and typing skill became the same thing? When did that happen?
August 31st, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Trace be sweatin’ November.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:46 pm
JZY:
HE ERASED AN ENTIRE POST AND ALL OF THE COMMENTS. SAID POST AND COMMENTS ARE NOT IN THIS CURRENT, “CONSOLIDATED” POST. HE DELETED THEM, AND BY DEFINITION, IS HIDING WHAT HE SAID.
Jeebus. Are you being intentionally obtuse, or are you so emotionally-invested in your ideology that you will not concede to the fact?
August 31st, 2008 at 4:46 pm
It is amazing that you criticize Sarah Palin for her decision regarding her pregnancy but support a woman’s right to kill her child through abortion.
I like Fox News but your haughty rhetoric for anything conservative is the reason I will not watch Hannity and Colmes. Unless someone suggested you deserved to die, as the liberal bloggers did about Tony Snow, I really doubt that any comments were vile or even mildly disgusting.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Alan Combs, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Plegar, Farakan, Michele, and other wackos with their hate filled hearts for this Country, is exactly why Hussein Obama will lose to McCain in a Landslide in November. Combs, you stink to high heaven.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Fox News has been on in my house on three TVs as a kind of electronic wall paper all day long. Best way to keep up on breaking news.
I’ve watched O’Reily, H&C, etc. since their inception. But, for the last year, when watching H&C, if I am near a remote, I reach over and punch the mute button when you come on the air, Alan. I finally had it with your chronic dissembling and your habit of making controversial comments just at a hard break, so that they go unchallenged.
In my eyes you had reached the low in journalism and commentary.
I will now be contacting Fox News Network to share my observations with them, and to let them know that H&C no longer exist in their evening lineup as far as I am concerned. I know that issues raised by one person won’t change much, but I have the feeling that you may just now begin to see the serious problems you may be causing for Fox News.
Having and stating a valid and supportable opinion with a freedom to do so is the American way. To protest about the new low you have achieved is an American duty.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Colmes, any interest in the judgement of Obama & his 20 year relationship with William “Guilty as hell, free as a bird — America is a great country” Ayers? No that would be too professional wouldn’t it? As well as not serving your agenda to personally attack Gov. Palin regarding a personal matter.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Just in case you WERE suggesting that she was the cause of Trig having DS, I want to make this scientific fact clear…. Having been a neonatal intensive care nurse for 4 1/2 years, I can tell you with absolute certainty that having a baby with Trisomy 13 has nothing to do with ANYONE not getting pre-natal care. It has more to do with the fact that she had a baby in her forties. If you will look at the research on babies w/Trisomy 13, a very high percentage of these babies are born to older moms. I thought this was common knowledge, but maybe not. Maybe I just thought that b/c I have worked in the healthcare industry for a long time, and it is common knowledge there. Trisomy 13 is a genetic mutation which not a single human being has control over. In all my time of taking care of these babies, I can only remember one little one from a young (in her 20’s) mom. All the rest were moms at least in their mid-30s. In fact, it is a very common thing for us to tell the mom that there was nothing she could have done to prevent it from happening. It is just one of those really unexpected things that happen in life. The fact that she and her husband decided to continue on with the pregnancy speaks volumes about them, in my opinion. They could have had an abortion, and no one would have been the wiser. Instead, they chose to stick by what they believed was the moral thing to do. I commend that strength and good character. That is what I would call good judgment. God bless Sarah and her precious Trig.
Alan, I have watched you on H&C for a long time; and while I rarely agreed with you, I always thought you had good intentions. Well, you just blew that. What you said was tasteless. And if you were thinking about posting such an article, why not get some scientific facts before doing it? It is beyond me why liberals would want to say things like this when it will only backfire on them. Most women who are mothers, (Republicans, Democrats, Independants alike) are going to find what you said reprehensible. They are going to find themselves wanting to defend Palin as fellow mothers. You have made a grave mistake. No matter how you say you meant it, it came across as a complete slimeball, sexist thing to say. Good luck with the women, Alan.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
BTW: Inteligence and typing skill became the same thing? When did that happen?
I don’t know, too stupid to know the words have been spelled incorrectly perhaps?
August 31st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
This thread and the liberals participating therein display the favorite intellectual tactic of their “side”: Sticking their collective fingers in their ears and humming filthy hippy music when confronted with reality.
Whatever. McLame/Palin 2008! Defeat the commies, vote for Juan and the mommy!
August 31st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Alan Colmes, intellectually dishonest and just another liberal wuss. Any resistance to the fantasy world he and other liberals need to create so all their beliefs can co-exist need to be destroyed. Free speech for me but not for thee….right Alan?! Wow, are you a little cry-baby!!
…And please stop interrupting your guests on Hannity & Colmes when they poke holes in your flimsy positions.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
The funniest aspect of fundamentalism is that it encourages people to behave like nasty, vengeful little pricks toward anyone that disagrees with them – quite the opposite of the teachings of Jesus. How easy it would be for them to consruct a Taleban state if it weren’t for the millions of Americans who still have a braincell or two to rub together.
“Turn the other cheek”
“Judge not lest thou shalt be judged”
“Blessed are the meek”
“Blessed are the peacemakers”
“It’s easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven”
“Care not for tomorrow”
“Give away all your possessions to the poor”
Nah, none of that namby-pamby shit for us. Give us someone to hate!! Them niggers and commies and kikes and feminazis and lubbrals and moslems will do for starters!
Ironically, the dreaded lubbrals and ’secular progressives’ think it would be really cool if people could just be nice to each other, if we could progress to a society that was fairer and more compassionate to all, where undeserved privilege and the savage law of the jungle didn’t always prevail… sort of Christian, really, don’t you think?
WHO WOULD JESUS TORTURE?
August 31st, 2008 at 4:52 pm
John Mckee…..wow, was that post dumb. Was there a point in there except that you may be on meds?
August 31st, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Choice – that’s the big word for liberals. A womans right to choose to abort. Protect that by all means. But that a very independent woman, who knows her own body, makes a choice not to rush into hospital is suddenly very wrong. Alan, I gather it’s fine by you to kill a fetus, but — oh, what’s the use. Liberal men know all about ob/gyn and birthing babies.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:55 pm
WHO WOULD JESUS TORTURE?
Posted by John McKee
Not babies, whether in the womb or out of the womb.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:57 pm
SKH.PCOLA: So “deleting” something is synonymous with “hiding” now? I think you need a dictionary… according to you any file I delete on my computer I am also, “by definition”, trying to hide from someone.
Show me any dictionary that defines delete as hiding something.
August 31st, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Alan Colmes; INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST, or SELF-DELUDED ? Either way, simply PATHETIC!
August 31st, 2008 at 4:59 pm
I think John McKee is operating under the mistaken impression that conservatives are mostly fundamentalist Christians. Not true. I’m not religious at all, and neither are most of the conservatives who I know. Further, the most rabid fundamentalists perversely support Dems. Most of the churches around these parts are liberal strongholds. Strange, but true.
And that’s pretty classy, introducing all of those racist terms. You damned commies don’t even try to hide your disdain for minorities nowadays.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:00 pm
WHO WOULD JESUS TORTURE?
You must be under the impression that all Republicans and Conservatives are Christian?
BTW, in an earlier post you used the term “a million morons”, would you describe that term as being indicative of what a “nice lubbral or secular progressive” would normally say?
August 31st, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Anything rational to respond with, haters? To tell you the truth, I wouldn’t be so downright nasty if I didn’t think you secretly enjoyed it – helps with the old martyr syndrome when the unsaved abuse you for the dribbling idiots you are.
Could someone point me to the scriptural passage that brings up Jayssuss’s attitude to abortion? Is it before or after the bit where god (small g deliberate) lovingly commanded you to murder your cheeky children, women who don’t scream loudly enough while being raped, people who dare to wear cotton and wool at the same time and farmers who plant more than one crop in a field?
Just so I can be theologically sound, obviously.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:05 pm
JZY:
If you are going to do the Chomskyite parsing and get into semantics, then “hiding” is dependent upon intent. All “deleting” isn’t “hiding,” nor is it necessary to “delete” to “hide.” Colmes could have (and actually may have) simply changed the URL of the post to “hide” it, without ever “deleting” it. The net result would be that he was “hiding” it, via the not-very-difficult to understand method of…not displaying it to people.
Again, the simple fact that you can find it in an internet cache doesn’t refute or disprove Colmes’ “deleting” of the post and comments.
I’m done with you. Your wide-eyed, sophomoric attempt to draw me into the wilderness of liberal asshattery worked, momentarily. You have reinforced my previously-held belief that liberals are dishonest debaters and conveniently and easily lie to bolster their facile arguments. Good day, Sir! Or Madame, as the case may be.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Rogers Cadenhead is taking a some heat at his blog also. Good.
http://www.cadenhead.org/workbench/news/3395/sarah-palins-questionable-judgment#discuss
August 31st, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Hah, nice parsing there JZY. Alan deletes and entire thread with it’s comments, even though older threads are still available for viewing, some with admittedly coarse comments. Why didn’t he delete those threads also?
August 31st, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Observation: John Mckee has introduced a new level of low into the thread. I’m not a Christian, but neither do I hate Christians, as this commutard does. He must have been smacked up side the noggin too often as a child. Or as an adult. I’d imagine that a vile pansy like him would invite regular beatings from his intellectual and moral betters.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:10 pm
John McKee
Where in the old testament did you stop reading the Bible?
August 31st, 2008 at 5:10 pm
“Just so I can be theologically sound, obviously.”
Posted by John McKee
First, work on just being sound. Once that is accomplished by all means go on to study some theology.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Actually Trace, I believe you are a silly school girl sneaking a post on your daddy’s computer. Bet you have a BIG mouth too!
August 31st, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Insanity alert! The SKH person (I use the term loosely) is now claiming that the fundie nutcases are mostly liberals and, even worse, De-mon-crats. Tha’s up there with the toe-sucking slug Morris telling us the Iraqis invited the US in!
One day we’ll all be staring at lesser lifeforms like the fundie haters here in special zoos.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Alan….soooo, instead of apologizing like a decent human being you blame the people who pointed out how offensive what you said was?
“The post about Sarah Palin’s pre-natal care was taken down because of the vile comments made by a plethora of conservatives who decided to invade the site and show us just how decent and value-driven some of them are.”
Classic, Alan, really.
You do realize of course that you can disable comments on your site if you wish? Of course you do…even you aren’t this stupid.
But still…who knows…you obviously haven’t figured out spell check [ pletehora???]…….
And “invaded”?
You don’t have to allow anyone to comment that you don’t want to, you don’t even have to allow comments. Maybe you should just step away from that scary glowing box Alan [also known as a computer] before you hurt yourself further. Although I’m sure if you could only figure out how to use the damn thing it would come in really handy looking for a new job.
Or was it just that you were so panicked you just threw this attempt at covering your backside up so fast that you didn’t bother to proof it first?
After throwing the first post down the memory hole, you then choose [hey, you are pro choice right?] to write another slanderous piece this time vilifying the people who made the comments on your first POS…good try.I, and many others, saved a full screen shot.
You deleted the post because you know that come Tuesday morning FOX news switchboard will be lit up like a Christmas tree…and *hint* to you, it won’t be in support of your sick and vicious smear campaign.
I always wondered why you were ever chosen for the job on H&C in the first place. You have a face for radio and the interviewing skills of a spoiled child.
Perhaps now that mistake can be rectified, hmm?
August 31st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Like many of the poeple here Alan, I once had some respect for you. I disagreed with you on almost every single, but I felt you played a mostly fair game of political football.
But you sunk into the Olbermann gutter with this.
Rogers wrote a hit peice he knew was unfair and disgusting even as he wrote it, and you picked it and went national with it as if it were a ’story’ worthy of real scrutiny. In doing so, you and Rogers, open a pandoras box of filthy unbridled hate from with the hard left.
Sarah Palin by all accounts is an honest hard working women who is willing to confront corruption even in her own party. If you had policy issues with her and posted them I could understand, but what you did was go into the worst pocket of slanderous trash and try to make a story out of nothing.
I think you need to check yourself hard if this is the kind of gutter trash politics you see as fair game. You need to be called on your own bad judgement and hard.
Shame on you.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Again John, why do you believe that all Repubs and Conservatives are Christian? Would you accept it if I said all liberals and democrats are America-haters?
“Dribbling idiots”? Is this more of the vaunted liberal desire to be “nice” to one another? If so, count me out, I’m not sure I could handle daily doses of your type of kindness.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:13 pm
John McKee has obviously never heard of a church that advocates for liberal causes or Democrat candidates. I suggest that he put down the bong and do a cursory GOOG search for some evidence before more ignorance spews forth from his filthy fingertips.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:16 pm
And BTW people, call the California medical board and demand that the “doctor” be taken to task for her comments.
It’s time to put a stop to this appalling lack of ethics on the part of the fringe lunatic left….and the good “doctor” is obviously in that camp.
After all, unlike Colmes…she absolutely knows better.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:18 pm
One day we’ll all be staring at lesser lifeforms like the fundie haters here in special zoos.
Right on brother! Quash speech you don’t like and lock up the transgressors, that will really show the world the liberal desire for kindness. Like you said, John:
“If people could just be nice to each other, if we could progress to a society that was fairer and more compassionate to all, where undeserved privilege and the savage law of the jungle didn’t always prevail…”
August 31st, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Hey, Colmes, A-Hole, big time.
Did you know on the flight back to Alaska that in Seattle she was given a actual personal medical check up by a actual live doctor (not by some lefty pontificating cyber space hack) who gave the opinion Palin was OK to continue on to Anchorage?
Not surprised that some of the moonbat Kossacks and DU filth mongers are here defending you, only surprise is how few they are in number.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:20 pm
John McKee has obviously never heard of a church that advocates for liberal causes or Democrat candidates.
Neither has Obama, even though he sat in it’s pews for twenty years.
There go those darn Christians again, John, spouting off about 911 and “God damn America”.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Did anyone ever see JZY dig a hole in the woods and bury girlie panties there? I never did.
But if anyone ever did – that’s not ‘hiding’ because many people own shovels, backhoes even.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:24 pm
If people could just be nice to each other, if we could progress to a society that was fairer and more compassionate to all, where undeserved privilege and the savage law of the jungle didn’t always prevail
I wonder if John Mckee has ever been to Africa, there are all sorts of “fundie” Christian NGO’s who tend to poor, diseased and oftentimes helpless people, supported by a tidal wave of money donated by churchgoers back here in America.
If he wants to start being nice to people, I suppose he could start there.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Oh poor Alan, I was hoping you’d be man enough to apologize. We all make mistakes and say things we wish we hadn’t but you’ve morphed into the victim. You have lost what little credibility you may have had. I’m sure you keep telling yourself what a great cutting edge commentator you are but the reality is that you have now become a useful idiot for the left and a mean little joke. How does it feel to know that at least 150 million people are laughing at your pathetic attempt to deflect blame for your own stupidity. Man up you wuss.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:29 pm
:) Alan, I’m still wondering, where do you get all these stupid people raiding your posts? You seem to be more popular among conservatives than among liberals.
Some morons still think that Alan blamed Palin for her kid’s Down’s syndrome, but he never even mentioned Down’s in the original post! In this post he explicitly says that he DID NOT blame her for that!
Other morons think that we should not question somebody’s judgment JUST because they have a kid with Down’s. Excuse me, but THE BEST TIME to question someone’s judgment is in a case of emergency! Only then you see the person’s true colors, and what Palin did was very risky for her kid. Instead of attacking Alan for simply stating facts about Palin, maybe you should go question her actions (or maybe you would never do that because her kid has Down’s)
A 3rd group of morons blame Alan for “hiding” his original post. First of all there is no such thing as “hiding” something that was posted online because once it’s up, anyone can make a copy of it for the record. Alan was probably sick of all the namecalling, hatemongering, lack of logic and reason, contrived accusations, etc. I’m sure he was shocked, just like I was, to see how many stupid people he attracted with that post. Well, let me tell you Alan does NOT like stupid hatemongers with no sense of reason, and who can blame him for that…
Maybe you just hate Alan, no matter what he says. Maybe you hate all liberals and democrats, no matter what truth they speak and what evidence they present. Maybe you hate the fact that Obama will DESTROY McSame in November, or because McSame already lost the election by picking some woman from Alaska (I forget her name…)
I didn’t see a single post here with substance, logic, or reason. None of you actually refuted or even responded to Alan’s true claim about Palin’s lack of judgment. All you can do is spew names and hatred. That would be because you CAN’T defend Palin.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:29 pm
More like Colmes can’t hide his blind, seething hatred.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:32 pm
BCC, if all that was true, why didn’t Colmes simply delete the comments or make them inaccessible?
If he felt strongly enough to make the statement that he did, surely he would want people to at least know what he is thinking which, after all, is the purpose of this type of blog.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Dear Alan,
(cough)BS
August 31st, 2008 at 5:35 pm
I didn’t see a single post here with substance, logic, or reason.
And your rambling screed continues the sorry legacy, for all of your preening faux-intellectual attempts.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Joe Biden was sworn into the senate at the hospital bed of his hurt sons. His wife and daughter had just died in a car accident. He was hailed as a hero. But the liberal, sexist men wants to look down at Sarah Palin because she has a 5 month old baby and goes back to work shortly after. Now that she is VP, she takes the baby on the road with her. It shows John McCain camp is baby friendly and cares about young mothers. Hope more business places will be family friendly.
The real sexist are the liberal men in the Democratic Party and the media. Lets hear them discuss Sarah Palin on her record and not her gender
August 31st, 2008 at 5:36 pm
BCC…yet again:
“I didn’t see a single post here with substance, logic, or reason.”
Perhaps you could try R-E-A-D-I-N-G ?
August 31st, 2008 at 5:37 pm
None of you actually refuted or even responded to Alan’s true claim about Palin’s lack of judgment.
Strong words and potentially damaging or so some on the left would believe (obviously you do); wouldn’t it make sense to leave the thread up if for no other reason than to inform the readers?
August 31st, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Alan,
Your explanation is a failure. There is no excuse for what you were implying. You and everyone else knows what your objectives are. You are a disgusting, low life pig. I hope at the very least, you were well taken care of for these attacks as I doubt you’ll be on the air much longer.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Wow…Alan…you went from respected journalist to flaming liberal parrot…and not bold-faced liar (first the lie about server problems, now the lie about Hot Air’s non-existent complaints about O’Carter’s birth certificate).
Alan, you are now the journalistic equivalent of the unholy and impossible lovechild of Dan Rather, Jayson Blair, and Keith Olbermann.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:41 pm
That would be because you CAN’T defend Palin.
Actually we can and we have, which is why Colmes decided to delete an entire thread and then issue a lame defense which blames others.
Nice attempt at obfuscation about Obama’s misdeeds though, I will give Colmes that; it still won’t help him win though. It’s game over for Obama, he just doesn’t know it yet.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:43 pm
“Excuse me, but THE BEST TIME to question someone’s judgment is in a case of emergency!” BCC, what emergency? What was the symptomology that made this an emergency? You’ve discussed this with her OB/Gyn? Please let us know what was said to make this an emergency, Alan surely knows but won’t tell. Women have gone into labor, oh for at least mt entire lifetime, & it’s not necessarily an emergency. If it was indeed an emergency, I would think here Ob/Gyn would be best to make that call. Thanks for playing doctor anyway, will you be charging us?
August 31st, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Common sense tells me a liberal would have wanted the comments to stay, just like Alan routinely posts the hate emails he gets.
Kudos to Alan for knowing his post was in poor taste and removing it.
Shame on Alan for blaming others for his good character. That’s what happens when you fear the backlash from his fellow liberals.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Nothing against the philosophy of Christianity whatsoever – it would be a lovely world if everyone could follow the teachings of Jesus. The idea of god and so on is as ridiculous and unfounded as the Easter Bunny, the stork and Santa Claus, but if it helps people feel good and do good, more power to it. The good works of Christians, yes even the fundies, in Africa and other needy regions are only to be applauded.
“Turn the other cheek”
“Judge not lest thou shalt be judged”
“Blessed are the meek”
“Blessed are the peacemakers”
“It’s easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven”
“Care not for tomorrow”
“Give away all your possessions to the poor”
All good liberal stuff, if a little impractical and, dare I say it, socialist.
It’s a pity good, intelligent Americans like Obama and Bill have to pretend to believe such nonsense before they can even get elected as a dogcatcher, however.
Without resorting to personal abuse (that’s my job, as the hateful heathen here!) I would really appreciate answers to the questions I posed above -
Could someone point me to the scriptural passage that brings up Jayssuss’s attitude to abortion?
Is it before or after the bit where god (small g deliberate) lovingly commanded you to murder your cheeky children, women who don’t scream loudly enough while being raped, people who dare to wear cotton and wool at the same time and farmers who plant more than one crop in a field?
Slaying innocent children? Smiting whole peoples? Condemning unborn generations? The inspired word of God? What utter twaddle.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Semantics? You’re the one that said “HE DELETED THEM, AND BY DEFINITION, IS HIDING WHAT HE SAID.” Don’t say something if you don’t mean it.
Pcola, if you can see what you claim he was “hiding,” and it turns out that there was nothing to hide, then obviously that is proof that there was no intent. Hiding has certain connotations associated with it, and using that type of language shows an attack on one’s character which, in this case, has been shown to be baseless.
And driving my car away from my house (moving a webpage)doesn’t mean I’m hiding it from my neighbors, either.
As for the comments, you’re not missing out on much (of course I don’t expect you to believe me on this.) It was just the same old thing of people misinterpreting what he said as blaming the pre-natal care for Down syndrome, and a few people attempting to clarify. In this article Alan apologized for not being so clear on that, yet people still don’t read the article and continue with the same drivel.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Alan, I would make two points if I could;
1. What a woman does is between her, her doctor and her God if she believes in one. I hear this quite often from my pro-choice friends and family. I don’t imagine that any of them would be hypocritical and question Sarah Palin’s decisions/actions thinking that the “fetus” was endangered…wouldn’t they also be concerned about endangering a fetus during an abortion? Well, only if it was a “life”. No, none of them would dare step into that minefield. If we are going to start questioning women about their decisions, then that breaks their right to privacy upon which much of Roe vs. Wade rests. If the left wishes to broach this subject arbitrarily (you’re not mentioning this just because she’s a conservative are you?), well then by all means, “Bring it on!”
2. The baby was obviously delivered healthy and happily, demonstrating once again that the mother knows best. As a father I can tell you that my wife knew better than even her doctor and the nurses what was going on with her pregnancies. As mentioned above, the water breaking isn’t a big deal, my wife’s broke on our second child 14 hours before she was born but my wife was in no hurry to get to the hospital, in fact she decided to wait for me to come home from work and then it was just to go into a scheduled appointment. The person in the absolute best position and experience with her own pregnancies is Sarah Palin. Especially considering she had gone through 4 other births and had round-the-clock updates on her 5th (heh), she and her doctor are the only ones that can make this judgement call. Concerning the comments of the Ob/Gyn in Sacremento, there is a risk of infection with even a paper cut, but it isn’t likely that any of us go out of our way to get the “wound” properly dressed and disinfected.
If Barack Obama decided not to have a “strange wart” removed and it later turned out to be a melanoma, I wouldn’t question his judgement. However, if he attended his spiritual advisor’s church for 20 years without knowing what he was preaching and associated with a known and unrepentant terrorist, I would question his judgment, ethics and character.
When you have something of actual merit with which to attribute to Sarah Palin, let’s try this again, shall we?
August 31st, 2008 at 5:52 pm
actually BCC if you had read the comments without those bias eyes you would see that Alan’s claim of Palin’s judgment has been totally debunked and as a skinny ugly man that someone wouldn’t want to have children with Alan will never get to sit in judgement of Palin’s choices as to where and how to have her 5 children. If Alan and the left think they are going to make headway going after a woman’s choices about her children they are CRAZY and this election WILL BE LOST.
Keep it classy liberals because WE enjoy the virtual mental gymnastics you all have been through in the last 48 hours.
Oh and by the way, when your #1 is debating experience with out #2 GAME OVER.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Hey, BCC. Don’t you think when a woman has been pregnant 4 previous times, that qualifies her to know her body fairly well as to the progression of her labor?
I’ve had two babies, and I think I’m getting the hang of it. Many women wait hours and hours after their water breaks before going to the hospital. This is quite common. Here’s the difference between Palin and Obama. You don’t know the specifics of her situation, and therefore you have no right to judge. We DO know the specifics of the Wright/Ayers/Pflager debacle, and we DO have the right to judge. Or should I also mention Obama’s lack of judgment when it comes to Infanticide? He is a BARBARIAN. He doesn’t have a problem with letting newborn babies, who have taken a breath of life die as long as they are still alive as a result of a botched abortion. Go look up his time in the Illinois state legislature. He voted down the Infant Born Alive Protection Act THREE times! Yes, three times! You liberals are so panicked about the conservatives enthusiasm, you are spewing all kinds of crazy stuff that is just reinforcing our glee at the Palin pick.
August 31st, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Sick, twisted logic….brought to you by the same people who give us “What the meaning of is, is”!!!
August 31st, 2008 at 5:55 pm
It’s time it became Hannity and Juan Williams. Alan Colmes needs to learn the meaning of class and dignity, not wretched gutter politics.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:02 pm
It’s a pity good, intelligent Americans like Obama and Bill have to pretend to believe such nonsense before they can even get elected as a dogcatcher, however.
“Senator Barack Obama announced that he not only supports the “Faith Based and Community Initiative”,but that he will expand it’s reach if he is elected President.”
Barack Obama attended the Christian church of Reverend Wright for over twenty years.
I would expect you to be angry that Obama would use your tax dollars to fund faith-based organizations whose beliefs he is only “pretending” to follow.
So Obama is either lying, pandering or really believes what he says and how he acts in regards to Christianity, your choice.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Without resorting to personal abuse (that’s my job, as the hateful heathen here!)
You are getting in the way of the stated liberal purpose of uniting the earth by being “nice” to everyone, which makes you sound as if you belong to the party which you claim is full of haters.
Odd logic that I won’t even try to understand.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Alan,
Unlike many now posting, I can’t say this episode has caused me to lose any respect for you. I never had any to begin with, and it’s hard to imagine how anyone of normal intelligence could. But, I still think your TV job is safe, since you continue to serve your purpose of being much uglier than Hannity (not so hard), and being more stupid than Hannity (not so easy).
August 31st, 2008 at 6:10 pm
I’ll take lying and a bit of pandering, thanks Children. Just like I think Hannity, Coulter and Corsi are complete and utter frauds. At least Obama takes his Christian pretense as far as acting as if he cares about people and tries to help the less fortunate.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:12 pm
ROFLMAO. You can tell it is Sunday meeting time around here!
August 31st, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Wow… you are scum.
But thanks for giving the Right such great material. You’ll be the talk of talk radio on Monday.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:16 pm
As I posted here yesterday, Alan (which you have now so courteously deleted) is that I used to respectfully disagree with you on most points. Respect ended with your vile and misogynistic attacks yesterday. Today, I have moved to absolute loathing.
Your argument yesterday was as repulsive as it was senseless. As I said then, I will trust a woman with having her fifth child on the question of how to best address the needs of her own body (and that of her unborn child) hands down over your after the fact speculation. You somehow suggest that a third party doctor, who had to involvement with Palin’s care ever, could also better judge this issue than her own OBGYN who she consulted with throughout the pregnancy as well as on the issue you raised.
I am certain that I could find a doctor who would declare that you are a mentally imbalanced hate monger, based on your judgment of this issue. Would you publish that article?
Speaking of judgment, how can you defend deleting your own words in order to combat criticism of them? Further, you delete your offensive statements, then write an article suggesting that you are the victim of a hateful smear campaign? So much for credibility. Every blog on earth can be set to disallow comments and inappropriate comments can be deleted on their own.
I also defended you against, what I agree, were some completely inappropriate comments. Unlike you, the majority of people including myself, can separate personal loathing from reasoned condemnation enough to remain civilized. And the vast majority of comments were civilized.
Now today,you delete, paraphrase and revise your statements, claim victimhood and then suggest that your baseless and unwarranted attack was somehow analysis of judgment related to a Presidential campaign. This is even less credible. First, by result of your alleged misjudgment. Unlike your candidates failures, the result of the subject of your attack is a beautiful, healthy child. The results from your “pot-kettle-black” defensive argument was astounding, hate filled speeches, defense of an admitted domestic terrorist and shielding the character of a convicted felon.
But this issue goes beyond that. To suggest that a woman has been neglectful of a clearly loved and well cared for child is somehow relevant to a political campaign is nearly as disgusting and ridiculous as it is to compare it to questioning a political candidates 20+ year personal and political associations. You wistfully neglect that Rev. Wright held a significant position in Obama’s Presidential campaign from before day one. You also neglect that Obama’s campaign was launched and funded at the home of Bill Ayres and that he served on an educational reformation board with the same admitted terrorist. You neglect that all his campaigns throughout his lifetime were funded by Rezco and that he engaged in a legitimately questionable personal business deal with this man after he had come under investigation for charges of embezzlement, corrupt real estate deals and money laundering and was subsequently convicted. Even Obama called that move and error in judgment, but you still defend it.
Every criticism of Obama’s relationships with these men is a clear matter of political judgment and legitimate personal character. Attacking woman’s decision to travel with the consent of her personal physician and resulting birth of a healthy, special needs child is nothing more than a slanderous (or in this case libelous) personal attack.
You are a disgrace to your chosen profession and your comments are by far worse that those that Don Imus was fired and blacklisted for. If your employers have even the most remote sense of self respect and decency, you will be similarly terminated. Even through that would be the right thing to do, I hope it does not happen; since it would only give greater audience to the vile filth that you spew and provide the opportunity for you to make further, baseless claims victimhood.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:17 pm
I think if Sarah Palin’s labor is fair game to scrutiny, then the left will have to concede the medical records of all women running for public office is fair game based upon the idea of “decision making skills”.
Sounds like a lot of people would have a problem with that. I certainly cannot support that proposition, perhaps others would like to weigh in?
August 31st, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Maybe Obamessiah should start his campaign of “help[ing] the less fortunate” by helping his family, who live in huts and shacks. He could make good on his pledge to send some of his $millions to fund a school named after him. But, hey, I know how you “progressives” put more stock in what lying Marxists say, instead of what the thieving Marxists actually do (or don’t do, as is the case here).
August 31st, 2008 at 6:19 pm
I love how your link to hotair.com, in an effort to prove they had a part in the “birth certificate scandal”, is a post where they DEBUNK the birth certificate scandal.
Do you even bother to READ what you post?
August 31st, 2008 at 6:21 pm
It’s About Judgment, Stupid
Right. And we found yours lacking.
McCain/Palin 08
August 31st, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Of course you will take Obama’s lying, you have no choice, you’ve been dealing with it since his campaign began.
You would think that the Pandering Christian™ might try to help his “less fortunate” half-brother; “acting as if he cares” is right.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Alan’s attracting the Freepers!! Welcome to the Big Tent!!!
Failing to impress you with their “logic”, they’ll snow you under in their bs.
Wasn’t “Rex Zeitgeist” banned by Cadenhead from his websites? Ask Cadenhead. Rex is another nasty SOB spreading the word of the Lord and Karl Rove. He may even be some of the other nasty identities.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Colmes, you are the reason my teenage kids are conservative.
We watch H & C every night and after years of witnessing your twisted ideology they they concluded if you are a liberal they want to be the opposite.
In this regard I owe you a debt of gratitude.
You can be proud that your goofy logic and antagonistic personality contributed to the greater good?
August 31st, 2008 at 6:24 pm
“The post about Sarah Palin’s pre-natal care was taken down because of the vile comments made by a pletehora of conservatives who decided to invade the site..”
LOL.. yeah, right. Sure that was the reason
You need “pletehora” of dictionaries.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:24 pm
You are a sad and pathetic excuse for a human being Alan. You rank up their with Michael Moore now.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Obama wouldn’t lie, we all know that it’s impossible to hear incendiary language from your reverend after a mere twenty years of sitting in the pews, even when it was screamed at the congregation through a high-tech sound system.
Now, if Obama had sat there for an additonal twenty years and then claimed he never heard anything, I might be willing to call him a liar.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:28 pm
A very special place in Hell awaits you Alan, your are a freaking dimwit of the highest rank.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:29 pm
I cannot adequately express my feelings about this new low that you have stooped to. I seldom have agreed with you on anything, but as I keep telling my wife, “Hannity needs a proper antagonist and at least Alan Colmes is intelligent”. Now I can’t say that anymore. I can’t even contemplate why you thought it was necessary to even broach the subject of Palin’s pregnancy and her very special child. Alan you truly are a moron, void of any intelligence, void of any class, and I am ashamed that you and I breath the same air.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Alan Colmes deliberately implied that Palin’s son was a Downs child because of her “lack” of pre-natal care. Just another misogynist “liberal”. More food for the PUMAs.
And anyone who thinks that William Ayers was a just a “nodding acquaintance” of Barak Obama is a fool. They served together on boards, one of Barak’s launch parties was at Ayers house. They may not of been best buds, but just a “nodding acquaintance with someone in his neighborhood”???
You have no credibility, Mr. Colmes. And do continue to keep it classy, sir!
August 31st, 2008 at 6:31 pm
“takes his Christian pretense as far as acting as if he cares about people and tries to help the less fortunate.”
Are you saying that a non-Christian cannot have these virtues? Ah… never mind I already know the answer.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Can someone please explain to me how Obama is more qualified to be President than Palin is to be Vice President?
The DNC and the MSM (but I repeat myself) keep repeating that Palin’s gig as Mayor was a part-time job.
So was Obama’s job as state legislator.
ON THE DAY HE DECLARED HIS CANDIDACY, OBAMA HAD SERVED 150 DAYS IN THE US SENATE; BEFORE THAT, HE WAS A SELF-SERVING PART-TIME STATE SENATOR
UPDATE: WELCOME ACE OF SPADES READERS!
DO 150 DAYS IN THE U.S. SENATE – THE WORLD’S GREATEST DEBATING CLUB – MAKE ONE EXPERIENCED ENOUGH TO BE POTUS?
NOPE.
WELL…. WHAT ABOUT OBAMA’S EXPERIENCE IN THE ILLINOIS STATE SENATE. HERE’S HOW THE NYTIMES SAW IT IN July 2007:
Asked why he ran for the Senate in a state where rank-and-file lawmakers have been called “mushrooms” (because they are kept in the dark and fed, uh, manure), Mr. Obama said: “Part of it was that the seat opened up. I was living in the district, and the state legislature was a part-time position. It allowed me to get my feet wet in politics and test out whether I could get something done.”
Forming Relationships
From his days as an organizer, Mr. Obama already knew the Democratic leader, Mr. Jones, who had come up through the Democratic organization in Chicago. He had helped Mr. Obama’s group acquire state money for a dropout prevention program that still operates today.
… The new senator, Barack Obama, was a progressive Democrat in a time of tight Republican control. He was a former community organizer in a place where power is famously held by a few. He was a neophyte promising reform in a culture that a University of Illinois political studies professor describes as “really tough and, frankly, still quite corrupt.”
… Mr. Obama did not bring revolution to Springfield in his eight years in the Senate, the longest chapter in his short public life. But he turned out to be practical and shrewd, a politician capable of playing hardball to win election (he squeezed every opponent out of his first race)…
… He positioned himself early on as a protégé of the powerful Democratic leader, Senator Emil Jones, a beneficiary of the Chicago political machine.
… His critics say Mr. Obama could have accomplished much more if he had been in less of a hurry to leave the Statehouse behind. Steven J. Rauschenberger, a longtime Republican senator who stepped down this year, said: “He is a very bright but very ambitious person who has always had his eyes on the prize, and it wasn’t Springfield. If he deserves to be president, it is not because he was a great legislator.”
… When the Democrats took control of the State Senate in 2003 — and Mr. Jones replaced James Philip, known as Pate, a retired Pepperidge Farm district manager who served as president of the Senate — Mr. Obama made his next move.
“He said to me, ‘You’re now the Senate president,’ ” Mr. Jones recalled. “ ‘You have a lot of power.’ I said, ‘I do?’ He said, ‘Yes.’ I said, ‘Tell me what kind of power I have.’ He said, ‘You have the power to make a U.S. senator.’ I said, ‘I do?’ He said, ‘You do.’ I said, ‘If I’ve got that kind of power, do you know of anyone that I can make?’ He said, ‘Yeah. Me.’ ”
FACT RECAP:
AS STATE SENATOR, OBAMA DIDN’T TAKE ON THE CORRUPT ILLINOIS MACHINE OR THE CORRUPT COOK COUNTY MACHINE OR THE CORRUPT CHICAGO MACHINE.
HE PLAYED BALL WITH THEM TO ADVANCE HIS OWN PERSONAL AMBITION – ACCORDING TO THE NYTIMES.
AND, AS OBAMA TOLD THE NYTIMES (see above), BEING AN ILLINOIS STATE SENATOR IS ONLY A PART-TIME JOB; THE STATE SENATE IS IN SESSION ONLY A FEW MONTHS A YEAR.
THAT’S NOT MUCH TO BRAG ABOUT. AND IT HARDLY QUALIFIES HIM TO BE POTUS.
LET’S COMPARE THAT TO PALIN:
PALIN TOOK ON A DEFEATED THE CORRUPT ALASKA MACHINE – UNSEATING THE STATE’S GOVERNOR, WHO WAS IN HER OWN PARTY!
HAVING SERVED 350 DAYS AS GOVERNOR – A FULL-TIME, HIGH-PROFILE TOTALLY ACCOUNTABLE JOB, (AND YEARS AS A MAYOR AN CITY COUNCIL MEMBER) – MAKES HER IS MORE QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT THAN OBAMA.
BOTTOM-LINE: IN ADDITION TO NOT BEING QUALIFIED BY EXPERIENCE, OBAMA’S KOWTOWING TO THE CORRUPT MACHINERY IN CHICAGO AND ILLINOIS MAKES HIM MORALLY UNFIT FOR THE OFFICE.
Here is video of CNBC’s Maria Bartoromo today on Meet the Press talking with Tom Brokaw about Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin being chosen to serve as John McCain’s Vice-Presidential running mate. Bartiromo recently interviewed Palin, and said she is a “savvy pick” because of her great knowledge on the Energy Issue.
http://www.blogsforjohnmccain.com/trackback/2328
August 31st, 2008 at 6:34 pm
“The post about Sarah Palin’s pre-natal care was taken down because of the vile comments made by a pletehora of conservatives who decided to invade the site and show us just how decent and value-driven some of them are.”
Is “pletehora”(sic) your new big word now, Alan? “Invaded”? Isn’t the object of sites such as this to be open for debate and comment? Or were you expecting an echo chamber of like-minded people? It seems as if your pathetic excuse was written hastily, like you were trying to delay the inevitable and rightful scourge you knew was coming.
I will second what SCOTTH said in a previous comment: You need a pletehora(sic) of dictionaries with which to reference the word pre-natal”(sic).
August 31st, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Colmes,
Please send me your original blog on Palin’s pregnancy. I’d love to read it and judge for myself.
Fair and balanced, as always.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Here’s an abstract from the original thread, which I provide for the convenience of any who wish to review the comments of the many moral, ethical, principled, upright, honorable, virtuous, pious, devout, Christian, family-values people providing commentary. Spelling errors are quoted as posted.
“are you that fucked up over her nomination? or that stupid?”
“…the Dims…”
“Are you desperate or just lazy?”
“What the hell is your problem…?”
“you should be deeply ashamed of yourself, but that’s clearly far beyond your capacity.”
“…the lefty nutroots…”
“Looking like a toad…”
“Moron.”
“Amazingly ignorant.”
“…friggin’ political hack twatface…”
“…democrat losers.”
“…you moron…”
“…the nutbags.”
“Just retire…”
“Just go away.”
“…piece of shit…”
“…Skeletor…”
“Fuck off…”
“…you fucking asshole communist fuck.”
“…the Frankenstein looking liberal…”
“…try to regain your status as a human being.”
“…liberal douchebaggery.”
“…clasless boob.”
“…hartless liberal.”
“…Jackass.”
“Schmuck.”
“…the biggest ignoramus…”
“…you ditzy cunt.”
“…liberal fuckwads…”
“…your motherfucking ass…”
“…a nonfactor…”
“…ultra-liberal scum…”
“…your mother must have droped you…”
“…you look like your face caught fire …”
“…you’ve just sunk into the gutter…”
“…you’re really desparate…”
“…misogynistic antagonism…”
“…pathetic, disgusting…”
“…your liberal ass…”
“…you pathetic sniveling pacifist!”
“…scummiest…”
“You pollute the planet…”
“…pissed in your pants…”
“You’re a disgrace and an abomination…”
“…busts your balls…”
“…douchebag Nazi…”
“…nutroots…”
“…sick-minded…”
“…asshole…”
“…liar…fraud…coward.”
“…snivling worm…”
“…liberally retarded views.”
“…this jew and that lying bitch…”
“…fucking cockface…”
“…mutant…”
“…disgusting, low and moronic…”
“And Chelsea doesn’t look a thing like Bill.”
August 31st, 2008 at 6:41 pm
Alan is absolutely *not* saying that Sarah Palin’s actions/decision had any impact on whether or not the child would have Down Syndrome. The Palin’s knew well in advance that the child had Down Syndrome and it has been widely mentioned in the media.
What Alan was doing was questioning a woman’s decision making in regards to her pregnancy. He does so at his party’s peril. Questioning someone’s medical decisions is ground that the Democrats/Liberals do *not* want to cross, because they would cut off their nose to spite their face. There is only one possible direction this can go and it isn’t good for the liberal viewpoint. Every argument that the left has ever made about Roe vs. Wade, privacy and choice will be disgarded if they pursue this line about Palin’s labor and flight home.
Not to mention, its none of their damn business! None of them have the details of what Palin’s doctor and her knew, so they should just drop this as soon as possible if they know what’s good for them.
Really, I don’t know why I’m warning them off of this, it would be better to just watch it all just come crashing down on them.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:41 pm
COWARD!
First you tried to blame “technical difficulties” for the missing post. Now it’s “vile comments”. Which is it? You were either lying then or you are lying now.
Actually, you lied in both instances.
If the problem was “vile” comments from conservatives, you could have just closed and deleted the comments.
Fortunately, Vince up there has saved the comments, so we can all see how “vile” they actually were. Not so vile after all…
I guess that just leaves your sniveling cowardice as the only explanation for removing the post.
Typical hypocritical, lying “progressive” turd.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:43 pm
SKH: It’s nearly impossible to have a logical discussion with some of the Lefties here.
That is especially true when one desires not to regress to the argument style of a 10 year old.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:43 pm
“you should be deeply ashamed of yourself, but that’s clearly far beyond your capacity.”
… and I stand by that.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:44 pm
I’m laughing that RC is so obsessed that he would waste the time to compile his little list so he could make his little attack that is meaningless.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:45 pm
At least Obama takes his Christian pretense as far as acting as if he cares about people and tries to help the less fortunate.
Posted by John McKee
August 31st, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Why would Obama have to fake his spiritual beliefs in order to help people? Wouldn’t it be better that he showcase his ability as a non-Christian, atheist or whatever to assist those in need? What a marvelous chance for him to hit back at those “fundies” you despise so much.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Wow Alan:
Why not be a man? Grow a pair and apologize and leave the post up! Then apologize to Ms. Palin. Instead what do you do? You pull your article and then become a weasel “the big bad conservatives made me do it”.
Please also know that I will not be watching H&C until they dump you and your smarmy friends.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Great job, Allen. Your actions are helping us fight the conservative cause.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Wow, lots of comments.
Alan got some press on conservative blogs and look at all the traffic.
Unfortunately alan doesn’t have any ads here t make $$ to cover the cost of his bandwidth.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Smithtown, you’ve all but guaranteed that this thread will not enter the void for the reasons Alan removed the first one. Smooth move.
Or, perhaps that was the intent?
disgarded = discarded, sorry about the typo.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:50 pm
And a good time was had by all. Thanks for the fun, Alan. I guess the new edition of The Fundie Female’s Basic Book of Birth will include the following advice:
Praise Jaysuss! This is really important, particularly for mothers in their mid-forties. If our waters break (or ‘leak a little’ as we ladies like to call it) say, a month or two early, keep on doing exactly what you were doing. Maybe a kind Christian will lend you a Depends. DO NOT SEEK LOCAL OR SPECIALISED MEDICAL ASSISTANCE. Phone a doctor who is at least 3,000 miles away, then waddle aboard a jet without telling the cabin crew about your little problem and fly for 12 hours at 30,000 feet to the back of beyond. Immediately proceed to a backblocks hospital, taking extra care that it has no specialised neo-natal facilities, and insist on having labour induced without delay.
Feel like idiots, fundies? ‘Cos that’s what y’all are!
August 31st, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Well well well, look which Alan Colmes site decided to put the thread in question back on his site, minus comments. And it only took a few days and a thousand posts. Not so hard, was it?
August 31st, 2008 at 6:52 pm
I love how all of you “outraged” conservatives are coming here just to say “We’re gonna tell Hannity!” as if Sean is Alan’s mom or something. Funny stuff.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:52 pm
See? You’re going to have to give in and censor your blog or restrict it to registered posters with real e-mails.
Now that you’ve caught their attention, the Freepers will run what amounts to a denial-of-service attack and snow you under with their bs. They’re working on behalf of God and the American way.
Laissez faire doesn’t work in economics and it doesn’t work forever in blogs.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Nah…Alan will not be the subject of talk radio. The right wingers will be too busy pontificating about Miss Palin’s foreign policy experience…you know Alaska is close to Russia.
I seriously doubt Fox News will give Alan his walking papers. He isn’t the only liberal on Fox News.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:53 pm
And there goes John, head held high with moral outrage and utmost dignity, showing us all exactly what he means when he speaks of liberals wanting only to be “nice” to others.
He is perfect for this site.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:54 pm
“I didn’t see a single post here with substance, logic, or reason. None of you actually refuted or even responded to Alan’s true claim about Palin’s lack of judgment. All you can do is spew names and hatred. That would be because you CAN’T defend Palin.”
Scroll up and read my posts.
Shorter version: She followed her physician’s advice. Attempts at questioning her judgment in this, a medical matter, are spurious, dishonest and likely malicious.
Hope that clears it up for you.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:55 pm
John McKee,
I was thinking that perhaps when the next Democrat is elected, they could make you Surgeon General? I’m sure your policy about forcing every expectant mother to obey your guidelines will be very popular. I can just hear it now, the howls for your blood that is.
Pitchforks on the right, torches on the left….let’s go people this mob won’t run itself you know!
August 31st, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Sean is Alan’s mom or something. Funny stuff.
Considering how often Alan looks around stupidly, shuffling papers and desperately hoping to be noticed like a befuddled twelve year old in a room full of adults, Sean as Alan’s mom is an apt description.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:56 pm
The right wingers will be too busy pontificating about Miss Palin’s foreign policy experience
And the leftonians will be busy extolling Obama’s foreign policy experience…you know he once walked past the El Al counter at Chicago’s O’Hare airport.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:00 pm
This is what you quote (??!!) in your own defense: Anyway, I love how everyone keeps trying to accuse Alan of accusing Princess Mooseburger of birthing a mentally retarded child on purpose.
Tacky, tacky, the thing to do is to try to maintain a level of civility, instead of having others pick on a disabled child for you….
August 31st, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Once again, Children, this conversation isn’t about whether I’m an arsehole. I asked you a few questions about the veracity of your silly old bible.
Could someone point me to the scriptural passage that brings up Jayssuss’s attitude to abortion? Is it before or after the bit where god (small g deliberate) lovingly commanded you to murder your cheeky children, women who don’t scream loudly enough while being raped, people who dare to wear cotton and wool at the same time and farmers who plant more than one crop in a field?
I also wondered about your adherence to the advice Jesus reportedly gave to his followers:
“Turn the other cheek”
“Judge not lest thou shalt be judged”
“Blessed are the meek”
“Blessed are the peacemakers”
“It’s easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven”
“Care not for tomorrow”
“Give away all your possessions to the poor”
Any comments/answers?
August 31st, 2008 at 7:01 pm
John McKee,
Once you’ve obtained a medical license and delivered a few children, feel free to pontificate on the nature of the physician-patient relationship and its implications for the delivery of perinatal care to the traveling patient.
Until then, kindly stop yammering about things you clearly don’t understand.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:02 pm
McKee – like most liberals, your hypocrisy is only overshadowed by your arrogance and hatred.
Your comments are examples that prove my point.
AC was blatantly wrong.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:02 pm
“Any comments/answers?”
I’m an atheist.
You bore me.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:04 pm
“JOHN MCKEE” says:
“Praise Jaysuss! This is really important, particularly for mothers in their mid-forties. If our waters break (or ‘leak a little’ as we ladies like to call it)”
I have never met a “lady” named John before….getting ahead of yourself a little there bud?
Or are you just another typical liberal that pretends to speak for women like me?
Or this tidbit:
“then waddle aboard a jet without telling the cabin crew”
Waddle??? WADDLE????
Behold the enlightened left…..and their real view of women.
To be honest….you haven’t been fooling anyone with your “we are all about a woman’s right to choice”.
It’s always been all about a man’s ability to dodge responsibility……..abortions are, after all, so much cheaper than having a child, right John?
So to recap…”John” like most far left windbags despises women, has mommy issues, is a religious bigot, and is too ignorant to even know that he gives himself away with comments like the one he just made.
Good to know.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:05 pm
“I love how all of you “outraged” conservatives are coming here just to say “We’re gonna tell Hannity!” as if Sean is Alan’s mom or something. Funny stuff.”
Posted by Michael
You do understand basic economics? H&C minus C equals a good, maybe even better show. H&C minus H equals 0, as in $0 of sponsor money. The C in the show only actually carries the guests bags for them. In return they let him sit on the set & ruminate at will. Ask Alan, he knows who his daddy is.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:06 pm
“The post about Sarah Palin’s pre-natal care was taken down because of the vile comments made by a pletehora of conservatives who decided to invade the site and show us just how decent and value-driven some of them are.”
So let that be a lesson to all you conservatives… this is Alan Colmes’ blog and therefore he is the only one who is allowed to make vile, disgusting, hate-filled comments here.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:07 pm
“a nodding acquaintance with someone in his neighborhood,”
I’m sorry Alan, but even you know better than that. I assume you are referring to Mr. Bill Ayers.
A liberal? sure Alan, but why be a liar also.
Hey Look!
LIbEral
butta86
August 31st, 2008 at 7:07 pm
John McKee,
Contrary to your statement, this conversation is not about your agenda (Bible Dissection class is in the other building), its about the piece Alan Colmes wrote up questioning Sarah Palin’s judgment in making a flight after her water broke.
Can we now return to the actual topic instead of floundering in your delusions of grandeur?
August 31st, 2008 at 7:08 pm
“Once again, Children, this conversation isn’t about whether I’m an arsehole. I asked you a few questions about the veracity of your silly old bible…Could someone point me to the scriptural passage that brings up…
Any comments/answers?
Posted by John McKee”
Typical liberal. Too damn lazy to do his own research. Expects others to shoulder the work, yet is never at a loss of words. McKee, you a Obama kinda of guy?
August 31st, 2008 at 7:11 pm
McKee: I didn’t realize that this thread was about the Bible. Focusing like the Rainman on your petty cause is making you look like more of an idiot than you were before…if that doesn’t snap the tenuous state of the space-time continuum, nothing will. When does your insulting of the passages in the Quran begin? Will you be ridiculing the adherents of Islam anytime soon? That would be entertaining.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Of course it is the right wing attackers who caused this to come down and not Alan’s cowardice. Alan, you can blame it on what you want but you bit off more than you can chew pal.
As for attacks, look at the libtards on the web and you will see what attacks are. Look at Obambi. His camp organized an attack on a radio station (as it has done in the past) because The One did not like what was being said or who the guest was.
Alan, I have never liked you. You are a misinformed idiot who should never have a show or be allowed to reproduce.
Coward.
Big Dog
August 31st, 2008 at 7:16 pm
skh: They consider any criticism of Islam to be racist and hate mongering.
I should know… click on my name.
It’s racist to be against cliterectomies and having legal sex with brides the age of 9.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Colmes,
Why did you bother with the first opinion article if you meant what to say in the paragraphs of this entry? You should have said this the first time.
You’ve been afraid Republicans will demean Obama because he’s black. Yet Democrats always bring up his race, not Republicans.
Obama’s judgment in friends is in question. Of course that’s fair game.
But, are you saying Republicans are suggesting O and Michelle shouldn’t have had their daughters because of their liberal, socialist, anti-American gene-pool?
August 31st, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Off-topic;
Christmasghost, I want to thank you for that insight. I never put that together, that abortion could be a way for a man (in a male-centric world) to dodge their responsibilities. Wow, that was like an epiphany for me just reading that! Now, I’m thinking this is going to affect the way I think about male family members that are pro-choice…jeez, are they scandalous rogues escaping responsibility for their actions or what?
At I learned something worthwhile in my time here reading…
August 31st, 2008 at 7:19 pm
And ^these^ are the patriots who will be welcoming you to St. Paul.
Wear your body armor.
If the bad weather doesn’t cancel their event? Let’s all link arms and pray for a cloudburst over St. Paul next Tuesday!!!
Nearly all of the Freepers are carrying concealed weapons. The story they gave the cops when they applied for their permits was needing a gun for defensive purposes. But the best defense is a good offense and no one is as offensive as a rightwing lunatic.
Wear your body armor. Keep your head down.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Hey Alan – I THOUGHT all you Democrats just wanted to talk about the issues! Is a little baby and it’s mother a NATIONAL ISSUE!!???
August 31st, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Yep, I think Islam is just as dumb and primitive as Hinduism, Shinto, Shamanism, Judaism and Christianity. OK? I loathe the Taleban, I’d like to personally dismember bin Laden. Clear enough for you?
If it’s OK for Vince to bring cliterectomies into the conversation and all of you nutjobs somehow connecting Alan’s polite query with Obama, Ayers and Wright, how is it OT for me to wonder what kind of grip you hateful fundie pricks have on reality?
Still no answers…
FUNDAMENTALISM (of any kind) STOPS A THINKING MIND
August 31st, 2008 at 7:25 pm
By the way, Alan:
How many conservatives in a “pletehora”? (Perhaps if we were more caculatingly-minded, we could arrive at a rubrick that might give us an answer.)
Please, please… try not to use big, grownup-sounding words until you’ve at least mastered the spellchecker.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Down syndrome is a chromosomal disorder and therefore, Doctor Combs she could have given birth in the finest hospital with a plethora of doctors in attendance and the child still would have been Downs Syndrome. Thank goodness you are ONLY a talking head because if you were a doctor there would be a lot of women in blaming themselves their children’s genetic disorders
August 31st, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Once again, Children, this conversation isn’t about whether I’m an arsehole. I asked you a few questions about the veracity of your silly old bible.
Where did I say I was a Christian? I’ll wait while you desperately search….
—Jeopardy™ music—
August 31st, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Geministorm, the point Christmasghost makes is quite valid as you’ve observed. Definitely, the mindset of many college age males (been there, done that). Responsibility is something some people are born with, other acquire with time, & others never acquire. Just my .02
August 31st, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Anonymouse,
All of those concealed weapons and you’re afraid anyone from the left that shows up is going to need body armor? Wow, just a little paranoid or did you have some information to share? Seems that if the gun toting right wanted to get rid of their opposition with firearms and violence they could have done so since the left would be defenseless…what dime-store novel about the wild west have you been reading lately? Or, did you just want to use a little scare tactic to reinforce the left’s belief than anyone with a gun is a murderous villian?
August 31st, 2008 at 7:27 pm
You and others in the media have no right to second guess anything this woman has done in relation to her pregnancy. What a pregnant woman chooses to do or not do is between her, her husband, and her doctor. The reports of the incident you criticized her for say she was in contact with her doctor. That is good enough for me, and if she wasn’t in contact with her doctor I trust her judgement on the matter- she had other children and knew about the birth process. I don’t need to hear your opinion, or the opinion of doctors that are not familiar with the case about her actions.
Another issue I have with you is your report on her small wedding, that is none of your business either.
I think FOX should fire you for your words about Palin, you know as well as I do that if you said things like this about the Obama’s or Biden’s this you would absolutely be fired. You think you can say whatever you wish about conservatives; I hope you are wrong. I hope there is such a backlash over you running your mouth about Palin that you lose your job.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Geministorm……… OT but,glad to “enlighten” you my friend. snark…
You do realize that abortion IS being used against women by their boyfriends and husbands, right?
And can you tell me what business men have being “pro choice”? This is their business how?
Kinda like a woman discussing what it feels like to be kicked in the ‘nads, no?
Something Alan wouldn’t know anything about either…not having ‘nads and all……..
August 31st, 2008 at 7:30 pm
What kind of moron are you, Catherine, to keep on with this Down’s Syndrome drivel? Alan never implied that the stupid woman’s decision to fly for 12 hours had anything to do with the kid’s genetic problem. He actually went out of his way to say that she had known about it for months. If you can’t frigging read, why write???
August 31st, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Dwigg,
I always thought that if I was going to make the decision to have unprotected sex that I was ready and willing to take the consequences. Actually, it wasn’t something I “thought” really, just the way it is. Dad instilled that in me, hopefully I’ve instilled that in my kids.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Looks like Rush was right again. He said on Friday that it wouldn’t be long before someone questioned Gov. Palin’s judgement on her last pregnancy.
Mr. Colmes, you haven’t seen anything yet. When Rush takes to the air on Tuesday, you will really regret these pompous and nasty statements. The whole world will know then, no matter how hard the MSM tries to hide this.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Still waiting for you to prove my Christianity, John.
Anytime you’re ready.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Alan,
Last I checked apologies are used to say sorry for something you did or said. This article here is filled with your previous gripes with ‘evil’ right wingers, rather than apologizing for your ignorant and poorly thought out words. How many babies have you had Allan? How long have you been a OB/GYN? Where did you get your medical degree from? This article should have been two words, “I’m Sorry.” Instead you can’t apologize for your tasteless comments without somehow blaming it on the right. I will agree the right may be responsible for some things in the world, but you poor judgement and stupidity. Well I don’t think you can blame that one on them.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Alan perhaps you should talk to there women.
Wonder what they would say to you about judgment?
Famous Older Moms Compiled by Monica Hesse, September & October 2005
Having children later in life is a popular choice for celebrities, whose fast-paced careers often make starting a family in their 20s or 30s difficult. Here’s what some famous older moms have said about the ups and downs of motherhood
Kay Bailey Hutchison, 62 Senior senator from Texas and mother of Bailey, 4, and Houston, 3 “Our children are beautiful beyond belief, except for a few occasions at 3:30 a.m.”
Sharon Stone, 47 Mother of Roan, 5, and Laird, 5 months “I have more support and love and kindness than at any other time in my life.”
Diane Keaton, 59 Mother of Dexter, 9, and Duke, 4 “Afternoons, I pick up the kids and run around like a chicken with its head cut off. I collapse at 9 p.m. I’m like a farmer woman.”
Joan Lunden, 55 Mother of Jamie, 24, Lindsay, 22, Sarah, 17, twins Max and Kate, 2, and twins Jack and Kimberly, 7 months “The best way to approach bathing, feeding, and dressing the younger ones is like an assembly line.”
Cheryl Tiegs, 58 Mother of Zack, 14, and twins Jaden and Theo, 5 “I can’t say that all women should become mothers after 50; yet for me, it’s great.”
Susan Sarandon, 59 Mother of Eva, 20, Jack Henry, 16, and Miles, 13 “I had my kids late. I didn’t think I could have them and I didn’t expect to have them. But they are my best work.”
Deidre Hall, 57 Mother of David, 13, and Tully, 10 “I hope to teach my sons inner strength and empathy, and a deep love and loyalty to each other
August 31st, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Geministorm……did I misunderstand you or what?
August 31st, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Mr. Colmes,
Once you post something on the Internet, it is there forever. Your weak attempt to cover your tracks by removing the offending web page are pathetic. Further more, your attempt to blame your bone-headed mistake on those who read your blog are childish.
You have no credibility anymore.
You screwed up, you made a lame attempt to cover-up, and now you are pointing fingers at the very people who called you on your mistake.
What a pathetic joke.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Yeah that’s it anonymouse, the Republicans have been waiting all these years, armed to the teeth, just for the chance to execute Colmes at the GOP convention.
Is this you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlAhxoRRxfI
August 31st, 2008 at 7:39 pm
“FUNDAMENTALISM (of any kind) STOPS A THINKING MIND”
I’ll be sure to pass that on to The Goreacle and his disciples…
August 31st, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Apologies, Children of the A, if I mistakenly included you in the cloud cuckoo bunch that have taken up residence here. You obviously agree that fundies are off their heads – welcome aboard!
So what was your problem with me and Alan? That we questioned the wisdom of a woman whose waters have just broken very early to fly for 12 hours at 30,000 feet to the back of beyond, go to a backblocks hospital with no specialised neo-natal facilities and have labour induced without delay? Mind expanding on that one?
August 31st, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Geministorm, trust me on this, “willing to take the consequences” does not enter into the typical male mind prior to age 25. I have 2 young daughters that I hope will understand this. Until they do, I’ll just keep on cleaning my guns as they introduce me to their boyfriends.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Alan,
You suck. You really, really do.
John
August 31st, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Alan,
You and your glue sniffing friends are grasping at straws trying to demean Gov. Palin because you know it was a great move for McCain to pick a tough, against the grain woman candidate for VP. You Libs are so pathetic that you would ridicule a disabled baby.
After all, your candidate isn’t known for his compassion toward babies. I suppose its part of the mind set with you libs. All you guys have is a wet-behind-the-ears empty suite in Obama and stale old wind bag like Joe Biden. Obama screwed up. He should of picked Hillary.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Never thought i would see the day that a child with downs syndrome was used as a political football, alan colmes ,dkos, du et al … sick,very sick.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:44 pm
This is not your finest hour Alan.
Not by a mile.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Apology accepted and it felt gooooood.
And yes I do question your motives because as liberals you firmly believe in a woman’s right to choose what to do with an unborn child; why would Palin be any different than any other woman in that regard? If you do not feel that way, you can do your own explaining on why you would vote for Obama.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Christmasghost,
Hmm, well I guess being pro-choice for the male is like admitting what they think is worthless. Whether the female wants to have or abort the child doesn’t depend upon the male to say, “Whatever you think, honey”. I can only imagine that their position is that they think that the woman has a “right” to make that decision.
Not to go too far afield here, but the abortion has always struck me as thus; if your boss was preventing you from advancing in your career and was making your life at work miserable, do you want the government telling you that you *can’t* kill him? Hell yes, that is what laws are for, to say what society does and does find acceptable. In the same way, abortion is not acceptable because I believe that human life begins at conception. The left seems to disagree and think that life begins (when?) at birth, or in the case of some, when the child is delivered on purpose (see Barack Obama and his stance on babies that live through abortions for the counter-argument).
Abortion to avoid responsibility (post-conception birth control) just hadn’t entered my mind as a reason to be pro-choice.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Keep it up, liberals. This kind of thing will lose you yet another election.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:47 pm
who appointed you know-it-alls to be any woman’s OB-GYN? I too had a baby after my water “broke”–actually it was called a high leak. I too was told to wait, as my son was premature–the doc said that as long as I was NOT in active labor, it was sufficient to monitor the situation. So my husband and I waited, and THREE DAYS LATER I went into labor. our first child was born 8 hours later. What qualifies you to judge a woman–the fact that you saw this story line on desperate housewives? “water breaking” encompasses a WHOLE range of possibilities–it does not necessarily mean that an ocean of water gushes out at your feet and then the baby pops out. Geez some people are as classless as they are stupid! (By the way, our dear child is now a grown man, a proud captain in the US Army)
August 31st, 2008 at 7:48 pm
I’m not voting for McCain or Palin — but really, Alan, get a hold of yourself. It’s bad enough that misogyny reigns supreme at MSNBC (Olbermann and Matthews), don’t join their ridiculous party. And I read your original posting — maybe you didn’t mean to imply anything about Palin’s pre-natal care and Down Syndrome — but be honest and admit that it certainly implied that. Just APOLOGIZE! Why is saying you’re sorry so difficult? Okay, so the conservative blogs go crazy — that’s not reason to behave like this.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:48 pm
No, that’s not me “Rex/Arugala”.
Did Cadenhead ever let you back into his website to play or did you spend your nights alone in the basement cleaning your “weapon” until you found “alan” to relieve yourself on?
Registration with a confirmed email address, Alan. Once the Freepers get ahold of your pantleg, they don’t ever let go. Getting rid of the Freepers is like trying to lose a bad cough.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:50 pm
You claim you deleted the post because of a few offensive comments. Alan, that’s why you have moderators – to delete offensive comments. You really deleted the post because it was stupid and offensive and made you look really, really bad. This post isn’t any better. Stop digging, Alan – you’ve already reached rock bottom.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:52 pm
First, Down Syndrome happens at conception and has nothing to do with pre-natal care – there is NOTHING you can do to cause or prevent it. I did not see the original post (thankfully), but as a mother of a boy with Down Syndrome, I’m really tired of the constant absolutely uninformed pontification on the left about people with developmental disabilities, ala the flyer found at the DNC headquarters in Tennessee during the 2004 election, that had President Bush’s head superimposed on a Special Olympian’s body and said “voting for Bush is like running in the Special Olympics, even if you win, you’re still retarded.” As I explained to State Representative Fitzhugh, “retarded” is relative – and every lib that takes a shot at anyone with developmental disabilities, is far more handicapped than any child with Down Syndrome ever will be. And you call yourselves kind. That being said, honestly Alan, you’re a relatively educated man, how can you let hate cloud your judgement so much to print such crap?
August 31st, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Gee Alan, at what point would you have ‘aborted the baby”? Before you knew or after?
BTW you didn’t have to tell us about the disease. You knew for a fact we knew.
Now to Mr. Olympus, how come nobady has been fainting at his outtings lately. Too many, too fake. And by the way you really are scum.
I am a conservative Democrat!
August 31st, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Geministorm, you say “the left seems to disagree and think that life begins (when?) at birth, or in the case of some, when the child is delivered on purpose.” In the pro-choice male world, life begins when the baby is determined not to be a problem (that’s it cut & dry). Ask BHO about being stuck with a problem due to making a “mistake”. Notice no time frame distinction being made in when life begins. It’s if “its” wanted it’s a baby, if not it’s a problem. Again just my .02
August 31st, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Christmasghost,
You misunderstood, I was being serious.
Dwigg,
<– Reporting in as a 42 year old American male. I know what’s in (or not in, in this case) the mind of a young male growing up. However, whatever might have happened, I would have taken responsibility for my actions, without question. Two young daughters here as well. I’ve been thinking about a double-barrel shotgun personally, it will get frequent cleanings once the girls start going out on dates…hehehee.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:57 pm
“Anyway, I love how everyone keeps trying to accuse Alan of accusing Princess Mooseburger of birthing a mentally retarded child on purpose.” -Jane
Not at all. We’re criticizing Alan Colmes who is attacking Sarah Palin for choosing to give brith to her son with her own doctor. I mean, we all thought Colmes was pro-choice after all.
August 31st, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Alan: It’s amazing how little of the heat you’re catching here has anything at all to do with what you actually wrote. Getting people to read isn’t as easy as Michelle Pfeiffer made it look.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Dwigg,
Yeah, I heard Obama say that he didn’t want his two girls to have to pay for a mistake, like kids are punishment or something? But, I was alluding to his position on babies that live through abortion.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:03 pm
RCADE….. some of us are not allowed to read what he wrote, since he shockingly retracted with some lame excuse of an explanation but nothing near an apology. We are, though, obviously reading what is written now.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:05 pm
It isn’t just a baby with Down’s syndrome the Obamamaniacs are using as a political football. They are using the oldest daughter, who on dailykos is said to be the “real” mother of said baby. And some on dailykos are saying that the daughter’s pregnancy was the result of incest, so either the eldest son or the “First Dude” of Alaska is also being smeared. All of these allegations rest on absolutely no evidence, of course. Just the fevered imaginations of Obama supporters who, it seems, are at a loss to take on Sarah Palin’s public record.
This is ALL unconscionable behavior that is utterly beyond the pale. And it is especially ironic coming from the supporters of the candidate who wailed when his wife’s public speeches were scrutinized and viewed by some in an unfavorable light, and who then declared spouses off limits. Except for Cindy McCain’s wealth, of course!
I rarely watch H&C because I don’t have TV, so I only see the occasional clip on the web or watch when I’m travelling. I’ve never been a fan of yours, Mr. Colmes. I don’t share your political views and have always found your penchant for interrupting your guests before they can respond to your questions to be either very poor manners or simple grandstanding on your part.
But you really have sunk to a new low. Caught in the tide of Olbermann, Matthews, and the koskidz, I guess.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:05 pm
My wife and I eloped. I am 24 and have been married for five years, we still have yet to have children. I guess maybe I should go waste twenty grand on a ceremony jsut to make it official. Even if she was pregnant, so what? Liberals would rather we all run around committing sin and evil so they can say none of us are good, rather than have people strive for the ideal and fall short. This is how even a moderate liberal like Alan shows that the liberal political front can never succeed when unmasked for what it really is.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:07 pm
I trust her judgement over your Alan.
“We knew through early testing he would face special challenges, and we feel privileged that God would entrust us with this gift and allow us unspeakable joy as he entered our lives. We have faith that every baby is created for good purpose and has potential to make this world a better place. We are truly blessed.” (April 18, 2008, Anchorage Daily News)
August 31st, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Geministorm, Yeah, if I got it right, BHO thought it would be an intrusion to bring in another doctor to care for the baby. That this would be an intrusion between the woman & the doctor. BHO might need to be enlightened that Alan also needs to be included in all decisions between a woman & her doctor. Hard to follow this liberal thinking, but I;ll try. (btw, nice choice on the double barrel, maximum visual effect I’m sure).
August 31st, 2008 at 8:09 pm
[...] Alan “liberal to be named later” Colmes put up a blog post calling into question Palin’s judgment after she flew from Texas back to Alaska after her water had broken — suggesting oddly that this could be somehow linked to Trig having an extra chromosome. After he was called on it, he disappeared the post and put up another one complaining about all the mean conservatives that called him on his idiocy — and then doubled down. Colmes, who to my knowledge has absolutely no medical expertise, is apparently convinced that Palin should’ve gone on bedrest the moment it was found she was carrying a child with Down’s Syndrome. (The best, most devastating critique of Colmes’ idiocy was this comment.) [...]
August 31st, 2008 at 8:16 pm
I was wondering what nutty things you Liberals were going to come up with in full-meltdown mode, but I never thought it would be so patently offensive. You have shown the American people how low you will stoop to smear an honest woman helping usher in a new age of Conservative leadership, and for that I thank you.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:17 pm
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 31st, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Y’know, sure you CAN question her judgment on her choices about her family, but why bother? You let liberals off the hook for behavior from the gutter, and here is an achiever making her own decisions, and taking the responsibility for them. What could you possibly say that’s not completely hipocritical? Nothing of course. And that’s why you libs are hanging in the wind on this one. You also mention that she’s wrong on all the issues. Like what? Conservation? Energy? Pork? Corruption?
Alan, you are an easy target. And that’s why you exist. Certainly not because you are right on many issues, you’re not. You have to take the opposite stance on whatever is on the table or else you don’t have a job.
How completely pathetic your existence must be.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Now we know why CLOWNY was single for so many years. Your wife must be PROUD of you. I bet she’s a member of Planned Parenthood. We should dig into her background to see if they’re some past marriages and/or abortion’s. Something must be there since she’s the only “female” that would say those 3 words to you at your age. DEMONNUTT PARTY just lost most of the FEMALE VOTE. Well those that would never consider marrying a low life unborn baby murdering lover like you. You DEMMONNUT’S will get the code pinko “women” that’s it. HOME RUN!!! As Keithina Oral”dow”mann would say.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Alan,
I’m a conservative. Several years ago I had a brief ongoing email disagreement with you the topic of which had something to do with human suffering and who suffers the most. We disagreed to say the least.
Having said that, I now find myself in the uncomfortable position of agreeing with you about Sarah Palin. I have been scouring the web researching this matter regarding Trig as well as her conduct in the ex-brother-in-law, Trooper Wooten matter for the last two days. I have read reputable news sites, newspapers, and blogs. I have read less than reputable sites such as DK and DU. I have read many defenses of Palin — all of them overly emotional and short on reason and logic.
I am also a mother and know enough about pregnancy and childbirth from experience to understand what is reasonable to believe and what taxes credibility. I have formed my opinion based on not only my personal experience but also from what seems to be the most universally agreed upon and reported facts involved.
My opinion is that those known facts do not logically or reasonably support Palin’s story about the birth of Trig. First of all, it is known that for the majority of women each successive birth will require *fewer* hours of labor. An average first birth will take 12 to 24 or more hours of labor. Successive births generally take less and less time.
Also, the smaller the baby, the smaller the baby’s head which requires less time to dilate the cervix of the mother before she gives birth. Trig was only 6 pounds and 2 ounces at birth and he is said to be Sarah’s 5th child. These facts lean towards a shorter rather than a longer labor.
The trip from Texas to Alaska (with a stop in Seattle) takes about 12 hours. According to an Anchorage Daily News (ADN) article Sarah leaked amniotic fluid but stayed in Texas to give her speech. I don’t know how long that waiting and speech giving took but I’m guessing at least another hour if not longer.
Every pregnant woman knows or should know that any leakage or breaking of water means there is now the possibility of infection to the baby. That means calling one’s doctor or seeking medical attention at once is in order. Certainly a mother of four should know that much but Sarah did nothing except to prolong the time before she got medical attention.
Supposedly Trig was 1 month premature and supposedly the Palins already knew Trig had Downs Syndrome which puts him at a higher risk than other babies at birth because of possible heart problems, etc. Still Sarah did not immediately contact a doctor when she felt her water breaking in Texas. This makes no sense.
Also, commercial airlines do not like to have late trimester pregnant women fly because of the risk of such women going into labor in flight. Perhaps the airlines waived their concerns in her case because Palin is the Gov. of Alaska or maybe she didn’t look pregnant so no questions were asked.
According to the ADN, Palin did not jump off the plane in Anchorage and rush to a hospital but instead drove yet another hour to Mat-Su hospital in Wasilla, Alaska (her small hometown) where supposedly labor was induced. (Most commonly labor begins when the bag of water breaks but not always.) Then some 6 or 7 hours later Trig was born.
So from the time when Sarah felt fluid leaking in Texas to the time the baby was born was roughly 20 to 24 hours. That is the average time it takes for a woman’s first baby to be born; that is, from the first contraction to delivery. Palin’s story of her labor and delivery of Trig just doesn’t seem credible on its face.
There are reports that Sarah’s daughter, Bristol, was kept out of high school for 4 or 5 months when her mother was pregnant. Allegedly Bristol had a prolonged case of mono which is very contagious.
I’m guessing Bristol attends high school in Juneau where the Governor’s mansion is located. I have located a police report relative to a car accident Bristol had in February of 2008 in Wasilla, Alaska. Wasilla is where Sarah’s family still lives. I’m wondering why a girl too sick to go to school was out and about driving into what was referred to as a business parking lot. Maybe mono is only catching to other high school students but that is not the way I recall it working when my husband had mono. He was told to avoid public places…basically to stay at home.
Palin’s staff and colleagues, a three person crew doing a video of her, and a Newsweek reporter couldn’t tell in March of 2008 that Sarah was 7 months pregnant and I can’t find a single picture of her from January to April of 2008 that clearly shows she was pregnant. The Alaska.org website has scrubbed all pictures of Sarah from January to April from the website. Older and newer pictures of her remain there.
According to local Alaskan blogs this has been a topic of speculation long before Palin was selected at McCain’s VP. Those who think it only stemmed from that event are mistaken.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Would you people please READ WHAT HE WROTE??? Good lord, so many of you obviously get the “story” from someone else and just come here and post a comment.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Geministorm……….Whew! okay, sorry for the snark [see how easy apologizing is Alan?] after dealing with far left nutbags so much sometimes it’s hard to tell when someone is being…well, an ass.
You might enjoy reading what i had to say about abortion:
http://www.christmasghost.com/archives/2008/08/barack_hussein_2.html
And here’s what I tell people that try to argue FOR abortion.They always use the same lame argument “it’s not really a baby”
Oh really? Okay then…why have an abortion, if it really isn’t a baby then nothing will happen will it?
Case closed.
Besides, if they are going to allow us to murder children just because they are an inconvenience then I DEMAND the right to kill them when they are teenagers and really frickin’ annoying……because then you KNOW why insects eat their young.
HEH….
August 31st, 2008 at 8:38 pm
I use to respect you Alan. Pity, pity. You spew your crap, and then try to shift the blame? WTF!!?? My neutered cat has bigger HUEVOS than you do.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Joyce, do you generally believe in conspiracies? You actually looked into the driving record of Palins’ daughter? Get a life. Not only do we have Alan injecting himself between Sarah Palin & her Ob/Gyn. Now Joyce is filing FIFA requests on the 16 year old Palin. You guys are great. I love it. Crap, I wish I knew this blog existed sooner.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:39 pm
You suck Alan… and you probably even swallow. Is that too crude for you? You leftist clowns are all the same. You all whine about how mean spirited republicans/conservatives are, then you make mean spirited, underhanded comments that are so beyond the pale that it is sickening. Shame on you a-hole. I once had hope for you… no more. You are truly lost.. and willfully so. Thank God the rest of America has better judgement than you… stupid.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:40 pm
You suck Alan… and you probably even swallow. Is that too crude for you? You leftist clowns are all the same. You all whine about how mean spirited republicans/conservatives are, then you make mean spirited, underhanded comments that are so beyond the pale that it is sickening, and then think we aren’t smart enough to figure it out. Shame on you. I once had hope for you… no more. You are truly lost.. and willfully so. Thank God the rest of us have better “judgement” than you… “stupid”.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Well, Alan, my boy, it is about judgement. Anyone who uses Jaru and his Princess Mooseberger quip as an example of judgement is lacking in it. As someone said however, we should be kind to you and remember being both ugly (mentally) and stupid is a heavy cross to bear.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:45 pm
This just in!!!! Incontrovertible truth there is a GOD!!! Alan Colmes actually found a woman willing to crawl into bed with him at night……
August 31st, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Alan, you deserved whatever epithets you got, repeating Daily Kos talking points over here.
Her doctors told her the trip was fine — what are your medical credentials to differ with them?
I wonder, if conservatives were to question whether Barack Obama is really the father of his children, criticize Michelle Obama’s prenatal care for her daughters or her (rumored) six abortions, would you consider such commentary to be within the bounds of valid political discourse?
August 31st, 2008 at 8:46 pm
“You could have frozen the comments, Alan. And then left up the original post and comments. But that isn’t the liberal way. You could have left the post up, and deleted any posts using profanity. Nope, that isn’t the liberal way. What you have done is destroyed the ‘evidence’ so you can make up anything you want.”
It would have been much simpler if you had just called him what he is
a COWARD.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Joyce M. – Sarah Palin was six, not seven, months pregnant in March 2008 and several sites, including hotair.com, have posted pictures of her looking clearly pregnant at that time. So I guess you haven’t looked very hard.
You seem to be saying that she didn’t exercise poor personal judgment in flying home, as her doctor indicated was safe for her to do because she wasn’t pregnant at all. Why, then, do you think a woman who had born four children at that point, would concoct such a complex tale about her pregnancy? Would it not draw attention rather than deflect it?
As a self-professed conservative (I’ll take you at your word on that, although I am frankly skeptical), what do you think of this scurrilous coverup that you allege has been perpetrated by the Republican governor of Alaska and the presumed Republican nominee for president? How will it affect your vote in November and your support of Republican candidates in the future?
August 31st, 2008 at 9:01 pm
You are right, McCain made a great choice. She has far more experience and has so many more accomplishments than Obama and has demonstrated that she will stand up to the political machines, even those of her own party. In fact, she is better qualified than Hillary.
I was going to vote Constitution Party this election year. Not now. It is good to see someone with integrity and real ability running. McCain/Palin in 2008!
August 31st, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Hate from the conservatives? Obviously Alan you haven’t been reading the foul things they are saying about Gov. Palin. The hate from the left for this self made and self sufficient woman is disgraceful.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Joyce, so you want to propose that it was Sarah Palin’s daughter that is the mother to the baby???
You people have no shame.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Alan, I much prefer discussing issues to discussing individuals. Unfortunately, with your remarably vicious attack on Gov. Palin, your elimination of the evidence, and a “mea culpa” that was long on “culpa” but remarkably free of “mea,” you’ve made yourself, and your behavior, an issue.
We understand that modern liberalism is emotion-heavy and reason-free, but your recent fit here has clearly emphasized that liberals don’t have a substantive foot upon which to stand. Please resign from Fox News ASAP, and shutter your blog permanently. Since this is, obviously, the best you have, you should leave the discussion of issues to people who are actually interested in discussing them, instead of attacking others with whom they disagree.
–Mike
August 31st, 2008 at 9:05 pm
I have read the original post and smell Palin Derangement Syndrome or are those odors the famous liberal values kicking in.
I’m not sure if at any other time in the history of our Country that liberals have acted more poorly than in the past few. I am disgusted with all of you and posts like yours questioning the judgment of Governor Palin in birthing her child reek of the most vile decomposition.
No liberal would question the Governor if she decided to abort. But you will question her commitment to tasks at hand, dedication to life, and personal decisions made with her doctor. You are a pig Alan and I’m glad the whole world gets to see your true face.
Soon the whole country will gag on the rancid bile of the contemporary liberal movement and finally turn away from the disgusting trash that it has become. You literally disgust me.
I will be contacting Fox with a complaint about you and a suggestion they put you where you belong.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Guns? I hate guns.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Dwigg,
I didn’t have to search for the driving record. Everything I spoke of is online and easily accessed by anyone…even someone like you.
You really might try looking at facts instead of spouting off with emotions. Your childish need for Sarah Palin to be perfect doesn’t make her squeaky clean in reality. You apparently are no different than a liberal when it comes to your political beliefs. You certainly write like one.
And keep your eyes open for an October Surprise or two possibly courtesy of Sarah Palin. Now really, wouldn’t you rather be forewarned?
August 31st, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Martha,
What if I’m right? Will you be ashamed of yourself? You should be for having such a closed mind.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Alan, you have shown once and for all that liberals are the most vile excuses for human beings that can be found. From spouting that Kos-nik venom to sliming Governor Palin for actually having the temerity to have a Down Syndrome child, you’ve reached rock bottom.
I’d watched “Hannity and Colmes” for years, and tolerated your snide attitude and condescension when you would address conservative guests, but in recent months you’ve just gotten plain nasty and mean…and this is the end. I have already contacted Fox News and told them they’ve lost a viewer so long as you’re still on there. Someone with your attitude and mean streak should be on MSNBC so you can have a tingle up your leg with little Chrissy Matthews and spread acid with Keith Olbermann. You’re a contemptible individual and I just hope you realize how lucky you are that the media aren’t insulting and slandering your family the way you have been slandering Governor Palin’s family.
You’re not a man…you’re not even a snake. You’re lower than a snake.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:14 pm
At the age of 33 MY water broke while at work @ 4:00pm.
I immediately called my Dr, who said, “Okay, unless contractions bring you in sooner, we want you to get your rear end, no pun intended(she acually said that;) … at 6:00a.m.!” Uh… that is 14 HOURS LATER!
Just thought – as many of those lib women probably already knew – that this WAS NOT “poor judgment”, but
Doctor’s orders.(It was in San Francisco,California,so please no cracks about “small town know nothing drs”.
P.S. Even though they had to induce labor on top of it, I still didn’t deliver until 00:33am (after midnight). That was a total of 32 hrs after my water breaking!
August 31st, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Nice attack on Gov Palin’s family Alan. I live in Alabama and if you didn’t know it our former football coach Gene Stallings had a child with a similar condition. The child (age 30s I beleive) recently died. Gene is a public figure so why don’t you take some cheap shots at him.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Bravo Joyce M – a conservative to be admired. I’m a firm liberal but find all kinds of reasons to cringe at the antics of many Democrats.
Hilary Clinton would have said anything to advance her cause – I really thought she felt entitled. Obama has made a number of cynical moves in his pursuit of success – especially regarding his religious activities. Finding Jaysuss, joining and staying at the loony-toon pastor’s church were all career moves in my humble opinion.
It is a tough mountain to climb, becoming the first black president in one of the most racist countries on Earth, but it does make me squirm when I see him pandering.
Michael Moore is an idiot plain and simple. I agree with his world view, but I’ll never forgive him for his Republicrat antics in 2000. But for his insistence that there was no difference between the parties and pushing of bitter old Nader, the world would have been spared the worst American president in history and all the damage, let alone bloodshed, his chickenhawk neocon masters have wrought. This latest stupid comment about Gustav shows how shallow he is and takes all the heat off the equally offensive Dobson.
I cheered for McCain through the primaries, though I would never have crossed over, but am aghast at his behaviour since being chosen. He has accepted the Bushies’ help with the evil Rove and co and meekly fallen into line with all the neocon aganda. Maverick? Not likely.
The Palin choice is a desperate ‘Hail Mary’ by a desperate man. She is not in the top 1000 best equipped politicians to become C-in-C. Cynical vote-buying at its worst, with no thought for what happens after the election
August 31st, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Me a closed mind?? No but my mind does not go into a sewer to attack a 16 year old girl.
You did get your wish however. The London papers have picked up on the rumors and now they are there for everyone to see.
The whole world is watching. You and those who would attack a 16 year old for political reasons are going to be shamed. If it is possible.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Alan,
You’re an idiot!
Now, for more truth on the Democrats lies and misleadings,I invite you to go to “The National
Black Republican Association” website. Even
though I am a white American, I believe there
is alot we can and should learn from this site.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Just read the original post – never much agreed with you but never thought you were a liar – until now.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:26 pm
You liberals are shi**ng your pants about this McCain VP selection and are just grasping. acting like chickens with their heads cut-off, running around and flapping your wings, can’t see where you are going, can’t see what you are doing. the stench of your fear has now reached all 50 states (57 states where applicable) and it really, really stinks.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:27 pm
all this fuss about alan combs…who cares what the old has-been says, writes or does…everyone knows his agenda
August 31st, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Joyce, since Mr Colmes web site will not allow me to post the comment I want to (says my comment is a duplicate) I will attempt to post it in another way.
MY mind is not closed it just is not in a sewer accusing a 16 year old of being the mother of Sarah Palin’s 5th child
I guess you would agree with Michael Moore who now is calling for a DNA test to determine the babies parents.
Well you folks got your message across. The London papers have picked up the rumor. So now the whole world is watching.
Keep on digging my friend. Keep on digging.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Dwigg,
“I didn’t have to search for the driving record. Everything I spoke of is online and easily accessed by anyone…even someone like you.”
OK, that makes everything you read online as being accurate & factual. Good thinking.
“You really might try looking at facts instead of spouting off with emotions. Your childish need for Sarah Palin to be perfect doesn’t make her squeaky clean in reality”.
Never said Palin was perfect. Actually never have met a perfect person myself. There you go again with your facts.
“You apparently are no different than a liberal when it comes to your political beliefs. You certainly write like one”.
Is that a bad thing?
“And keep your eyes open for an October Surprise or two possibly courtesy of Sarah Palin. Now really, wouldn’t you rather be forewarned?”
Oh yes, Great Karnack. Now that doesn’t ever happen during elections does it? I don’t think there will be any surprises. I mean really, it’s going to be hard to hide the thing with space alien until October. Come on Joyce, we told you that at our last meeting. Woops, I said too much already. Good work btw, on finding that 5th grade report card. That will be critical to wrap this up.
Posted by Joyce M.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:11 pm
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Martha,
August 31st, 2008 at 9:32 pm
Just want to get this straight John, You are in agreement with Joyce who implied that Sarah’s daughter is the mother of the baby????
August 31st, 2008 at 9:33 pm
I just don’t know Martha – I’m sure we’ll find out soon enough. I wouldn’t rule it out though, nor the possibility that rushing that flight without medical care was a last desperate attempt to lose the baby in an accidental and blame-free way (ie a ‘fundie abortion). I’d even accept the possibility that she’s just an airhead who didn’t give any thought to the consequences of her actions.
Whatever, I’d be willing to bet there are some anxious people at McCain HQ waiting for these rumours to be quashed.
I have my money on the mormon if and when the position becomes vacant again :)
August 31st, 2008 at 9:44 pm
[...] Colmes whined today that the reason he had to take the post down was “because of the vile comments made by a pletehora of conservatives who decided to invade the site and show us just how decent and value-driven some of them are.” Funny, Alan, you won’t let us see the comments, but my recall is that it was a free-for-all that was pretty bad in both directions. [...]
August 31st, 2008 at 9:46 pm
OMG. so now she went on the flight to lose the baby??? Mother of God you people are sick.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Alan:
It is a Clinton supporter who has filed a suite in Philadelphia’s Federal Court maintaining the Obama is not eligible to run as President due to his birth. Where as John McCain has gone through three inquiries in the US Senate until a Senate resolution was passed stating he is a citizen thus eligible. Nice try to blame Republicans for that one.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:51 pm
“I just don’t know Martha – I’m sure we’ll find out soon enough. I wouldn’t rule it out though, nor the possibility that rushing that flight without medical care was a last desperate attempt to lose the baby in an accidental and blame-free way (ie a ‘fundie abortion). I’d even accept the possibility that she’s just an airhead who didn’t give any thought to the consequences of her actions.
Whatever, I’d be willing to bet there are some anxious people at McCain HQ waiting for these rumours to be quashed.”
No John, the folks over at McCain HQ realize that there will always be dumb asses who believe such rumors.
August 31st, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Sarah Palin has more background (personal/professional),
class, integrity, gutts/cajones in her painted lil pinkie
than Obama and/or his cronies could EVER pray to Allah for!
I’d love this vision:
Obama struts to the gym w/cameramen in tow -
Sarah runs a marathon to get there -
Then she proceeds to whoop his sorry butt in a lil one-on-one … SLAM DUNK !!!!
November, can’t wait!!!!
McCain/Palin ‘08
August 31st, 2008 at 9:56 pm
I read Allen’s post last night right here on this website!! I wanted to show my friends tonight what he said….pathetic!!! Come on Allen! You thought this was a good idea last night. That’s how you felt, right??! Your such a pathetic person. You’re a coward and extremely sad!!
August 31st, 2008 at 10:01 pm
******************************************************
CONVENTION ???? CONVENTION???!!!!
WE DON’T NEED NO STINKIN’ CONVENTION !!!
**************** McCain/Palin ‘08 ****************
God Bless our Americans (everywhere) in harm’s way
August 31st, 2008 at 10:02 pm
“The Anchorage Daily News gave the chronology of events the day Palin was in Dallas giving a speech where she began contractions, and water broke. It quotes Dr. Laurie Gregg, a Sacramnto obstetrician:”
Alan,
Sacramento, Stupid!!
August 31st, 2008 at 10:05 pm
Trace,
you mentioned on a previous post that Gov. Palin’s message of “abstinence only” doesn’t work because of the assumption that this child is her unwed, teenage daughter’s child.
{”She is not only a pro-life advocate, she is an abstinence only proponent which means if her 16 year old daughter Bristol Palin was pregnant, her message simply doesn’t work! So, was Bristol Palin Pregnant? “}
Therefore implying this is an all or nothing issue. That unless everyone buys into it, it just doesn’t work and the message is garbage.
Now be true to yourself here, many Americans, as a matter of fact millions, don’t buy into Barrack’s message, should we also deem it not worthy, garbage, it doesn’t work?
Remember, just because everyone can’t be saved, doesn’t mean we should stop trying.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Countdown with John McKee… coming soon to a last-place cable-news network near you…
August 31st, 2008 at 10:18 pm
just scrolled up and read a few winners re how perhaps Sarah Palin may have PURPOSELY tried to lose that baby
(which is kinda impossible if SHE was not pregnant with it…???) re a “12 hour trip”…
Suggest JOHN MC KEE read my post re MY situation
(33 yrs, water breaking, dr tells me to come in NEXT MORNING – 14 hrs later!!! HE KNOWS NOTHING RE THIS, BUT WANTS TO BELIEVE WHAT THE LIBS PUT OUT THERE (Only one letter changes the word LIBS to LIES, ever notice?)
THERE WAS NO EMERGENCY, IN THAT SENSE – THEY ARE WRONG
(and they know it, but are counting on dolts like these
to know no better!!!).
Take another trip on GULLIBLE’S TRAVELS, WHY DON’T YA??
August 31st, 2008 at 10:23 pm
JOHM MCKEE spouts off his trashy drivel:
“It is a tough mountain to climb, becoming the first black president in one of the most racist countries on Earth, but it does make me squirm when I see him pandering.”
Most racist country on earth? Wow….I’m sorry that you have never been able to travel, but if you are going to comment on political goings on do you think you could at least do us all a favor and pull your head out of your a$$? If this country is so racist [and it's not BTW] then how on earth did B.O. get the nomination? Are you admitting that his friends at A.C.O.R.N. stuffed ballots for him?
You do have a computer [obviously] so the least you could do before “sharing” your moronic ideas with all of us is do a little research.
Then “JOHN” stoops even lower with this little pearl:
“I just don’t know Martha – I’m sure we’ll find out soon enough. I wouldn’t rule it out though, nor the possibility that rushing that flight without medical care was a last desperate attempt to lose the baby in an accidental and blame-free way (ie a ‘fundie abortion). I’d even accept the possibility that she’s just an airhead who didn’t give any thought to the consequences of her actions.
“fundie”…wow, you are unbelievable. Do you even realize just how stupid and bigoted you look?
Rhetorical…obviously.
JOHN….KOS called and they want their idiot back.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:26 pm
John McKee:
I just wanted to respond to your request on where Jesus speaks, not specifically of abortion but his view of children – whether you believe a child is “viable” at conception or birth is between you and your convictions.
Matthew 19:13-15 reads: “One day children were brought to Jesus in the hope that he would lay hands on them and pray over them. The disciples shooed them off. But Jesus intervened: “Let the children alone, don’t prevent them from coming to me. God’s kingdom is made up of people like these.” After laying hands on them, he left.” (The Message)
As for all of the Old Testament Law… thankfully Jesus bore the supreme sacrifice and personified the “audacity of hope” by offering us forgiveness of our sins… all of our sins … Alan Colmes’, Sarah Palin’s, yours and mine!
John, none of us are perfect and everyone who spewed hatred from their mouth… conservative and liberal alike… will stand account at some point… either in this life (or in my opinion the next). I read the cached post by Alan Colmes, and I do disagree with bringing pregnancy into the political arena, just as I disagreed with people bringing up Hillary’s response to President Clinton’s affair. In short – they have nothing to do with the state of our economy, national security or the price of tea in China. You know… it’s just too bad that we can’t take the best of both sides of the aisle and get back to being Americans, not conservatives or liberals… oh, yeah… that’s called a moderate… which is Biblical (Let your moderation be know unto man… Phil 4:5…. OR…Proverbs 16:32 from The Message: “Moderation is better than muscle, self-control better than political power.”
A note to all professing Christians who responded to John McKee in a less than Christ-like manner: When someone asks for scripture, give them scripture… or at least try. But for Pete’s sake, don’t respond with name-calling and accusations… you are supposed to be Christ’s ambassadors in the world, don’t forsake the exhortation to be the salt of the earth… not the vinegar!
John, I know your questions for scripture were most probably rhetorical, but I answered with my heart and in the spirit of what I believe. May you have a blessed day.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Mr. Colmes:
I find it fascinating that the majority of those who attempt to defend the indefensible (that would be you, sir) are also anti-religious bigots who use offensive language and slurs.
Also, sir, by your dimwitted attempt to hide your misbegotten post, you have managed to turn a very bright spotlight on it and on yourself; it is amusing to see you attempt in vain to run for the shadows.
I might add that lying so obviously about Hotair, when the truth is so easily accessible, makes it painfully clear–as if, by reading your crass posts, it wasn’t clear enough–that you are no rocket scientist. Nothing disappears from the Internet, really. Your post is being spread worldwide, so that everyone interested can see just worthless you ultimately are.
Sleep well…
August 31st, 2008 at 10:30 pm
It’s finally hit at Drudge. Thanks guys, outstanding.
http://townhall.com/blog/g/9b3375c7-6a27-4b5e-9204-b267282a1ce1
August 31st, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Dear Alan,
I love to watch you on Hannity and Colmes show. You have always had pathetic questions and comments. And now…. You have stooped to new lows. Is your love of OBAMA so important to you that you have to attack everyone to prop him up? This shows me just how shallow and insecure you really are. You should be ashamed of yourself!
August 31st, 2008 at 10:40 pm
YOU ALL STUPID NEOCONS FUCK OFF COLMES!
PALIN IS A STUPID PATHETIC EXCUSE OF A CANDIDATE!
GRANDPA MCCAIN AND PALIN WILL LOSE THIS NOVEMBER
GET OVER IT U FUCKING NEOCON LOSERS!
August 31st, 2008 at 10:46 pm
It’s too bad that good people can’t run for office without all this crap. This is the first time I have come to this site, because Alan’s words are coming back to haunt him all over the web. I have watched Hannity and Colmes for years, and I am really sick of people making up stories just to destroy people. It’s worse than high school. It’s so childish and just plain wrong.
I used to be very liberal and now I am conservative. And I am not saying conservatives are above it either. It’s wrong on all levels. I am voting for McCain/Palin. I have watched him for many many years, and I respect him tremendously, we can agree to disagree on the facts. I don’t think Obama has the experience, among many other things, but it would be wrong to smear or make up lies about him, Michelle or their children. And the left has already started attacking her kids. Thats brave!
You may say the candidates are not patriotic, you may say they have bad judgement, but to say what has been said about this woman and her baby, that is pathetic and really tragic. and I agree with one of the other writers, that “who is any liberal to talk about what a woman does with her body,” they think abortion under any circumstance is ok, and the “baby” is an “it” until born, so there would be nothing wrong with whatever she does, according to liberal standards, I guess if she had aborted the baby, we’d have a different story, she would be a hero. No wonder no one respects the candidates or the journalists, or talk show hosts. I thought you were above it, Alan, But now I also see you have access to the “respectable Huffington Post” on your site. I really thought you had a little bit of class and decency now, I too, will also decide whether I will watch Hannity and Colmes also. American’s are sick of all this BS. It’s pathetic. See if you can stay out of the dirt, Alan
August 31st, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Where is the original post. Why are you hiding it?
August 31st, 2008 at 10:48 pm
When were these neocons losers lashing out at Rush for attacking Michael J. Fox for his disease?
NOTHING
When were these neocons losers lashing out at pollster Frank Luntz who said to a CBS former anchor that “hannity has many years to live while he only has a few years to live”
NOTHING
Where were these neocons losers when they attacked our military by slamming on John Kerry for his military service while bush had none?
NOTHING
THESE STUPID NEOCONS, IM SO SICK OF THEM!
THEIR MARK FOLEY, LARRY CRAIG REPUBLICAN PARTY WILL LOOSE THIS NOVEMBER!!
AND I CANT WAIT TO SEE THEIR UGLY FAT FACES REACTIONS AS THEY SEE OBAMA AS PRESIDENT!
August 31st, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Alan,
Calling people that disagree with you,stupid? As I jested before on the previous post with your incorrect spelling of Sacramento, calling it stupid? It is about as stupid as your post today. This is a very low and offensive slur to a woman and her doctor. When I heard what you had said about Gov Palin I was in shock that someone, whom appears to be educated, could say what you did!!
Down syndrome is a a chromosomal disorder, it has NOTHING do do with delivery of a child. Nothing could have changed the course of development of this child after conception. An extra chromosome was given to the baby, upon conception, and this is how Down Syndrome occurs. I am amazed that you could use so poor judgment with that statement by trying to spew your liberal distain for a mother that is a conservative outstanding person. She proves that a woman can work and have a family, does this threaten you?
I can understand your beliefs are different, but to question a decision that was made for her to deliver her child? To question a decision that was made between her physician and self? You said that this was not about Down Syndrome but judgment, then what are you implying that she did wrong when she has a healthy baby delivered? Her physician gave her “instructions” for care of the baby and self? Are you questioning her physician’s decisions in Gov Palin’s care?
As a nurse practitoner, woman, mother, I find your remarks are insulting and deplorable. I have not heard anyone questioning your medical decisions for your health challenges. Shame on you!
And to top it off, your statement was without merit, “just not smart”. By doing this, along with other’s that chose to insult Gov Palin, you will come out looking the fool and bring more to McCain/Palin on November 4.
My parents always taught me to think before I speak, need I say more, Alan?
August 31st, 2008 at 10:55 pm
John K, if you would look at the home page you would see that he put the picture of the original post up.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Mccain/palin has experience?
oh yea… palin has a lot of experience!
Looking at Bush being texas governor, he brought texas to the ground and now he brought this country to the ground with trillion dollar deficits that we all will pay.
Not bush, he is going home to retire! Who is going to pay for that national debt?
People like you Diane! and you want to elect McCain?
what a stupid woman.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:58 pm
Let’s all pretend for a moment that the child is Palin’s daughter’s (even though the odds of the 44 year old Palin having a child with Down Syndrome are significantly higher than her teenage daughter’s)…
What freakin’ business is it of your’s and why is that an issue in *any* election? You people that want to pursue this need to do a little self-reflecting.
Why in the world would anyone care whether its her’s or her daughter’s and what possible impact does that have on any political discussion? And, would there be anything wrong with someone’s mother taking on their child’s baby anyway? If so, maybe you ought to ask Jack Nicholson what the big deal is…
You’re just a bunch of dirt mongers looking to sniff someone else’s butt to escape you’re own hypocritical existence.
Dwigg, your posts crack me up. I’ll get that stool sample from Bristol to you ASAP as soon as its cooled.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:58 pm
No, Linda, thinking that Alan was making a link between her pre-natal care and Down syndrome is what makes you stupid, not disagreement. You typed all of that for nothing. Sorry for being so harsh… but what can I say.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:00 pm
>>>insinuations that she doesn’t really love her country
Don’t be such an unconcealed dope, Alan.
Michelle Obama’s own words are the source of this “insinuation.” Someone who says that she has “never been proud of my country” until her husband became the putative Democrat nominee, has certainly gone far enough to insinuate that she “doesn’t really love her country.”
But what does this have to do with the despicable job you are trying to do on Sarah Palin? You have no evidence that anything is or was ever amiss concerning the birth of her last child, but you choose to repeat what others say to help propagate that smear.
You should be (but won’t be) ashamed of yourself for this. From your perspective, Sarah Palin should not have the right to choose to do what her own doctor tells her to do (yes – check a little bit more, and you’ll find that after her water broke, she spoke with her own doctor, who advised her that it was fine for her to continue her return to Alaska, and, in fact, it was uneventful).
From your Libotard perspective, the only choice Sarah Palin had the right to make, would have been to have aborted her child. As all good Planned un-Parenthood/Margaret Sanger-worshiping Libs, if (and I don’t know whether she new beforehand) a parent knows their baby will have any genetic “disorder”, they should kill it.
By the way: Thanks for assuring that all those female and ex-Hillarycrat votes will go to McCain/Palin.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Ain’t that a kick in the a**, Alan?
August 31st, 2008 at 11:02 pm
I cannot thank you enough for offering up your blog for the discussion of obstetric issues. I hadn’t realized before this was an area of your expertise. Now that it appears it is so, let me describe my present problem in the hope you can help me resolve what to do. Several years ago, I had to have an hysterectomy. As you can imagine, my hormones have been out of balance ever since. I tried taking estrogen, but quite frankly, the worry over breast cancer scared the hell out of me, so I stopped. I think I handle the mood swings well, but others have said I can get a little cranky. Could you recommend a lubricant for the dryness though? Now that I’ve stopped taking the hormones, due to breast cancer scares and all, I have not been able to find a personal lubricant that suits both me and my husband.
Thanks.
Axey
August 31st, 2008 at 11:07 pm
Hoisted on your own petard – too appropriate by half. You’re a Democratic Party weathervane Colmes, and the cold November winds blow away into that dark sky.
Your Obamaton associates, evident within this comment section, are just so much BDS trash, willing to get behind a Marxist-Socialist and defend your ignorant speculations.
Who dresses you in the mornings, Alan? – because I can speculate just how difficult those buttons can be with myopia. Good luck with that ‘enlightened’ attitude, dumb ass.
William
August 31st, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Congratulations, you’re now completely without respect and irrelevant.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Again, I must interject: Alan, don’t you ever even take a moment to read what you post. You quote heavily from Cadenhead, but you don’t seen to read what he “relies” upon:
>>>For the record, here is the link to Rogers Cadenhead’s post on the issue of judgment.
>>>Maybe Palin’s actions can be written off as Alaskan grit, since she’s a macho hunting governor who jogs in freezing temperatures and dines on moose burgers. But as a parent myself, I think the Palins were extremely fortunate that their reckless stupidity did not end in tragedy. As middle-aged parents who already had four kids, the Palins had to be completely familiar with all the things that can go wrong in a pregnancy. One commenter on the Washington Times laid out the enormous risk she was taking:
>>> Airlines are unequipped to handle most emergencies at 30,000 feet, particularly the kind Palin put her unborn child at markedly increased risk for. These emergencies include birthing a premature infant or uncontrolled maternal bleeding. This was her FIFTH pregnancy and delivery can happen rapidly and unexpectedly. The baby or Palin could easily have died.
Did you possibly think that the Washington Times “commenter” that this pig cites to what actually FROM the Washington Times staff? Well, you;d be wrong. It was simply one of innumerable blog “comments” that this idiot Cadenhead is relying upon, while dishonestly making it appear as if it was the Washington Times speaking.
Go away, Alan. Your days at Fox are nearing an end. hopefully, Airheads America has something for you.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Hey Janon, who picked you to be the personal defender of that numbskull Colmes? Find something useful to do, like read his copy before he blogs it.
Louie the Libtard, get a rabies shot man — I’m worried about you.
William
August 31st, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Well Alan you sure know how to get the crazies to show their true colors. Questioning a VP nominee’s judgment is fair game.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:31 pm
I find it interesting the “right” to choose abortion quickly becomes the “responsibility” to choose Abortion and pond scum like Colmes will not hesitate to call you irresponsible for choosing Life.
Thanks Vice President for being a good example! Thanks for choosing Life!
August 31st, 2008 at 11:32 pm
I find it interesting the “right” to choose abortion quickly becomes the “responsibility” to choose Abortion and pond scum like Colmes will not hesitate to call you irresponsible for choosing Life.
Thanks Vice President Palin for being a good example! Thanks for choosing Life!
August 31st, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Personal defender? I just hate when people make such fallacious claims. I’m trying to prevent people from jumping to conclusions when the information they need is just seconds away or staring them in the face.
Excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by “read his copy before he blogs it”?
August 31st, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Colmes is despicable. He and his kind are precisely why this country is in a tailspin. Never an orginal thought, but simply parroting the left talking points. His problem is that he sits on his brains and has diarreha of the mouth.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Colmes,your rhetoric has reached the bottom with the Palin insults.You have no decency or integrity.You lie and mielead every time you open your mouth on your radio show.I could live with your appearance if not for the crap that comes out of your mouth.Go to hell Colmes.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Everyone should be sure to check out little Louie the Liberal’s myspace page.
Gulp…choking back laughter…..he’s 17 and his lack of education is showing.
Thank God he can’t vote.
But…where on earth is his mother? Because someone sure needs to stick a bar of soap in the kid’s mouth……..
And Louie….perhaps this discussion is above your “pay grade” ya think?
August 31st, 2008 at 11:41 pm
Congratulations Alan,
You gotten about 500 blogs — big and small — to notice what you’ve done over here.
http://www.technorati.com/posts/St7UAnJ7nf_sshR%2BI4K1A9DIuEj8Lp3YX6lojiHI2e8%3D
I have to say, however, that the headlines are not pretty. But then again I don’t think you’ll ever find this out since the comments above have probably pretty much melted your mind.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:44 pm
Conservatives Hate??? You have GOT to be joking. Oh, let’s see, think Michael Moore.
This whole Palin thing will go down in the annals of feminism as its most embarrassing and darkeest hour if the barbs keep up.
The righties over the years did not even do to Clinton what has been done to this woman in just two days.
It just shows a lack of total morality, ethics, shame, and class.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:46 pm
Hey Alan – Simply put you are a disgraceful and vile POS. Is everything open to political discourse? Do you have any sense of decency about you? Obviously not.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:52 pm
Hey Alan – Simply put you are a disgraceful and vile POS. Is everything open to political discourse? Do you have any sense of decency about you? Obviously not. You suck.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:53 pm
It just goes to show that their are “accident” babies, my Mom had one 5 years after the 3rd one(yes, she did have 4 kids). They were VERY fortunate that she didn’t have downs. I know what you Dem’s and feminazi’s would do, ABORT, ABORT, ABORT…
Dem’s are SO out of touch with main-stream America, or flyover America, or middle America…
August 31st, 2008 at 11:54 pm
Michael Moore’s email address: MMFLINT@aol.com
August 31st, 2008 at 11:55 pm
You first post was sickening; this one is even worse. You could have done the right thing Alan and apologized. Your choice not to reminds us all that you meant everything you said. As far as Obama’s choices to be friends with terrorists and racists, he is the one who told us he has good judgement….
http://www.barackobama.com/2007/07/25/obama_better_judgment_on_forei.php
August 31st, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Hey Alan – Simply put you are a disgraceful and vile POS. Is everything open to political discourse? Do you have any sense of decency about you? Obviously not. You suck, you hateful and spiteful poor excuse for a human being.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Well Alan as you can see we are Bringing It On Buddy. I feel so embarrassed for you. More than usual. You really should take some time off. You can watch everything on TV while your getting better. Don’t forget you meds.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Well Alan, you had a chance tonight on H&C from Mn to acknowledge what kind of idiot you are. You took the chicken shit way out. I hope you sleep well tonight. Hope you don’t suffer from nightmares from the hell your mind exists in.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:01 am
Alan, I dropped you and Hannity an email, but may as well respond here too. I can’t even imagine what was floating around in your mind when you made your comments. How can an individual be so hate-filled?? To lash out at a political oponent over a Downs baby? This is the Democrat party today?? Really.
Well bud, it isn’t America. And a vile and hate-filled positon such as this will flush Obama down the toilet of history.
Perhaps a little more time is church?
September 1st, 2008 at 12:01 am
Same on you Alan, I watch your show everyday I never thought you would sink so low. There are two reasons why you should not have challenged her judgment to fly home.
1. You are a man and have no idea what it’s like to have a baby.
2. You are not a doctor.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:04 am
Hi Allan -
I’ve been listening to your radio show for over a year now, and have always found it to be innovative and informative. No longer — I’ll be listening to Jim Bohannon now.
Using a disabled child as a political pawn is reprehensible. I’d expect it from a tool like Hannity or Limbaugh — but not from you.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:07 am
Alan,
Although I disagree with your political beliefs, I used to think you were at least somewhat of a gentleman in the arena of debate and discourse. I once thought you held to some line of ethics and manners in arguing your beliefs.
No more. You have shown yourself for what you really are: a desperate, pathetic worm who, faced with having no philosophical, ideological, logical, or moral foundation whatsoever, will therefore go to any lengths whatsoever — no matter how despicable — in trying to push forward his misguided agenda.
You have crossed over and are now beyond the pale: once you were a tolerable (if often infuriating) liberal pundit. You are now a loathsome scumbag without a shred of scrupulosity or dignity; a slave to the sick and twisted “radical liberalism at all costs” philosophy. And it’s to your own undoing. Take off, you creep.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:09 am
The longer Alan remains ‘on the air’ the more ridiculous he’s becoming. He reminds me of a kid who tries and tries to fit in with the bullies at school and ends up with even the bullies telling him to shut up. His comments about Sarah Palin are absolutely ignorant. Alan, are you reverting back to your days in 9th grade?
September 1st, 2008 at 12:12 am
Alan has no obligation to apologize to anyone when they are the ones doing the misinterpreting, just as Hillary did not apologize when people assumed she was insinuating the possibility of Obama’s assassination.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:13 am
Alan left out the fact that Palin’s doctor gave her the OK to get in the plane before labor.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:22 am
http://beltwayblips.com/blogs/
Maybe you should be thanking AP and Ed, looks like they have greatly contibuted to your readership….
September 1st, 2008 at 12:24 am
You’re scum, Alan. I haven’t watched anything you’ve been on in years. I may well saunter over to Fox.com and fire off a couple of e-mails calling for your ouster. It’s long overdue.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:24 am
TO JOYCE:
My, you are a pompous, thinks she does-but does NOT- know it all!
You are sooooooo UNinformed! Your water can break andc it is NOT an emergency! UCSF one of the top hospitals in the naqtion – didn’t seem to think so, when they told ME to come in 14 HOURS LATER!!!!
Sudden BLEEDING would be more of an emergency, obviously, but not water breaking. Geez, 4 kids any YOU didn’t know this??????? I rest my case, as I HAVE been there – you, all-knowing one – obviously HAVE NOT! So please save us the haughty HUGE tome next time, as it was all wasted know-NOTHING-on-the-actual-topic NONSENSE.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:28 am
TO JOYCE:
My, you are a pompous, thinks she does-but does NOT- know it all!
You are sooooooo UNinformed! Your water can break and it is NOT an emergency! UCSF one of the top hospitals in the nation – didn’t seem to think so, when they told ME to come in 14 HOURS LATER!!!!
Sudden BLEEDING would be more of an emergency, obviously, but not water breaking. Geez, 4 kids and YOU didn’t know this??????? I rest my case, as I HAVE been there – you, all-knowing one – obviously HAVE NOT! So please save us the haughty HUGE tome next time, as it was all wasted know-NOTHING-on-the-actual-topic NONSENSE.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:28 am
Louie, Louie, louie, chill baby. Your going to have a heart attack. Calm down and quit yelling and cursing at people. It’s going to be ok. I see you have a little problem with the word experience. It seems to set you off.
I understand since Obama has neither judgement or experience, but it’s ok. Don’t get so upset. It’s very sad that you can’t debate the facts intelligently, so you call me stupid and cuss people out. And your mature remark “can’t wait to see their ugly fat faces when (the Dali)-Obama wins?” How old are you Louie, five? That is Brilliant. And as far as using the word neocon, you shouldn’t use “big” words you obviously don’t know the meaning of. You are one of the main reasons there are so many liberals that are going conservative. The level of anger on your part is frightning. This will be the last time I chat with you, Louie, since you can’t debate the facts, you’re no challenge, no gentleman?, and you are way too obsessed with NObama. Go McCain/Palin and Louie, get a life.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:32 am
(abv typos caught too late – my bad – sorry all!)
September 1st, 2008 at 12:36 am
I actually enjoyed Hannity & Colmeees at one time. I thougt Colmes gave a balanced view of the other side in a constructive way.
Now he his just a talking points guy and hitmaman for the DNC. What ba JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 1st, 2008 at 12:38 am
As with so many liberals today you really are pathetic as to the way in which you are attempting to lie about and denigrade Palin. Of course I’ve gotten to the point you do what I expect from today’s liberals. No more H & C. Just can’t take the hypocrisy and absolute absence of objectivity, fairness, tolerance or compassion. With people like you and the Michael Moores and Jimmy Carters of the world we will never be a united people again. Sad, sad day for this country.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:40 am
Libs get the vapors over the “politics of personal destruction” lest anyone question their Supreme High Messiah Obama – but look at this crap – and now they are suggesting the Palin’s 16 year old daughter was pregnant…LOW CLASS – but not at all unexpected.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:42 am
Is it a full moon or something?
September 1st, 2008 at 12:43 am
There are more than enough issues to discuss that all FOUR candidates have in common. Personal issues such as religion play a major role in selecting a candidate, but to bring up an issue that only one candidate out of four can possibly experience is true sexism at its finest.
Alan, Sarah was following the advice of her own doctor. She showed good judgement by consulting her doctor before she made any decision herself. You, however, showed bad judgement for questioning her doctor’s care of her.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:53 am
Sarah Palin will get thru this and anything else the panicky left make up. besides if we are to believe Sen Obama on this issue, Sarah could have just had the baby on the plane then stuck it under the seat or stashed it in the luggage rack, and went on with her life. You folks going to regret this tactic, mark these words.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:58 am
… “because of the vile comments made by a pletehora of conservatives who decided to invade the site and show us just how decent and value-driven some of them are.”
Talk is cheap. Why not put that vile post/topic back on-line and prove your allegations instead of applying your special version of the ‘Fairness Doctrine’?
September 1st, 2008 at 12:58 am
You can’t blame this one on conservatives, there were plenty of angry liberals on your comments page last night. I copied the source code just before you deleted everything; I could quote them precisely if I wanted to. But I imagine you’ll just delete that as well.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:59 am
I really enjoy the Hannity and Colmes show. Hannity’s great, and you seem like a likeable enough person.
I don’t really have much to comment on regarding this topic.
I just wanted to jump on the bandwagon and call you a moron. In general. You know- for your opinions on the show.
:)
September 1st, 2008 at 1:11 am
So much for a normal show Monday. The righteous anger of the conservative hate machine. The fake shock and outrage is overwhelming…
September 1st, 2008 at 1:11 am
Ugly, disgusting, shameful. Gutter politcs of the hard left trying to destroy a good woman who will make history. the good news is, once the ‘real world’ outside of blogging sees this vile filth, they will come down like a ton of bricks on the filth spewers and rally hard to Palin.
Great work Rogers Cadenhead and Alan Colmes.
No go hide your heads in shame.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:12 am
Gee, Alan, it seems that you and your comrades at the DailyKos have managed to revolt even most die-hard liberals in “following up on” the Palin pick.
So this is how the leftist propaganda machinery works? Yeah, you know what? It really is more than enough to put folks off their lunch and dinner.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:16 am
No, Furyus, the outrage and shock are real; it’s your warped little world that’s fake.
PS, Diana, the deleted post is also cached on Google search results; as this one will be when Alan “nothing is beneath me” Colmes eighty-sixes it as well.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:22 am
The right and their fucking God. Not everyone is a christian you fucking idiots. Go suck on a Bible…
September 1st, 2008 at 1:27 am
Everyone…if you want to see one of Alan’s typical supporters…and what they support…be sure to click on FURYUS in the link above.
Just don’t have a weak stomach.
Nice, Alan…yet you have the gall to complain that conservatives have “overrun” your blog and *gasp* disagreed with you. Oh, the horror……
From the absolute tripe that Alan posted about Sarah Palin you just know this is one of his favorite sites.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:27 am
Thats right you delicate little flower…
September 1st, 2008 at 1:31 am
Dr. Alan,
Please keep questioning Sarah Palin’s judgement as a mother and a woman. It really helps the McCain/Palin ticket and we conservatives appreciate your help so very much! Women always love it when men tell them how it is to have a baby! BTW~I have had 3 kids. (I was induced once so I won’t count that one for this argument.) The first one I was leaking amniotic fluid for 2 days and didn’t even realize it. (I guess I could have made the flight to Alaska too!) The second time my water fully broke, but I wasn’t in labor. Six hour later I had to be given pitocin to start contractions. Once again, I could have flown to Alaska if I so chose. (This was my 3rd child). A woman knows when she is in labor and my guess is that she and her doctor had a conversation and made an informed decision based on that conversation.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:35 am
“It really is more than enough to put folks off their lunch and dinner.”
LoL, hey that’s funny.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:46 am
Alan,
It is not the questioning about Sarah Palins judgement that offended me, it was the method and direction you chose to take. Are you privy to all of the decisions regarding her labor? If not, then this is a very very stupid road to have taken to make your point. At the Very Best – You made yourself to look like a hypocrite and a fool.Though I was willing to give you a slight benefit of the doubt your posting of Jaru’s Statements in support of you destroyed what little respect I had left. You and your minion Jaru made “Princess Mooseburger” and her “Mentally Retarded” child look like saints. You just look like a bitter fool.
Surely as an Educated Journalist you could have done better than this?
September 1st, 2008 at 1:54 am
Alan,
You let us look at your heart and it is ugly.
September 1st, 2008 at 1:55 am
lol@axey
I have a question too Alan, with your new found medical expertise on women’s health issues. I’m curious for an experts advise on tampons, you see sometimes I have a really heavy flow, you know how those are I’m sure, with your expertise and all, there’s the blood clots and flooding, it tends to get rather messy, I was wondering if you feel that super-absorbency tampons are safe? If so, is there a certain brand you feel is best? Also, how about the ones that are scented for odor protection, you know how that is too I’m sure, do you feel those are safe to use too?
Thanks!
September 1st, 2008 at 1:59 am
If its a question of pro-choice and judgment you should be applauding Governor Palin for Choosing what was best for her. If your worried that she’ll do it again, thats very doubtful because of her age and size of family. And If you want us to believe your worried for the Baby (try again) we know your choice would have been abortion.
September 1st, 2008 at 2:02 am
Alan,
I truly want to thank you for the great big Boost you gave the McCain / Palin Campaign this weekend. And on a seperate note, KJ makes a good point. On those days when we girls don’t feel “oh so fresh” do you recomend a Scented or Unscented Douche? You made your point very clearly that you have expert judgement on Gynocological issues… you are now our Tampon, Douche and Enema Go To Guy!
September 1st, 2008 at 2:11 am
Alan,
This is one of the meanest things you’ve said, and I hope FOX NEWS gets rid of you, and puts Kirsten in your place. Hannity and Powers.. she’s a liberal, and she’s NOT HATEFUL like you! (I’m not sure if this is her name, but you know who I’m talking about – she did a great job when she filled in for you.)
September 1st, 2008 at 2:15 am
Great weasel “apology” – “I’m sorry I wasn’t more clear.” Get a conscience and a spell checker.
September 1st, 2008 at 2:15 am
Hey, Alan
I always thought you were a educated progressive metrosexual latte liberal, turns out your a uneducated male chauvinist pig.
By the way, when was the last time your water leaked and you gave birth? Do even know what the difference is between a high tear and a rupture? Do you know what it feels like to have a small amount of fluid leak out of your birth canal? Yeah, I didn’t think so.
Now ask yourself, would you ask Senators Obama, McCain, or Biden: When your wives were in labor and your children were being born, where were you? What were you doing? Did you do ALL that a good father is suppose to do? And they didn’t do everything according to the books, are you going to question their judgement, and call them unfit for the job of President or Vice President?
Oh yeah, and one more thing I reported you here,http://www.womensmediacenter.com/sexism_watch.html twice tonight. Once for this little bit of sexism and once for the sexist post on 8/28 when you call into question Gov. Palin’s first childs birth and why she eloped. The comments you allow unedited and unmonitored calls into question the fact that you appear to be encouraging sexist and misogynistic rants against Gov. Palin.
Colmes you and your kind should know, if you want to throw down the race card to protect and elect your baby Obama. Than be forewarned, what goes around, comes around. You got away with it with Sen. Clinton, we will not let you get away with it with Gov. Palin too. We will EXPOSE the MSM and their sexist comments where ever and when ever we see them.
http://www.womensmediacenter.com/sexism_watch.html
September 1st, 2008 at 2:26 am
Mysogynists are flooding out of the woodwork like cockroaches. This from the man who said just a few days a go he was “glad” McCain chose a woman. Glad so you could behave like a scared, sniveling little mysogynist bully? Make a public apology to Gov. Palin (and her husband) on Hannity & Colmes for that column and maybe you’ll have a snowball’s chance in Hades of ever having credibility again. Next, go apologize to your mother if she will still claim you. Your wife must be so proud, not!
September 1st, 2008 at 2:38 am
Alan,
As I did not see your original comment about Mrs.Palin…I can’t really comment on that. But the troubling thing to me is the way you apologize! In fact any apology would be inadequate! For the word apology has it’s root in a Greek ( I believe) word “apologia”….which in essence means to make an excuse for your actions. You really need to personally talk to Mrs Palin and ask her to forgive you….
I had always thought you rather mild mannered for a liberal….but I see I was wrong.
NObama….for me!
Vote for McCain/Palin in 08!
September 1st, 2008 at 2:43 am
Greetings Dr. Colmes:
I read your medical assessment/criticism of Gov. Palin. I was quite curious as to where and when you received your MD degree. Maybe you haven’t kept up on the latest thinking in obstetrics care, especially amniotic sac rupture. It’s tough to read all of the medical journals if you have a busy medical practice. And btw Dr. Colmes, you do know that airplane cabins were pressurized some decades ago, don’t you?
BTW, as a medical professional, I’m sure you contacted Gov. Palin’s doctor before you decided to criticize the actions of the patient. Otherwise one would suspect you of being quite unprofessional. Did Gov. Palin’s doctor agree with your medical opinion?
Dr. Colmes, one cannot be too diligent on such matters. There are TV pundits who love to regularly provide medical opinions when they have no knowledge of medicine or a patient’s history. So please let us know your medical credentials before anyone else accuses you of behaving like an ignoramus.
Cordially yours in medicine,
Dr. Max
September 1st, 2008 at 2:46 am
If Max is a doctor, I’m an astronaut.
Remember “piling on” from high school?
This is the internet age equivalent. And Alan is on the bottom of the pile!!
September 1st, 2008 at 3:06 am
Furyus, rest assured that I will kill you.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:06 am
^The best one of the bunch yet.^
Time to call the police about “Ken”.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:07 am
Yeah, go running to mommy.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:09 am
Well, at least report the IP address to “Ken’s” service provider and have his account “killed”. That should be easy enough to do.
You know my address. You know “Ken’s”.
No one is anonymous on the internets.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:13 am
The original post:
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:MsIxqdYdsLgJ:www.alan.com/2008/08/30/did-palin-take-proper-pre-natal-care/+palin+%22pre+natal+care%22+site:alan.com&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
September 1st, 2008 at 3:41 am
Alan,
Michael Moore is embarrassed by your inane remarks. Did anyone ever remind you that you have the perfect face for radio?
September 1st, 2008 at 3:43 am
Looks like you finally said Uncle Alan. (Pun intended)Finally a re-post. Bring it on anytime. Enjoyed it. Now get some sleep. You will need it for tomorrow.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:13 am
Alan- that was not an apology. I watch your show all the time. I’m conservative/libertarian, but I think Shaun is a windbag! I like the balance that you bring to the show. Now, I won’t be able to watch you without wincing; this is really sad.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:19 am
Typical liberal apology containing all the required elements… “sorry if I offended anyone” and “it’s the Republicans fault”.
Page pulled directly out of Bill Clinton’s book of sincerity. pfft.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:23 am
If you’re still up, Alan, take heart from this stream of drivel. The more of them there are and the deeper they pile it on, the more the sane among us admire you and your grit.
Still not sure whether I approve your staying with Fox – I certainly hate your being included in the ‘fear and bollocks’ propaganda commercials – but it’s your decision, not mine.
Best wishes anyway. It’s going to be a gruelling, but ultimately victorious few months. The weird but powerful coalition of neocons and fundie nutjobs is falling apart at the seams!
September 1st, 2008 at 4:48 am
Alan yesterday was the first time I could Google your name and so many bad things were said about you. The bonus…… they were all true! It made my day. Keep up the sexist remarks, it helps.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:58 am
Nice going Alan. Aren’t you the one who always berates the guests on your show for “smears” and “attacks”. Typical though that you would now chose to pick on a 4 month old with downs and his mother. Wow what a “man” you are.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:07 am
What the hell’s wrong with you retards? Alan Colmes posts a perfectly reasonable piece … which asks for civil debate and not merely the ladling on of hypocrisy from smear-merchants who are so used to winning “one-sided” phony debates that they presume that insulting, belittling, sneering and snarking are what adults do in a democracy to resolve issues.
Actually, the last time that civil debate failed, civil war followed. So let me take your arguments and reduce them to their lowest common denominator and toss them back to you:
You phony Righties are all poopy-heads. The rest is just flash and filigree.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:14 am
This is great, Alan:
>>>a nodding acquaintance with someone in his neighborhood<<<
You are using “nodding acquaintance” as a euphemism for “kicked off his political career in the man’s living room,” and that “someone in his neighborhood” was a convicted and still unremorseful terrorist. You would vote for any Democrat, wouldn’t you, just to move this country in a more socialist direction. And you would never vote for a Republican, even the one you have been praising for 8 years as someone who can work with Democrats. It just doesn’t matter who the better person is, does it? You just want us to be a socialist or communist country.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:27 am
Hey Hart,
I’ll have to disagree with your contention that Alan posted a “perfectly reasonable piece”. Alan does not have a medical degree, nor did he care to find out if Gov. Palin had been in contact with her doctor about taking such a flight. Instead, he turned to a newspaper article which cited a doctor from Sacremento with absolutely no contact with the patient. Had Alan done a bit of research before post such drivel, he might have discovered that Gov. Palin had consulted her doctor and made the trip.
Alan also didn’t seem to know that the water breaking is *not* a sign of imminent birth, and in fact several posters have mentioned as much with first hand experience. Did Alan even pause to consider that a woman on her 5th child might know a thing or two about her own body and the processes it goes through during pregnancy? I’ll bet he didn’t even consider it in his haste to post something, anything, that could call into question Palin’s judgment, which is a play for Obama because Obama gets the same meme about inexperience, but claims to have superior judgment (especially in foreign affairs, where he considers himself better than Biden, McCain or Clinton. His own website posts his quotes as such). So, because inexperience is a card that Obama supporters cannot reasonably play, Alan took the “lack of judgment” tact in order to compare to Obama’s apparent superior judgment. Alan even preps the reader that Obama has only a “nodding acquaintance” with Bill Ayers, the views of his spiritual advisor and pastor of 20 years were never heard nor known to him, and that Obama’s faith were off-base topics.
Finally, calling into question Gov. Palin’s decision making skills based upon this “story” seems to indicate Alan doubts the mothering skills of Gov. Palin. I cannot imagine he meant any other thing. Regardless, to question a female’s decision via her parenting skills based upon a rumor is something that does not get done to males, nor does it have a thing to do with politics.
This wasn’t a call for civil debate, this was an effort by Alan to start his own smear campaign against Gov. Palin. Further evidence of the left’s efforts to smear Gov. Palin are seen at the various left-wing sites such as DKos, which has a very popular piece questioning the legitimacy of Sarah Palin’s 5th child (as opposed to her teenage daughter).
Perhaps in the future we could have a civil discussion when the left brings forth worthwhile topics for discussion. I’m sure there is plenty about the McCain/Palin stance on politics that the left disagrees with and we’ll be happy to discuss them.
[b]If we are to believe Sen. Obama, the left wants to “Fight the Smears”, so why don’t you guys start at home, eh?[/b]
September 1st, 2008 at 6:00 am
Why don’t you quit and go over to the Obama Network at MSNBC where your mysgonistic, uninformed, biased and despicable comments would be welcomed with open arms?
The problem with Liberals, and there are many, is that you don’t like looking in the mirror and be found wanting. If you have no character, no morals, no ethical foundations in your leaders, than you’re life can’t be held up to scrutiny. There is no line Liberals won’t cross, no boundaries that will hold you back from living large and engaging in character assassination….sex, drugs and rock n roll…make love not war…it’s still the sixties for the American Left…you want to talk about damage to our children and the future of this country? Look in the mirror!
September 1st, 2008 at 6:28 am
It’s been reported that Dr. Laurie Gregg is active in Democrat circles. It’s very likely that her assessment has a political motivation. Perhaps you may try to get a larger sample of medical option before posing nonsense.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:29 am
BRAVO, Alan, bravo!
September 1st, 2008 at 7:27 am
The word “Judgement,” has been bandied about and used by spin heads like you as it relates to almost anything…suffice it to say that when it comes to the innuendos that you suggested by your deleted post, here’s what it showed to me…not, “Good judgement,” “Poor judgement,” but, “NO JUDGEMENT.” It will be posts like yours, and snide comments by the other pundits, that will only serve to galvanize the voters behind just what we need, a brand new face in the Beltway with a short, but well documented record of achievement and leadership…It will take more than a foolish post such as yours to derail what all will see going forward, a woman with values, ideals,someone to trust and the support of the american public, as the second in command after the next election..
September 1st, 2008 at 7:55 am
Joyce, just so you can share this with your friends at KOS, DU and Huffington Post. Here is a link to the photo of Sarah Palin. I guess you will have to revise your slander on Sarah’s daughter having the baby and the mother covering for her.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30076181@N02/2814199887/sizes/l/
September 1st, 2008 at 7:55 am
I read a lot of incredibly vile comments last night on the site that sent me here. But they were all from Democrats. I’ll be posting some of them on my blog later today, if anyone wants to compare them to the allegedly vile conservative comments here.
September 1st, 2008 at 8:06 am
Alan, please have Sarah Palin’s husband sit next to you on Hannitty and Colmes and you ask him yourself if his wife was pregnant when they married. Then you tell us how this is relevant and the # of Dems you have asked that question. Also tell him that Sarah should have called you to find medical advice instead of calling her dr. FACE TO FACE with the man, Alan. Be brave.
September 1st, 2008 at 8:09 am
Saying you’re sorry that your post wasn’t clear enough is like saying you’re sorry that you weren’t smart enough to figure that out. It’s the normal non-apology apology from liberals.
September 1st, 2008 at 8:16 am
UBELIEVABLE…JUST UNBELIEVABLE
You better watch out alan because if she appears on H&C she just might bitch slap you….and she’d be right in doing so.
Her personal medical decisions that you libs keep saying are no ones business but the womans are just that alan. None of your DAMN business!!!!!
September 1st, 2008 at 8:41 am
What is “caculating?” Alan, please tell me in own words why does greater hate of each other occur more during campaigns and elections? Certainly apparent that are some who use “hate” as a weapon. It seems that far too many folks never read, nor believe, what God said to Moses (Leviticus 19:18),”You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the chidren of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord.” Jesus said, “Love one another as I have loved you.” (See if you can match my 51-years of communicating broadcast news)Hate destroys the user! BBJ
September 1st, 2008 at 8:44 am
Hey Al!
If someone lacks proper judgment, I believe it’s you Ms beta male!
September 1st, 2008 at 8:52 am
Alan – a lot of people have said a lot of things about this and I’m sure the whole episode is causing you concern.
I hope by now you realise that it is impossible to squeeze the toothpaste back into the tube – especially for an internationally known pundit.
The blogosphere maybe a young medium, but as with any medium there are customs.
Never delete your posts.
Even if your own words now make you cringe remember – someone, somewhere has a copy.
If you remove your embarrassing post, the removal looks desperate and, of itself, become news for you to deal with.
Same thing with blaming the removal on people who were upset at your words. (As you, by now, know comments are no excuse for deleting your own post. You can freeze or delete comments).
If you stand by your initial thoughts then argue them in the comments section.
If a post needs “clarifying” then clarify in a new post or use an “update” to the original.
Golden rule though – when you are in a hole, stop diging.
The best thing for you to do now is just offer an unreserved apology, apologise to Palin, apologise to your readers and spell out that your apology extends to the conservative readers that you blamed for your own fuck up.
Admit why you REALLY took down the post and promise to learn the correct etiquette in future.
September 1st, 2008 at 8:57 am
Ed Morrisey from HotAir just called you a liar, and he has the documents to prove it. If you have the courage, perhaps you can do a little research. If not, Ed did it for you.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/31/alan-colmes-should-read-for-comprehension/
HA has said again and again, the birth certificate story is bogus! So did Jim Geraghty from NRO. And now they get blamed for just “talking” about it, even though they are defending BHO.
Stay classy. Oh wait, you can’t.
September 1st, 2008 at 8:59 am
For those of you who missed the retracted post:
“Did Palin Take Proper Pre-Natal Care?
August 30th, 2008, 9:54 PM EDT By Alan Colmes
Rogers Cadenhead gives the timeline associated with the birth of her newest child. She had a speech in Dallas and, even after the water broke, continued with her activities, and then boarded a plane for home. She did consult by phone with her doctor.
Still, a Sacramento, Calif., obstetrician who is active in the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, said when a pregnant woman’s water breaks, she should go right to the hospital because of the risk of infection. That’s true even if the amniotic fluid simply leaks out, said Dr. Laurie Gregg.”
September 1st, 2008 at 9:00 am
Really pathetic..I am the youngest of 13 kids..going on 66..my borther would have neen about 68 now but died from down syndrome. Are you telling me my mother didn’t know what she was doing. You are an insult to anyone who has given birth…but you wouldn’t know about that..Liberals were hatched and believe it. Just like your mentor kill em at any price..find an excuse..suck their tiny brains from their bodies. Oops..I used the word brains…again Liberals know nothing about that.
September 1st, 2008 at 9:04 am
I am soooo tired of people of the “party of sensitivity and tolerance” making the most egregious comments only to turn around and say I’m sorry. Well I’m sorry, but that doesn’t cut it anymore. Those words are not “fairy dust” that makes everthing “all better”. Particulary when the party of sensitivity and tolerance continually spews such thoughtless and ulgy comments…
September 1st, 2008 at 9:14 am
Alan….you have about as much class as Michael ” I’ll eat anything that does not eat me first” Moore. I’ll just bet you were so excited to see a hurricaine coming also. Have Gov. Palin on your show Alan, she will ,very politely I’m sure, grind you to bits. How does Sean Hannity do it every day????
September 1st, 2008 at 9:24 am
I’m curious, Alan — what does your Women’s Studies” professor wife have to say about your making the reproductive choices/prenatal care/sexual history of a female politician the subject of such scurrilous posts?
September 1st, 2008 at 9:39 am
Alan you are a POS and the biggest hypocrite of all times, most lib’s are. When Kerry was running three years ago you and all your other libs said the republicans should stop attacking him personally when they proof that he was lying about his Vietman experience. People should only talk about his current ideas. WHAT are YOU talking about NOW when it comes to Sarah Palin. Her personal life or her ideas and her history as governnor. You are doing the personal attacks just like you lib’s accused the rep’s of. GET SOME CREDITABILITY.
Roger
September 1st, 2008 at 9:39 am
Geez, man. When you are in a hole over your head, stop digging. I think you’ve become unhinged by Palin as the VP pick. What the hell if the matter with you? This is Daily Kos stuff – and the opinion I had of you as fair minded is gone forever.
September 1st, 2008 at 9:42 am
Amen, Joe. The tolerance and sensitivity DEMANDED by the left is totally optional and quickly and utterly discarded when it comes to anyone on the right saying or doing anything they don’t like.
September 1st, 2008 at 9:45 am
Alan what a heartfelt apology. You say something insulting and stupid. Not unusual for you. You get called on it in the comments section. You delete all the evidence at least try to cached copies of you moronic comment are all over the internet. Then blame the comments section for what you said. Typical leftist no balls and can’t accept reponsability for there actions.
Shhhh by the way I know you are really a conservative. I listened to you radio show in San Luis Obispo Ca in the early 90’s. Remember Hillary Reckem Clinton not to be confused with Hillary Rectum Clinton? That was one of you famous saying on your show. You are a fake liberal Alan and some of us know it LOL.
September 1st, 2008 at 9:50 am
Alan what a heartfelt apology. You say something insulting and stupid. Not unusual for you. You get called on it in the comments section. You delete all the evidence at least try to cached copies of you moronic comment are all over the internet. Then blame the comments section for what you said. Typical leftist no balls and can’t accept reponsability for there actions.
Shhhh by the way I know you are really a conservative. I listened to you radio show in San Luis Obispo Ca in the early 90’s. Remember Hillary Wreckem Clinton not to be confused with Hillary Rectum Clinton? That was one of you famous saying on your show. You are a fake liberal Alan and some of us know it LOL.
September 1st, 2008 at 9:50 am
Oh Ken you are such a scary little pussy aren’t you?
September 1st, 2008 at 9:51 am
Alan what a heartfelt apology. You say something insulting and stupid. Not unusual for you. You get called on it in the comments section. You delete all the evidence at least try to cached copies of you moronic comment are all over the internet. Then blame the comments section for what you said. Typical leftist no balls and can’t accept responsability for there actions.
Shhhh by the way I know you are really a conservative. I listened to you radio show in San Luis Obispo Ca in the early 90’s. Remember Hillary Wreckem Clinton not to be confused with Hillary Rectum Clinton? That was one of you famous saying on your show. You are a fake liberal Alan and some of us know it LOL.
September 1st, 2008 at 9:52 am
Alan what a heartfelt apology. You say something insulting and stupid. Not unusual for you. You get called on it in the comments section. You delete all the evidence at least try to cached copies of you moronic comment are all over the internet. Then blame the comments section for what you said. Typical leftist no balls and can’t accept responsibility for there actions.
Shhhh by the way I know you are really a conservative. I listened to you radio show in San Luis Obispo Ca in the early 90’s. Remember Hillary Wreckem Clinton not to be confused with Hillary Rectum Clinton? That was one of you famous saying on your show. You are a fake liberal Alan and some of us know it LOL.
September 1st, 2008 at 9:52 am
Allen – I’m very disappointed in you.
September 1st, 2008 at 9:52 am
Alan:
It is interesting that here is a candidate that has executive experience and has walked the talk… you have nothing to attack her on but to resort to the birth of her fifth child. It is sad and pathetic. It is also so boring when liberals continue to have the play on the words. Her judgment is what you are questioning ..you say..just like Bill Clinton said he did not have sexual intercourse with that woman. Come on who are you kidding.
From a woman who was born from liberal parents.
September 1st, 2008 at 9:56 am
Sorry about multiple posts the system seems as screwed up as Alan Brahahahahah
September 1st, 2008 at 9:56 am
Alan, how would you know! You have reached a new low–just trying to throw some of your slime on someone else. Having seen you on H&C gave me the idea that you had some redeeming qualities: my mistake.
September 1st, 2008 at 9:57 am
Alan I watch you and Sean religiously. BUT, your comment about why the Palin’s eloped is absolutely ridiculous! Counting the number of months from a marriage until a child is born was from the 50’s gossip line by old busy bodies. If you did that in todays world you would certainly find thousands of children conceived out of wedlock (or they had to get married).
Get a life, and come to today’s world!
September 1st, 2008 at 9:57 am
I love all the initials describing this weasel in a suit that happens to be on FOX. He wouldn’t be without Hannity. Noboby would listen!
September 1st, 2008 at 9:58 am
I love all the initials describing this weasel in a suit that happens to be on FOX. He wouldn’t be without Hannity. Noboby would listen!
September 1st, 2008 at 9:58 am
Alan,
What a p*ssy! You whine about epithet-hurling and then use a quote that refers to Princess Mooseburger. Put the article back up (not some lame screen shot), turn off the comments, and let the chips fall. It will be o.k. Liberals are allowed to stereotype, insult, and lie.
September 1st, 2008 at 10:11 am
You probably would have had her abort the baby, huh Alan? So your not sorry you made the comments you just are upset that people got mad at the comments. What a slimey liberal move as usual…..Got caught saying something stupid, blame everyone else….
September 1st, 2008 at 10:22 am
What a jackass you are Alan Colmes.
You are why this Black Man will never vote Dem.
I know the truth you guy think you better than any one.
September 1st, 2008 at 10:24 am
Alan,
I’ve been watching your show on Fox for years, and while I don’t agree with you almost all of the time, I was stunned when I read what you wrote about Gov. Palin.
To stoop that low as to suggest she harmed her child is something I would expect to hear someone would post on the KOS. But coming from you, very disappointing. You’ve sunk to a new a low…a low that has defined many in your party, but up until now, not you. I guess it was only a matter of time.
September 1st, 2008 at 10:26 am
Alan, you are a gutless, morally bankrupt liberal.
One might question whether or not your own mother was pre-natally careful during your term.
The majority of Democrats are reasonable folks (they are actually Repubs and don’t know it), however, your party has been taken over by vile extremist.
You have begun to interrupt guest even more than O’Reilly, so how about giving it a rest.
September 1st, 2008 at 10:30 am
I’m sincerely confused! How is it that a woman is deemed perfectly sane when, after consulting with her doctor, she chooses to kill a full-term fetus; however, the same woman is considered to have poor judgment when, following her doctor’s advice, she chooses to fly home and have an MD familiar with her medical history safely deliver a live baby? Can someone explan *choice* to me – please?!
September 1st, 2008 at 10:32 am
Alan, you made a serious error. Be a man and admit it.
Offer no excuses because nothing excuses your lack of basic human decency. This is the time to fall on your sword.
September 1st, 2008 at 10:37 am
Alan,
You have no honor, no sense of decency, and no integrity. Without those you have nothing.
September 1st, 2008 at 10:49 am
Alan, thank God you’re too ugly to breed.
September 1st, 2008 at 10:59 am
Way to go Joyce.
Look what the London Times has to say about your claims.
“If Mrs Palin, a conservative mother of five, ever doubted that landing on a national presidential ticket would open her to the harshest of spotlights and smear tactics, she also awoke yesterday to utterly unfounded internet rumours that her fifth child, born in April with Down’s syndrome, was actually her 17-year-old daughter’s. “
September 1st, 2008 at 11:00 am
Alan, you’re a vile hateful little man who needs to look in the mirror. Not only is your soul ugly so to is your face. I can’t believe as a Jew you would be this insensitive considering how insensitive Muslims are to Jews today. God bless Israel and long live the Israeli Defense Force. McCain Palin will protect Israel and not Obama a friend to muslims everywhere.
September 1st, 2008 at 11:13 am
Alan, To say that a mother who happens to be a VP would not choose to take proper care of her infant son, or any of her kids, while in office, shows ignorance. It’s obvious that Sarah Palin has taken great care of all her kids. Just because we’ve only had men in this office until November shows how the bias toward women with a family in a major political position in this country will play out in minds like yours. You are smarter than this, I hope. Please use your brain for issues, and not to attack the American family. And FYI, remember, both her husband and her oldest son are Dems!
September 1st, 2008 at 11:32 am
Alan,
I have a daughter with Downs Syndrome. Your whole take on prenatal care is totally wrong. Down Syndrome occurs at conception. If Sara felt that she could make it to Alaska with her doctors, GOD BLESS HER. No one knows how difficult pregnancy can be. She probably wanted to be with her own doctors.
For a man that supports “choice” you don’t want women to chose their own doctors.
You are an idiot who does not belong on TV.
Every parent with a Downs Syndrome child now hates you and is voting for McCain/Palin.
You are an uneducated MORON!!
September 1st, 2008 at 11:49 am
I guess everyone has said what I wanted to say and you have truely taken the beating that you deserve. OH OR PERHAPS YOU MIS-SPOKE! That is the new excuse for everyone now days. Or like Obama would say “You do not understand what I am saying (to intellegent for anyone else)”, or “thats not what I said”. As for judgment lets compare real quick like. Palin against corruption (went against her own party). Obama for corrupt Chicago. Never stood up wanted to become apart of it b/c it was his only ticket. Judgment – who you surround yourself with Ayers and Resko. They are not the people I use to know. Not my only reasons- He is for big government (big brother is watching), increased taxes (how else is he going to pay for everyone’s education, health care, and make the poor wealthy). Oh he will follow Bill – cut out defense and make us less secure (no attacks on USA since 9/11). Oh Universal Heath Care seems to be working fine in Canada and Europe (they are flocking to USA for treatment). Check some fact also. Unisured has good down by more than a million. On top of that 10 million can affored in but chose not to (young people, I use to be one) and the 11 million illegal immigrants. I love my health care and I am not paying for anyones health care or college education. By they way he says for everyone but there will be a waiting list. Paying for Education or making in affordable. It is applications already in place for example 529 – you either invest in a money market or you lock in that states current Tuition rates 18 years in advance. Oh by the way Biden seems to be raised by a conservetive family but he contridicts himself. Only conservative parents would tell him to get back-up when knocked down and bloody their nose. But then he says that he is disappointed that Washington has not done more to help those that have been knocked down (Big government). DNC was boring and disappointing from the standpoint that depressed me b/c they made USA sound like a third world country that SUCKS! Last time I check this is the greatest country in the world that people are dying to get into it.
September 1st, 2008 at 11:55 am
The latest from the smear campaign.
Michael Moore Removes His “Show Us The DNA!” Smear From Website Re: Palin’s Baby
The whole world is now watching. Including many an angry PUMA member.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:04 pm
As far as many on the left are concerned is the only appropriate pre-natal care for a Downs Syndrome child is to kill him/her…preferably by way of abortion but, if the likes of Obama have their way, leaving them to die in a linen closet, after surviving the abortion will do just fine.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Alan-
I don’t watch you and Hannity anymore. Why? Because I got tired of your ignorant, stupid remarks. I figured it had to be for show to get ratings. I no longer care. You ask stupid questions, you are incapable of thinking anything through, and you are so biased you cannot carry on an intelligent conversation. I don’t know how you got your job but you need to be replaced!
September 1st, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Run and hide you scurrilous piece of garbage.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:13 pm
These libs are running scared because they KNOW they just lost the election with McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin. They can’t argue the issues because they KNOW they will lose so they resort to personal attacks. I am a 40 year old white female who has never voted but you bet your ass I’ll be there Nov 4 to pull the lever for HER. Alan you just might get your first female Prseident of the United States, too bad for you that it will be a Republican and not a Democrat.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Alan,
Yes “It’s about Judgement, Stupid!” And by that I mean you used really poor judgement in this case… Your comments were extremely defammatory and anti-women…I have already written Fox News to demand that you be removed from Fox for your statements.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Alan,
Yes “It’s about Judgement, Stupid!” And by that I mean you used really poor judgement in this case… Your comments were extremely defammatory and anti-women…I have already written Fox News to demand that you be removed from Fox for your statements.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Alan,
I am advising you to put away the shovel and move on to a different topic. I am a conservative, but trust me…this would be the best thing for you right now.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Oh by the way Alan, since we’re making personal attacks on this site, I always thought that you looked (and think) like a product of incest. Let’s see if the Daily Kos will pick that one up.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Alan,
My wife is pregnant now. She told me that if she went into labor she would want to be with her doctor, not some stranger. It’s about women feeling comfortable with the doctor they have likely spent quite some time with. This is a baby and most women wouldn’t like the idea of the babies they bring into this world to be handled by strangers to both Mom and baby. Do you get it now?
September 1st, 2008 at 12:32 pm
So are you still incriminating every woman who has a child with problems? For goodness sake, Alan, show some compassion!
September 1st, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Ha, ha.. Is this what you want – be known by the whole world for your stupidy and rudeness?? This is a big mess you got yourself into, Alan. You gotta CHANGE your evil ways now. Of course, “YES YOU CAN” (remember, this is your party’s slogan!)
September 1st, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Good lord, you are more of an idiot than i thought.
You Alan,are a PINHEAD!
September 1st, 2008 at 2:21 pm
[...] What I did say was that it’s fair to question a person’s judgment if that person is seeking to be Vice President of the United States, just as the judgment of the Obama/Biden ticket has been heavily questoned. And part of that question of judgment has to do with life decisions that candidates make. In the case of Sarah Palin, it had to do with a choice to give a speech and then board a flight after contractions began and water began to break in last month of pregnancy with her fifth child. [...]
September 1st, 2008 at 2:31 pm
I’m not much of one for the liberal media conspiracies, and am not a republican, but the reaction to Palin is making me think twice.
The viciousness of these attacks are something that you would never see tolerated regarding Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton. If either of them had done the exact same thing, you would see feminists climbing over each other to say this is really a heroic example of a woman proving equality and overcoming the perception of the “weak pregnant woman”.
Let’s be honest- if you follow the Obama logic that women have the complete control over their body and some non-human, surprisingly baby-looking “fetal tissue” from conception until birth, then who cares what she did after the water broke? She could have just decided that after all childbirth was too big of a threat to her health and decided that she wanted to partial-birth it right then and there.
To boot- to the Palin “fake baby” rumor vs. the John Edwards rumor is incredible. The Daily Kos et al. wouldn’t touch the Edwards story and MSM wouldn’t even report on the rumors. Not so with Palin, they are on any hope of a rumor like white on rice.
I’m not saying that Palin is a saint, I’m just saying that this coverage is unbelievable. And Alan Colmes has just proven himself to be a total wimp by taking down the blog post when he could have just disabled the comments.
September 1st, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Alan,
You know, the more I see and hear from the left, the more convinced I am that you and your vile party, are nothing more than a new party of Hiter(also a liberal) Yes, they would most certainly have killed a “defected child” so you have much in common. Thing is Alan, he also killed gays… That being the case, what a shame YOUR MOTHER didn’t have an abortion!
September 1st, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Moron. Sarah Palin’s baby was diagnosed with Down’s Syndrome long before her water broke.
September 1st, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Where is the Imus outrage you piece of excrement. You should be suspended, ridiculed, and treated like Al Sharpton hates you.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:08 pm
The title you give this page, “It’s About Judgment, Stupid!” is, of course, a play on the similar remark, “Its the Economy, Stupid!” made by a former presidential candidate while running for election. That particular liberal, of course, was William Clinton and Mr. Clinton was being disrespectful towards the the President. It was little surprise then to see how Clinton showed little respect for the Oval Office itself. In the same fashion, you were being disrespectful to Gov. Palin and then the people who, correctly, responded to your thoughts. Being disrespectful seems to be a characteristic trait of the Liberal mindset. It must be disenfranchising to realize that Governor Palin has had more impact on the national discourse of events in one week than you have had in your career. I would suggest a careful reanalysis of your core values and your place in society, and, perhaps also, in history.
Cordially,
Peter Hemphill
Victoria, TX
September 1st, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Alan’s whole page here is a prime example of why Old MSM types should not be given keys to a blog. Without the filters of producers and editors, they often either shoot themselves in the foot or, as we see here, in the head.
Alan, blogging is not TV. You’re playing with live ammunition here and Google doesn’t permit subtle retakes. It keeps all takes.
September 1st, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Hey Allen, I hope Gov. Palin’s daughter is as wise as Sen. Obama’s mother and keeps her baby as Obama’s mother did!!!!! Even though they are both unwed mothers. Thanks, Dee from Texas
September 1st, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Alan you have outdone yourself this time. It is time to make a change. How about Hannity and Beckel?
September 1st, 2008 at 3:47 pm
To be honest I really hate that women would get attacked on her choices with regards to babies and children, I have to agree that taking 18 hours to get back to Alaska shows very bad judgement or stupidity. Her doctor made it clear that she did not approve her taking the flight.
Her doctor has awards, all doctors would have told her to get checked out after the speech ( semi urgent not stat kind of thing). What bothers me is not that she took some chances with the flight, is that she knew (see wsj article) that they might not have let her on the flight if she knew the situation. Why? cause emergency landings for things like child birth mid flight put everyone in some degree of danger and a marked degree of inconvenience. It smacks of very bad judgement and a lack of regards to others including the cost to the airline. There is no way her doctor told her to fly. If she did the doctor should loose her licence.
Anyway. forget this stuff on Palin, McCain’s judgement is really the issue here. Also all of us who blog should leave this kid alone. I wonder how these salacious rumours started? does anyone know??? were they not from alaska prior to any announcement?
September 1st, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Alan you and your commentary alone have turned my wife from liberal to conservative. Thank you. I used to be of the religion of perpetual persecution complex, AKA the Democratic party, you do have the right symbol. But I now vote for Republicans because when they break the law they go to jail, unlike democrats that gain power like mobsters the more they get away with. Kennedy Chapaquida/ Leahy and the CIA operative his exposure killed in the 80’s/ Clintons selling secrets to China and access to foreign trade for business like any common mobster. Rosconkowski gets 18 months for $4,000,000 in bribes while Duke Cunningham will die in jail for $2,000,000. I was a lefty but opened my eyes and ears and used the reason God gave me. And though I proposed to my wife a year before, she did not pick a date until we were with our first born. That was over 20 years ago. You will account to a higher authority than I, you are a useful fool. Thanks for educating my lovely wife, by your ridiculous commentary.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Too bad Alan, you are what you are. I’ve watched my last H&C.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:03 pm
That is real sad, you have to resort to the politics of personal destruction.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Why do you hate Freedom and Babies and love the Terrorists and flannel shirts, Alan Colmes?
September 1st, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Allan
You are so disapointed that she did not have a abortion. you and your fellow liberals are a sick and perverted group of worthless sub human debris. The silent majority is fed up with a biased liberal homo sexual lesbian communist idiots such as you.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:07 pm
What does Ossama Bin Lade and Barrack Obama have in common?
They both have a friend who bombed the Pentagon
Allan you can put a smoke screen over your anti American Liberal canidates but we see through it. If your brains were dynamite there would not be enough to blow your nose!
September 1st, 2008 at 4:15 pm
I am diaappointed in you. I thought you were a good man but your comments about Gov. Palin were very disturbing. My job is to work with special children and they are truly “Special” in wonderful ways. You had my respect, but lost it. I would pray you reconsider your remarks.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:16 pm
CREEP!
September 1st, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Alan:
You have changed your post twice since you deleted your original post that outraged so many people. Was the original post that bad? Why not repost it so we can all see how misguided your distractors are?
BTW, how long do we have to wait for a clever attack on Palin’s 17 year old daughter?
September 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Let me get this straight. Obama takes bribes from Rizzo and then bribes from others. and you call that chicago politics. Then he live and fellowships with hard core racists. and then 200 million dollars in middle eastern money is funneled into his campaign.
Either you are blind or just a sick brainwashed liberal who hates God and every pure thing.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Successful troll is Successful!
you just trolled a great many republican sycophants.
Awesome!
September 1st, 2008 at 4:37 pm
[...] – and apparently doesn’t subscribe to the theory that the best way to get out of a hole is to stop digging. The post about Sarah Palin’s pre-natal care was taken down because of the vile comments made by a [...]
September 1st, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Allan
I was once a hard core liberal Democrat until Obama showed up. I am first a American who loves God and our country. Unfortunately after seeing the Socialist and anti American Godless way of life of the Democrat party especially their hatered of the milatary and the love of aborting living babies I will never again vote democrat.
September 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
What a crap apology this is. Join me in writing letters to any corporation that sponsors this low excuse for a human being.
Here is why your apology is crap: You justify your post with a quote calling Sarah Palin ‘PRINCESS Mooseburger” No sexism and misogyny there? Man, my Democratic party has gone to hell being defended and driven by the likes of you. Wingnuts have always stted that the Left is the true source of hatred, racism, sexism… and now that the scales have been lifted from my eyes I see they were right.
You dissemble about Obama’s judgement in picking his friends and religious mentor by repeating the DNC talking points. When so may of Obama’s partial disclosures have been proven to be not accurate and obfuscatory? Hillary had to put up with this crap, but we voters don’t.
You can hear us ROAR can’t you?
Schmuck.
McCain/Palin 08
September 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Liberals – Repent now! Not? Fine. Don’t say we didn’t warn you.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Alan, you are a coward and a small person. Questioning Sarah Palin’s prenatal judgment is about as low as you can go. You are officially off my list. You have lost my respect. I will not be tuning into H&C anymore.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Allan
I thought you were for womans rights. But that is only for left wing liberal womans rights. You should be thankful for your mother not aborting you. After what you and fellow democrat women haters spilling your posion on a helpless baby and a loving mother you changed my heart. I did vote for Hilliary. Now I hve sent one thousand dollars to Mc Cain Palin. Thank God for a real woman and she is ten times the man you little sissy boy will ever be.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
lets see ? roe v wade , the k.k.k., george wallace , all the generals and admierals of the joint chief’s during wwII ,oppisition to the 1963 equal rights amendment ,signed underduress by a democrat president ,under the threat of a veto proof conservative majority in congress, support of all dictators around the world ,nancy pilocey in bed with the farc in south america (communist leftist ) and now a bias aginst a conservative governess , the democrat party is historacilly pro communism -facism ,trying to enslave the american people to the federal government and you being more equal than others being in command ,all democrats and u in perticular mr colmes are either useful idoits for a higher overarching leader ,or are trying to betray the freedom and liberty of the american people to tyrrany ,u sir are a traitor ,and i think rupert murdoc might have been trying to say something about cemocrats by putting u in as their spokes man on your program ,your resemblance to the AIR HEADS candy logo i think is calling all democrats air heads ,oh and another history lesson ,the acronym was NASI as 1930 germany alphabet the letter s looked like a lightning bolt and was mistaken for a z by american press ,the acronym 9the correct one ) NASI stands for NATIONAL SOCIALISTS ,and the american people will never accept socialism ,but under the guise of liberalism ,will swollow every precept of socialism and wake up one morning living in a socialist country ,and not know how they got there ,i know ,it was due to traitors like you,and too many people like me waking up too late to change things
September 1st, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Ms.Palin is 44 years old and very smart. This is real garbage for you to put out. I guess you have Palin Derangement Syndrome already. I would just LOVE to see what your sis-in-law says to you about this.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Obama voted to let living aborted babies die without any help. You love Obama. Sara Palin brings a baby to full birth and she showers her baby with such sweet love. And you find fault with her. Shame on you. You and your haters of living fetus and babies are a sick and perverted bunch. I am ashamed to say I was a democrat until this attack on a fellow sister was acceptable by many in our party. You and them will reap the hate and murder and deceit you have sown.
God Bless Sara Palin and a pox on her attackers
September 1st, 2008 at 5:37 pm
I feel like a fool viewing you as ‘the loyal opposition’ all these years. You (and many other libs) must really be running scared. The severity of the attacks can only mean she is an excellent choice.
September 1st, 2008 at 5:48 pm
[...] idiot (whose lot in life is to be himself, thus making Hannity appear smart) . Colmes at his liberaland wrote a a story blaming the sons Downs Syndrome on Palin having a job. “Did Palin Take Proper [...]
September 1st, 2008 at 6:06 pm
It is about judgment. It is about Alan Colmes astounding lack of judgment….
September 1st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
oh and take Michigan off your map the only libs are from detroit NOT the whole state. To quote “pissed american” from 8/31 “Die in a car fire you fucking asshole communist fuck”
September 1st, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Wow! After reading these posts, I’m shocked at the immaturity of fellow democrats. If you don’t watch your tongues, the Republicans have good reason to reject democratic leadership. Nobody wants childish foul mouthed people running the government.
September 1st, 2008 at 7:20 pm
The vile comments were from you Mr. Colmes.
September 1st, 2008 at 7:21 pm
After you “posted a clairificaton” to what you posted…hahahaha, who else has to post clairifications? Obama, that’s who, we have listened to many of them…Who has more executive experience than Obama…Palin, that’s who. Who has ducked taking a stand on a pending issue ? Obama has, over 175 times he’s voted “present” rather than the hard NO or YES on a bill and still collected his paycheck. Who said if one of his daughters became pregnant he wanted her to have the option of abortion ? Obama that’s who Alan. Gov Palin is Ronald Reagan in a skirt and I’m stoked..
September 1st, 2008 at 7:32 pm
This is exactly why I have left the Democratic party. The party of Michael Moore, the party of PETA, the party of socialists.
You are a sick man, Mr. Holmes.
September 1st, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Alan, I told you!
you cannot go around making the kinds of comments you sometimes make and still be a truthseeker General.
This one bit you more than the others, but its just another reckless and irresponsible thing to say.
Like the time you called McCain the worst kind of liar in the human race because the cross in the sand never happened to him, but he is so stupid and delerious that he imagined the cross in the sand story. thats what YOU wrote.
During McCains time as a POW, were YOU there? of course not. so your’ calling the cross in the sand story a total lie? Oh, wait sorry you only inferred it 99.99999%
so doing what hypocrites on the left do, you want your cake, and to eat it too.
“…oh it never happened, McCain was copying the quote from a book. No, I never tried to claim it never happened… ”
This is what you did, Alan. you push the line, maybe Ann Coulters dishonesty is affecting you. for example, why bother to stay only with the facts when its so much easier and fun to make up lies about people?
If they get mad? just say oh, yeah sorry or whatever… can’t you take a joke? you stupid conservatives are so stupid, if I had one dollar for every brain you dont have? Id have one dollar…
September 1st, 2008 at 8:05 pm
[...] where they belong” but they level the attack that her judgment needs to be questioned for having a child at age 44 and for running for Vice President with so many kids still around. Conservative America is judged [...]
September 1st, 2008 at 8:10 pm
You pitiful man.
September 1st, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Hello Alan,
You never answered my question about your middle name…is it Lucifer or Mephistopheles?
At this nexus, it really doesn’t matter, does it?!
Either way, you have succeeded in scraping the very bottom of the bottom.
I always suspected that you wouldn’t be on television without Sean Hannity…your performance confirms that suspicion.
Aloha!!
September 1st, 2008 at 8:35 pm
What I am having a hard time believing is that Fox News would even allow you on the air after your filthy, sleezy comments about Gov. Palin –
Someone who had had four children already knows her body much better than you think you do – your comments were nothing but attempted smears – you, as well as your far left friends, are totally despicable -
seph
September 1st, 2008 at 9:48 pm
You are a hopeless stupid jerk, Alan.
Go McCain not Hussein!
September 1st, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Alan,
You’re right. Your post in now way said Palin’s water breaking was a contributing factor to her baby’s Down’s Syndrome. BUT it certainly implied as such — why else would you offer the original post in the first place if not to raise the possibility and suspicion of recklessness. I know you don’t believe one event led to the other (mostly because the parents knew ahead of time that their baby was already positive for Down’s). But your partisan readers saw the red meat you fed them, and they devoured it — even as you carefully avoided using the words,
“Down Syndrome.”
September 1st, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Alan,
You’re right. Your post in no way said Palin’s water breaking was a contributing factor to her baby’s Down’s Syndrome. BUT it certainly implied as such — why else would you offer the original post in the first place if not to raise the possibility and suspicion of recklessness. I know you don’t believe one event led to the other (mostly because the parents knew ahead of time that their baby was already positive for Down’s). But your partisan readers saw the red meat you fed them, and they devoured it — even as you carefully avoided using the words,
“Down Syndrome.”
September 1st, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Alan,
I am a conservative and apologize for those who call themselves conservatives who attack without facts and act out of foolishness. I have watched & listened to you for years and appreciate your integrity. You know what you intended, we know & so do the ones who twist your intent. Give them time… They will find something else to attack. Rest assured there are those true conservatives out here who do appreciate you and are still praying for you to see the light. ;)
September 1st, 2008 at 10:16 pm
You sir are a disgrace. Fortunately, your previous post, which you tried to delete, has been preserved and your cowardly, self-serving post here is being exposed for the lie that it is. I have a feeling you will soon be losing your job at Fox and it can’t come too soon.
We are going to break you Alan. reap the whirlwind!
September 1st, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Mr. Colmes you have never been pregnant and have had doctors who think they are God tell you what is the “right” choice for you and what you should do and have the audacity to choose to go with your gut anyway! Doctors told my friend to ABORT her baby that he would not survive that the test showed he would have a major problem with his heart and she gave birth to a healthy beautiful baby! You want to allow a woman’s right to choose, but when Gov. Palin chose to go home to have her baby near her family and where it would be most comfortable you attack her?? My water broke over 6 hours away from home and my Dr. said it was perfectly fine to go to my home hospital. My child was born over 5 1/2 weeks prematurely and over 36 hours after my membranes ruptured! He is now over 6′8″ tall and in the top 10% of his class and healthy as a horse! Did you even stop to think that the Dr’s you interviewed are too afraid to be sued to let it be?? I guess I just was lucky to have amazingly faithful and strong Doctors! With baby #4 I chose to have my baby (Not with the same Dr BTW he had moved and retired by then, who I new would have a problem in a hosptial that CARED for me and my whole family and not the fancy bells and whistles Medical Center that made me feel like a number. MY CHOICE! You were not there – you are not Gov. Palin and her husband – sometime you have to have the faith to trust in God that it will be. It worked out for them! He is beautiful and a blessed loved member of the family. Wow – oh yee of little faith!Oh BTW – there is 14 years between my oldest and my youngest children and people have asked my son if that baby is his. I guess having 5 children is very rare no days! I would have NEVER thought that it was a cover-up! Gee wizz!
September 1st, 2008 at 10:31 pm
As a true conservative I am proud of the posts informing you of their displeasure with you. Real conservatives not democrats who claim to be are speaking their hearts and not apoligizeing to you for your dispicable opinions about Palin and Mc Cain who are a real heros. Not Obama who is corrupt puppet run by Soros and funded by orginized crime
September 1st, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Alan…at the very least you owe the Palin family an apology. I am TIRED of the HATE…TIRED of the lies…TIRED of the mud slinging but that’s all you PC liberal types do. You know you can’t win any election honestly so you LIE and CHEAT. NO more. We are all Americans! Come in out of the rain Alan before you drown!!!!!
September 1st, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Alan,
Looks like you alligator mouth overloaded your hummingbird ass, AGAIN!
September 1st, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Have you apologized to Gov. Palin yet, you ball-less wonder? I hope Fox suspends you without pay…you deserve to be fired!
Grow a pair and be a man, you horse’s ass. Do the world a favor and resign. I never thought I’d see a day when Don Imus was actually a good example of decency. Take a cue from him: Apologize or quit. Either way, grow some balls.
September 1st, 2008 at 10:37 pm
look at the democrats agenda. abort babies, raise taxes, teach homosexual life styles in schools. Homosexual marriage destry our milatary and make excuses for communists stealing freedom and their killing millions of people. Then Islamic terrorist beheadings. Least of all idiots and lame brains like you and Obama, Your mother sure raised a real winner. What a great reason to vote democrat
September 1st, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Alan, Alan, Alan
Never have too much whine before posting (pun intended) and I question your use of the post below, as a summation.
“Conservative hate was re-routed via conservative blogs!
Anyway, I love how everyone keeps trying to accuse Alan of accusing Princess Mooseburger of birthing a mentally retarded child on purpose.
He asked a judgement question about a 7 month pregnant woman who just had her water break GET ON A 12 HOUR FLIGHT TO GIVE BIRTH after giving a 30 MINUTE SPEECH instead of doing the SENSIBLE THING AND STAYING PUT WITH A DOCTOR.”
Alan, I think the outrage comes from the fact that you are pontificating about a woman’s birthing decisions. It is her body Alan, right? She was in contact with her physician throughout the entire ordeal, so who are you to question? I don’t see many complaints about the ridiculous post you reference, summarizing the issue which states, “birthing a mentally retarded child on purpose”. Nice Alan! Maybe a more thoughtful post could have been used to bolster your argument.
Using HotAir as the source of the hate about Obama is also absurd because they actually debunk ridiculous rumors, when they are, well, ridiculous. Clearly you dislike Michelle Malkin and her views because you have a myriad of other influential, male owned, conservative blogs at your disposal and many of those sites were going full barrel attacking your “insight” on birthing procedures. Hmmmm, thought to self…..Alan fears one of the most formidable female conservatives in the business. Very, very interesting and YES, the idea of latent sexism is implied by my comment, in case anyone was wondering.
Huffington and some on Daily Kos were discussing with vigor, the Governor’s son Trig and the daughter/baby switcharoo fiasco and many said the subject was out of line, but Kos kept it going and going, like the energizer bunny, despite evidence to the contrary, by their own members. I assume we can agree that the Daily Kos is a very powerful blog, read by many, so any mention by your supporters of right wingers trying to shut down free speech is preposterous!
Oh yea, I almost forgot, the poster that mentioned the Clintons will NOW vigorously campaign for Barack, is also delusional. The Clintons want to get back in the White House and campaigning for Obama will exclude them for eight more years. That scenario is not plausible and I would not condemn the Clintons for sitting this one out and chances are their efforts to get him elected will be halfhearted.
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:58 am
It’s all been said … and said well. You have greatly disappointed me with your idiot comment and then your cowardice in removing the post. Honesty, compassion and integrity are way more important than slavish left wing political posturing.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:08 am
You know, Nancy Palosi has 5 kids and 7 grandkids and nobody says a darn thing about where she was when she broke her water. She’s even allowed to shut down Congress before an energy vote while the nation is dying so she can promote her stupid book!
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:34 am
Nothing to see here, folks, move along…
Hee, hee! ;-D
Seriously, though, there is nothing I can add that hasn’t been said already.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:45 am
[...] Less that 24 hours later, Colmes followed his first comments with what he felt was a necessary explanation… [...]
September 2nd, 2008 at 7:55 am
Alan,
The problem for you is that you have too many facts in one article. the average (below the real average) conservative mind is confused by facts figures, logic and sense. Criticism of the holier-than-thou is the greatest of sins you can commit with this crowd. If Michelle Obama would have done the same thing, I’m sure they would talk about what a baby murderer she is. But since it is a mouse eating, bible thumping, redneck, well that’s just being a tough American.
September 2nd, 2008 at 9:56 am
Oops, I meant moose eating.
September 2nd, 2008 at 9:57 am
I love this hypocrisy. Is liberalism really that warped, twisted, and blinded by flawed judgement to post such a thing as this?: “Governor Palin made a very clear and very public questionable judgement call that endangered a seven month old fetus”
And, yet, if the method of ‘endangerment’ had been ABORTION, well.. that, my friends, is not to be questioned. It’s “her body, her choice”, right?!? Man, oh man. Can it GET any more twisted and sick?
max
September 2nd, 2008 at 11:07 am
So let me get this straight…..in your original comments about Gov Palin’s choice it was about the fact she consulted with her Doctor and had a normal delivery without complications… you are second guessing a good outcome?
Wow that is spin that even the Daily Kos would be proud of.
Alan……the only real fact known to the general public was that Trig was afflected with Downs Syndrome and you did not make any reference to the disease (you did not have to)
How do you sleep at night?
September 2nd, 2008 at 11:29 am
What scares me the most about these truly despicable posts by conservatives is that most of them probably have automatic rifles in their cars. As a father of three, I never would have allowed my wife to put herself and the baby at risk by boarding a jet AFTER her water had broke. Anybody who has gone through that knows that is a bad decision. Also, the 23rd chromosome was known after only 13 weeks of pregnancy, so anybody knows that what happens after than would have no impact on the outcome of the birth. Colmes never insinuates it, but the far right crazies immediately revert to pathetic bullying (ever so brave over a blog, well done!).
Palin will be off the ticket by end of September. The RNC machine will not go down like this – unless they are looking for a sacrificial lamb (paging Bob Dole?).
I can’t wait to see the intelligent responses to this post.
September 2nd, 2008 at 12:01 pm
I am not some wild-eyed right wing nut as you seem to imply in some of your blogs. I did find your original blog to be totally inappropriate, disgusting and vile. As are so many liberals you are a coward for taking it down and playing word games.
September 2nd, 2008 at 12:41 pm
It is becoming more and more apparent that Sarah Palin is a mentally unstable individual who puts her own ambition ahead of her family and her country. (her involvement with the Alaska First secession movement). And she is the one who dragged her poor teenaged daughter into this mess. Stand tall, Mr. Colmes, you were correct; something is very, very wrong with this woman and her judgement.
September 2nd, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Stand tall, Alan. Women should not even consider working outside the home or political life until they stop giving birth. Maybe they shouldn’t even be allowed to vote until this point because of all the hormones that may affect their judgment.
Well, Republican, conservative women anyway because liberal Democrats do not suffer from this and should not have such a restriction. We think more clearly than those poor hateful others. Liberal does mean we are open-minded, right?
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Alan – I mostly mute you when watching Hannity & …what was that last name ..oh yeah…cold bones Combs. I have a ton of democratic friends who are voting MCain…Not all are women crossing over. They know that Obama is not qualified to be leader of this nation. My God Alan are you that blind? You are such a disgrace to the intelligence of the Fox News Network. I would be kicking your bony butt out the door for waht you posted about Sarah Palin. By the way I play donkey basketball (Jackasses) I rode two different ones. One was named Obama and the other Cold Bones Combs…LOL! I never fell off either.
Marty from “True Grit” Tennessee
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Hey, why not boycott Fox News until Alan is gone !? Watch Keith instead !
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Regardless of whether or not you mentioned in your column about Mrs. Palin’s baby being a Downs baby, you obviously didn’t perform due diligence in writing the column. Downs is determined at the moment of conception. It’s an extra chromosome. Nothing she did during her pregnancy had a thing to do with that baby being born with Downs. I somehow expected more out of you! Just proved my theory that you don’t think things through. At least you had the decency to remove the column.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:46 pm
I feel sorry for this guy. He actually has something decent to say and the only people reading it are dumb conservatives.
September 2nd, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Alan,
Let’s look at Sarah’s judgment:
At age 44, she chooses to have a baby.
At age 44, she decides that leaking fluid is not a concern for alarm.
At age 44, she hops on a long plane flight while putting her unborn child at risk.
From some time, she preaches abstinence to everyone but her own daughter.
At age 44, she chooses to be a VP candidate instead of tending to her family in crisis.
I don’t question her judgment, I have determined she has NONE.
September 2nd, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Alan, you know exactly what you were trying to do. Trying to mimic your co-host Sean Hannity and draw conclusions about judgment. The only problem here is that we cannot deduce that Sarah is a crooked politician because of her actions related to the birth of her 5th child. We can however point to the many dealings Obama has had with people on a political or business level and make a decision that he does not have good judgment. For you to not see the difference just blows my mind. I rate this one a 10+ on the trashy scale. Lets get out of the gutter and talk issues, business associates, and political actions.
September 2nd, 2008 at 6:55 pm
You Liberals – it so obvious that you are all threatened by Mrs. Sara Palin. Envy does that. So sorry for you. LOL!
Yeah, McCain/Palin not Hussein!!
September 2nd, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Alan,
Worst of all is your cowardice in taking it down proving all your lies since the post. Why would you need to remove it if what you were saying was true?? You are so transparent. We who read the origional know how you made it crystal clear what you were refering to in your blog. You are a pitiful excuse. You can gain back the little respect i had in you if you humble yourself and appologize from your heart. Everyone deserves a second chance if they ask for it. God Bless Sarah Palin… it’s hard raising a handicapped child… she didn’t take the “easy” way out.
September 2nd, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Everyone already knows that Alan Colmes is just a shill for right wing politics. He plays the whiny little liberal so Hannity can look big and tough when Hannity inevitably hands Alan his ass. It’s punditry for show and all of you Foxites buy into this crap every night. It makes perfect sense that Alan Colmes would make such a ridiculous statement. He is SUPPOSED to make liberals look like vile baby-murdering secular monsters with no hearts. Don’t be roped in by this hokum. I am incredibly liberal and would never insinuate any of the things that this low-rent straight man did. It’s ludicrous. As a liberal, I am glad that you have all torn Alan a new one (except for the antisemitism; that’s just as grotesque as his initial comments). Also, however, don’t think this goofy turd represents us on the left. He is an act, that is all. Just like I understand that all conservatives don’t want to poison the earth or kill homosexuals. Let’s stop buying into this “your red, I’m blue” crap. We are all Americans, and this petty bickering that fox news propagates keeps us from actually talking about serious issues.
September 2nd, 2008 at 8:14 pm
I thought I would leave my email if anyone wants to develop a legitimate discussion about this or any other topics. knighttp75@yahoo.com
September 2nd, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Mr. Colmes,
I understand that you did not blame Sarah Palin for her prenatal lifestyle in her child being born with Down’s Syndrome. But shame on you for asserting that the governor and and her husband had “reckless stupidity” (your words, sir!) and that they had to be “completely familiar with all the things that can go wrong in a pregnancy.” I find your assumptions to be extremely arrogant, and you cherry-pick the facts at least as thoroughly as Sean Hannity. Your assertion that the Alaskan Independence Party was “her political home from 1994 to 1996″ is patently inaccurate, based on all available information. You sir, are a political operative, not a journalist!
September 2nd, 2008 at 9:40 pm
As a mother with four children, having labored naturally with midwives for all, I would like to offer Mr. Colmes some insight into what is and is not “poor judgement” in labor.
A woman who has had 4 children does know HER body and as a man, I cannot believe you would offer on opinion on whether a pregnant woman knows what is going on with her own body. Water breaking, leaking, etc. is looked at by OB/GYNs as a risk. This is false. It is only a risk to a woman who is in a hospital and has people sticking things inside her, introducing noncomedigenic germs, just to check a box on a chart and cover the hospital’s legal derriere.
Women have had their water break/leak and have remained in that state with proper hydration for as long as a week that I have read of. It is the introduction of things into the birth canal that cause alarm if a woman’s water breaks. End of story. It is not in any way, shape or form, “poor judgement” to not rush off to the hospital because someone’s water breaks. Until the masses began carrying health insurance after WWII, the majority of Americans were born at home, with broken waters and all. If there was some huge danger in not rushing to a hospital as soon as a woman’s water breaks, there would have been some astounding statistic showing a higher rate of infant mortality before hospitals. But this is not so.
As to not rushing to a hospital at the moment a woman feels contractions, again, I am astounded that as a man you believe you have a right to offer any sort of opinion on this topic.
Pregnant women experience braxton hicks contractions as early as 28 weeks or so. Women who have had more than one child might have more and will definitely have a better grasp of which sort mean something for HER body. It is interesting that those of the Liberal mindset who beat the drum of a women having choice over THEIR body, cannot respect a woman’s God-given ability to interpret the signals her own body give her in labor, especially when she has done it numerous times.
You have no place judging a woman in labor for her choices, nor pulling in ACOG cronies to proffer theirs. The US is 40th in world rankings on infant mortality – ACOG & its recommendations aren’t doing a very good job. Countries with midwifery model of care in which women’s bodies are looked at as not broken and in need of being rushed to a hospital have the best birth outcomes. Governer Palin has 5 living children. She obviously knows what she is doing.
September 2nd, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Allan you and your crybaby whinning liberals are a selfish hateful specimans of dung. Mc Cain is a real hero who fought and bleed for your right to be selfish. How many of you fought and bleed for your country. I have and Sara has supported this country and has a 80 percent approval rateing. That is more than all the democrat politicians combined. The communist party had a word for you selfish whinners. USEFULL IDIOTS. THANK GOD FOR THE 2 nd Amendmant. We need it to protect our selves from you liberals who would sell out your country and families for a song
September 2nd, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Sara Palin is a all american woman who loves people and bringing a good life for the people of Alaska and America. Obama and you liberals are so full of hate and selfishness. I have never met a loving person or a veteran who is liberal. just remember you will reap all the hate that you have sown. If you can not respect our milatary and thoese who served then go to Pakistan and meet your counter parts and be beheaded.
September 2nd, 2008 at 11:10 pm
I will vote and knock on every door for Mc Cain Palin. After listening to the liberal media I am no longer a democrat. The liberals who are for womwns rights are really for Lesbian rights. A real all american woman does not qualify. Obama is a closet homosexual and it will come out soon. That is why liberals hate christians and normal people. Goodbye Democrat party you have pushed your perverted lifestyles and perversion to far. Allan you need a life. Without Hannity you are a hopeless empty shell who is jealious od patriots and loveing people
September 2nd, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Other than that you are a member of the Faux “News” crew, I can find no fault with your article. What happened, happened and we all have a right because of circumstances to believe as we wish on the subject. It’s too bad that Governor Palin owns the God and Family soap box otherwise this situation would have never come up (at least publicly). Really Mr. Colmes can’t you find yourself a real job?
September 2nd, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Dance Liberal monkey, dance! Your fear of having to face a powerful ticket now that Gov. Palin is on board is palpable. You can try to “disappear” your original article Alan but that doesn’t work in the digital age. I’m actually looking forward to Nov. 4th now that Gov. Palin is going to be the one to steal your lunch money and send you, once again, running home crying to mommy.
P.S. You are a cretin also. That was necessary since all Conservatives can do is hurl insults.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:49 am
>>>Let’s look at Sarah’s judgment: At age 44, she chooses to have a baby….I don’t question her judgment, I have determined she has NONE.<<<
You have thus claimed to be anti-choice.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:06 am
Colmes is a jackass and an unattractive one at that. I feel sorry for Monica Crowley’s sister that she has to look at this dweeb. I wish she would hurray up and leave him since he hates women and children.
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Alan,
One has to wonder how Republicans have so much energy for all that hate. It would be wonderful if they would debate based on FACTS rather than lies. The emails full of hatred toward liberals that are forwarded to me routinely by Republican “friends” lead me to believe that the only true enemy I have is the Republican party and its mindless followers.
Keep on speaking the truth, Alan. We need your voice of reason and logic and facts.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Alan, I have been been watching your show for the past 6 months here in New Zealand – it’s the only American news we get. In spite of the fact that I find your co-host to be an uneducated knuckle-dragging hypocrite, I do appreciate the fact that you do have a semblance of balance on issues. However, I cannot for the life of me understand why you would tolerate the vile and disgusting comments hurled at you by Malkin and others. There has got to be some journalistic integrity on Fox. Demand some civility from your cohorts!
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:32 pm
I wish more people lived by the tenet, Judge not lest ye be judged. We would live in a much more peaceful world. Other people are allowed to have different opinions than you. That is what make this world great. When people start spewing hate because of another opinion, they only show their lack of an ability to hold an intelligent discussion.
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Hi Sherrill!
Its not hate spewing from the right, its disgust. The hate is coming from the left, thank you very much.
If Alan cared a wit about “FACTS”, he would have done a bit of research before questioning Gov. Palin’s decision. As it turns out, Gov. Palin and her doctor are now being second guessed by Alan and all of you. If one of you can claim to be Gov. Palin’s Ob/Gyn, then you might have some grounds for making these statements, otherwise you are talking out of your depth.
Sarah Palin made a decision with her doctor, she has the experience of 4 other births to support her. Are you now claiming that she doesn’t have the right to make that decision or to privacy? You do know that Roe vs. Wade hinges upon that, right?
As for mindlessly following, you’ll have to do some self examination there as well, it seems that Obama is the one with the mindless followers, otherwise they could expound upon his credentials, experience and policies. But, they can’t.
There is a difference between hatred and disgust. We are disgusted that the left/liberals would go to such lengths to destroy someone’s family simple because of a difference in political views. Your party leader has stated that the family is off limits, but did the left listen? No. Senator Obama has a “Fight the Smears” campaign, but who was doing the smearing? The left.
Look in the mirror, you’ll find all the hatred that you are seeking.
Keeping speaking the rumors Alan, you’ll endear the center and the right even more strongly to Gov. Palin and Obama will lose the election this November. The ugly face (no insult intended to your looks Mr. Colmes, that is terrible tactic and I for one do not support those that have used it) of the left has become apparent to mainstream Americans, thank you.
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Damn! So much ignorance and vitriol in so little space. It makes one’s head spin.
As a member of ACOG, I find Mrs. Palin’s actions incomprehensible. Most OB/GYNs recommend that their patients not travel after 36 weeks becaue of the risk of going into labor away from home. (Yes, I realize that Palin went into labor prematurely, so travel restrictions don’t come into play.)
If one of my patients called me with the same story, I would have recommended that she go to the nearest hospital to be assessed. If she had indeed ruptured membranes (and no, we don’t manage “leak” vs. “broken” differently–medically it’s the same thing), I would have recommended that she stay put.
Travel is risky in this situation, especially with a premature infant. Labor can start suddenly and progress rapidly in a preterm pregnancy. There can easily be a malpresentation–many premature infants can present as breech or transverse (which often requires a cesarian section) or can prolapse an umbilical cord, which is a medical emergency (and can result in the death of the baby if not immediately dealt with).
Additionally, there is the risk of infection. The longer membranes are ruptured, the higher it is. Also, when there is premature rupture of the membranes, infection can even be the cause.
Airliners and airports are not hospitals. They are not prepared for these sorts of emergencies. If she was indeed in early labor with rupture of membranes, she put her baby at risk.
The fact that things turned out OK does not validate her decisions. It was luck, pure and simple. You can’t count on luck.
And Down’s babies are at additional risk because of birth defects that are sometimes associated with the syndrome (heart, usually). I assume that Palin received adequate prenatal care and that these were ruled out.
And Annette–Down’s is a trisomy 21. Not 13. That one is pretty much uniformly lethal.
Ato America’ low ranking (40th?) for perinatal outcomes–this is due in large part to the lack of universal coverage and inadequate premnatal care. We have third world statistics in part because we have a third world system of medical insurance.
It should be noted that perinatal neonatal mortality rates (birth to 28 days) have decline greatly since 1940 (from app 30 to app 7 per 1000 live births). This coincides with the “medicalization” of pregnancy and hospital births.
Also maternal mortality has decreased with hospital deliveries. In 1900 is was 1 per 100 births; it is now about 11 per 100,000 births. Modern medicine has made a difference for many women……
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:05 pm
These compassionate conservatives seem to have lost their compassion over the last 8 years. Not only do I question who actually had the child,(Bristol or Mrs. Palin), I want to see the birth certificate for Trig and McCain.
Why do Republicans seem to have all the dysfunctional families? Bush with two drunk daughters who share his closet hobbys, McCain’s abandoning their children for greed of office, and now Palin wants to abandon her children and the baby to be the VP of a country she want to annex herself from. I find it interesting that Bristol is the only one breast feed Trig. Whats with that?
How crazy are these people? Watch Fox News and you will find out!!
September 4th, 2008 at 2:34 am
“The fact that things turned out OK does not validate her decisions. It was luck, pure and simple. You can’t count on luck.” -OB/GYN
You’re what we call a ‘non-believer’, try a lil’ faith in the One that created you dear doctor…Jeremiah 1:5
September 4th, 2008 at 6:10 am
In ALL things, she AND McCain have shown nothing but the WORST judgment.
September 4th, 2008 at 6:41 am
You are so wrong on many levels here.
“Down Syndrome is another matter, and can sometimes be related to a mother’s age. This is a risk that older parents take, and one the Palins took consciously, and not irresponsibly.”
I was 23 when my son was born with Down syndrome. And people it is Down syndrome, not Downs syndrome. Use people first language too please. This is not a Down syndrome baby, this is a baby with Down syndrome.
Here are the odds of having a baby with Down Syndrome:
Women under age 23?1 in 2,000 births
Women at age 30?1 in 1,300 births
Women at age 35?1 in 400 births
Women at age 40?1 in 90 births
Women at age 45?1 in 32 births
Women at age 50?1 in 8 births
the largest percentage of mothers who have children wtih DS are in their 20’s. Obviously, those numbers are skewed by the fact that women are less likely to have babies as they get older but the percentages are still what they are.
September 4th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Allan you and the liberals always judge and condemn others when you are the most miserable negative jerks this earth had to sustain. Please go to the middle eastern countries with your elitist liberal ideas and be promptly beheaded.
September 5th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Oprah is a racist. If a white host endorsed a white politician and then refused a black one. She would be screaming racist. Oprah knoes Sara Palin can walk circles around Obama .
Oprah is a hypocrit and she has been exposed
September 5th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Jasemin:
As a black woman I am offended and embarassed by Obama and the democrat party for attacking a fine classy woman and mother. Sara is an example for all women to strive and achieve. I was a lifelong democrat activist and contributor as of last week. Now I see Obama as a bableing do nothing idiot who only attacks womwn through his flunkies and pretends the high ground. I have always felt he is to feminine for me. McCain is a real man and hero who believes in womens rights. Sara is a great moral light and example for me and my five dauhters. Everyone I spoke to here in Watts are excited about Sara and offended by the disgusting lesbian homosexual infested democrat party.
September 7th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Obama has been nothing but decent to Sarah Palin.
September 7th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
I have NEVER heard an actual Democrat use the word “Democrat” party, but the whole post reeks of a far, far right winger posing as a Democrat.
I’m sure Obama supporters are REALLY scared now!
September 7th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
I second that OldLefty. I smell a rat.
September 7th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
I hve been a democrat for 52 years and still am a democrat. We have always used democrat party. We are not the socialist party that the new crop have tried to make it we are the party of FDR Kennedy Truman. Wake up it is the democrat party. These people have legit concern about what is coming out of our beloved party. It is turning into the gay socialist fringe anti milatary party
September 7th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Anita,
It’s probably that guy who called the show the other night claiming to be a Democrat, then spewing right wing talking points, then posted that he got Alan to ADMIT tha McCain loves his country.
He was a complete fraud.
Oh well, See ya later alligaters!
September 7th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
One last thing…
Newt Gingrich focused the words, and found that “Democrat” party sounded negative while “Democratic” had a positive connotation.
Everyone was instructed to ALWAYS use the word “Democrat party”, along with, liberal media, unpatriotic, etc.
In other words, sheer propaganda!
To me, it sounds like Archie Bunker saying ,”groinocologist”, or the “bus suppository”.
September 7th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Why do you keep attacking Sara? And not Obama and the party misstreatment of a sister. As a black women and a democrat that left the party last week I am sick and tired of the hate and lies beeing spewed out of the party. It shows outright blatant sexisium and a vicious assault on a mother of 5 children who showed the world us sisters can do it! Without a bunch of keep them on the reservation socialist liberal garbage that I was brainwashed into following for 28 years. We sisters are finaly free at last
September 7th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
I agree with Jasemin they are attacking anyone who disagrees with the party line. they are right out of Karl Marx’s book
If you cant fight the message attack the messanger. I agree the party has been taken over by lunatic socialist gays women haters. yes free at last good by Obama you chauvinist sexist pig
September 7th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Nobody mistreated ANY “sister”
No one believes you were EVER a Democrat.
You sound 100% like a far, right wing Republican.
September 7th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
old Lefty
You are still attacking the messanger. They attacked a 17 year old girl. They accused and printed lies about baby and affairs. Then called her a nazi. Then called her a mayor of a small town instead of the Governor of the largest state. Besides you need to take your meds and get off the rservation and see the truth. Apparently you have not lived through a real Democrat Presaident like Roosevelt Truman Kennedy. You would call them right wing fanatics. Grow up boy and act like a real man.
September 7th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
It is like the good ol boy network keeping the women down and not able to think or do anything on their own. Women should be seen obident and not heard mentality. We are tired of being pimped out for the vote. That is why I and my 3 daughters and my twin sister’s girls will vote for the very first time for a Republican Sara Palin The leader of women rights for the future. The good ol boys did not want Hilliary but another white man.
September 7th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
No one has attacked a 17 year old girl.
This is CLASSIC Republican prevarication.
It IS fair game to attack the hypocrisy of someone who rejects abstinence based education in favor of abstinence only when it clearly doesn’t work.
It is also fair game to attack the woman who slashed funds for homes for pregnant teens who are NOT as fotrtunate as hers.
Are we now to believe that teen, high school pregnancy is desirable IF the teen is wealthy?
Those on the right WISH that the left attacked her daughter as they know they would have done if Chelsea or one of Obama’s daughters was 17 and pregnant.
Remember it was Fox who called Michelle “Barack’s “baby momma”.
NOBODY thinks this has ANYTHING to do with women, because McCain has been the MOST disrepectful of women.
September 7th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
You are judged by the company you keep. Looking at Obama and Biden you see Tony Rizo who is convicted in jail, William Ayers the bomber, Rev. Wright and Farakahn the racist. The liberal media who slanders an all American woman Sara Palin and her 17 year old daughter. Then attacks her qualifications which means they are attacking all women. Obama can’t speak with out a teleprompter which means someone else is telling him what to say. Sara Palin has an 80 percent approval rating by hundred of thousands who put their stamp of approval on her. Now the entire country approves of her. The Democrat party has been taken over by socialists and the insane. Their idea of a qualified woman is a hard core lesbian! The Bible sums it up They are evil haters of God and despisers good.
September 7th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Old Lefty
You are showing your white racist women hateing views.
You are a racist and think black women are stupid with your long drawn out vicious childish mentality. I guess this happened when they voted in driver voting registration bill. All we got in our party were a bunch of drive by racist hate filled nuts
You need to go to the gym and be around real men instead of being a girly boy. You sound like you been raised in a rich family with no common sense and a feminine father. Keep up the attack instead of answering the facts. People can see you are a fool by your long rants. Black Power for us sisters is to join together and support thoese who believe work to strengthen our cause Instead of talking about it for 40 years and then dumping Hilliary.
September 7th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Magesstic,
Get back to me when you care as much about Bush and Salem and Safig bin Ladin, and all of his business dealings REAL terrorists, and McCain and the Keating five and HIS nefarious lobbyists, and dumping his family.
Tyrishia,
I think you are a big phony.
September 7th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Old Lefty
Your Momma raised a very disrespectful fool. Thank God We are free of the Plantation party and all the name calling fools that never have a answer for what they are going to do. All these years and we the black Afro Americans are still in povery crime, drugs and one parent families. It is time and should have happened a long time ago with this leadership of the DNC. We started a new group of as of this afternoon 224 members Compton sisters free at last to vote for Sister Palin. What has the DNC done for us but put us on their plantation of hopeless destruction. Brothers and sisters awake and see who you are beholden to. It is time for a change from a party of racist old lefty. We are free to live our dreams thank you sister Sara Palin
September 7th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Magesstic,
You abhor name calling (we are free of… all the name calling fools…)
yet you call Oldlefty a fool, and a racist.
You say “The Democrat party has been taken over by socialists and the insane.”
Hmmm… Maybe you should google ‘Pot called kettle’
September 7th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
You’re kidding, right?
September 7th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
I mean :
“The good ol boys did not want Hilliary but another white man.”
You’re kidding, right?
September 7th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Methinks we have some pretenders here.
September 7th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Ah, yes. That ol’ “You can’t see me anyway, so could just be anyone” thing, huh? How juvenile.
September 7th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Sara Palin is a fresh light and hope for many of us. After supporting the democrat party all these years what do we have? Crime drugs single mothers, worst schools in the nation and a 75 percent drop out rate. I know this upsets many yuppie liberals who want us to stay on the democrat reservation. We are tired of being used and abused. We want a future for our children. Many Afro Americans woman and men in our churchs and communities are voteing for our chidrens future, We are supporting and voteing for Sara Palin she understands the heart of a mother and her childrens future.
September 8th, 2008 at 11:58 am
Likesha
you have inspired me and my husband to open our eyes and see the truth. Deep in our hearts we felt their had to be something better than what we were supporting. You are right after listening to Sara Palin
We are going to support her. She has given us vision for us and our children. the DNC has let us down.
Thank You again
September 8th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Likesha,
How exactly are:
Crime, drugs, and single mothers the fault of Democrats?
September 8th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
cnn says palin asked for more earmarks per capita than any other governor. she even hired a consultant to help the state get earmarks.
September 8th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
single mothers? like palin’s daughter.
September 8th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
The American people can see the difference Obama who is a feminine east coast liberal elite. John McCain is a mans man who will lead us as a self confident commander in chief who has proven himself. Obama only proves he can not speak with out a teleprompter. That means it IS someone else who is putting out a false deceptive message THROUGH HIM! VOTERS BEWARE HE HAS A EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND WITH TERRORIST COMMUNIST SOCIALIST AND RACIST. Besides he is very flakey. I salute John McCain and Sara Palin who do pledge alliagence to our flag.
September 9th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Samson,
re:
VOTERS BEWARE HE HAS A EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND WITH TERRORIST COMMUNIST SOCIALIST AND RACIST.
What is this background you speak of? What are you talking about? He is a U.S. Senator, I find it hard to believe that someone with that kind of background would have been elected a senator, and then the Democratic presidential nominee, but maybe it slipped by a bunch of people. Could you please explain what you are talking about?
September 9th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Samson,
If you are so into “manly men”, you must love the chickenhawks in the Republican party who never served in Iraq, but don’t mind women losing life and limb for them.
You REALLY must have loved W Bush as he was a cheerleader in school.
And Sarah Palin’s husband belongs to , and she adresses the convention of the Alaskan Independence party. Their
leader said:
“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” …
“The fires of Hell are glaciers compared to my hate for the American government.”
But then Republican don’t seem to have much love for America unless they are looting the treasury, and waving made in China flags.
By the way, Jesus was a community organizer, and Pontius Pilate was a governor.
September 9th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Oh my… I love Sarah Palin already! Oh, but she’s not a ‘maverick’ who can shake things up and get ‘Change’ to occur, right? No. Obama says she’s inexperienced but cool. Look at her go!! Yay! for Sarah, her BEAUTIFUL family, unborn babies, and the US of A!!!!
September 9th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Yay! for Sarah, her BEAUTIFUL family, unborn babies,
Posted by Burlison
September 9th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Yes, Yay! for Sarah…cutting the funds, for famiies like hers, but less fortunate.
I guess SOME life is more valuable than other life.
September 9th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Oldlefty,
Right on… To me, that is the one way in which it is appropriate to bring up that part of her family life. Her daughter is incredibly fortunate to have a supportive family, how about all those girls not so lucky, with little/no options, but still want to keep their babies.
Palin cut funding for them. Party of family values indeed.
September 9th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
All life is valuable! Volunteer…. donate YOUR time and money, reach out to those girls who want to keep their babies, jump behind services like the Pregnancy Resource Center, BirthRIGHT, Food Pantries, and our local churches! Don’t sit back and blame the government to take care of us and our weaker brothers and sisters when we can help too! Sarah Palin is a motivator and can promote change but not by herself!!!! I’m willing to help, are you?
September 9th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Burlison,
You mean like community organizers?
Sarah Palin is of the “I got mine, the hell everybody else” ilk.
September 9th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Old Lefty
You are a blow hard who does not read the facts. All the accusations you made against Palin are documented bogus check fact checker. . The left wing has to lie and make vicious slander because you have nothing. You hate the military because you can not stand to see people who are not selfish. You are spoiled and can not see past your nose. You hate a woman and obviously you are or have deep homo sexual thoughts. Sara loves children and loves church. Loves people Because she is a giver. You left wing are takers and complainers who won’t do anything but complain.You are girly boys who cant even fight your way out of a paper bag. If brains were dynamite you would not have enough to blow your big nose. By the way I am A US Marine who has fought in the war and will fight again.
September 9th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Sampson,
Welcome back, can you respond to my earlier question? I am genuinely interested in your response. It’s just a few posts up.
September 9th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
I personaly met sarah Palin and she is the most unslfish loveing person I have ever met. You are listening to complete lies from very deserate people who could not even wear her shoes. With all your disgusting democrat talking points based on a foundation of lies. Sara still has a 80 percent approval rateing by intellegant people here in Alaska. Your democratic party is nothing but a cheap lies and deceit. You embrase communist and dictators then hate good leaders. Just keep following them. The Blind leading the blind. Misery invites company. Old Lefty your big mouth will get you in trouble people will see you are a miserable insignificant nothing.
September 9th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Hi Lynn,
When you say of Democrats:
You embrase communist and dictators then hate good leaders.
What do you mean? Which communists and which dictator are embraced by Democrats, and which good leaders do they ‘hate’
September 9th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
Hey Lynn,
A hard core liberal democrat friend of mine forwarded that ’schedule’ to me a couple weeks ago – I too thought it was pretty funny. Extreme parody can be pretty entertaining.
September 9th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
The Obama campaign and DNC, curiously, have already launched all out attacks against the choice and Palin herself, indicating that she does not have enough executive or national experience.
Excuse me? She does not have enough executive experience?
A simple analysis of the relative experience levels of Sarah Palin compared to either Democratic candidate puts this to rest. For over the past decade, Sarah Palin has been involved in executive decision making at increasing levels of elected positions of public trust. Obama has no executive experience, Biden has no executive experience. During that time, Palin left off running an actual private business in Alaska, a commercial fishing business and was elected to her city council and then, in quick order to be Mayor of her home town. She did so well there that she was ultimately elected to be Governor of the State of Alaska, managing 17,000 personnel and a 9 billion dollar budget. Obama and Biden have absolutely no comparable experience at all, neither of them.
September 9th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
The truth is coming out, use your energy to help positively motivate the McCain/Palin ticket. Don’t be distracted by the lies and trash talk that is used to keep us busy in these types of ways… it’s just to distract us from our real work that is needed. Even the media has accepted the accusation of trying to elect Obama and is now trying to appear neutral… Obama went from a man with the appearance of ‘charisma and appeal’ to his real character ’sad and desperate’ when the going got tough and when it was not about him anymore. It should always be about America and her citizens.
September 10th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
I have been following Obama, I wanted to find out if he would be the one for me?
The more I know about him and take time to go and see him the more I know he is not the one! I did not like the PIG thing, nor the way he thinks of him self.
The way he looks at us all just as we are morons, that we will go on with him with no mind of our own.
I know I am going with McCain and Palin.
September 10th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
I agree… There seems to be a sense of ‘everything I do is right’ and if you don’t agree with him he seems to communicate that it’s because you are stupid, racist, or incapable of understanding.
September 10th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
42.Kazi Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 1:47 PM
I live in Illinois and I can tell that Obama as President is a scary thought for most of us. He has done little to nothing for the people of Illinois. This “change” he is always talking about he hasn’t demonstrated in his own state so I can’t see him changing the country or the world. Matt Damon and the rest need to really delve a little deeper into the actual achievments of people running for office instead of just going by dem, rep or male/female. Sarah Palin has done more for her super small town and state than Obama wishes he had done for his. Matt Damon movies are off the must see list. How ignorant. Who is to say he will be around in the next four years either (John McCain won’t survive his first term in office?) What, does he and Oprah have a coup planned?
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September 10th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
You have put down Sarah Palin in every way you could but what do you know about childbirth? You can offer your liberal opinion on political issues but her childbirth? You’re not a decent human being, let alone a gentleman.
As a woman, I could see a lot of reasons why she made the choices she made. She knew this child has Down Syn, therefore she would prefer to deal with this birth by her own OB at her own hospital, surrounded by her loved ones. There are a multitude of emotions that a woman in her situation has to deal with on top of the regular emotions that everybody else goes through.
Why should I bother to tell you all this? It’s a waste of time, you don’t care about her because she dares to not agreeing with the liberals.
May God bless you and your wife so you will not have to have a special need child. God knows you can’t handle it and will whine the rest of your life.
September 17th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
How disgusting…is that how you explain all of the other down syndrome babies born into the world. You think that one person has them because of choices they make during pregnancy and others have them because….you obviously have an agenda and decided to use this to further that agenda. You…not Sarah Palin…are disgusting.
September 19th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Colmes, you are a vile arrogant excuse for a human being. Your comment about Sarah Palin’s pre-natal care was one of your usual flippant poor attempts at attacking a conservative for no other reason than the fact that she is a conservative. You think you are being cute with your little jabs but this one really shows your insensitive attitude against anyone you disagree with. It is also an example of liberal “tolerance” where liberals tolerate anyone as long as they don’t disagree with their liberal views. You think you are one of the beautiful people because of your lofty smug liberal ideals. I am one of those nuts on the right you so often comment about but I can tell you that we have more feelings for people than the likes of you. I recently sent a note to Ted Kennedy when I found that he was ill with cancer. I can’t think of an issue that he and I would agree on and I think his political views are dangerous. I do however have compassion for him and his family and could only offer my good will and prayers. As much as I disagree with this man I could never make such a comparable vile comment about him as you did about Palin. Even as disgusting as I think you are, this intolerant conservative can only wish you well in the future and hope you never have to suffer the terrible affliction of illness or experience the joys and anguish of having a physically or mentally child born into your family.
October 3rd, 2008 at 11:33 am
Alan–grow a uterus first, then you can talk. Good riddance.
November 26th, 2008 at 2:46 am