Sarah Palin: Pragamatist Or Ideologue?
Sarah Palin used the power of the pen and the line item veto to slash funding that would have provided needy teen mothers with a place to live.
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin wrote in her line-item veto changes by hand in this copy of a 2008 spending bill obtained by The Washington Post.
When word came out about her own teenage daughter being five months pregnant, this statement was released by the McCain campaign:
“Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family,” Palin said in a statement released by the McCain campaign. “We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi’s privacy, as has always been the tradition of children of candidates.”
John McCain, when asked whether he supports programs that instruct teens about contraception to prevent pregnancy, or if he preferred President Bush’s abstincence poicy, said, “Ahhh, I think I support the president’s policy.”
In other Palin news, when she first became the mayor of Wasilla, she approached the town librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, about banning some books that she found morally or socially offensive. Palin also brought up this idea at a city council meeting. Emmons was soon fired, but was reinstated after a show of community support. Palin claimed to the local press that talk of censorship was “rhetorical.” And when her stepmther-in-law, Fay Palin, ran to succeed her, Plain supported her opponent, Dianne M. Keller, a religious conservtive, because Fay Palin was a pro-choice independent.
It’s a little hard to read the image file.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:19 am
Hey, incase you haven’t noticed yet, the caller from Alaska left a comment on your Teusday show thread. Well, a person claiming to be him. I see no reason to not believe it’s the same guy. But you never know.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 am
*Tuesday
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:25 am
Has this link already been posted here? Think it’s great. http://media.tumblr.com/xVuNrPlHddez0na0oaiDpi2H_400.png
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:38 am
A friend of mine sent these numbers in an email, and they seem to put things in perspective…
The population of Wasilla, the town in Alaska where Sarah Palin was
> mayor, is 8,471.
>
> Alaska, where Ms Palin has been governor for a year and a half, has
> about 670,000 inhabitants.
>
> One of my favorite boroughs, The Bronx, currently has a population
> of 1,356,000.
>
> So this woman, who could be one heartbeat away from being the most
> powerful person on the planet, has eighteen months experience governing
> about half of the Bronx!
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:52 am
Alan, you are a retarded liberal. Go get a job at a diner or learn to fix lawn mower engines.
Your “journalism” is lacking in professionalism and your goofy grin makes me want to puke.
See ya!
Bob
P.S. Obama will lose in November, guaranteed.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:58 am
Bob P, what a wonderful American you are, to offer such constructive criticism design to improve American society.
Did you just turn 18? Will this be your first election where you get to express your hatred through voting? You must be so excited!
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Alan – Thank you for this great post. It shows that Palin lives her life according to her principles…this is the kind of leadership this country needs. Not more speeches and empty promises of change and hope from the political elite. This country needs to understand that we can’t look to the government to solve our problems and we have to be responsible and accountable for our actions. PALIN FOR PRESIDENT!!!!
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Alan,
Thank you for this post!
It shows that for Sarah palin, life is more valuable for SOME than for others.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:23 pm
This is laughable Alan. Pragmatism cuts both way. Are you sure you aren’t working for the Republicans?
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Comrade Colmes,
We must work on disseminating the following new information on that disgusting Ms. Palin which has just come to light….
Dateline, September 3, 2008, New Palin Scandles Detailed….
“There is solid evidence that Sarah Palin may have been fully naked (aka nude) at certain times during her term as Governor, may have worn scandalous lingerie at other points, and may have even engaged in wild sex acts in private that would be positively scandalous in public. Although the full details are still unavailable, it’s come to light that Sarah Palin repeatedly exploited a blue-collar Eskimo worker for her own private amusement in the bedroom, and that she had sex with him on at least four separate occasions. It’s also well-known in Alaska that Sarah Palin got pregnant by a young snowmobile racer (see photo at right). (The snowmobiler openly admits he is the father of Palin’s child. Palin claims her husband “Todd” is the father.)
The allegations don’t stop there. In the course of our investigations, we have uncovered that there are very credible allegations of topless dancing, moose-tipping, mooning, miscegenation, murder, Mormonism, racketeering, racism, favoritism, flatulence, “Fairbanks hot plates,” goobery, global warming, oral sex, orgies, onanism, Catholicism, conspiracy, carbon emissions, corruption, cronyism, cover-ups, climate change, cohabitation, cornhole, usury, short-sheeting, smuggling, satan worship, Santaria (aka “voodoo”), infidelity, whistle-blowing, animal sex (including bestiality), astigmatism, abortion, prostitution, polyamory, peeing in the snow, papism, pornographic (aka “porn” or “sex”) videos, embezzlement, bribery, battery, barratry, bigotry, buggery, backroom dealing, nepotism, nihilism, nudity, dildos, and various gay / lesbian activity (i.e., sodomy) taking place in Alaska, the very state Sarah Palin promised to clean up.
There are credible claims that Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, Angelina Jolie and Pat Buchanan have each visited Sarah Palin’s state on at least one occasion—and engaged in who knows what sort of illicit and/or racist behavior while they were there. The Pat Buchanan allegations are particularly disturbing, owing to the fact that the Alaska governor had full knowledge of Buchanan’s travel plans and allowed Buchanan safe passage into and out of Alaska without even detaining or questioning him. Some claim that Buchanan was even granted “protection” by Alaska state police and local law enforcement. If any state or local law enforcement officials made any formal requests for authorization to capture or kill Pat Buchanan, such requests fell on deaf ears, and were very likely suppressed at the very highest levels of government. Was this the real reason Michael Wooten and Walter Monegan fell out of favor with the Ice Queen? Were they threatening to blow the whistle? I suspect this is just the tip of the iceberg.”
Comrades, we must put a stop to this woman before she destroys what little we have left of Americas morals and we must stop her NOW!
Kommander Poopster
Socialist Baby Killer Party of AmeriKKKa
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:48 pm
what some left wing liberals still don’t seem to understand is that its not the job of the government to raise kids…you want your kid to have sex and condoms? go by them for your own kids. the school system with all ifs wonderful pro-sex ed classes doesn’t seem to be all that effective at prevented teenage pregnancies when you start looking at statistics. not to mention alan…dig a little deeper, look at the figures for more than just 2008 and you’ll realize the program for which palin cut funding was overinflated compared to recent years…she was simply doing what shes praised for…cutting bureaucratic fat. stay classy libs.
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Joe S., please don’t be an idiot. If the government can’t solve our problems, then why does corporate America depend on it for its welfare?
This is a great post, Alan. It shows several things:
1) Palin is all about Life, except when it comes to providing shelter for teen mothers whose states require them to choose Life. (More, “You can’t abort your kid, but we’re not going to help you either. You made the MISTAKE, you’ll have to live with it! This kid’s your punishment!”)
2) She is completely and willfully BLIND to the dismal failure of abstinence “education.”
3) She’s a micromanaging leader whose ambition has blinded her integrity.
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Oh, and Joe? Mayor Sarah Palin went to Washington to beg for ALL KINDS OF EARMARKS:
“Ms. Palin also began annual trips to Washington to lobby for federal money for specific initiatives, including rail projects and a mental health center.”
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Hey Alan:
Why isn’t you’re boy Hannity talking about Sarah Palin’s Pastor? He doesn’t seem to be too fond of America.
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Alan, Alan, Alan, get your facts straight. Could it be that the allocation was 3.9 million than in previous years. Wow to go from 0 to 3.9 million in one year is outstanding. You and WaPo might like to second guess but you ought to tell the entire story.
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Interesting,
So we have a book banning, radical anti-abortionist, who does not believe in helping young pregnant women not so fortunate as her daughter to have a supporting family, who puts party above family, and yet if we criticize her we are accused of picking on her because her daughter is pregnant. It should be an interesting couple of months.
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Alan, YOU DISGUST ME. FOX NEWS SHOULD FIRE YOU NOW. NOT YESTERDAY, NOT TOMORROW. YOU CAN’T SPEAK THE TRUTH IF IT WAS STARRING YOU IN THE FACE. NEVER CAN YOU GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT, YOU’RE RUDE, RUDE, RUDE TO EVERYONE THAT COMES ON HANNITY’S SHOW. Yes, I said “Hannity’s Show” cuz we tune you OUT, we can’t stand to listen to you or look at your face one more day!!!! You left wing liberals are out to ruin America….NOT A CHANCE OF THAT EVER HAPPENING!
BTW Alan….do have a nice day……LOL!
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Sarah –
Who’s an idiot? You really believe that cutting taxes on corporations is equivalent to welfare? Please save your liberal tirades and go back and read some very simple economics textbooks. Frankly, its amazing that corporate America survives in light of the taxation burden placed on it by the left wing.
Also, please recheck your facts on abortion. No state can make anyone choose life. You may want to re-read Roe v. Wade.
Based on what I’ve seen so far, Palin has more integrity than McCain, Obama, and Biden combined.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:00 pm
You know I’ve read quite a bit of ‘concerns’ (yeah, right) from Palin’s detractors about how she might have contributed to the results of having a child with Down Syndrome due to her lifestyle…
Funny, but how come no liberals/media have asked Obama why he subjects his own children to the dangers of second hand smoke? Did he smoke around his wife while she was pregnant?
:-)
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:02 pm
HEY FOLKS.. HOW DO YOU LIKE THE UNITY OF THE PROGRESSIVES
THIS IS THE CHANGE BARRY WILL BRING US
ALL WILL BOW.
ALL THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT THE COMING COLLECTIVIST STATE WILL BE DESTROYED
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:03 pm
OBAMA: Stealth Marxist or Islamic Terrorist Sympathizer?
OBAMA AND DOMESTIC TERRORIST AYERS FUNNELED MONEY TO JEREMIAH WRIGHT CHURCH AND ARAB AMERICAN ACTION NETWORK – NRO —
The relationship between Barack Obama and unrepentant terrorist William Ayers appears to be even more involved than we already knew. Papers just released by the University of Illinois-Chicago, after much public pressure, show that Obama and Ayers collaborated as members of the board of the Woods Fund to funnel money to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ and the Arab American Action Network – founded by Rashid Khaldidi who supported Yassir Arafat and the Palestinians against Israel.
In fact, by 1997 Obama and Ayers were collaborators on a far more significant level. They sat together for several years on the board of the Woods Fund, a left-wing Chicago charitable organization. There, they doled out tens of thousands of dollars to such beneficiaries as the Trinity Church (where Obama was a longtime member and where another Obama mentor, Jeremiah Wright, preached a radical, anti-American brand of Black Liberation Theology) and the Arab American Action Network (co-founded by Rashid Khalidi, a Yasser Arafat apologist who has supported attacks against Israel and now directs Columbia University’s notorious Middle East Institute, founded by Edward Said).
National Review Online has an extensive article on this relationship. They are just beginning to review the papers released. I feel certain there will be much more about this radical relationship come to the surface.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Spence,
I have heard nothing of the sort – other than the biological fact that older women are more prone to birthing babies with Down Syndrome.
Could you please point to anything referring to her lifestyle contributing to this? I, for one, certainly condemn anyone making such statements.
There are plenty of legitimate things to criticize her for (see my above post, for example) without stepping into that gutter (as you did with your second hand smoke comments – though I am not sure what problems his children have that you are hinting at)
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:11 pm
>>> The population of Wasilla, the town in Alaska where Sarah Palin was mayor, is 8,471. <<<
Uh, why do Conservatives continue to exaggerate the population of Wasilla. The Wasilla official web site states that the population is 6,715. Even still, none of this matters as the population during the time when Palin was mayor was only around 5,000 based on official US census figures. The GOP intentional inflating of her scope of power is nothing but deceitful.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Joe, if you’ll re-read, I was asking YOU not to be an idiot.
Incidentally, I encourage you to Google “corporate welfare” to get a more complete picture of the so-called “free enterprise” system and how it’s buoyed by our tax dollars. It involves more than cutting taxes (taxes that would, incidentally, be used to pay for a variety of goods and services that benefit business directly– roads, rail, bridges, postal system).
Yes, at the current time, no state can make anyone choose life. Palin is, however, AGAINST abortion (including in cases of rape, incest, or endangerment of mother’s life). If she and the other Repubs had their way, abortion would be consigned to back alleys again. Then again, it might have been easier for her daughter to get one.
I’m not so sure I understand why Palin has more integrity than these other national figures, but whatever. All I see is a born-again pseudo-Christian who wants to dictate what others do and don’t do, read and don’t read, teach and don’t teach, etc.
That’s not American, to me.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:29 pm
It is disingenuous to speak of Palin’s, and even Bush’s, abstinence policies as though they were against any prevention education as well.
It is unfathomable for me that the left must see everything as “either or”, rather than the conservatives who merely ask for a, “yes, and”.
Abstinence is a viable means of birth control, and one that is 100% successful. Why are the leftists so afraid of having this taught along side its so-called “safe sex” messages?
And don’t say, “Because abstinence education doesn’t work”. Well, no education is 100% successful. But we don’t stop teaching kids how to use condoms just because people are still going bareback, do we?
It’s the fear from the left that constrains debate, every single time.
What are you so afraid of????
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Eddysmom: Lefties always think everyone is as dumb as they are.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:37 pm
The left is in favor of ‘abstinence based’ education.
It is the right who wants ‘abstinence ONLY’.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Well, Eddysmom (and hopefully you’re teaching Eddy how not to get girls pregnant), actually it WAS abstinence-only education that Bush was funding. And states were actually rejecting the federal money, because they knew that abstinence-only education WOULD NOT WORK.
And it’s not just the failure of abstinence-only education that the far-right continues to push, it’s the way the far-right wants to limit access to birth control, the way it attempts to outlaw abortion, and the way it encourages women to have children they can’t care for, only to be told that they shouldn’t expect the very people who TOLD THEM to have kids, to lend a hand.
I’m scared of any person or people who want to control reproduction in this country, to the point that we’re left with a lot of impoverished, uneducated children whose parents refuse to care for them.
Palin’s one of those, by the way. I don’t buy for ONE MINUTE that she found enough time, as the Alaskan governor, to give her 5 kids the time and attention they all need.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Vince P, maybe your local “libranian” can help you look up the word “conservative.”
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Here is the Obama campaign admitting that it is spreading false stories, from the AP:
John McCain’s campaign said Tuesday that rival Barack Obama’s campaign was spreading “smears” about Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s past political affiliations…
The McCain campaign released voter registration documents Tuesday dating to 1990 in which Palin lists herself as a Republican. Campaign spokesman Brian Rogers said Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982, and has never been a member of the Alaskan Independence Party.
Palin addressed the Independence Party’s state convention by video earlier this year, welcoming the party to Fairbanks. She gave no indication of a current or past connection to the party.
“Your party plays an important role in our state’s politics,” she said in the video, which is posted on the party’s Web site. “I’ve always said that competition is so good, and that applies to political parties as well.”
Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, told ABC News that Palin and her husband, Todd, belonged to the party in 1994. Mark Chryson, chairman of the Independence Party from 1995 to 2002, told the network that Palin attended the party’s convention in 1994. He said he was not certain if she was a party member, and party records do not date back that far.
Obama advisers and surrogates have also linked Palin to conservative former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan. An Associated Press story from Alaska, dated July 17, 1999, states that Palin, then the mayor of the small town of Wasilla, was wearing a Buchanan button during a Buchanan visit to Alaska.
The Miami Herald this week quoted an e-mail from Obama Florida spokesman Mark Bubriski that stated: “Palin was a supporter of Pat Buchanan, a right-winger or as many Jews call him: a Nazi sympathizer.”
The McCain campaign says Palin supported Steve Forbes’ campaign in 1999.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Vince P,
I have seen several good posts by you, even got a good book recommendation from you. I’m sure you don’t really mean to speak in such absolute terms? ‘lefties always think…’ I think you are perhaps falling into the problem the two party system has set up (there is always a repub and a democrat view on every issue it seems, and they are always opposite). I have seen you criticize this type of thinking in other posts, yet you are exhibiting it here.
I have no doubt that I am far to the left of you, but I am not dumb nor do I believe you are. My father is far to the right of me, and yet he is my greatest hero, and in my view the smartest man ever to walk the earth. My mother is as left as I am and is quite brilliant as well. So, two people with opposite political views, both very smart, and both able to have a civil conversation without throwing (or responding to) insults.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:47 pm
sarah: wow.. you can spot a typing error and like a five year old you want to make sure you get credit for that.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:48 pm
UC: I mean the Far Left.. the Move On Lefties..
Are you Liberals going to allow them to hijack your party?
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Gee willikers, Vincey! You sure are grumpy today. I guess the “teachers” in the basement of your church school were a little more lenient during “speling klass,” huh?
Sorry the real world had to come crashing in on you.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Vince,
I don’t think they have hijacked the Democrats, anymore than the free republic people on the right have hijacked the Republicans.
(one minor point, I don’t have a party, this will in fact be the first election I have voted Democratic – have voted third party in every other election)
I do, personally, try to challenge unreasonable behavior/comments on both sides (though, in fairness, not yet today in this thread)
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:56 pm
UC: Please let us know which Republican do this:
The Politico has received an opposition research file from the Alaska Democrats. You can read it in PDF here.
In the file, the Democrats have released Sarah Palin’s social security number minus the last four digits. Also tied to the information are her various home addresses.
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Sarah,
re: ‘Palin’s one of those, by the way. I don’t buy for ONE MINUTE that she found enough time, as the Alaskan governor, to give her 5 kids the time and attention they all need.’
I absolutely do not want Palin to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, but questioning another’s parenting skills absent any *truly* objectionable public behavior has no place in political or private discourse.
You diminish the legitimate objections to Palin, and provide the opportunity for the right to rally to her defense on this type of issue while ignoring the real problems.
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Alan
The question to the American voters should be as followed:
If you know for a fact that:
A. John McCain will die in 6 months, would you still vote for the Republican ticket and trust Sarah Palin as President of the USA?
B. Barack Obama will die in 6 months would you still vote for the Democrat ticket and trust Joe Biden to be president of the USA?
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Well, interesting, but as to experience — please speak up on TV, Alan when Sean is spiraling out of control…
Here are the facts that are often covered up or intentionally misconstrued by both sides:
Barack Obama – Illinois State Legislator 1996-2004
Sarah Palin – Mayor of Wasilla 1996-2002 (and a councilwoman before that)
Why is it that this experience is ignored? Rudy Giuliani was “just” a Mayor (of a big city, yes), and Sarah Palin gets no credit for her time as Mayor.
Similarly, people speak of “Community Organizer” in a mocking way (Sean Hannity with his interview last night with Giuliani!) and pretend that Obama jumped from that to 2 years in the Senate, ignoring his time in the Illinois State Senate. Perhaps they don’t know the difference between Illinois State Sentate, and a Senator from Illinois…
Please help clear up this partisan mess!
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Sarah writes, “I’m scared of any person or people who want to control reproduction in this country, to the point that we’re left with a lot of impoverished, uneducated children whose parents refuse to care for them.”
First of all, Eddy is my dog and he’s been neutered. I guess you are in favor of people who want to control THAT reproduction, right?
Secondly, how can you blame the right for the “lot of improverished, uneducated children whose parents refuse to care of them”??
It is in cities controlled by the LEFT and under which liberal policies people suffer that have produced these people in your demographic description. And every one of those parents who refuse to care for them, if they voted at all, I guarantee you they voted for a Democrat. So think before you share, won’t you?
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Vince,
The link did not come through, and I’m not familiar with the Politico, but honestly I get my news from FOX, CNN, BBC, and Bloomberg primarily (I am a US citizen, but have not lived in the US the past couple of years – so don’t have access to network news).
If the Politico is some wacky left wing web site, I’m sure they do questionable things – like Rush Limbaugh trying to get republicans to vote in democratic primaries to keep things ‘tied’ as long as possible.
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Um Cara:
I suggest you don’t take Fox “News” seriously. They are a GOP propoganda station.
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:26 pm
TDRO,
FOX is not as ‘fair and balanced’ as they claim to be, but all editorial staff of all stations have their bias, whether they realize it or not. If one receives all of his news from the network that supports his own bias, one is less challenged and tends to become of the view that everyone agrees with his own personal view.
I certainly recognize FOX bias, and would even argue that it is more overt than many other news sources, but I also recognize bias in CNN, BBC, and Bloomberg (and NYT, and Wall Street Journal – the two main websites I get news from).
I suggest that you seek out as many news sources as possible in order to balance the various biases that you are exposed to, overtly or not. If nothing else it helps to remind you that there are many different perspectives on any given issue, and you will have the opportunity to think and view from those perspectives which will help you to argue your own view more effectively.
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:42 pm
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Eva
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Sarah – I understood your post, and I was trying to politely say that YOU should try not to be an idiot. Corporate America does not depend on the so-called “corporate welfare” for survival. I’ve read much of the left wing propaganda and it all boils down to nothing more than illogical attempts to claim that providing relief from the artificially enacted burdens established by Government is the same as redistributing one person’s earnings to another person who is “in need”. Not!
Be careful in what you ask for in Barry O. and the DoOverCrats – you just might get it.
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Um Cara:
I realize all stations are biased to some degree, but Fox “News” is blatantly biased and claim to be fair and balanced. Even today, I’m hearing Sean Hannity drone on about Clinton’s extramarital affair which happened 10 years ago. By the way. The Clinton impeachment was paid for by the American taxpayers.
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:50 pm
“So this woman, who could be one heartbeat away from being the most powerful person on the planet, has eighteen months experience governing about half of the Bronx!”
Yep, and by the way, there’s more people in Delaware than in all of Alaska.
“Your “journalism” is lacking in professionalism…”
Alan isn’t a journalist. He’s only said so about fifteen million times.
“…and your goofy grin makes me want to puke.”
Another right-wing radical with a weak stomach. Just like Bush. All mouth, no nerve.
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Is there a statute of limitations on cheating on your wife while President
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Sarah:
Pay no attention to the right wingers here. They don’t realize that we already subsidize the police and fire departments. They’re usually okay with huge tax breaks for the super rich and bigger tax burdens to the middle class.
These same people who claim to be “pro-life” are also “pro-war”. Sort of defeats the purpose.
If Joe S. saw a homeless person, he would pretty much spit on them than to part with a dollar. Pretty sad.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:01 pm
TDRO,
Sean is no more a journalist than Alan – it is expected that commentators & talk show hosts have stated opinions, it is part of the job description.
I agreed that FOX is more overtly biased than other networks, but it is the only big network with a conservative bias – thus I think you would be limiting your exposure to a point of view not represented in the less overtly liberal biased CNN, BBC, etc…
BUT – if you are watching them right now, apparently you watch FOX more than I do anyway :)
And yes, all impeachments in the US are paid for by US taxpayers, those cheap Canadians keep refusing to pay for them ;)
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:05 pm
The Clinton impeachment was paid for by the American taxpayers.
YES it was. Don’t you SEE what good care the AH took of your money. He could have told the truth but he chose to drag it through the court and LIE. Perjuror Ba$tard.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:07 pm
TDRO – Nice! When all else fails resort to personal attacks and inferred statements. You should go far in your party.
I would prefer to provide assistance to the homeless person in a manner that helps that person overcome his difficulties as opposed to a handout that does nothing more than encourage that behavior. I would like to choose the charities I donate to, not be forced to contribute to the ones you select. So much for Pro-Choice.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:10 pm
i’ve noticed yesterday on the o’reilly factor bill orally was interviewing minnesota gov tim pawlenty and called this guy a tax cutter yet me as a minnesota resident knows that not true because this guy raised our taxes to build a new baseball park for the minnesota twins baseball team and its billionaire owner at the expense of us the taxpayer, also last year when the bridge callapsed he was scheduled the day after that to do the groundbreaking of that ballpark and the significant part of my point on this is with the bridge he was giving notice of a problem 1 year prior to the bridge going down and yet choose not to spend taxpayer money for the bridge repair yet he choose to build a new ballpark for a billionaire owner with taxpayer money
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Comrades,
This right wing zealots will never understand. Comrade Obama will raise taxes on corporations and lower them on individuals. Contrary to their uneducated beliefs, raising taxes on corporations will not cause a rise in gas, food, clothing, etc. And even so, the tax reduction on the individual would compensate for any rise. This will especially be a win-win for those who consume no oil products, food, clothing, or other frivolous such items. Those who complain will be sent to reedumacation camps. The Fairness Doctrine WILL be implemented to silence these right wing hate mongers.
Yours Truly,
Kommander Poopster
Socialist Baby Killer Party of AmeriKKKa
(motto: abort ‘em, dead or alive!)
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:21 pm
this guy sounds like slant head sean hannity
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:29 pm
the hannity’s, druggie limbaugh’s etc talk a tough game yet when it was their time to serve they were no where to be seen
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:30 pm
The Politico is an Inside Politics-oriented Web-based Newspaper.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:34 pm
I still serve Joe. Sarah has relatives in the service. You are probable for NOT serving.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Sarah has more experience than Obama the Fraud and the scumbag John Edwards.
So everytime you people go on about her , you automatically diminish the Messiah
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Joe have you ever served or are they just words
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:38 pm
“Nice! When all else fails resort to personal attacks and inferred statements.”
I don’t recall making a personal attack. Did I say you should try not to be an idiot (posted by Joe S. at 3:49)?
I, too, would like to provide assistance in helping others overcome their difficulties, but not everybody is looking for a handout. We have veterans who have been severely brain damaged during their time in the armed forces living in the streets, and nobody cares. They should be getting not only free health care, but outstanding care, and yet thier care is less than adequate (if at all) in substandard facilities. This is disgusting.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:40 pm
“the hannity’s, druggie limbaugh’s etc talk a tough game yet when it was their time to serve they were no where to be seen”
Yeah, just like Biden they avoided the draft, and just like Obamassiah, they drank heavily, did coke, and shot up. Bunch of left wing phucktards….
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:46 pm
“just like Biden they avoided the draft, and just like Obamassiah, they drank heavily, did coke, and shot up. Bunch of left wing phucktards….”
And you know this for a fact? Please post your sources.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Is alcoholism “brain damage” TDRO? Is drug abuse “brain damage”?
I don’t buy your contributing factor analogy. I have served and continue to serve. Yes, it affected my brain. It affected my brain in a POSITIVE way.
It’s all what you make it. The world is awfully cruel to a street heroin addict. WOW, didn’t anyone tell you that you would get addicted to junk?
Somebody does care TDRO but it’s not the panhandler because I have offered them jobs, money by way of buying them a meal only to be TURNED DOWN.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:50 pm
try obamassiahs own biography ya phucktard
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Joe writes, “…yet when it was their time to serve”…Dude, when was Hannity’s “time to serve”? We enjoy a totally voluntary military in the US. Unless you’re in favor of the draft.
Are you in favor of the draft?
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:52 pm
“ya phucktard”
Posted by Tiny Tim
Yeah, well, I guess it takes one to know one.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:52 pm
while Palins husband was getting a dui, Obamassiah was drinking and drugging per his own bio….lol. oh, and running his campaign makes give him more executive experience than Palin… what a phucktard socialist.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:53 pm
certainly tdro, and you sure as phuck are one.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Smee:
There you go, assuming everybody is looking for a handout. I said our military should be treated with the respect they deserve by our government because they put their lives on the line for the American people.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:55 pm
joe fancies himself another e e cummings…….
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:55 pm
certainly tdro, and you sure as phuck are one.
Posted by Tiny Tim
Like I said, it takes one to know one.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:56 pm
TDRO – If you’ve followed the conversation thread, you would realize that the “idiot” dialog was started by your comrade Sarah (flinging insults seems to be a pattern amongst the lefties when logic fails). Was your statement that I would spit on a homeless person (posted by TDRA at 4:01) supposed to be a compliment?
Your example of veteran health care is a perfect example of why we don’t want government running these programs. Yet, its something we can all look forward to under Obama’s mandatory government-run health care program.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:56 pm
I’ve come to the conclusion that Sarah Palin is a complete right-wing nut. I’m still trying to get my head around why a guy like McCain would pick her! The main reason seems to be to sure up the conservative base while trying to attract a few Hillary women, but why would “The Maverick” John McCain pick his running mate soley for political reasons like that? Throughout this election he seems to have completely abandoned his old Maverick spirit and sold his soul to the right wing of the Republican party.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:57 pm
TDRO: Is that what you treat me with on a daily basis. I think not. I don’t have your respect because you don’t agree with me. I am not liberal enough for you. End of story.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm
They will never understand. Let them get it out here. Better here than bombing abortion clinics and raping black girls in Alabama. I know, if only they would embrace income redistribution and abortion the world would be a better place. Should we take power we will be able to implement many reeducation programs and we will be able to make them understand that our progressive views are not only valid but mandatory.
Your Friend and Comrade,
Kommander Poopster,
Socialist Baby Killer Party of AmeriKKKa
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm
UC, I respect your post, I really do. You have a legitimate point. Still, just as charity begins at home, so does morality that the religious right is always pushing. And if a political candidate wants to legislate morality, her personal life should be an open book. One would think the Republicans would be happy that moderates and liberals were “morally outraged,” but not so when it concerns their own party.
Eddysmom, pet your neutered dog for me. Sounds like you even took away HIS reproductive rights. weep for Eddy!
Secondly (or “second”), you don’t provide any back up to your claim that cities controlled by the LEFT are rife with impoverished children and homeless people. And you’re right. Poor people tend to vote Democrat, because they know rich people who run the GOP look down their noses at them.
I enjoy watching all the well-fed white people at the RNC. Whenever they cut to crowd scenes, I told my husband, “Oh, look. More white people. Oh, look. More old white guys. Oh look. More white people wearing cowboy hats.”
When they stood stock-still (like good little volk) for the “class picture,” my husband and I were able to pick out four black people and a couple of Asians in the crowd.
Republicans are so inclusive and caring about ALL Americans. You should really think before you share, don’t you agree?
Minnesota Joe– Thanks for the perspective on Pawlenty. Yeah, too bad your bridge fell apart, but at least your billionaire owners have a new stadium!
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Barack Obama – “Look, I got two daughters — 9 years old and 6 years old.I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby. I don’t want them punished with an STD at age 16, so it doesn’t make sense to not give them information.”
Sarah Palin – “Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support” -Sarah Palin
MICHAEL (leftwing phucktard) – “I’ve come to the conclusion that Sarah Palin is a complete right-wing nut. I’m still trying to get my head around why a guy like McCain would pick her!”
America doesn’t want to be ‘punished’ with an Obamassiah presidency.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Someone please tell me – which right wing talk show host is it that is referring to Obama as a socialist? All these people on the show and this blog keep referring to him as a socialist, so I have to assume it is Rush? Or Hannity? Or Savage? All of them? I am sincerely interested in knowing.
Guys, disagree with Obama, point out where you think he is wrong, whatever. But please, it is boring to read/hear over and over that he is a socialist, when obviously, he is not. If you truly believe he is a socialist, at least point out why you think so.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Christ would be ashamed of these backwards fools. You know as well as I that Christ would have aborted his retarded child rather than allow it to be birthed and burden both himself and the welfare system in place at the time. These reprogrammed right wing nazis just need to be edumacated and they would then understand the validity of our progressive, and may I also add, our CORRECT vision of Amerikkka. EIGHT IS WAY MORE THAN ENOUGH! WE MUST ERADICATE THIS RIGHT WING SURGE ON AMERIKKKA. After taking power we will correct Amerikkka, Then, and only then, we will commence our progressive program to “Re Educate and Assimilate”
Your Friend and Comrade,
Kommander Poopster,
Socialist Baby Killer Party of AmeriKKKa
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:04 pm
What about your corn fed Liberal icon Michael Moore Sarah? He’s such a nice man-thing.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Comrade Obama is not a socialist. He simply envisions the correct path for AmeriKKKa of “income redistribution”, no different than the leaders of our wonderous party! Once in power we shall implement the Fairness Doctrine, and if necessary we will enroll Mr. Limbaugh, as well as the others, in our reedumacation camps. Dissenting views will not be tolerated.
Your Friend and Comrade,
Kommander Poopster,
Socialist Baby Killer Party of AmeriKKKa
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:08 pm
UC: I call him a Marxist because:
His mother was a communist
When he was in high school, his mentor was a communist
Bill Ayers and his wife are Marxists
Black Liberation Theology (the basis of the Trinity Church) is a Marxist mutant of Christianity
He writes in his book of his affinity with lots of people in the Universities who were affiliated with communisim/socialism.
Now , please.. what kind of person would subject himself to so many people who do not use deodorant if he was not one of them?
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Good lord KP – you are a sick person, not funny, not clever, and certainly no Jonathan Swift – as you seem to think you are.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:09 pm
I am a proud member of the Socialist Baby Killer Party of Amerika, aka the Democratic Party. The Rethuglican neo-cons will not derail our ascendancy to power. And they will pay for the lives of the innocent children that they did not take! We will make them pay and edumacate them as we did before with their tendency toward racism. With our implementation of the Fairness Doctrine, we will liberate their minds as surely as we liberated the negros from the unjust yoke of slavery that the Rethuglicans imposed upon them.
Kommander Poopster,
Socialist Baby Killer Party of AmeriKKKa
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Vince,
Well, I guess none of us choose our mother, so come on, at least don’t hold his mother against him.
Bill Ayers does not seem to be a close associate of his (I will be interested in what the recently released papers show, however)
Black Liberation Theology is not Marxist, to my understanding.
I have not read his book – I bet it is boring though, most politicians books are… Did you read it? If so is it worth chugging through it?
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Sarah I’m sorry I just don’t know how you can come to these conclusions. Political candidates lives are open books but their childrens lives are not. Cities that are controlled by the left I’ll give you a state California that is completely bankrupt. Why does everything have to come down to the color of ones skin.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Ja Kommander……Ach see how manys peoples you hauf inspiriert, nein, as you say inspired….ja! Du bist ein besten ( you are zee greatest)! Ja, Ja OBAMA!!!!
Sieg Heil!!!
Eva und Adolf
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Sarah is misguided & opressed by the Republicans MK97. She will never buy your philosophy. Did she tell us what her “color” was? Did she have to?
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:19 pm
from wikipedia… black lib theology…
“Theologians such as theology scholar Dr. Robert A. Morley take a dim view of black theology. Morley’s paper “The Goals Of Black Liberal Theology” is one widely quoted paper citing specific criticisms of black theology.
He states that black theology turns religion into sociology, and Jesus into a black Marxist rebel. While making statements against whites and Asians, it promotes a poor self-image among blacks, and describes the black man as a helpless victim of forces and people beyond his control. Black theology calls for political liberation instead of spiritual salvation.
Fundamentally, it is not Bible-based, Christ-honoring theology from this critical viewpoint. [30] Anthony Bradley of the Christian Post interprets that the language of “economic parity” and references to “mal-distribution” as nothing more than channeling the views of Karl Marx.
He believes James Cone and Cornel West have worked to incorporate Marxist thought into the black church, forming an ethical framework predicated on a system of oppressor class versus a victim much like Marxism.[31]
Stanley Kurtz of the National Review criticizes black liberation theology, saying, “A scarcely concealed, Marxist-inspired indictment of American capitalism pervades contemporary ‘black-liberation theology’…The black intellectual’s goal, says Cone, is to “aid in the destruction of America as he knows it.” Such destruction requires both black anger and white guilt. The black-power theologian’s goal is to tell the story of American oppression so powerfully and precisely that white men will “tremble, curse, and go mad, because they will be drenched with the filth of their evil.” In the preface to his 1970 book, A Black Theology of Liberation, Wright wrote: “There will be no peace in America until whites begin to hate their whiteness, asking from the depths of their being: ‘How can we become black?’”"
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Sara,
I agree to a point that it is fair to look at her morality, since she very much has run as a moralist. But I would prefer to go after her line item veto helping poor young mothers as an example of her lack, rather than assuming/stating that she is a bad mother because she has a challenging job. I think a poor, young girl, without the benefit of a supportive family, who chooses to keep her child, is an example of someone I don’t mind a bit helping with my tax dollars. We are a rich enough, moral enough nation to do so.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:21 pm
“If you truly believe he is a socialist, at least point out why you think so.”
OK, Cara, he’s a socialist because he is in favor of wealth redistribution. Taking from those who have, without their permission, and giving to those who have not, without their having earned it.
Now, try to keep up.
First, here’s the definition of “socialist”:
socialist – adjective
1. advocating or following the socialist principles; “socialistic government”
And now, the definition of “socialism”:
so·cial·ism – –noun
1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., IN THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
We don’t have to debate this. Obama admits this is his plan: to take from the rich and redistribute it to everyone.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:24 pm
from wikipedia re: black liberation theology:
This article may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia’s quality standards.
And I think I -might- want a bit less biased view than National Review to back it up (though National Review is an excellently produced hard right website/magazine, I highly recommend it to anyone interested in learning what/and why conservatives believe what they do)
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Comrade Eva,
Tonight will be our night! Ms. Palin should have known enough to abort retarded child, then we would be able to acknowledge her superior judgement. The fact that she had the audacity to choose to get pregnant and then to keep this abomination shows that her judgement is flawed and once again affirms our superior intellect and that of our wondrous Socialist Baby Killer Party (aka Democratic Party). Eva, in acknowledgment of your superior judgment I hereby levitate you to the rank of Assistant Kommander. Yes indeed, eight years is enough and we are the change that we have been waiting for! Obamassiah ‘08
Your Friend and Komrade
Kommander Poopster
Socialist Baby Killer Party of Amerikkka
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Well said EDDYSMOM I was just typing the definition myself.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:29 pm
“I highly recommend it to anyone interested in learning what/and why conservatives believe what they do”
Nothing from anyone would change your sad excuse for a mind. LOL…. you’re pathetic… I believe that you should join Kommander Poopster, he would probably be most happy to elevate you to a higher rank than party pion… oh, sorry, you already have I see.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Eddysmom,
Your sarcastic tone does not help your argument, I’ll refrain from taking your bait and responding in kind.
So, are you against Medicaid, medicare, and social security? Are you against public schools? Should all roads be toll roads? Should people who can not afford to pay for private security have access to public police protection? Are free lunch programs for poor kids to be abolished? Do you support any of these, and if so, by your definition, does that make you a socialist?
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Sarah, you write, “Secondly (or “second”), you don’t provide any back up to your claim that cities controlled by the LEFT are rife with impoverished children and homeless people. ”
OK, I’ll bite. Pick a city that is rife with impoverished children and homeless people that is NOT run by a Democrat. New Orleans? Oops. Mayor “school bus” Nagin. Los Angeles? Oops, another Dem. Wait…San Francisco? Mayor Gavin “any twosome” Newsom, another Dem. Atlanta? Mayor Franklin co-chaired the 2008 DNC.
You can stop me any time, but I think I’ve “provided” enough backup for my point.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:34 pm
” socialist – adjective
1. advocating or following the socialist principles; “socialistic government”
And now, the definition of “socialism”:
so·cial·ism – –noun
1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., IN THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. ”
Where did you get these definitions? Links please.
Obviously, they most probably need “cleaning up”. Did you get these definitions from the National Review? I suspect your definitions are biased if based solely upon your posting of them as you are obviously a right winger. In any case, I am glad you posted your definitions here so that readers can get a glimpse into the mind of the right.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Bob,
I have a sad excuse for a mind because I disagree with you, or because of the way I have stated my opinions, arguments, and questions?
re: my statement about national review and conservatives, I was not insulting either – I was genuinely saying that NR very effectively articulates conservative thought and beliefs
re: …elevate you to a higher rank than party pion
I don’t actually belong to any political party, so I suppose I am beneath pion status in both the Democratic and Republican parties, which is OK by me
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Um Cara, your comments have nothing to do with the subject. Taxes go to pay for these things you mention. I am in favor of paying a fair tax to support the needs of the American people. I am not in favor of anyone telling me, or anyone else, “You make too much money, so I’m going to take some of it away from you and give it to others that I decide are more worthy”.
I am a capitalist. Capitalists support social programs. That is not being a socialist.
Go back to school.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Bob, I got the definitions from, http://www.dictionary.com.
Hardly propagandist.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:37 pm
LOL, you may not be a member of any political party (nice disingenuous little tagline). But you sure as heck have always voted with the Democrats and always will. You know it, I know it, and everyone else here does as well. I don’t belong to any political party either but you can sure as hell bet I will vote conservative (whether that be republican or libertarian, tbd). As there is only one liberal left wing party, we know where you will (and have been) be throwing your support.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:39 pm
“So, are you against Medicaid, medicare, and social security?”
I am against these at the Federal Govt level.
They’re unconstitutional and they have essentially bankrupted the govt.
The US Govt is over 50 Trillian in debt.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Bob, I’m not sure Um Cara is old enough to vote yet. And if we can agree on anything, it should be that the dictionary leans neither left nor right. Please.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Eddysmom,
I certainly know what a socialist is, that is why I am confused by people who think Obama is a socialist. By your own refined definition of a capitalist who supports social programs – I would argue that both you and Obama are capitalists who support social programs.
And I would love to go back to school, but I am too busy working. After I have retired, I hope to have the opportunity to return to the classroom.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:43 pm
AAAAACCHHHHH!! “Assistant Kommander”!!!!! Ach, mein Gott in Himmel!!!!! Ja dies abortions…you meen liken zee killinks? OO, ja ….me und Adolf , ve kennen ..I mean ve know alles zee killlinks..ist gut!!
Alles mein beste,
Kommander Eva : -}
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Good luck to you, Cara.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:45 pm
“And I would love to go back to school, but I am too busy working. After I have retired, I hope to have the opportunity to return to the classroom.”
Perhaps, if Obama get the reins of government he will make that possible for you through one of his many income redistribution programs! You lucky lady you.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Vince,
US Govt debt is a big problem, I agree. We are essentially selling ourselves to the chinese. I don’t agree that the solution is to cut medicare, medicaid, and social security – but I sure do agree that the bankrupted govt. is a rather rude present for our children, and we as a nation need to have a real conversation about that – very, very soon.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:47 pm
“I am not in favor of anyone telling me, or anyone else, ‘You make too much money, so I’m going to take some of it away from you and give it to others that I decide are more worthy.’”
Listen a little more closely. Maybe what they’re saying is, “Congratulations, you’ve used American resources to enhance your wealth. Since you’ve used America’s resources to enhance your wealth, it’s expected that you give back to your country proportionately so that we can increase the health and potential of your country.”
Or is that unpatriotic, to believe in and support one’s country?
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Bob,
Um Cara is Brazilian Portuguese slang for ‘A dude’ – I’m not a lady. And I’m probably not going to benefit from any income redistribution, my income would end up getting redistributed, I’m afraid.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Oooopsy….I mean to say, Assistant Kommander, Eva!!!! I am so mit sadden….bitte…pleeze not to hauf me killinks?
“Assistant” Kommander, Eva :-{
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Kommander – You neglect to comment on the audacity of the neo-con vice-presedential selection to continue to work after having given birth to offspring. Would it not be better for the community for all post-child birth women to remain at home for the remainder of their lives? Please instruct Nancy Pelosi of this change in party belief immediately.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Um Cara needs to buy “Um Clue”!
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:53 pm
UC: Give us a break.
You still dont know why he’s a Marxist after everything people have told you?
If you’re going to just reject what people say, why ask them to explain?
Are you incapable of taking what people say and use that as a basis for your research?
Don’t tell us we failed to pursuade you… I would say you refuse to be persuaded.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:57 pm
A clue for what? You mean if I don’t agree Obama is a socialist I am clueless? Really? It is that cut and dried? I have seen no concrete examples that would show Obama is a socialist. Vince came the closest with showing some ‘guilt by association’ links with alleged Marxists, but how about pointing out a couple of specific policies showing Obama is a socialist?
McCain supports a progressive tax system, is he a socialist too?
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Sarah Let me get this straight I worked my way thru school busing tables and picking up trash to get an education for a better future for myself and my family to turn around and give my money to a high school dropout or a drug addict that had the same chances at success that I had because I used America’s resourses and they didn’t.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Sara: The United States is based on Liberty, not Fascism. Screw the govt… I make my own success.. using my own resources. They needed an amendment to tax my income. Another sad legacy of the Progressive era.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:01 pm
UC: Obama’s Global Poverty Act is the epitome of his plan to drain the wealth of the people of this country.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Kommander Eva,
It is so good to hear from you again Comrade. We could most probably further our cause (at least in the case of abortions) if we only explained the circumstances to these right wing rethuglicians behind these necessary deaths. We do not take 40 million plus abortions lightly, but the truth be told most of them were either the result of rape and incest, or the unfortunate circumstance of a bad fetus. I do not believe that any were solely the result of utilizing our methods for birth control. We must make them understand the necessity of each and every one of these unfortunate deaths. There levitation of Ms. Palin demonstrates the necessity of abortion. Had Ms. Palin been thinking of her fetus instead of herself, she would have aborted this retarded abomination and save it from a life of suffering and scorn. I am still convinced that we can change the minds of many rethuglicans and for those who refuse to understand we will send them to one of our reedumacation camps. Hopefully, after we enable the Fairness Doctrine we will not have to go to such extremes.
Your Friend and Komrade
Kommander Poopster
Socialist Baby Killer Party of Amerikkka
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:03 pm
Vince,
First off – I appreciate that you refer to him as a Marxist rather than a ’socalist’ at least you are being a bit more specific.
I would not say I refuse to be persuaded, I just have not seen any proof. Again, you came closest – but how about listing a couple of socialist policy positions Obama supports. Several people have said that he wants to redistribute wealth, which I suppose is what a progressive tax system does in principle, so if that is ’socialist’ Reagan was socialist, Bush(s) are socialists, Clinton was a socialist, McCain is a socialist, and every other politician who does not want to do away with taxes entirely, or move to a flat tax.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Hear! Hear! MK, you would think that if you bust your tail, working two jobs and going to school at night to make a better life for yourself and your family, that you would be able to profit from that work. But, no, apparently not. You have to work even harder to help the high school dropouts who won’t help themselves. Yes, this is part of the “Fairness” doctrine brought to you by the left wing.
If Obama wins, I think I’ll quit my job and get in line for the handouts.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Komrade Joe S.,
I apologize for my neglect. You are correct. All post-child birth women who refuse to terminate their child (either pre or post birth) should remain at home for the remainder of their lives, or until such time as they terminate. As you have discovered my neglect I must levitate you to the rank of Assistant Kommander. Do not take this lightly as this rank is only awarded to the brightest among us. Thank you for your service and I look forward to working with you.
Your Friend and Komrade
Kommander Poopster
Socialist Baby Killer Party of Amerikkka
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Komrade Um Cara,
These right wing bigots will never understand. I am most happy to have men of your insight and integrity on board. Together we will edumacate these rethuglicans and make them understand that we mean them no harm. They are our brothers and sisters and together with “the one” we will build a better future predicated on hope and change!! Those whom we cannot convince we will convince. For your exceptional service under blog fire, I hereby levitate to the rank of Korporal.
Your Friend and Komrade
Kommander Poopster
Socialist Baby Killer Party of Amerikkka
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:16 pm
UC: “how about listing a couple of socialist policy positions Obama supports”
Obama’s Global Poverty Act.
Obama isn’t very industrious , so it’s hard to point out anything concrete he has done or wants to do.
So far his best achievement is fooling the Democrats into thinking he actually believes the scripts he reads on the campaign trail that his Rasputin, David Axlerod , writes for him.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Vince,
Thanks much for the example, the global poverty act is a bipartisan humanitarian program. The US currently spends as much on the military as the next 40 countries combined. Thus we currently have a ’socialism’ program of protecting the world militarily.
I would argue that we could use some of those ’socialist’ military dollars to help alleviate world hunger, which would also help stabilize security around the world. Perhaps getting better bang for our buck.
Living in Brazil, and having traveled extensively throughout Latin America, and some of the poorer parts of Asia, I can tell you it would not be money wasted.
But at any rate, I would hardly call this bipartisan effort socialism, and if you really believe it is, I hope you are as hard on all who worked to pass it as you are on Obama.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Once again KP, you aren’t Jonathan Swift, try a different shtick
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Korporal Um Cara,
Do not try to reason with them. They fail to understand that there are no socialist programs in existence anywhere in the world, just right wingers and neocons who see socialism everywhere. Upon taking power we will relegate this flawed thinking to the dustbin of history!
Your Friend and Komrade
Kommander Poopster
Socialist Baby Killer Party of Amerikkka
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Perhaps this will help them understand our philsophy Korporal Um Cara….
from thepeoplescube….
Obama’s Sermon on the Mile High Mount
By Mikhail T. Kalashnikov
9/1/2008, 2:14 pm
The Book of Invesco
The Sermon on the Mile High Mount
1Then it came to pass in the Land of Entitlement that the Word became Change and the Change became Hope and the Hope became Change You Can Believe In. 2And The Obamessisah went about all fifty-seven states, teaching at their Caucuses and Primaries, healing malaise among the poor in spirit, and preaching the gospel of Progress. 3Then His fame went throughout all the land; and they came to Him all people who were afflicted with Bush Derangement; and those who were hopenitized; moonbats and troofers; and He wooed them. 4Great multitudes followed Him – from Chicago to Jersey, and beyond the Hills of Beverly.
~
5And seeing the multitudes, He went up on a mountain and stepped into the floodlights where they had built for Him a temple, and His disciples gathered around Him. Then He opened His mouth and taught them, saying:
6″Blessed are the poor,
For theirs is the kingdom of State expropriated wealth.
7Blessed are the jobless,
For the taxpayers shall be their keepers.
8Blessed are those who lost their homes,
For they shall inherit a bailout.
9Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for Change™,
For they shall be filled with a great taxpayer-funded feast.
10Blessed are all who have grievances,
For they shall be compensated through civil rights lawsuits.
11Blessed are the peace protesters,
For theirs is the Progressive World of Next Tuesday™.
12Blessed are those one illness away from disaster,
For they shall obtain free health care.
13Blessed are our homosexual brothers and sisters,
For they shall be married and receive Intensive Family Preservation programs and Family Reunification privileges from the immigration authorities.
Obamessiah with Matthews and Olbermann
14″Blessed are you when Republicans revile and persecute you falsely for My sake. 15Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for people love me, so when you follow me, the world will love you, also.
16″You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt loses its flavor, it is then good for nothing but to be thrown under the bus.
17″Do not think that I came to shrink the size of government. 18For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one dot above an ‘i’ will by no means pass from the law or government till all of my audacious dreams are fulfilled. And then I will build more.
19″You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘We are responsible for ourselves,’ but we in truth rise or fall as a collective; the fundamental belief that I am my brother’s keeper – unless he lives in a hut in Kenya.
20″And I say to you that whoever goes to war or tortures another without a progressive cause, shall be in danger of the judgment by the rest of the world. And whoever says to another the word ‘unilaterally’ shall be in danger of the judgment by the UN council.
21Therefore if you bring international aid to the altar of appeasement, and there remember that those nations’ rulers are against you, 22leave your aid there and go away. 23Agree with your adversary quickly, without preconditions, lest your adversary accuses you of crimes against everything and deliver you to the judges of The Hague.
24″You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 25But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart, so go right ahead, just make sure to get the media to cover it up for you.
26If your right eye causes you to sin, invite the left one to join in; for if it looks good, it can’t be wrong. 27And if your right hand causes you to sin, make sure to have enough for the left hand; for if it feels good, it can’t be wrong.
28″You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ 29But I tell you not to break the peace unless you can pin it on Republicans. But whoever else in the world slaps you on your cheek, pander to him with largesse. 30If anyone wants to sue you and have your money, let him have your country also.
31″You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 32But I say to you, hate your rich neighbors and love the government officials who redistribute their wealth. 33And love your country’s enemies too, for the enemy of Amerika is your friend; bless those who curse it, do good to those who hate it, and agree with those who spitefully use it and attack it, 34that you may be the progressive children of The Obamessiah; for He makes the sea levels fall and sends rain and hurricanes on the conventions of the unjust.
35For if you love those who love you not, you get to wail and lament. Did not the Screen Actors Guild do so? 36And if you snivel loudly enough, you will be rewarded. Was not the Screen Actors Guild rewarded so? 37Therefore you shall be perfect, just as The Obamessiah is perfect.
38″And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrite bitter clingers. For they love to pray standing on the corners of the streets, for they think that they will be heard for their many words. Assuredly, I say to you, when you pray, go into your local government office, and pray to your Messiah who is in the White House; and The Obamessiah will reward you openly.
39″Therefore do not be like them. For The Obamessiah knows the things you have need of before you ask Him. 40In this manner, therefore, pray:
Our Player, Barack the Messiah,
Washington be thy game.
Thy welfare come,
Grabbeth all thy guns
So we will think that we’re all in heaven.
Taxeth away our daily bread,
And giveth to those identity groups who trespass against work.
Make us not a prosperous nation,
For all wealth is evil,
And thine is the shakedown with all power and fury.
Obamunist forever. Amen.
41″Enter by the narrow gate of Obamunism; for wide is the gate and broad is the way of Capitalism that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 42Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to Obamunism, and there are few who find it. 43For if you take from each according to his ability, The Obamessiah shall give to each according to his needs.
44″Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on land purchased at a discount from a friend.
45″But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who sat on his hands when the rain descended, the floods came, and drowned New Orleans.”
46And so it was, when The Obamessisah had ended these sayings, that the people were astonished at His teaching, 47for He taught them as one having authority, and not as one offering more of the same.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:27 pm
KOMMANDER: I shall never scumb to the evil of Collectivism and all of its mutations… Socialism, Fascism, Communism, NAZIsm.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Sarah writes, “Maybe what they’re saying is, “Congratulations, you’ve used American resources to enhance your wealth. Since you’ve used America’s resources to enhance your wealth, it’s expected that you give back to your country proportionately so that we can increase the health and potential of your country.”
Sarah, you have perfectly captured the socialist agenda. Understand this: I have not “used American resources to enhance my wealth”. I have GIVEN my resources to enhance AMERICA’S wealth, you dimbulb!
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Vince P.,
Then you will be assimilated.
Kommander Poopster
Socialist Baby Killer Party of Amerikkka
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Herr Kommander Poopster:
Ach! You say zher ist 40 millions of abortions??? AACCCHHH!! Me und Adolf, ve machen only zee 6 millions! ( I feelen mit schamen….only 6….ve hauf das wirken to do!!!!) Ich bin ein trampen, ein lowly vomen….I must stay in eine haus mit meine kinder…(ist und bombe shelter, really). Adolf und I machen zee grossen contribution to Herr Obama fur der vorke von der volken….I mean peoples. Sieg Heil Democratic Peoples Party, Seig Heil Obama!!!
Alles beste mein Kommander,
Assistant Kommander, Eva
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:38 pm
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/03/anti-palin-lie-of-the-morning-she-slashed-teen-pregnancy-funding/
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Eddysmom,
You most certainly have benefited from America’s resources (AND undoubtedly contributed as well). Or perhaps you think you could have been equally successful in North Korea, or the Sudan, or Colombia?
Don’t be so simplistic as to think that you have only given and never received, you should be grateful that you were fortunate enough to be born in such a great country as the United States of America, yet you seem to think that it and your fellow countrymen, especially those of whom are worse off than you, are little more than leeches.
Shame on you.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:48 pm
Ah, the shameless announce shame….how ironic!
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:50 pm
I am grateful, UmCara, and how dare you suggest otherwise simply because I don’t agree with Obama’s socialist agenda.
I have traveled extensively to other countries and donated thousands of hours and tens of thousands of dollars to aid others in their suffering, both in this country and abroad. I have seen and cared for others suffering beyond anything you can imagine on your comfy lillypad.
Shame on YOU for judging me and knowing nothing about me.
You pompous, arrogant ass. No wonder you find nothing offensive about Obama: you’re just like him.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:53 pm
And what, pray tell, should I be ashamed of? Not agreeing with you?
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Ad Rem,
he’s a liberal democrat (…who has no party affiliation). what do you expect.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:54 pm
“And what, pray tell, should I be ashamed of?”
Gotta mirror? Assuming you can see your reflection, try reflecting on that self-righteous and judgmental attitude of yours.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Eddysmom,
I was specifically commenting on the fact that you say you have not used America’s resources, when, obviously, you have. It had nothing to do with your misinformed view that Obama is a socialist. You should appreciate what America has done for you, and not pretend that you have only been a contributor.
You, on the other hand, have made a number of baseless assumptions about me.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:57 pm
At this point, they’re not assumptions…they’re confirmations!
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:58 pm
No, I never said that I had not used America’s resources; I said I had not used them to enhance my wealth.
Nobody can decide for another what qualifies as wealth.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Eddysmom,
It also had nothing to do with his misinformed view that Obamassiah is a Democrat. Um Cara continues to make baseless assumptions about everything, including himself.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Um Cara….so, so very self-righteous.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:03 pm
OK, sure Eddysmom, you have not used Americas resource to enhance your wealth, by whatever specific definition of ‘wealth’ you choose. You have only contributed.
And Obama is a ’socialist’ based on whatever twisted definition of socialist the various posters have for ’socialist’
I agree with all of your points, as I now understand you have a special set of definitions for words like wealth and socialist.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:05 pm
The meaning of the word is, is……
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:08 pm
You’re right, Um Cara.
That damned right-wing propagandist, Merriam-Webster, deciding how to define terms like “socialist” and “wealthy”. Who died and made THEM the royal definers, anyway??
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Really, I am the one who is self righteous, because I acknowledge the great benefit that I received by being raised in the wealthiest country in the world, rather than feeling that I have only been a contributor, and get offended by someone who apparently does not recognize or appreciate that great fortune.
Oakey doakey artichoke
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:09 pm
i tried to tell you people um cara was a phucktard. give it up. he’s a mindless cog of the Obama machine.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:11 pm
So be thankful and stop demanding more from your country. I notice that, beyond your grateful attitude, you have offered nothing in the way of what YOU have contributed. Only what you think the rest of us should think, feel and contribute.
That, Um Cara, is self-righteousness, defined as follows by Merriam-Webster:
: convinced of one’s own righteousness especially in contrast with the actions and beliefs of others : narrow-mindedly moralistic
— self–righ·teous·ly adverb
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Eddysmom,
You were the one who stated ‘Nobody can decide for another what qualifies as wealth’
I personally do in fact think dictionaries are perfectly acceptable places to look for definitions.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Don’t you realise when you use words like ‘Obamassiah ‘,
I’ve seen, ‘libtard’, ‘demoncrat’, ‘dummodrat’, WITH someone who doesn’t use similar slurs……
It just sounds like you can’t argue the ACTUAL issues?
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:13 pm
EDDYSMOM
you are just not going to change the extremley closeminded socialist UM. People continue thru this whole conversation try to explain how a capitalist society works. Thru hard work and determinatin you have accomplished what he will never get. Self Pride and Satisfacion on accomplishing your goals without a handout.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:14 pm
“Oldlefty”…Alan, is that YOU??
:-)
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:14 pm
No, can’t argue actual issues with brain dead lockstep phucktards. You are quite correct.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Thanks, MK97, Tiny Tim and Ad Rem. You’re right.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Who said socialism was all bad, anyway? Think for yourselves a little bit once in a while. sheesh.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:15 pm
*sigh* no, OldLefty is an old relic of this site back before it was invaded.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Also, I’m convinced that for the right, ’socialist’ means using taxpayer’s money to help the poor get richer, and ‘free market capitalism’ means using taxpayer’s money to help the rich get richer.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:17 pm
I don’t understand your point. What more have I demanded from my country? What are you talking about?
As for what I have contributed, I’m a responsible citizen, I pay my taxes, I’m perfectly fine with paying more, especially if it goes to pay down the debt.
I don’t live in the US anymore, but when I was a resident of the US, I was a good neighbor, participated in community events, participated in charitable events, etc…
I bet you do the same. Hopefully you will someday also realize that you have ‘used American resources to enhance your wealth’ and not only been a contributor.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:18 pm
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NjAzOGY0MDVmNTQyYTNmYmJhNjRkN2UzZmVlN2I4MDg=
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Sky, talk to people who have escaped fascism and persecution under the former Soviet Union, or as they preferred to be known, the “USSR”, which stands for the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
Lord, have mercy. I shudder when I consider the ignorance of Alan Colmes’ minions.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:18 pm
‘eddysmom’….Rush, is that you?
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:20 pm
The Book of Invesco
The Sermon on the Mile High Mount
1Then it came to pass in the Land of Entitlement that the Word became Change and the Change became Hope and the Hope became Change You Can Believe In. 2And The Obamessisah went about all fifty-seven states, teaching at their Caucuses and Primaries, healing malaise among the poor in spirit, and preaching the gospel of Progress. 3Then His fame went throughout all the land; and they came to Him all people who were afflicted with Bush Derangement; and those who were hopenitized; moonbats and troofers; and He wooed them. 4Great multitudes followed Him – from Chicago to Jersey, and beyond the Hills of Beverly.
~
5And seeing the multitudes, He went up on a mountain and stepped into the floodlights where they had built for Him a temple, and His disciples gathered around Him. Then He opened His mouth and taught them, saying:
6″Blessed are the poor,
For theirs is the kingdom of State expropriated wealth.
7Blessed are the jobless,
For the taxpayers shall be their keepers.
8Blessed are those who lost their homes,
For they shall inherit a bailout.
9Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for Change™,
For they shall be filled with a great taxpayer-funded feast.
10Blessed are all who have grievances,
For they shall be compensated through civil rights lawsuits.
11Blessed are the peace protesters,
For theirs is the Progressive World of Next Tuesday™.
12Blessed are those one illness away from disaster,
For they shall obtain free health care.
13Blessed are our homosexual brothers and sisters,
For they shall be married and receive Intensive Family Preservation programs and Family Reunification privileges from the immigration authorities.
Obamessiah with Matthews and Olbermann
14″Blessed are you when Republicans revile and persecute you falsely for My sake. 15Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for people love me, so when you follow me, the world will love you, also.
16″You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt loses its flavor, it is then good for nothing but to be thrown under the bus.
17″Do not think that I came to shrink the size of government. 18For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one dot above an ‘i’ will by no means pass from the law or government till all of my audacious dreams are fulfilled. And then I will build more.
19″You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘We are responsible for ourselves,’ but we in truth rise or fall as a collective; the fundamental belief that I am my brother’s keeper – unless he lives in a hut in Kenya.
20″And I say to you that whoever goes to war or tortures another without a progressive cause, shall be in danger of the judgment by the rest of the world. And whoever says to another the word ‘unilaterally’ shall be in danger of the judgment by the UN council.
21Therefore if you bring international aid to the altar of appeasement, and there remember that those nations’ rulers are against you, 22leave your aid there and go away. 23Agree with your adversary quickly, without preconditions, lest your adversary accuses you of crimes against everything and deliver you to the judges of The Hague.
24″You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 25But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart, so go right ahead, just make sure to get the media to cover it up for you.
26If your right eye causes you to sin, invite the left one to join in; for if it looks good, it can’t be wrong. 27And if your right hand causes you to sin, make sure to have enough for the left hand; for if it feels good, it can’t be wrong.
28″You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ 29But I tell you not to break the peace unless you can pin it on Republicans. But whoever else in the world slaps you on your cheek, pander to him with largesse. 30If anyone wants to sue you and have your money, let him have your country also.
31″You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 32But I say to you, hate your rich neighbors and love the government officials who redistribute their wealth. 33And love your country’s enemies too, for the enemy of Amerika is your friend; bless those who curse it, do good to those who hate it, and agree with those who spitefully use it and attack it, 34that you may be the progressive children of The Obamessiah; for He makes the sea levels fall and sends rain and hurricanes on the conventions of the unjust.
35For if you love those who love you not, you get to wail and lament. Did not the Screen Actors Guild do so? 36And if you snivel loudly enough, you will be rewarded. Was not the Screen Actors Guild rewarded so? 37Therefore you shall be perfect, just as The Obamessiah is perfect.
38″And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrite bitter clingers. For they love to pray standing on the corners of the streets, for they think that they will be heard for their many words. Assuredly, I say to you, when you pray, go into your local government office, and pray to your Messiah who is in the White House; and The Obamessiah will reward you openly.
39″Therefore do not be like them. For The Obamessiah knows the things you have need of before you ask Him. 40In this manner, therefore, pray:
Our Player, Barack the Messiah,
Washington be thy game.
Thy welfare come,
Grabbeth all thy guns
So we will think that we’re all in heaven.
Taxeth away our daily bread,
And giveth to those identity groups who trespass against work.
Make us not a prosperous nation,
For all wealth is evil,
And thine is the shakedown with all power and fury.
Obamunist forever. Amen.
41″Enter by the narrow gate of Obamunism; for wide is the gate and broad is the way of Capitalism that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 42Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to Obamunism, and there are few who find it. 43For if you take from each according to his ability, The Obamessiah shall give to each according to his needs.
44″Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on land purchased at a discount from a friend.
45″But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who sat on his hands when the rain descended, the floods came, and drowned New Orleans.”
46And so it was, when The Obamessisah had ended these sayings, that the people were astonished at His teaching, 47for He taught them as one having authority, and not as one offering more of the same.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Oh my, now I’m a socialist too? Pretty funny, since I used to give my ex-wife a hard time for receiving socialist newsletters in college.
I’m a hard core capitalist. I worked 2-3 jobs to put myself through college. I started working with my dad when I was 13.
Talk about baseless accusations!
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:21 pm
socialism. is. not. fascism.
socialism . is. not. communism.
Anyway, i don’t buy that Barack is a socialist. Hell, he’s not even as radical as most people i know!
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Tim,
You insult all mindless cogs….
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Wait…Um Cara, you don’t live in the USA any longer? No wonder you don’t care a wit if Obama triples our taxes because you won’t be suffering under his regime anyway.
Demanding the thoughts, minds and money of Americans while you wile away the time living in another country. That would be yet another reason Obama, the “Citizen of the World”, appeals to you as POTUS. You want the long arm of US resources to benefit you while you have no responsiblity to pay into those resources. Or maybe you still pay US taxes. Well….do you?
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:23 pm
get over it, Kommander. You guys thought bush was the Messiah, if you want to put it that way.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:23 pm
I looked into her eyes, and what did I see….only SKY!
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:24 pm
No, oldlefty, Rush would be, “punkinsdad”.
;-)
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Peoples, we are all brothers and sisters. Please be civil. Every one here knows as well as I do that if you forsake our leader, Obama, you indeed have racist tendencies. We will forgive this of you as this has been hung upon you by the current Amerikan system of government. Upon reedumacation, you will be assimilated.
Kommander Poopster
Socialist Baby Killer Party Of Amerikkka
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:25 pm
wow, look at the guy who hates peace and brotherhood. What DO you like? War and hatred?
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Hey, leave me outta this….
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Yes, sky, you’re correct; socialism is not fascism, which definition includes the following:
severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Have it your way: Obama is a fascist.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:27 pm
riiiiiiiiiight. And I’m a pineapple.
first you call him a socialist, then you call him a fascist… sounds to me like you just like name-calling. Why don’t you talk about the real issues?
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Have it your way: Obama is a fascist.
Posted by eddysmom
…………………………….
So he’s a fascist AND a socialist?
Far right AND far right?
Wow!
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Yea, it came to pass Comrade Sky, the rethuglicans did indeed think of Bush as their messiah. Many times, the Bush did indeed say that he was the one that we have been waiting for and promised hope and change repeatedly. The rethuglicans were both enthralled and fooled by him. And lo, it came to pass, that the Bush murdered 3000 Amerikkkans with passenger jets and used that as an excuse to murder hundreds of thousands of Iraqi’s. Once in power, we will most certainly impeach the barbarian and send the Bush to reedumaction camp. He will no longer be able to murder indiscriminately.
Kommander Poopster
Socialist Baby Killer Party Of Amerikkka
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:30 pm
okay, Kommander. So long as you’re paranoid about everyone equally. I’m cool with that.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Eddysmom,
No, I don’t live in the US anymore, I live in Brazil.
Of course it is important to me who will become president, and naturally I will feel the effects. My mother, father, brother, sisters, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, etc… all live there. I hope to receive my social security someday.
Wile away the time living in another country? Huh? What is that supposed to mean. I am working, working very hard, thank you very much.
Yes, I like the fact that both Obama AND McCain realize that the world is a bigger place than just the US, we are going to be much better off with either of them than we have been with Bush (and I’m a Texan, by the way, I have known Bush a might long time)
Yes, I certainly pay US taxes, lots and lots and lots of US taxes. The US is one of the only western countries that requires it’s expats to pay taxes (even if I live here another 30 years, I will be required to pay US taxes).
No, I don’t mind paying taxes, I consider it a civic duty. I didn’t try getting out of jury duty when I lived there. I don’t claim to be ‘Canadian’ like so many Americans who don’t want to get harassed by others when traveling abroad. I am a proud American, and a proud Texan, living and working in Brazil.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Sorry, I of course meant:
So he’s a fascist AND a socialist?
Far right AND far left?
Wow!
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Achtung!! Listen to mein Kommander….he ist korrekt! You little peoples know nutink! Ve needs der reedumations camps mit asap!
Assistant Kommander, Eva
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:33 pm
viva Um Cara! :)
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Yes, talk about the real issues. Issue on tonights plate is that Ms. Palin. Ms. Palin, who’s judgement was so flawed that she chose to birth a retarded baby (or possibly the baby of her daughter) and then accept a place on the rethuglican ticket. It is bad enough for a woman with children to think that she can serve the public and do it service, but really, so birth a retarded child rather than do the right thing and terminate the abomination. It will be interesting to see just how she will spin this tonight.
Kommander Poopster
Socialist Baby Killer Party Of Amerikkka
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:34 pm
And SKY,
“old relic”?
HARRUPMH!!
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Issues….issues….ok. Let’s start with Obama’s position on taxes. Sky, would you say that Obama’s economic policy is socialist or fascist?
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:35 pm
tough when a guy’s both far right AND far right!
LOL
(I didn’t catch that at first)
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:35 pm
well, insofar as relics can be a week or so old…
(you know what i mean)
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:36 pm
OK, Um Cara. God speed.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:37 pm
you know, i would say he’s a democrat, how about that huh?
And as much as i’m enjoying posting, i have to get home to my kid. Arrivederci, all!
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Sky, talk to people who have escaped fascism and persecution under the former Soviet Union, or as they preferred to be known, the “USSR”, which stands for the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
Lord, have mercy. I shudder when I consider the ignorance of Alan Colmes’ minions.
Posted by eddysmom
…………………………
How about those who escaped ACTUAL fascism from the Shaw’s SAVAK, Pinochet, and Nicaraguan death squads, ALL brought to you, courtesy of American right wing administrations!
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Das Palin voman, ist eine slutte, eine vortless piece of der garbage! Masse kinder, vortless Eskeemo husbant, das retard babe…..ach! Now, Obama ist der Gott!!!
Asst. Kommander, Eva
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:44 pm
The USSR Communism and the various Fascist regimes in Latin America and elsewhere should be a reminder to us all that the relatively modest social programs of the left are not communist/socialist, and the modest intrusions into personal freedoms by the right are not Fascist.
I do not agree with what I would refer to as legislating the bedroom, or legislating morality, but I would not call the efforts ‘fascist’
Clearly many on this discussion group do not agree with some of the social programs of the left, but please, they really are not ‘Socialism’.
It’s a more complex world than that.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Achtung! Uhrgent note to Kommander Poopster!!
Bitte, needs helpen mit der vood supply! Adolf has ussen alles der vood fur der ofens, und der ist not enuf fur der reedumucaton campes! Ve needs to retink dies planz asap……I tink mebe ofens not korrekt vay to go?
Asst. Kommander, Eva
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:59 pm
I find it interesting how emotional people get with these different topics. Sarah Palin is an exceptional person. For once, someone in Washington with common sense. Ask yourself why you like Obama. Leave the emotion out and see if you can make an intelligent response. Can any of you make comments without name calling or sarcasm? I don’t think obama has the experience or the intelligence to lead. He may be educated but he is not a smart man. I trust President to be McCain and V.P. Palin more than I would trust Obama or Biden. Anyone else feel that way?
September 4th, 2008 at 1:48 am
Yes I do Tedd.
September 4th, 2008 at 7:50 am
Tedd,
It’s VERY funny that if you :
“Ask yourself why you like Obama. Leave the emotion out and see if you can make an intelligent response”
You come up with:
“For once, someone in Washington with common sense.”
Obama is the most qualified BECAUSE he is intelligent and interested.
He has shown that in his policy papers, and the plans he sets forth.
McCain and Palin, on the other hand, have shown an alarming lack of knowledge, interest OR common sense in domestic and foreign affairs.
As for experience, Kenneth Lay had experience too, but I wouldn’t want him to be the head of the Department of Energy.
So far McCain and Palin have shown me that they truly are the OPPOSITE of everything they claim;
Seems to be the Republican modus operandi over the last 30 years.
September 4th, 2008 at 7:58 am
Golly, Eddysmom…I must have… how did you put it?…”Struck a nerve” with you!
M
September 4th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
My racist Aunt Agnes gets upset when people disagree with her on issues, too. Starts babbling “Fascist! Socialist! Baby-killer,” etc., because when the disparity is pointed out to her, she can’t square her Republican hate, with Christian love, with patriotism for America.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
My Leftist compassionate open-minded tolerant cousin has an all-consuming hatred of anyone who thinks differently, so in St. Paul, he went on an overpass and when a bus of Boy Scouts drive underneath, he dropped a huge chunk of concrete on the bus, hoping to eliminate, as OldLefty puts it, the infection.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
sexism is a way to humiliate and dominate woman.sexism can also be used by woman to seduce others.Last night she sarcastic and very seductive.The theme of her speech was simply a copy of “stop radical Obama” ,done by your partner. Maybe the speech was written by Sean.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
“My Leftist compassionate open-minded tolerant cousin has an all-consuming hatred of anyone who thinks differently,”
So it must run in the family, eh Vinnie?
September 4th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Vince,
Your cousin is leftist AND a lunatic, they don’t always go hand in hand (nor are hard right and lunatic synonyms).
I hope he was either arrested, or you reported him to the police? Several people were killed in Dallas 5 or 6 years ago through similar behavior, dangerous stuff.
September 4th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
My cousin is a rhetorical device.
September 4th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
I wish I had a cousin who was a rhetorical device. It would really come in handy. ;)
September 4th, 2008 at 5:09 pm