Tom Tomorrow Sums Up The Iraq War

September 3rd, 2008, 10:48 AM EDT

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  1. Tom Tomorrow is AWESOME!

    The resemblance that he can achieve with a few lines is amazing!

  2. Alan,
    You are pathetic!!
    RBJ

  3. Does he have one on why everytime Iran farts we “need to be in Iraq longer”?

  4. RBJ,

    Why don’t you go to Limbaugh’s site then?

    Is it because you have to pay for free speech there?

  5. It is all in the eyes of the beholder. Obama asking us to follow him on Health Care (see Canadians and Europeans flocking to America for it), taxing business (see business cutting benefits and salaries or all together jobs because they can not keep up with the taxes). Housing (see how he left the projects in his district in Chicago with the help of Tony Resko). Oh and the surge didn’t work! Right!

  6. OLDLEFTY,
    Your pathetic too!!

  7. Jason,

    I agree, It IS all in the eyes of the beholder.

    Re: (see Canadians and Europeans flocking to America for it),
    The VERY , VERY best care that the very rich can afford is what has people comming here for.

    For average people why THIS trend??

    From http://www.eagletribune.com/pulife/local_story_331094637

    “She’s a rodeo barrel-racing champion who runs a 180-acre ranch in Oklahoma when she’s not bouncing across back roads selling farms. Dodie Gilmore is a spry 60-year-old who loves the outdoors, but when she could no longer straddle her faithful horse, River, she knew it was time for a new hip.

    But how could she afford it? As an independent contractor for a small Coldwell Banker real estate franchise in Durant, Okla., she knew her privately purchased health plan would never pay up to $40,000 for the operation.

    So she asked her boss about traveling to India where hip resurfacing would cost just $7,000. He not only gave his blessing, but offered to foot the bill, minus travel and hotels – making Gilmore one of the very first Americans sent overseas for surgery by an employer.

    “The doctors were wonderful,” Gilmore said days after being discharged, sipping coffee at a New Delhi, India cafe with her sister, Carol, who accompanied her. “The overall care was pretty darn good.”

    Google it, there’s LOTS more.

    Businesses NOW are outsourcing jobs to China,and Dubai, because there are no tariffs on imports, and they make HUGE profits.

    Resko is nothing:
    Obama bought land at fair market value, and was not implicated in ANYTHING…

    Bush’s associations are MUCH more troubling:

    The Bush family’s connections to the bin Ladin family, and the Bin Ladin Group were much much more important.
    Bush Jr sells his shares of Harkin energy to Salem bin Ladin, Bush Sr watching 9/11 with Shafig bin Ladin (both Osama’s brothers), at the Ritz Carlton, Saudi Prince Bandar nicknamed Bandar Bush by the president’s mother: Imagine if we had seen endless loops of that for the 04 election?

    Can’t be because this is a powerful, white, old moneyed family, can it?

    And the “surge” worked, so well (after ethnic cleansing and 5 million refugees left,),that al Sadr is in Iran, training to be the new Ayatollah of Iraq, and Ahmadenijad is treated with honor while Bush/Cheney have to sneak in and out.

    Oh, and Maliki AND Bush are following Obama’s lead on withdrawal.

  8. War is not funny Alan. Seems again you have veered again from your core values.

  9. So when we FINALLY DO pull out of Iraq, lets sit all the warmongers at a big table. Bush, Cheney, even dig up Rummy. Now give them all a sheet of paper and a #2 pencil.
    Now boys, on one side of the paper write all the GOOD that came out of this war. Now on the other side write all the BAD.
    These papers will be posted in the newspapers of major cities to be graded by the American people.

    Now…..on to our next war.

    Posted by 4 MONTHS 2 GO
    September 3rd, 2008 at 1:00 pm
  10. What are you doing playing school? That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. From a loyal democrat and I don’t play school games.

  11. RBJ:
    From your posts above, I suspect you are NOT a loyal democrat but a plant for the republicans.

  12. A Viewer, when it comes to Iraq, much of American is laughing to keep from crying. Crying about what YOUR administration did.

  13. I don’t do anything for anyone I have just lived a long time and am a free thinker. I don’t follow people because it’s a fad I think for myself. I would never do anything for any other party especially the republicans. This game playing to me is stupid. Here we are with four hurricans off the coast of Florida gas is $4.00 a gallon our economy is in the tank house prices are falling like a rock and you are playing games. So Toro don’t tell me what I am or are NOT.

  14. RBJ:
    I agree with you. Katrina was a FEMA disaster, we have our own government spying on us, we are spending trillions on a useless war (not to mention the cost of human life), unemployment is skyrocketing, and gas is up to $4.00/gallon.

    Yes, I’m also tired of playing games, but this crap has got to stop. And since McCain backs George Bush every chance he gets, the better choice of the two candidates, I think, is Obama.

  15. TDRO,
    I agree with everything you just said but one thing I don’t understand. What does our own government spying on us mean? You lost me on that one.

  16. I guess you leftist scum are pissed that your al-Qaeda proxies are LOSING!!!

    If you hate this country so much (and I WILL question your patriotism, because it’s obvious you aren’t patriotic at all), why don’t you live in the mohammedan crapholes of your choice? You and them have so much in common: You hate Christians, you hate women, you hate free speech, you hate the United States and Israel…so go live in Gaza already and spare the rest of us your idiocy!

    Posted by Matthew Quigley
    September 3rd, 2008 at 3:27 pm
  17. RBJ:
    Here is the post:

    http://www.truthout.org/article/jason-leopold-bush-authorized-domestic-spying-before-911

    George Bush has been spying on Americans illegally since 2001. He has asked Verizon and AT&T to listen into civilian phone calls without a warrant (which is illegal).

  18. “You hate Christians, you hate women, you hate free speech, you hate the United States and Israel…so go live in Gaza already and spare the rest of us your idiocy!”

    You just don’t have a clue what it means to be an American.

    “…see Canadians and Europeans flocking to America for [health care]”

    Apparently you’re employed by a health care provider and that’s why you’re claiming we can’t do things better than the Canadians or the Europeans. Typical radical rightist anti-American crap.

    “Your pathetic too!!”

    How pathetic is it to call someone pathetic when you don’t even have your grammar right? It just boggles the mind.

    Posted by Rocky the Liberal Rottweiler
    September 3rd, 2008 at 3:40 pm
  19. Hello Jason,

    I just happened to pop in out of curiosity and I never intended to contribute to such a high brow discussion, but I felt duty bound to point out you are speaking utter bollocks when it comes to Europeans coming to the US for health care.

    Quite frankly, the US is a joke and an embarrassment when it comes to public health care. If I were ill there is absolutely no way that I’d ever contemplate coming to your fine country.

    In the UK we’ve had free health care since after WW2. I can go anywhere in the European Union and fall ill and know I will be treated entirely free of charge. We believe that health care is a basic human right and not something restricted to people with lots of money. To say that Europeans come to the US for health care is like saying people go to the sahara for swimming.

  20. Bless you, Britboy. Drink a pint for me.

    Sad thing is, I’ve experienced European healthcare before, and it makes me utterly pissed off at all these idiots in the USA who discount it as some sort of political quagmire.

    So much for the sanctity of Life.

  21. Concerning European style healthcare:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/canada.asp

  22. It refers to Canadian healthcare, but I’m assuming its system has parallels to European ones.

  23. WGF:
    I’ve read your post. The man fails to mention that if he becomes ill, he can go to any hospital and be treated without worrying about whether he’ll lose his house trying to pay the medical bills.

  24. And Britboy, you are absolutely correct. the US is a joke and an embarrassment when it comes to public health care.

  25. I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah
    since 1992. Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing
    special to say we are on a first-name basis. Our
    children have attended the same schools. Her father was
    my child’s favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a
    first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I
    attended more City Council meetings during her
    administration than about 99% of the residents of the
    city.

    She is enormously popular; in every way she’s like the
    most popular girl in middle school. Even men who think
    she is a poor choice and won’t vote for her can’t quit
    smiling when talking about her because she is a “babe”.

    It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can
    keep a secret. She kept her most recent pregnancy a
    secret from her children and parents for seven months.

    She is “pro-life”. She recently gave birth to a Down’s
    syndrome baby. There is no cover-up involved, here;
    Trig is her baby.

    She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked
    out at the gym.

    She is savvy. She doesn’t take positions; she just
    “puts things out there” and if they prove to be
    popular, then she takes credit.

    Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP
    and is a champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin’s kind
    of job is highly sought-after because of the schedule
    and high pay. He arranges his work schedule so he can
    fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or so in
    summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing
    their major source of income. Nor has her life-style
    ever been anything like that of native Alaskans.

    Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters.

    She’s smart.

    Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population
    of about 5,000 (at the time), and less than 2 years as
    governor of a state with about 670,000 residents.

    During her mayoral administration most of the actual
    work of running this small city was turned over to an
    administrator. She had been pushed to hire this
    administrator by party power-brokers after she had
    gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous
    firings which had given rise to a recall campaign.

    Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”.
    During her 6 years as Mayor, she increased general
    government expenditures by over 33%. During those same
    6 years the amount of taxes collected by the City
    increased by 38%. This was during a period of low
    inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property
    taxes and increased a regressive sales tax which taxed
    even food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefited
    large corporate property owners way more than they
    benefited residents.

    The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral
    administration weren’t enough to fund everything on her
    wish list though, borrowed money was needed, too. She
    inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with
    indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin
    encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the
    infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage
    treatment plant that the city lacked? or a new library?
    No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a
    multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to
    build on a piece of property that the City didn’t even
    have clear title to, that was still in litigation 7 yrs
    later–to the delight of the lawyers involved! The
    sports complex itself is a nice addition to the
    community but a huge money pit, not the profit-
    generator she claimed it would be. She also supported
    bonds for $5.5m for road projects that could have been
    done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.

    While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and
    her office redecorated more than once.

    These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small
    city.

    As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a
    budget surplus in Alaska. Rather than invest this
    surplus in technology that will make us energy
    independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she
    proposed distribution of this surplus to every
    individual in the state.

    In this time of record state revenues and budget
    surpluses, she recommended that the state borrow/bond
    for road projects, even while she proposed distribution
    of surplus state revenues: spend today’s surplus,
    borrow for needs.

    She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open
    to outside ideas or compromise. As Mayor, she fought
    ideas that weren’t generated by her or her staff. Ideas
    weren’t evaluated on their merits, but on the basis of
    who proposed them.

    While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our
    highly respected City Librarian because the Librarian
    refused to consider removing from the library some
    books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents rallied
    to the defense of the City Librarian and against
    Palin’s attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin
    backed down and withdrew her termination letter. People
    who fought her attempt to oust the Librarian are on her
    enemies list to this day.

    Sarah complained about the “old boy’s club” when she
    first ran for Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A
    new set of “old boys”. Palin fired most of the
    experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as
    Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced,
    obscure people, creating a staff totally dependent on
    her for their jobs and eternally grateful and fiercely
    loyal–loyal to the point of abusing their power to
    further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged
    happened in the case of pressuring the State’s top cop
    (see below).

    As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla’s Police Chief because he
    “intimidated” her, she told the press. As Governor, her
    recent firing of Alaska’s top cop has the ring of
    familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure and she
    had every legal right to fire him, but it’s pretty
    clear that an important factor in her decision to fire
    him was because he wouldn’t fire her sister’s ex-
    husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation for abuse
    of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen
    contacts were made between her staff and family to the
    person that she later fired, pressuring him to fire her
    ex-brother-in- law. She tried to replace the man she
    fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded for
    sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she
    withdrew her support.

    She has bitten the hand of every person who extended
    theirs to her in help. The City Council person who
    personally escorted her around town introducing her to
    voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council
    became one of her first targets when she was later
    elected Mayor. She abruptly fired her loyal City
    Administrator; even people who didn’t like the guy were
    stunned by this ruthlessness.

    Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from
    saying anything publicly about her.

    When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political
    plums, Sarah got the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and
    Gas Conservation Commission: one of the few jobs not in
    Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no background
    in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this
    great job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining
    in the press about the high salary. I was told that she
    hated that job: the commute, the structured hours, the
    work. Sarah became aware that a member of this
    Commission (who was also the State Chair of the
    Republican Party) engaged in unethical behavior on the
    job. In a gutsy move which some undoubtedly cautioned
    her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all her
    problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she
    hated and garnered gobs of media attention as the
    patron saint of ethics and as a gutsy fighter against
    the “old boys’ club” when she dramatically quit,
    exposing this man’s ethics violations (for which he was
    fined).

    As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone
    for pork from Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has
    castigated his pork-barrel politics and publicly
    humiliated him. She only opposed the “bridge to
    nowhere” after it became clear that it would be unwise
    not to.

    As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and
    budget guidelines, then made a big grandstand display
    of line-item vetoing projects, calling them pork.
    Public outcry and further legislative action restored
    most of these projects–which had been vetoed simply
    because she was not aware of their importance– but
    with the unobservant she had gained a reputation as
    “anti-pork”.

    She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The
    State party leaders hate her because she has bit them
    in the back and humiliated them. Other members of the
    party object to her self-description as a fiscal
    conservative.

    Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school
    with Sarah. They call her “Sarah Barracuda” because of
    her unbridled ambition and predatory ruthlessness.
    Before she became so powerful, very ugly stories
    circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to
    be made point guard on the high school basketball team.
    When Sarah’s mother-in-law, a highly respected member
    of the community and experienced manager, ran for
    Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.

    As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put
    together of package of legislation known as “AGIA” that
    forced the oil companies to march to the beat of her
    drum.

    Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic
    National Wildlife Refuge. She has questioned if the
    loss of sea ice is linked to global warming. She
    campaigned “as a private citizen” against a state
    initiative that would have either a) protected salmon
    streams from pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the
    courts all mining in the state (depending on who you
    listen to). She has pushed the State’s lawsuit against
    the Dept. of the Interior’s decision to list polar
    bears as threatened species.

    McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President;
    Sarah will be a heartbeat away from being President.

    There has to be literally millions of Americans who are
    more knowledgeable and experienced than she.

    However, there’s a lot of people who have
    underestimated her and are regretting it.

    CLAIM VS FACT

    *”Hockey mom”: true for a few years

    *”PTA mom”: true years ago when her first-born was in
    elementary school, not since

    *”NRA supporter”: absolutely true

    *social conservative: True. Opposes gay marriage, and
    voted in a bill to deny benefits to
    employees in same-sex relationships (said she did this
    because it was constitutional) .

    *pro-creationism: True. Supports it, and did everything
    as Governor to promote it.

    *”Pro-life”: True. Knowingly gave birth to a Down’s
    syndrome baby.

    *”Experienced”: Some high schools have more students
    than Wasilla has residents. Many cities have more
    residents than the state of Alaska. No legislative
    experience other than City Council. Little hands-on
    supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a
    city administrator to run town of about 5,000.

    *political maverick: not at all

    *gutsy: absolutely!

    *open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not
    good at explaining actions.

    *has a developed philosophy of public policy: no

    *”a Greenie”: no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of
    big box stores and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-
    drilling off-shore and in ANWR.

    *fiscal conservative: not by my definition!

    *pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and
    park in a city without a sewage treatment plant or
    storm drainage system. Built streets to early 20th
    century standards.

    *pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses,
    increased tax burden on residents

    *pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion
    of city government in Wasilla’s history.

    *pro-labor/pro- union. No. Just because her husband
    works union doesn’t make her pro-labor. I have seen
    nothing to support any claim that she is pro-labor/pro-
    union.

    WHY AM I WRITING THIS?

    First, I have long believed in the importance of being
    an informed voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years
    I put on student voting programs in the schools. If you
    google my name (Anne Kilkenny + Alaska), you will find
    references to my participation in local government,
    education, and PTA/parent organizations.

    Secondly, I’ve always operated in the belief that “Bad
    things happen when good people stay silent”. Few people
    know as much as I do because few have gone to as many
    City Council meetings.

    Third, I am just a housewife. I don’t have a job she
    can bump me out of. I don’t belong to any organization
    that she can hurt. But, I am no fool; she is immensely
    popular here, and it is likely that this will cost me
    somehow in the future: that’s life.

    Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was
    one of the 100 or so people who rallied to support the
    City Librarian against Sarah’s attempt at censorship.

    Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else
    was afraid to say anything because they were somehow
    vulnerable.

    CAVEATS

    I am not a statistician. I developed the numbers for
    the increase in spending & taxation 2 years ago (when
    Palin was running for Governor) from information
    supplied to me by the Finance Director of the City of
    Wasilla, and I can’t recall exactly what I adjusted
    for: did I adjust for inflation? for population
    increases? Right now, it is impossible for a private
    person to get any info out of City Hall–they are
    swamped. So I can’t verify my numbers.

    You may have noticed that there are various numbers
    circulating for the population of Wasilla, ranging from
    my “about 5,000″, up to 9,000. The day Palin’s
    selection was announced a city official told me that
    the current population is about 7,000. The official
    2000 census count was 5,460. I have used about 5,000
    because Palin was Mayor from 1996 to 2002, and the city
    was growing rapidly in the mid-90’s.

    Posted by Anne Kilkenny
    September 4th, 2008 at 12:56 am
  26. That’s a very interesting and very scary post Anne. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

    You should let more people know what she’s really like before it’s too late.

  27. I LOVE Tom Tomorrow!!!!