Who’s The Elitist?

September 4th, 2008, 6:45 PM EDT

Republicans love to portray Obama in particular and Democrats in general as elitists.   But take a look at garb on the current first lady and her would-be successor from Wednesday night’s festivities:



Laura Bush
Oscar de la Renta suit: $2,500
Stuart Weitzman heels: $325
Pearl stud earrings: $600-$1,500
Total: Between $3,425 and $4,325

 

Cindy McCain
Oscar de la Renta dress: $3,000
Chanel J12 White Ceramic Watch: $4,500
Three-carat diamond earrings: $280,000
Four-strand pearl necklace: $11,000-$25,000
Shoes, designer unknown: $600
Total: Between $299,100 and $313,100


Laura Bush’s outlay for the outfit was much more modest, I’ll grant you.  But do they realize there are families without Oscar de la Renta suits in Bangladesh?  In some third-world countries there are even women without diamond-encrusted earrings.

Responses to this post...

  1. At least they weren’t wearing sunglasses encrusted with diamonds with a name on them.

  2. Being wealthy does not mean one is elitist. Democrats are the ones that hate wealth, not republicans. We want everyone to be wealthy. That is the difference between democrats and republicans. The democrat elite want the “people’s wealth” and want everyone else to be poor and dependent on their programs.

    You know, you really are an idiot.

  3. I suppose your next post will include a comparison with the outfits sported by the annoited spouse and the other partygoers at the DNC? Oops, sorry, I forgot, application of a single standard is outlawed in liberal wonderland….Congrats, this is a new low in pettiness.

  4. You know what I’m struck by… Nothing positive comes from Alan.

    It’s all attacking other people.. all the time.

  5. This class warfare that Alan promotes is probably a good reason there is a prohibition against something as seemingly-trivial as jealousy in the 10 commandments.

  6. Vince,

    Funny you should state that Alan never says anything positive.

    I challenge you to say three things positive about the United States (the current United States, not pre 1930 United States).

    Not putting you on the spot, and I’m sure you can do it. I just think it would cheer you up a little bit to think of a few good things about the US. For bonus points, say something nice about Obama ; )

  7. This just shows you what a shallow little nothing Colmes is. It’s really kinda creepy!

  8. EVERYTHING that the Republicans say is the opposite of the truth:

    They talk about “elites”, but it doesn’t get more elite than those who have their personal fortunes tied up in the industries that benefit from the VERY foreign policy that THEY get to make.

    The right wing corporate media moguls profit from the ‘moral decay’ on TV and movies, then profit from the right wing gasbags bloviating about the same ‘moral decay’.

    They cheat, divorce, use hookers, and tap around in men’s rooms while lecturing the rest of us about ‘family values.’

    They talk about ‘supporting the troops’, but they spare tax cuts for the millionaires and billionaires or welfare money for their corporate cronies, to adequately fund them, cut their VA benefits, and let the disgrace of Walter Reed happen on their watch.

    They talk about ‘patriotism’, but they hate every American who takes their duty as a citizen to be very, very skeptical about those to whom we give such great power, seriously.

  9. GO. A. WAY.
    Why are all you Colmes haters here? Go to your own crazy right-wing websites.
    Alan rocks!!

  10. It’s simple to find positive things to say about America.

    America is a demostration of what is possible when men of faith rule themselves in a system of Liberty. Anything is possible.

    Until eventually a time comes of great complancy and wealth and the Worst Generation (the Boomers) decide to destroy the foundations and heritage of the Nation.

  11. I wonder who the next women will be who Alan who offers up for public hate.

    It’s like 1984 and the 5 minute hate here.

    Cmon Oldlefy.. don’t you see Goldstein?

  12. Uh oh, they said the word Jihadi at the Republican Convention… all the leftists are going to be upset now.

  13. “GO. A. WAY.
    Why are all you Colmes haters here? Go to your own crazy right-wing websites.
    Alan rocks!!”

    Why do you hate diversity?

  14. Vince,

    Come on man, it’s possible to see and say the good without throwing in an insult to an entire generation at the end..

    - McCain is a true American hero in an age when the word is thrown around loosely
    - Palin seems to have a strong family, and it is impressive to see the positive way she is supporting her daughter
    - The United States developed and used military might to stand up to true evil in WWII, and was morally strong enough to resist the temptation to keep territory (ala Russia) after victory

  15. Not you, Vince, just all the invaders that showed up over the Palin thing. they’re just here to fill up the threads with their angry rhetoric, and it’s getting tiresome.

  16. Funny isn’t it… how when the number of Leftists increase, every thing starts to get all angry and disruptive..

    “About a year into MSNBC’s strategy of refashioning itself into the network for Bush haters, some consequences are starting to emerge for the cable channel and its corporate parent NBC.

    Internally, the lurch to the left has resulted in numerous outbreaks of hostility as the remains of the old guard fight to protect themselves and the token conservatives find themselves increasingly marginalized.”

  17. SKY,

    I can see you are frustrated – I got that way yesterday after an endless conversation where everyone was trying to convince me that Obama is a socialist without providing any evidence, then getting mad that I was not convinced by them saying ‘he wants to redistribute wealth’ without any examples of what they meant. (Vince was the lone exception, by the way, he did back up his thoughts with a couple examples).

    I gotta say, I like the positive way you engage those you disagree with though SKY. And admit it, it is more interesting to talk w/ folks who don’t agree with you all the time!

    I agree that Alan is really good – he does his best to engage in actual conversations, challenges people to back up their blanket statements, and is pretty funny. I disagree with him on a few things (the biggest current thing I disagree with is his response to Russia invading Georgia).

  18. sky: ok. thanks.

    You know, I would apologize to cheryl if asked

  19. More positives:
    America is a place where you can say what’s on your mind, where good used bookstores abound, and where everyone enjoys ice cream on a hot day.

  20. It’s like 1984 and the 5 minute hate here.

    Cmon Oldlefy.. don’t you see Goldstein?
    …………………………….

    People on the left have called the Rush Limbaugh show The Three Hour Hate, for as long as I can remember.

    “I wonder who the next women will be who Alan who offers up for public hate.”
    ……………………………..

    You mean like the cons did to Hillary for 16 years Chelsea Clinton, Michelle Obama, Cindy Sheehan, the ‘Jersey Girls’, the Dixie Chicks, and Nancy Pelosi?

    You mean like that?

  21. Yeah, I do like to engage folks… I just get the feeling that a lot of these guys aren’t here for conversation, but just to make their own point…

    And Vince, kudos, then. :)

  22. “It’s simple to find positive things to say about America.”
    ………………………………….

    This is VERY true.
    That is why we have to be vigilant and not lose them.

    And don’t confuse America with Republicans.
    I find that often when they say, “Liberals hate America”, they refer to criticisms of Republican policies, NOT the principles of America.

  23. You don’t mention how much their underware cost? Did you hack into their American Express accounts? You sound like some deranged “panty-sniffer”!

  24. The convention just showed a little movie that is a bio of Sarah Palin.

    She is a great woman. She was just a regular person like us .. She joined the PTA to be involved with her kids education, and then didn’t like what the town was doing , so she set out to run for office to fix it.

    And then she ran into the entrenched corrupt politician who she fiercely fought.

    And she kept on fighting corruption.. as high as she could find it, no matter who was doing it.

    And now she is asked to be Vice President of the United States.

    I think that is a remarkable and inspiring story.

    This is why I love America and so many others do.

    (And that is why Alan is a prick)

  25. You know who really cares about this sssssss, Hey Sarah Palin RULES hope she wears fur outfit from an Moose !!!!!!!! she is a real American God Bless America and Sarah and her wonderful family !!!!!

  26. Vince,

    Alan engages people from all sides in real conversations, I’m not sure why you would insult him in that way. He has spoken very respectfully about McCain, he very strongly disagrees with Palin’s stance on a number of issues (as do I, most certainly) and points that out, but I haven’t heard him be a ‘prick’ about her.

    I’m sure you guys disagree on most things. I am sure there are things I disagree on with every poster on this blog, and every person on earth. But we don’t have to insult each other.

    Palin has some admirable qualities, but she definitely is not someone I want to be president, because of her politics.

  27. There is NOTHING “impressive” at all about Sarah Palin, as a mother !
    I am completely appalled at her leaving ALL of her children so soon for WORK (In around the mid-late ’90s, she becomes mayor of Wasilla. Her children at the time were 9, 7, 4, and then gives birth to Piper in 2001- So, did she DESERT those very YOUNG children to run back to her office duties after Piper’s BIRTH, also??)

    And WHY on earth did this freak of a woman KEEP HER 5TH PREGNANCY A SECRET , FROM HER OWN PARENTS AND 4 CHILDREN, FOR A WHOPPING 7 MONTHS???????
    Was she that embarassed about NOT having a “normal” baby?? That is HORRIBLE!
    Maybe this was SUPPOSED to be some sort of wake-up call for Palin?? But NO! Because she DESERTED her own NEWBORN (tragically born with Down Syndrome) just after 3 days !! Did she hate looking at that poor innocent child?
    Palin is an overly-ambitious, bitter, vicious JERK with a haggard shrill voice that makes one cringe and Crow’s Feet galore (LOL). BTW, her Walmart Diner-waitress LOOK must go. Those BIFOCALED eyes are scary and crazy looking too!

  28. Vince,

    Read Winter’s post, compare that to Alan’s tone, can’t you see that Alan is a pretty reasonable guy, just with strong opinions that are different than yours?

    Winter,
    Yecch, what a bunch of judgmental, horrible, mean spirited things to say.

  29. “And WHY on earth did this freak of a woman KEEP HER 5TH PREGNANCY A SECRET , FROM HER OWN PARENTS AND 4 CHILDREN, FOR A WHOPPING 7 MONTHS”???????

    Freak of a woman?? Well isn’t that “Special” !

  30. UC: Isn’t it amazing what folks like winter could write?

    Yeah.. I could write a good insult. but nothing like that sort of thing… maybe i’ll call someone traitor if i’m really annoyed..

    but i really wonder about the mental stablity of these people who get so worked up and demonic.

    i dont remember this 10 years ago.. i wonder if ADD Meds/Antidepresants/etc.. has any role.

    blah. Alan isn’t much better because he has the national reach.. and what does he do.. he subjects a 17 year old to public humiliation.

    Just imagine if he did that to her in person… no one would stand for it.

  31. I think you’re a freak Bret.

    What destablizes Bret is that Sarah is a Christian.

    What amuses me is when I speak out againt Islamic cliterectomies, I get attacked as a hater, racist, etc..

    Yet you all are more than content to allow the most vicisious and person attacks to go by wihtout your righteous indigination.

    So I wonder.. for you hypocrites on the Left.. for the things you find to be wrong which ones do you not give yourselves total impunity as long as it’s one of you who do it.

  32. UC is the sole exception and has my respect for that.

  33. Vince,

    I haven’t heard him subject her to public humiliation, if I detect that – I *promise* to call him out on it.

    I hope everyone stops talking about her, to tell you the truth, but I do think it is possible to talk about her in certain ways, without it being humiliation. But, sincerely, I will listen closely for it going over the line in his future shows.

    Regarding Winter – hopefully she/he is just a troll looking to stir up controversy and doesn’t really believe that post. If it is a true post, I pity her, the inside of Winter’s head is not a place I would want to be.

  34. I had no idea about Cindy McCain’s full bio beyond the family company.. she is a great woman too.

    Wow..

    Alan is pathological.

  35. Man, I get tired of all this talk about WAR, WAR,WAR at the Republican Convention.Do they have an obsession with WAR and do they care about anything else? Did anyone see the DOW today? Hear about the high unemployment rates? No, the Republicans just want to talk about the HANOI HILTON again,or maybe they can threaten Iran one more time?
    In 1992 Admiral Stockdale was thought a KOOK by everyone. Mccain reminds me some of the Ol’ Admiral.

  36. …and both look the the south end of a north bound moose!

  37. Harry sounds perfect for the 1930s.

    You can’t hide from war.

  38. We don’t have to look for it as the solution to so many problems either, Vince.

    Every tool in our toolbox does not have to be a hammer.

    Remember, McCain said ‘In the 21st century countries don’t invade other countries’

  39. Alan – How much do you spend on Suits, ties and Personal care to go on air? Also lets not forget that all of those items are a tax deduction for you being an on – air personality. To Be Fair and un biased ( WHICH YOU ARE NOT) How about a Similar cost Analysis on Michelle Obama and Mrs. Bidens Attire including personal jewelry. Its already been established that The Obamas are struggling to make ends meet with $4 million a year income, so much so they can’t help there own family in Kenya…… So whats your point again?

  40. Furrypuss,

    Alan has never claimed to be unbiased, it would be pretty hard to get a job as a talk show host if you were unbiased. What is your point again?

  41. Winter-
    I agree, I found it very odd that she kept her last pregnancy a secret from her entire family for 7 months. I mean, she certainly has the right to do that – but it’s just freaking weird. What purpose did that serve?

    Also, when giving that speech last night she mentioned about being an advocate for special needs children. But ironically, right after becoming the Gov of Alaska she cut funding for children with special needs 62%.

  42. Cindy McCain
    Oscar de la Renta dress: $3,000
    Chanel J12 White Ceramic Watch: $4,500
    Three-carat diamond earrings: $280,000
    Four-strand pearl necklace: $11,000-$25,000
    Shoes, designer unknown: $600
    Total: Between $299,100 and $313,100
    __________________________________________
    Where exactly did you get these numbers? Do you even know if the jewelry is Real?
    Do you even know when the jewelry was purchased?
    Do you know if the jewelry was loaned, as hollywood Celebrities do all the time?
    Have you done a cost analysis of the Money Nancy Pelosi spent on her Paris Bought Wardrobe?

  43. UC: I found out Alan lied about the Sarah saying the war was a “task from God”

    I knew there was something wrong with that.

    Alan’s deceptive version:

    “Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God,” she said. “That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God’s plan.”

    The real version:

    “Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God,” she exhorted the congregants. “That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.”

    I knew something wasn’t right about this… and I was right.

    Click on my name for the source. Notice he borrowed the picture too.

  44. I wouldn’t believe anything this guy puts here.

  45. Vince, you moron, how do you figure that’s NOT what she said?

    You can’t read?

    Oh wait…didn’t you say that Sarah spoke without a teleprompter?

    That’s a lie BTW.

  46. This Is What Elitist Looks Like…

    Via Vanity Fair… The Grand Duchess of Elitism, Cindy McCain, on stage at the RHC with Laura Bush:
    Cindy McCain
    Oscar de la Renta dress: $3,000
    Chanel J12 White Ceramic Watch: $4,500
    Three-carat diamond earrings: $280,000
    Four-strand pearl neckla…

  47. I refuse to accept that people are too stupid that they can’t see the obvious manipulation he did.

    Really.. if you’re stumped, I’m not the moron.

  48. Umm, Alan, as usual your foot jumped right into your big mouth…yet again.
    Do you know Jimmy Choo? Because Michelle Obama certainly does.She is very very familiar with him….
    And ,Alan…why be so coy?
    Don’t you want to share all the info about the “diamond collection that Michelle Obama is really, really proud of”?
    Isn’t that kinda creepy on so many levels? Diamonds are mostly mined by slaves……IN AFRICA…and guess what? Hers aren’t Canadian diamonds…tsk tsk tsk..
    And this screamingly amusing line:
    “Four-strand pearl necklace: $11,000-$25,000″
    I’m glad vicious-gossip-boy could narrow it down for us…so where did you get your stats Colmes?
    Alan even though you gossip and fight like a girl you certainly don’t know anything about pearls, or much else for that matter.
    But the main point is this: republicans want everyone to be wealthy if they want to be. While democrats are constantly playing the class warfare card…so who are really the hypocrites here?
    The America hating Obama’s in their expensive suits, dresses,shoes and diamonds [that she has been very careful not to wear] or the republicans?
    It’s a simple answer, but sadly for you it involves honesty so I know you can’t answer it…..
    But on another point…Alan have you told your followers about the time you referred to Hillary Clinton on the radio in very unflattering and childish [to say the least] terms?
    I believe it involved a “rectum”???
    Please do share oh great arbiter of all that is good and right….

    “Laura Bush
    Oscar de la Renta suit: $2,500
    Stuart Weitzman heels: $325
    Pearl stud earrings: $600-$1,500
    Total: Between $3,425 and $4,325

    Cindy McCain
    Oscar de la Renta dress: $3,000
    Chanel J12 White Ceramic Watch: $4,500
    Three-carat diamond earrings: $280,000
    Four-strand pearl necklace: $11,000-$25,000
    Shoes, designer unknown: $600
    Total: Between $299,100 and $313,100′
    **But having followers who are too vulgar and ignorant to know when to shut up?**
    PRICELESS…….

  49. Alan maybe the next time you speak you should go to the dictionary first. An elitist has nothing to do with clothing.
    I have a pair of $600.00 earings that my husband gave me…does that make me an elitist? My wedding gown also cost $3,000.00. I’m middle class that works hard for my money and will spend it as I see fit. If you had your way I would share? I also give a lot on money to charity. Does all this make me an elitist?
    You are implying things again. Is that all you can do is bash people? My husband and I make less than 200 thousand a year is that an elitist? Definition of an elitist out of the dictionary below. I wonder how much Obama’s wife spends on her clothing? Did you ever check that? I don’t think she shops ay Walmart.

    1. practice of or belief in rule by an elite.
    2. consciousness of or pride in belonging to a select or favored group.

    The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.

    The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.
    Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.
    someone who believes in rule by an elite group

  50. Why does Alan persist in promoting class-warfare? Jealousy? I thought part of the American dream is to better one’s life. I didn’t hear him say anything about what the women were wearing at the DNC. Alan has lost any respect as a commentor I had for him.

    Posted by disgusted in california
    September 5th, 2008 at 10:37 am
  51. I think this is just delicious–Is the little green eyed monster invading Alan???I believe that Alan’s wife is a classy lady that doesn’t judge people by the clothes they wear. I make this assumption because of her photos and work and books and her sister Monica Crowley.

  52. Seems like McCain is the one struggling with funds for his campaign while Obama is rolling in it. But of course liberals have a “special interest” in making history so all the “poor democrats” (Kennedys, etc) are throwing money at him. The Obama’s have lived a poor and victimized life. (maybe that is why Michele is so bitter) America was not so good enough to her. (with that free Princeton education, and she wrote that nice thank you letter at the end) At least the Bush’s earned their wealth. You know, with a JOB!

    Posted by TeenMom/No welfare
    September 5th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
  53. Seems like McCain is the one struggling with funds for his campaign while Obama is rolling in it. But of course liberals have a “special interest” in making history so all the “poor democrats” (Kennedys, etc) are throwing money at him. The Obama’s have lived a poor and victimized life. (maybe that is why Michele is so bitter) America was not good enough to her. (with that free Princeton education, and she wrote that nice thank you letter at the end) At least the Bush’s earned their wealth. You know, with a JOB!

    Posted by TeenMom/No welfare
    September 5th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
  54. Oh I see, Obama’s “community organizing” was rallying and monopolizing on the black population. Registering them to vote by the thousands to better himself (oh sorry, I meant themselves). How about going out and making them finish school and go to college (for free)? Because they can, thanks to all the benefits they get as minorities! It is their choice! Wake up Black America, you are being used. Democrats are keeping you poor, sick and uneducated so you can’t figure out whats going on. Go to Larry Elder’s web-site and please investigate what the Left has REALLY done for your culture. (Or better yet get with Bill Cosby). Obama is no Martin Luther King (what an insult to Martin). You will get more of the same with him. Poverty, unwed mothers at an all time high, and over 70% high school drop out rate for your young black males. Sounds like nothing is getting better! The more free stuff you give people, the more invaluable it becomes no matter the color of skin. Don’t be a victim! You know in your heart, Alan, Obama is WRIGHT! (And you say McCain is Bush????)

    Posted by Marine Mom
    September 5th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
  55. Marine Mom,

    How exactly is Obama supposed to ‘make’ someone finish school and go to college? Many parents are unable to do that with their own children, and yet you somehow think Obama has this power over kids not even his own?

    You must think him mighty powerful indeed!

    (And 70% of young black males don’t drop out of school, unless you are talking about some specific city or school somewhere? What are you talking about with that statistic?)

  56. Hey Teen Mom– how are you making it? Mommy and daddy?

    Marine Mom– “Poverty, unwed mothers at an all time high, and over 70% high school drop out rate for your young black males.”

    Uh, did you get that our economy was wrecked during Bush’s administration of “tax cuts,” Bush’s abstinence-only education funding backfired (ahem, Bristol Palin!), and Alaska’s drop-out rate is one of the highest in the country?

    And you’re seriously advocating for the party responsible for all you abhor?

  57. MARINE MOM,
    You hit that one right out of the park…how right you are! Alan are you paying attention?

  58. What a relief to see these beautiful womwn in dresses!
    Better than Hillary showing up in an orange pants suit–looking like a giant Cheeto

  59. typical leftist thoughts
    what is theirs is mine
    what is mine is mine

  60. Al….”giant cheeto”…now that is funny…heh heh heh
    good shot……..

  61. My how petty, when are you going to break down the cost of the wardrobes worn by the Dems????? Some one said it before, I doubt Mrs. Obama shops at WalMart. Kmart perhaps……yea right!!

  62. Winter, why don’t you go back and hibernate??

  63. I think it is poetic justice that Sarah Pal-insane’s Karma found her.

    She cannot be bothered raising her 5 kids and now she has this astronomical tragedy – a Down Syndrome baby.

    Well, everybody that baby is Sarah’s lifelong responsibility and it clearly has made her bitter. In People Mag she says “I didn’t think I could ever embrace a Special Needs Down Syndrome child”
    How sad.

    Palin looks like Andrea Yates meets Anita Bryant. A scary look indeed.

    Posted by Sarah runs back to hide in Alaska now
    September 5th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
  64. PALIN IS A DISGRACE OF A MOM, LEAVING A NEWBORN BABY?

    MOMS ALL OVER SHOULD BE MORTIFIED. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM SARAH AND TODD- 2 UNEDUCATED OAFS BASICALLY.

    Posted by PALINS A K A BAD PARENTS
    September 5th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
  65. To Sarah runs back to hide…How disturbed and delusional your mind must be……….

    Posted by californian mom
    September 5th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
  66. California Mom needs to get a visit from DSS(she probably already has !)
    I agree that Palin is a neglectful mother you fool, Palin the “disturbed” one. And so are you.

    Posted by To California Mom
    September 5th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
  67. Hey there California Mom,

    Are you serious? Those posters are right about Palin because she is a deranged and a very bad parent.
    You need to be locked up far away from your own children, for their own sake.

  68. Elitist…schmitist! Everyone is commenting off subject. Did I miss some news? I want to know what happened to Cindy McCain’s very obvious accessory of a bright pink, right lower arm cast. ??? It was gone during the GOP convention. I noticed how she was clapping with such gusto, hugging everyone, and holding up little Trak with no difficulty. And now today the cast reappears. Is it purely coincidence that it is the same arm casted as her husband’s was in his video clip showing him coming home from the war? Was she injured or is this some subliminal attempt to remind us of his tragic war story?

    Posted by I gotta know
    September 6th, 2008 at 12:03 am
  69. Glad to see the leftoids continue to confront the pressing issues of the day. Unlike Allen and many libs, I find an attractive, well dressed, heterosexual woman very interesting. Matter of fact, I grant that Bela Pelosi’s single grace is that she dresses flawlessly. Anyone put a price on her beautiful, golfball sized Black pearls? Elegance is only a weakness if the woman is a Republican. McCain, Palin, Palin, Jindahl, Jindahl..20 more years, that should make your day!

  70. I am British living in Australia and I have been following the US election on cable news. Where else in the world would people seriously consider electing a creationist to serve as VP?

    If you are capable of such delusion imagine how dangerous you could really be.

    A woman who stands against a woman’s right to choose but applauds her own daughter’s ‘choice’.

    Derr…

    Pehaps ‘pitbull hockey mums with lipstick’ aren’t up to the intellectual challege of spotting their own obvious internal contradictions and are happier living out their delusions but please America spare us 4 years of listening to any more of her rants.

  71. I just want to address Alan’s question to Geraldine Ferraro. You asked her if she thinks Sarah Palin would be able to Govern…. Do I really have to answer that?
    And I wish you would stop acting like Obama somehow qualifies for the top job with not one bit of Experience under his belt. How can you Dems even compare Experience and Qualifications? You can’t, so please stop!

    Thank you from an Independent Voter.

  72. David….all due respect, we don’t really care what you want. That’s what is wrong with the libs. They care more about the opinions of the other countries over Americans.

    Posted by ProudtobeAmerican
    September 6th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
  73. A K A BAD PARENTS,
    Because I have 4 kids and work full time while my husband cares for the home and the kids I’m a bad mother? That’s what your saying about Sarah Palin. How about Nancy Plosi she has 5 kids and has been in congress for a long time is she a bad mother too? Do you ever say this about a man I think not. We both made the children we both care for the children. Shame on you!!

    Posted by Working Mom
    September 6th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
  74. Proudtobeamerican (so original!)

    Yeah, well other countries would also like the yanks to keep their noses out of their business too. But they don’t. So it affects us.

    That’s why you are so unpopular all over the world right now…. even though on Sept 12th 2001 you had the sympathy of the whole world.

    The US does not exist in a vacuum. It exists as part of the world community. Pax Americana is long gone. So learn to live with it. Respect the opinions of other countries and they may respect you once again.

    Until then I hope the Moose and Caribou learn to shot back…

  75. ….that’s “shoot back”

  76. European Anti-Americanism and European sycophant outrage about “America’s poor image” is nothing new as evidenced by this exchange from 1898 between an American ex-pat in Paris and Mark Twain.

    The context is the Spanish-American War.

    A Word Of Encouragement For Our Blushing Exiles

    “…Well, what do you think of our country now? And what do you think of the figure she is cutting before the eyes of the world? For one, I am ashamed.”
    [Extract from a long and heated letter from a Voluntary Exile, Member of the American Colony, Paris.]

    And so you are ashamed. I am trying to think out what it can have been that has produced this large attitude of mind and this fine flow of sarcasm. Apparently you are ashamed to look Europe in the face; ashamed of the American name; temporarily ashamed of your nationality. By the light of remarks made to me by an American here in Vienna, I judge that you are ashamed because:

    1. We are meddling where we have no business and no right; meddling with the private family matters of a sister nation; intruding upon her sacred right to do as she pleases with her own, unquestioned by anybody.
    2. We are doing this under a sham humanitarian pretext.
    3. Doing it in order to filch Cuba, the formal and distinct disclaimer in the ultimatum being very, very thin humbug, and easily detectable by you and virtuous Europe.
    4. And finally you are ashamed of all this because it is new, and base, and brutal, and dishonest; and because Europe, having had no previous experience of such things, is horrified by it and can never respect us nor associate with us any more.

    Brutal, base, dishonest? We? Land Thieves? Shedders of innocent blood? We? Traitors to our official word? We? Are we going to lose Europe’s respect because of this new and dreadful conduct? Russia’s, for instance? Is she lying stretched out on her back in Manchuria, with her head among her Siberian prisons and her feet in Port Arthur, trying to read over the fairy tales she told Lord Salisbury, and not able to do it for crying because we are maneuvering to treacherously smouch Cuba from feeble Spain, and because we are ungently shedding innocent Spanish blood?

    Is it France’s respect that we are going to lose? Is our unchivalric conduct troubling a nation which exists to-day because a brave young girl saved it when its poltroons had lost it – a nation which deserted her as one man when her day of peril came? Is our treacherous assault upon a weak people distressing a nation which contributed Bartholomew’s Day to human history? Is our ruthless spirit offending the sensibilities of the nation which gave us the Reign of Terror to read about? Is our unmanly intrusion into the private affairs of a sister nation shocking the feelings of the people who sent Maximilian to Mexico? Are our shabby and pusillanimous ways outraging the fastidious people who have sent an innocent man (Dreyfus) to a living hell, taken to their embraces the slimy guilty one, and submitted to indignities Emile Zola – the manliest man in France?

    Is it Spain’s respect that we are going to lose? Is she sitting sadly conning her great history and contrasting it with our meddling, cruel, perfidious one – our shameful history of foreign robberies, humanitarian shams, and annihilations of weak and unoffending nations? Is she remembering with pride how she sent Columbus home in chains; how she sent half of the harmless West Indians into slavery and the rest to the grave, leaving not one alive; how she robbed and slaughtered the Inca’s gentle race, then beguiled the Inca into her power with fair promises and burned him at the stake; how she drenched the New World in blood, and earned and got the name of The Nation With The Bloody Footprint; how she drove all the Jews out of Spain in a day, allowing them to sell their property, but forbidding them to carry any money out of the country; how she roasted heretics by the thousands and thousands in her public squares, generation after generation, her kings and her priests looking on as at a holiday show; how her Holy Inquisition imported hell into the earth; how she was the first to institute it and the last to give it up – and then only under compulsion; how, with a spirit unmodified by time, she still tortures her prisoners to-day; how, with her ancient passion for pain and blood unchanged, she still crowds the arena with ladies and gentlemen and priests to see with delight a bull harried and persecuted and a gored horse dragging his entrails on the ground; and how, with this incredible character surviving all attempts to civilize it, her Duke of Alva rises again in the person of General Weyler – to-day the most idolized personage in Spain – and we see a hundred thousand women and children shut up in pens and pitilessly starved to death?

    Are we indeed going to lose Spain’s respect? Is there no way to avoid this calamity – or this compliment? Are we going to lose her respect because we have made a promise in our ultimatum which she thinks we shall break? And meantime is she trying to recall some promise of her own which she has kept?

    Is the Professional Official Fibber of Europe really troubled with our morals? Dear Parisian friend, are you taking seriously the daily remark of the newspaper and the orater about “this noble nation with an illustrious history”? That is mere kindness, mere charity for a people in temporary hard luck. The newspaper and the orator do not mean it. They wink when they say it.

    And so you are ashamed. Do not be ashamed; there is no occasion for it.

    [Mark Twain. Written in 1898, first published in 1923 - Ed.]

  77. Dave: Get an original argument.

    Europe has always been jealous of us.. and just like back then, we dont care.

  78. Dear Alan,

    There definitely is conservative whining on this blog-why is the self proclaimed “great american” Sean Hannity not willing to allow people to post so easily on his web blog like you do?-

    I have a hard time remembering the name hannity until I though of “vanity” the sink cabinet next to the “toilet”-so everytime I hear the righty’s complain I think of toilet, I mean vanity to help remember the guy who makes a living saying false statements to make money-

  79. joe,
    It turns out that you have to pay to post on Rush Limbaugh’s site.

    It’s funny that Alan provides this forum for right wingers to insult him for free, while the conservatives shield themselves from rebuttal.

  80. Why would you rebutt something on a differnt site from the original argument.. that makes no sense.

    And OldLefty: Dont fool yourself into thinking that anyone would pay to be here.

  81. I would say you are being paid by someone to be here spreading propaganda.

  82. I have no idea what you are talking about.

    The point is that no one WILL pay to refute Limbaugh etc, in the same way that Alan allows you do rebutt and insult him…. for free.

  83. You said:

    Dave: Get an original argument.

    Europe has always been jealous of us.. and just like back then, we dont care.

    Posted by Vince P – Chicago
    September 7th, 2008 at 2:06 am

    Now really that is funny. Jealous of what might I ask?

    Your depth of culture?
    Your ugly overweight women?
    Your bully boy ways around the world picking fights with small 3rd world countries? Korea. Viet Nam. Now Iraq. None of which I might add you have ever won….
    Your right to carry guns and kill each other?
    Your 18th century Christain fundamentalism that you now still embrace?
    Your history of slavery?
    Your racial harmony now!?
    The quality of your media haha
    The fact that you shoot your Presidents?
    the fact that some even had Ahlzeimers in office!?

    Oh there is sooo much to be jealous of. McDonalds. the perfect cup of lukewarm natts piss you serve over there as coffee. Your 200 years of history. Oh sorry is it 300? The great beer…etc etc

    You don’t even play the sport that the rest of the world plays. Instead you have your “World Series” How many countries play in the “World” series.

    Guys… get a life. Visit the rest of the world without trying to kill them and you might learn something. Don’t live the rest of your life in Disney Land.

    PS. has the bushpig Palin ever been out of the country….?