It Depends What The Meaning Of “Suspended” Is
If “suspended” means that you still run ads and conduct other activities, then John McCain has suspended his campaign. But, the truth is, you can’t just pull ads with the snap of finger. And even with ads and fundraising put on hold, the McCain camp addded a caveat.
Even McCain’s announcement that he would suspend his campaign was followed by a clarification that he was suspending only his advertising and fundraising, not his entire race.
And, in fact, even as the Today Show was announcing the suspension of the campaign, McCain ads were running. And if an economic deal is signed, this all will have been much ado about nothing, as the ads go right back up, and this looks more like the political stunt that it is.
…if a deal is reached today, which looks increasingly likely, and the campaign instructs its buyers to tell stations to go back up tomorrow, McCain’s unilateral disarmament might not amount to quite the act of self-sacrifice it was intended to seem.
Why do so many people have a problem with John McCain doing what he is paid to do? HIS JOB. He actually votes yes and no.
“Call me if you need me” is not very Presidential.
September 25th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
T.Mason, WTF are you talking about.
McCain has missed 101 more roll call votes than Tim Johnson. Granted when running for President, a candidate’s current job is going to suffer from some attention deficit. But 101 more missed roll call votes than a stroke victim who missed a solid eight months in the Senate? McCain missed a total of 412 votes, Johnson 311 and Obama 295. And Obama’s primary was considerably longer.
September 25th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
And while the details were being hammered out, where was McCain??? giving another speech on his ’suspended’ campaign.
September 25th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
I love the fact that Mccain campaign is falling apart everyday. Mccain is trying to throw the kitchen sink because he is behind in every poll. While Obama has remained cool & collected. Mccain is a true drama king. His campaign, vice president nominee & himself have lied so much. They even believe their own lies. lol. They are only making people upset at the little immature stunts that they do. All Obama got to do now is sit back and ease to the white house. Thank you Mr. Mccain & mrs Palin. haha
September 25th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
The gallup poll said they are tied today.
September 25th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Suspend his campaign
So Alan you want to narrowly define this based on your view of the universe, and where ever you can use your imagination to set reference points as to how you can think up ways to define this, where those differ from McCain, you feel okay calling McCain a liar?
its like “I’m going to see a man about a horse”
you Alan would imagine that means you will drive your chouffer driven limo into the expensive part of town and look at an art collection of porcelain horse figures.
ANY other person who says they will do anything different is a liar, in your book.
Why do you hate America?
September 25th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Well, Bill Clinton has spoken. He agrees with John McCain, that the debate should be postponed and the economic crisis dealt with.
Obama said “call me”, McCain wanted to sit down and get this taken care of.
Obama is more worried about his campaign, John McCain is more worried about the country.
If I remember correctly, McCain wanted to do town halls with obama and Obama wouldn’t do it.
September 25th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Dear Alan
Sen. John McCane is his own man. He always said “Country before Politics.” He will form more enimey with many Conservative Republican. I always thought he was polorized just like Sen. Obama. They both are weired Americans. They both picked their running mate to make their party happy.
Once again Sen McCane is in hot water with “the Conservative Republicans.”Now he is acting as a senetor of USA. He is a millitory man. Bush is the Comander in Chief. Like it or not he have to listen to president Bush. This is call “Team Player.”
May be Sen McCane see it not as “bell out Wall street.” He see it as a domino effect.My opinion is——————- dose not matter whows fault is it. Fix it and then go to a “pre planed stupid debate in a college of Missisipi” Bottom line is if we fall with our face down then FP and helping other Contries will be a Myth. Yes! It is a scary situation.
September 25th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
marist poll. obama 47 mccain 43, gallup polls obama & mccain 46.mccain own news network fox. has it 45 obama 39 mccain, diaego poll 47 obama 43 mccain
September 25th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
“Why do you hate America?”
What do you know about it?
September 25th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
To: Obama Supporters
Who cares if McCan win or Obama win the presidency in November. Democrats did put up with President Bush for 8 years. May be Repulican’s will put up with Democratic President for 8 years.
Bottom line is most of Conservative Republican do not like Sen. McCane.I can see Rush Limbough’s face. McCane spoke in Clinton’s global thing.
September 25th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
T. Mason said:
If I remember correctly, McCain wanted to do town halls with obama and Obama wouldn’t do it.
The format of the debates was negotiated, both sides wanted certain things that the other side did not. The current format is what was agreed.
Now as long as McCain can find a flight Friday after congress has adjourned, we should get to see them debate!
September 25th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Booohooo Waahhhhh
Who cares?
September 25th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
un……Allen! You have a spelling problem? It is SUSPENDED! NOT SUSPNEDED
September 25th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
hahahahahahaha
That’s good
September 25th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Gail said:
un……Allen! You have a spelling problem?
Hi Gail, his name is spelled Alan.
September 25th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
When (or if) a Congressional bank bailout agreement is reached and presented to America, we’ll know what McCain’s “suspension” was really about.
If McCain is contented to stand silently in the background as others present the crisis solution to the world, we can conclude that John’s interest might have truly been “Country First”.
If McCain takes center stage with the solution and presents it to the world as proof of his leadership, we can conclude the campaign suspension was only another staged event and McCain’s interest was only in “Me First” while our national solvency was at stake.
I’m leaning toward the latter possibility, but we’ll see.
September 25th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Gosh Crazy Conservative, those are fascinating debating points you are bringing to the dialogue. Is it Jack D or Jim B that’s giving you such inpiration?
September 25th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Thanks…There my own
September 25th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
So Crazy Conservative giggles when Gail points out that Alan misspelled a word.
Then 14 minutes later he says:
Thanks…There my own
Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.
September 25th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Thanks…I am
September 25th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
This topic is pointless. If you were smart enough to see that pre-programming was probably scheduled days to weeks ago and that this was probably an oversight on a video tech who was suppose to pull these ads and failed to do so, you would see that this talking point doesn’t need to be discussed. It’s pointless.
Both are staying in DC to vote on this….POINTLESS talking point….Do you see the word…POINTLESS
Again, I don’t need italics—still annoying.
September 25th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
CC Opined:
This topic is pointless.
So pointless that you saw the need to post in it five times?
September 25th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Unfortunalely,
You don’t get it when stated once
You seem to need multiple statements.. How’s the memory medication coming along?
You may need to switch meds, since you still depend on memory tricks like italics.
September 25th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Crazy said:
You may need to switch meds, since you still depend on memory tricks like italics.
Ooops. My bad. Sorry about that.
That’s now six times you have posted in a topic of which you said:
This topic is pointless.
September 25th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Ah, good lord.
Some McCain campaign staffer is on CNBC’s Kudlow show explaining how McCain has returned from the campaign trail only to work hard and lead Congress to a bailout agreement.
Our national solvency is being put at risk to present McCain in a better light for the election. I don’t believe these people.
September 25th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
I’ll make you feel better:
pointless
pointless
pointless
pointless
pointless
pointless
pointless
There a baker’s dozen
September 25th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
The gist from the Fox News report I watched earlier was that McCain is mucking up the works for political purposes. That he actually barely participated in the meetings – other than to lead some last minute opposition to what had been tentatively worked out between Republicans and Democrats.
If even Fox is portraying McCain’s participation as pure presidential politics, to the detriment of getting the bailout passed, I can’t imagine it will play well for him.
My guess is that he will have to stop obstructing this, let it go through, and actually participate in the debate tomorrow. And, of course, ‘return’ to his campaign.
September 25th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Crazy Conservative can’t count:
There a baker’s dozen
A baker’s dozen is 13, but that was only your seventh post in a topic about which you said:
This topic is pointless.
September 25th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Kudlow said a couple of nights ago that Barney Frank has been “acting a little queer” through the whole congressional bargaining procedure.
:)
September 25th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
6+7=13
Baker’s dozen
Who can’t count?
September 25th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Crazy Conservative can’t count, but he can add:
6+7=13
And is now up to eight posts in a topic about which he said:
This topic is pointless.
September 25th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Both McCain and Obama are STILL PAID senators. They should be in Washington trying to help. I don’t like this attitude that I am only a phone call away. This is another vote “present” for Obama. He got caught with his foot in is mouth, again.
Also, some of you don’t understand how ads work. They are paid for in advance, so the ads that were paid for before McCain suspended his campaign were done deals.
September 25th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Man,
Now you have to get into another class od medication altogether.
Mood enhancers
I throw a few more at ya
pointless pointless pointless pointless
Now I’ll make it have trails, you know the kind ya see after you’re done smoking your doobie
September 25th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
awww. they altered my post
Damn you, Alan
September 25th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
So, by “suspend” you’d prefer that we cancel the election? I guess as a Republican I should be okay with that, but it strikes me as a bad idea.
September 26th, 2008 at 12:10 am
This move by McCain, has earned my vote for him. I’m not a big McCain supporter however; this displays enormous leadership.
I think Obama is in serious trouble now.
September 26th, 2008 at 1:33 am
Mark. Idiot, wingnut and liar. Do you honestly think anyone is that frigging gullible?
September 26th, 2008 at 8:09 am
Here’s how a very erudite fellow at the New Yorker recorded yesterday’s events :-
A Busy Day
What a contrast yesterday. First, out comes McCain, looking drawn, jittery, and (to my admittedly jaundiced eye) guilty, with his announcement that he doesn’t want to debate on Friday because the financial crisis is too awful for a thing like politics to occur. He reads his statement and exits quickly. A couple of hours later, Obama appears. He looks and sounds like a President of the United States. He is preternaturally calm. He explains the chronology of the day: he called McCain at 8:30, the call was returned at 2:30, they discussed the idea of putting out a joint statement about the crisis. He says not a word about postponing the debate.
Then, unlike McCain, Obama takes questions. It becomes a full-fledged press conference. He eventually mentions the postponement. He says that during their phone call McCain had said it was something that ought to be looked at, and he had replied that they should get their joint statement out first. He makes it clear, in an offhand way, that McCain had blindsided him, but he does it without rancor. Perhaps there was a miscommunication, he suggests generously. He stresses his agreement with McCain that the crisis is neither Republican nor Democratic but American. He outlines some conditions he would like to see attached to the bailout bill but adds that both parties should refrain from loading it up with extraneous desiderata. He mentions a couple of specific examples of Democratic pet causes, including bankruptcy protection, that he doesn’t think should be in the bill. His manner with respect to the crisis is grave and businesslike, but he treats McCain’s debate-postponement demand as a minor matter that need not be taken too seriously. He notes dryly that both candidates have big airplanes with their names emblazoned and can easily travel to Oxford, Mississippi. He suggests that a potential President ought to be able to cope with more than one problem at a time.
Obama handled the situation perfectly. He didn’t have to point out that McCain’s cheap gambit was a cheap gambit. Surrogates, supporters, and, perhaps, the press would do that for him. And by treating the debate-postponement ploy as a detail, he slipped the trap McCain had set for him: either be bullied into obeying McCain’s order or be seen as putting politics above country. That’s how I saw it, anyhow. I have no idea if “the American people” will agree. Dick Morris doesn’t think so. On Bill O’Reilly’s show on Fox News, Morris was bubbling over with glee at the brilliance of it all. McCain’s maneuver, Morris said, was so clever it might have been orchestrated by Karl Rove himself. Maybe Morris is right. At the very least, McCain managed to prevent the cable chatterers from focusing on the news that his campaign manager had been on the Fannie Mae take right up to the moment last month when Fannie fell on her fanny.
A couple of hours later, Katie Couric, whose evening news program on CBS is reliably reported to have become the best of the big three, shows a few minutes of the interview she had taped that morning with Sarah Palin. Couric is both pleasanter and tougher than Charlie Gibson had been during the only other non-Fox interview the lady has condescended to give. For Palin, the interview excerpt begins badly. Couric asks about the campaign manager and the Fannie Mae payroll. Palin gives her answer, something about how her “understanding” is that the campaign manager had “recused himself.” Couric rephrases the question. Palin gives her answer again. It is nearly word for word the same as the first time. Chilling. The interview excerpt ends badly, too. Couric asks what, besides suggesting two years ago that there ought to be more oversight of the mortgage giants, McCain has ever done in his twenty-six years in Congress to change the way Wall Street does business. Palin points to McCain’s call for more oversight of the mortgage giants. Couric asks again. Palin says fondly that McCain is a maverick. Politely, a third time, Couric asks for specific examples. Pertly, Palin says, “I’ll try to find some and I’ll bring ‘em to ya.”
In other news, President Bush gave a nationally televised speech.
September 26th, 2008 at 9:00 am
Vince needs to step away from the keyboard:
Wow.. How impressive. But notice while Barry is masturbating with the press
Sheesh man, I could have gone a lifetime without that image in my mind. Thanks.
September 26th, 2008 at 10:23 am
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September 26th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
John Mckee,
Stop drinking the kool-aid, very few voters actually vote on foriegn policy, taxes or any other crap. A majority of voters, vote on someone who represents America. Obama does not. I have taveled abroad and talk to many “common people” in several countries, America is viewed as tough, leadership and not afraid to tackle anything. You can’t be serious to think that Obama portrays that characteristic. As a battle-ground voter, trust me when I say battle-ground voters will vote for Mccain.
McKee, you should seek treatment for your kool-aid addiction.
September 26th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Mark,
You can’t possibly believe that McCain displays “tough, leadership and not afraid to tackle anything”
He was afraid to debate Barack Obama, till he couldn’t get away with it anymore.
McCain represents old money and bureaucracy while Obama really IS the American dream.
And NOBODY in the rest of the world except Ahmadinejad and Osama bin Ladin wants McCain.
They do poorly when we deal justly with people.
September 26th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
OldLefty,
Name one time Obama has demonstrated leadership; Could it be his 130 “Present” votes in the Il. state senate, his $150,000 he recieved from Fannie Mae/Freddie Mack in just 2 years in the Senate, his over $200 mil. in earmarks in just 2 years in the senate,or his sweet heart house deal with a convicted Russo, or his leadership he displayed when he said “Iran is a tiny little country that we shouldn’t worry about”.How many times has Obama gone against his party? 0
Come on,I’m not a big McCain support (against his amnesty, and education bill with Kennedy), but you have to admit one thing on leadership, McCain far exceeds Obama.
You should seek treatment for your kool-aid addiction.
September 26th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Can we retire this dopey Kool-Aid allusion please? A thousand or so Americans died tragically in the Kool-Aid incident you joke about so light-heartedly.
Do you enjoy 9/11 humour?
September 26th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
John,
Are you really as stupid as you appear in your comments?
September 26th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
Early onset???
September 26th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Mark,
A present vote is no with an explaination.
As for leadership:
In Illinois, he took the lead in pushing through legislation so that police had video tape interrogations, which resulted in more convictions without accusations beatings.
In the US senate:
Ethics Reform, Lugar-Obama Nonproliferation Legislation, He sponsored an amendment to put strict limits on the use of no-bid contracts after disasters,
AND… he kept his cool in the current economic crisis, and didn’t follow McCain’s little stunt
As for Fannie, McCain’s WAY more up to his ears in those lobbyists, and the deregulation, and Phil Gramm.
Obama’s Party is not cohesive enough to say ANYBODY never goes against it.
From the the May Arizona Republic:
McCain not a maverick. that “When it matters the most, he seldom bucks his own party.” Examining his Senate record, the Republic found that since 1999 McCain almost never strayed from the Republican Party line.
McCain has caved on EVERYTHING he ever claimed to believe in in order to suck up to the far right wing.
And he didn’t know the difference between Sunni and Shia, or that Checkoslovakia is no longer a country,
( 57 states… Everyone thinks was a stumble,not a lack of knowlege)
It’s sad, but McCain seems like a befuddled old man.
I think you are the one with the Kool Aid addiction.
September 26th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Jonestown suicide
Around 914 followers of Jim Jones committed suicide or were murdered by drinking or allegedly being forced to drink cyanide-laced Kool-Aid in 1978. References to the mass suicide, in combination with existing references to The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test gave rise to the saying “Don’t drink the Kool-Aid” as a reference to those who blindly follow an authority even if it leads to serious harm or death.
September 26th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Exactly John so stop drinking the kool-aid it is harmful to your health.
Old Lefty, Corection, “Present” means taking no stance on the issue. Look it up on the IL web site. As for the nonproliferation bill, it was Lugar who sponsored it, Obama just signed on to it. Thats not leadership, thats riding coat tails. Get the facts before spewing your liberal lies. I’m still waiting for an example of leadership and one time Obama has gone against his own liberal party. Answer that one question “When has Obama ever gone against his own party” and back it up with facts if you can. Challenge are you up to taking it.
September 26th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Oldlefty,
you can google Illinois present vote and read the liberal article written in the NY times.
September 26th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
The 57 state comment by Obama was interesting. There are 57 muslim states.
Joe biden’s son was a lobbyist until a couple of weeks ago.
McCain has voted with the republicans 90% of the time, Obama has voted with the democrats 96% of the time. One would reason that the person with the lower percentage reaches across the aisle more.
Voting present in Illinois is basically a safe way to say, I don’t want to give you my opinion. You can’t do that in some states.
He was not afraid to debate obama. How many times was the Obama camp asked to do town halls and they wouldn’t do it? I wonder why? I know someone will say because the two sides couldn’t agree on a forum.
Even Bill Clinton said dems need to lay off McCain on the debate issue, because he was more than capable of debating and handling himself.
I guess we will see in a few.
September 26th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Is it just me or has anyone noticed that the liberal people can’t spell?
September 27th, 2008 at 10:21 am
They’re also obsessed with phantom “neocons”
September 27th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Alan why don’t go back where came from and ask your mother to abort you? You’re making the show less interesting when you show face. You and your candidate are both liars. Obama couldn’t admit he is a Muslim. What kind of person will lie about his true religion just to get what he want? He is such a coward like you. You and Obama are the kind who persons who will not even lift a finger to fight for America. You communist.
September 27th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
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September 29th, 2008 at 1:46 am