Sarah Palin: The Disney Movie
Matt Damon referred to the Palin pick as “a really bad Disney movie.”
I think there’s a really good chance Sarah Palin could become president, and I think that’s a really scary thing… I think the pick was made for political purposes… Do the actuary tables and there’s a one out of three chance, if not more, that McCain doesn’t survive his first term and it’ll be President Palin… It’s like a really bad Disney movie. The hockey mom, you know, ‘oh, I’m just a hockey mom’… and she’s facing down President Putin… It’s totally absurd… it’s a really terrifying possibility… I need to know if she really think that dinosaurs were here 4,000 years ago. I want to know that, I really do. Because she’s gonna have the nuclear codes.
And now here is the trailer for that movie.
She’s more than a hockey mom, Alan. Remember she’s a governor? She has more executive experience than your #1 guy. And now your taking cues from Matt Damon? Come on.
September 27th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Well, T. Mason, that “executive experience” argument would be far more impressive if GWB hadn’t had it. He did, and just look at the amount of good it’s done us.
September 27th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Damon’s best role was clearly Team America: World Police.
September 27th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
LMFFFFAAAAOOOOO! Head of Skate….LOL!
September 27th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Donna,
How many Presidents have gotten most of their experience as a community organizer, and only have 143 days in the senate with over 120 present votes? And Bush isn’t running for president again, although liberals seem to think he is since they constantly bring his name up.
September 27th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
What a freaking joke this woman is! But honestly I really don’t think we have to worry too much about it; particularly if she acts like I suspect she will on Thursday – a slapped ass.
September 27th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Seriously, she’s got one foot in the hole and the other on a banana peel.
September 27th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
T.Mason :
People are constantly bringing Bush’s name up because McCain has very similar views – no matter how much he tries to deny it. When you vote with him 90-95% of the time; it’s a bit difficult to try to convince otherwise.
September 27th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
I plan on having a “make an ass out of yourself Sarah Palin” party on Thursday night.
Seriously, I know I have a harsh sense of humor at times; but I honestly do feel very sorry for Palin – they (GOP) put her in a horrible position, but she allowed them to do it. We all know she is horribly under-qualified (and under-educated) for this position. It’s just so embarrassing for her; I do feel bad about that part of it – you know she’ll be the butt of political jokes for years – if not decades – to come. This is not fair to her or her family.
September 27th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
danielle,
and Obama votes with the far left democrats 96% of the time. How is that change?
September 27th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
T. Mason :
Well, the far left Democrats aren’t the one’s that f***ed this country up the last eight years. These are failed policies; face the facts.
September 27th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
so Democrats come out smelling sweet? ROFL. Democrats have NO fault in anything bad that happens? ROFL
I can guarantee you both sides are at fault.
If you haven’t realized by now that BOTH sides in Washington have messed up the economy along with the consumers who knew they couldn’t pay the loans they took out you are sleeping.
September 27th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Maybe we’d all like Sarah better if she had friends that bombed places in the US too
September 27th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
I love how conservatives love to smear Obama saying :
‘OBAMA DOESNT HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE TO BE PRESIDENT!!”
yet they keep saying Sarah ‘the flight attendant’ Palin has some kind of experience…?
Oh yea, i forgot, in the Katie Couric interview, Palin said she is protecting Americans by watching over the planes that cross her state from Russia..
LOOK THE PLANE THE PLANE BOSS, I AM PROTECTING AMERICANS ALREADY BY THAT PLANE CROSSING MY STATE!
What a joke!
Hilarious
I cant wait for the Biden/Palin debate.
“oh yes Joe Biden, i protect Americans by watching over the planes that cross my state from russia, you got nothing joe biden compared to me!’
-sarah the flight attendant
September 27th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
She’s not a flight attendant, and the very fact that you refer to her as one indicates that you are worried about her qualifications. she is the GOVERNOR of a state in the U.S. she commands a National Guard which is more than I can say for obama.
September 27th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
at least she doesnt hang around with people that bomb places in the US
September 27th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Well I think we’ve already seen the 1st part of the movie a joke IN Palin’S interview with Katie “I DON’T KNOW BUT I’LL FIND SOME AND GET BACK WITH YOU”. I really felt sorry for her making an A.. of herself. YES it is scary for America. Pudin would eat her up like a bowl of ceral or throw his charm on her and BAM there goes the USA.
September 27th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
T.Mason :
Let me guess what’s coming next – “it’s Clinton’s fault”.
September 27th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
“The white mans greed..runs a world in need”
September 27th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
LOL. Finally a Hollywood star with a little sense.
Yummm… Matt Damon…
September 27th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Alan, Why do you waist your time with this one-sided show Hannity and Colmes? Who chooses the guest, because it seems the show always has a debate team 2-1 against Sen.Obama and the conservatives are always ganging up on you with hannity over talking everyone when their a negative fact concerning mccain. But I forgot he’s a whinning spoil brat especially the night you confronted the issue with mccain deserting his wife for ms cindy.
September 27th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
The white man is the problem
September 27th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Just another example that armageddon is upon us. Middle America taking their political advice from the “Hollywood elite” who are SOOO in touch with them.
Good grief.
September 27th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Columbo still scratching his head.
Ah . . . Sorry to bother you Mr. Obama,
Sir, Excuse me Mr. Obama, I mean Senator Obama, sir. Um . . . know you are busy and important and stuff. I mean running for president is very important and . . . ah . . . I hate to bother you. I will only take a minute ok, sir?
See, I have these missing pieces that are holding me up, and I was wondering sir, if you could take time out of your busy schedule and help me out. You know, no big deal, just some loose ends and things.
Hey, you have a nice place here! The wife sees houses like this on TV all the time and says boy she wishes she had digs like this you know? Is that painting real? Really? Wow. I saw something like that in a museum once!
Oh, sorry sir. I didn’t mean to get off the track. So if you could just help me out a minute and give me some details, I will get right out of your way. I want to close this case and maybe take the wife to Coney Island or something. Ever been to Coney Island ? No, I didn’t think so. .
Well, listen, anyways, I can’t seem to get some information I need to wrap this up. These things seem to either be “locked” or “not available’. I’m sure it’s just some oversight or glitch or something, so if you could you tell me where these things are . . . I . . . I . . . have them written down here somewhere . . . oh wait. Sorry about the smears. It was raining out. I’ll just read it to you.
Could you help me please find these things, sir?
1. Occidental College records — Not released
2. Columbia College records — Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper — “not available”
4. Harvard College records — Not released
5. Selective Service Registration — Not released
6. Medical records — Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule — “not available”
8. Law practice client list — Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate – - Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth — Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published — None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
13. Your Record of baptism — Not released or “not available”
14. Your Illinois State Senate records–”not available”
Oh hey . . listen! I know you are busy! Is this too much for you now? I mean tell you what. I will come back tomorrow. Give you some time to get these things together, you know? I mean, I know you are busy, so I will just let myself out. I will be back tomorrow. And the day after. ..Who wants to know these things ask Senator Obama? Columbo answered:
THE PEOPLE…REMEMBER US????
September 27th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
I love how conservatives love to smear Obama saying :
‘OBAMA DOESNT HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE TO BE PRESIDENT!!”
He doesn’t have any experience. And you know it. And if you think he does, I challenge you to give even some. Try it.
September 27th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
the far left Democrats aren’t the one’s that f***ed this country up the last eight years. These are failed policies; face the facts.
Can you list 5 reasons why this country is f***ed?
September 27th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
Hey Pino, NEITHER DOES YOUR CANDIDATE SARAH PALIN!
LOL
Oh wait, she protects americans by watching over the planes that cross her state that come from russia..
yup, thats experience!
Damn, i forgot!
hahahahahahah
but wait, she does have other experiences, but she told me that she will ‘get back to me’…
hmmm..
Sarah the flight attendant, we got a month until the elections..
GET BACK TO ME QUICKLY BEFORE NOVEMBER!!
lol
September 28th, 2008 at 12:26 am
But in reality, i think Sarah does come a family with experience in my view…
just to be fair…
See, just look at the guy who knocked up Sarah Palin’s teenage daughter..
I think that guy has more ‘experience’ than sarah palin, right?
LOL
I love it when conservatives lashed out at liberalism saying that:
‘its the liberalism that is causing so many mothers to not have fathers in their family and are having children while they themselves are children! that is liberalism!’
yet they have the palin family whose teenage daughter was knocked up by a guy and yet to conservatives, they DONT dare to critize Palin for that…
Who is really responsible for Sarah ‘the flight attendant’s teenage daughter being pregnant by her bf??
Can any conservative point out, who is responsible for this act?
And this Sarah Palin is your conservative role-model?
She can’t even manage her own children right now, image when if she becomes a VP!
Scary thought.
September 28th, 2008 at 12:30 am
Also, i love when conservatives slam liberals in Hollywood saying they cant hold a marriage, look at Britney Spears little sister, pregenant as a teenager!
Yet Alaska is far far far far away from Hollywood the teenage daughter of a republican governor is unmarried and pregnant.
Image if Chelsea Clinton were pregnant while unmarried?
The far right would be demonizing the clintons as an example of ‘modern day liberalism the democrats have to offer’
but Sarah ‘the flight attendan’t palin, her own teenage daughter is pregnant and she is going to be the VP if McCain wins the white house?
SHE CANT EVEN MANAGE HER OWN CHILDREN, CAN YOU IMAGE THE WHOLE COUNTRY??
my god!!!!
Reality is starting to sink in, saying that Joe Biden was a big mistake for Obama which were wrong, conservatives are waking up that Sarah Palin is:
-she is not smart
-she is qualified
-she doesnt have much expereince
-she cant even handle her children
Biden was the wrong choice? NOPE
John McCain picked the wrong candidate to be VP.
They thought she could win the woman Clinton vote, they were wrong.
Palin has nothing to offer but because she doesn’t have a penis.
That is all she has to offer, she is a woman.
That is not change.
With the McCain in the toilet in the polls, americans have begun to see this, that Palin doesn’t offer anything but a dress and lipstick!
THATS IT!
September 28th, 2008 at 12:38 am
Mr. Colmes,
you are so right on target about Sarah Palin. I’m a conservative who’s from Chicago.I lived in Wasilla Alaska and went to high school and church with her. Any ways besides all that. I apologize of these ugly comments you are getting because you know the truth about her. Go to Blogtalkradio.com/syrin or Sarahpalininvestigated.con
September 28th, 2008 at 12:52 am
Since McCain picked Sarah Palin for V.P. i’m voting for Obama. I thought he did a good job with the debate.
September 28th, 2008 at 1:01 am
NEITHER DOES YOUR CANDIDATE SARAH PALIN!
Okay, so we have established that both Palin and Obama are not qualified to be President. Of course, the critical detail is that while Palin is running for VICE President, your guy is running for the top job. He is simply not qualified. There simply is no valid list of qualifications that he passes in this regard.
Oh wait, she protects americans by watching over the planes that cross her state that come from russia..
And there are 57 states.
she does have other experiences, but she told me that she will ‘get back to me’…
And we had TV during the Great Depression.
Point is, for all his oration, his polish and his grand ideas, Obama doesn’t have the literal, valid critical to quality experience required for President. He simply doesn’t. Simply does not have the experience. Understand, Obama has the EXACT same foreign policy experience that Palin does.
If you want to vote for anybody not Republican because you feel the need for some kinda change; I got nothin for ya. I guess you have at least thought SOMETHING through and you have a right to your vote. But admit thats it. THAT is what you are voting for. Somebody, ANYBODY not a republican–even if he is the most under qualified person on the ticket.
September 28th, 2008 at 1:39 am
“she is the GOVERNOR of a state in the U.S.”
Yes, a state with fewer people than Delaware, and a population density one-third that of Siberia.
“she commands a National Guard…”
The Grand Marshall of the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day parade has more authority.
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“11. Harvard Law Review articles published — None”
From the Boston Globe: As editor for two semesters, Obama spent 50 to 60 hours a week holed up in a second-floor office of Gannett House, a 19th century building overlooking Cambridge Common. He reviewed hundreds of articles, on topics ranging from corporate law to racial bias in auto pricing, and presided over long, heated debates in the cluttered first-floor lounge.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/01/28/at_harvard_law_a_unifying_voice/
September 28th, 2008 at 1:52 am
He reviewed hundreds of articles, on topics ranging from corporate law to racial bias in auto pricing, and presided over long, heated debates
So did I. And yet, neither me nor Mr. Obama have the experience to be President.
Serious. THATS his experience? For President? Of the, you know, United States of America? Thats what ya got?
September 28th, 2008 at 2:00 am
Reposting so that quotes and rebuttal are clear.
He reviewed hundreds of articles, on topics ranging from corporate law to racial bias in auto pricing, and presided over long, heated debates
So did I. And yet, neither me nor Mr. Obama have the experience to be President.
September 28th, 2008 at 2:03 am
This whole posting shows that Sarah Palin is a threat to the lefties. They must tear her down. She must be destroyed… Never underestimate Sarah Palin. Many have and she has left them in her dust. She will be president someday and I think the world will be a better place. She may even bring back the good old Reagan days. Hillary doesnt hold a candle to here. Joe Biden? Please…..And Barack Hussein Obama? A community organizor for president. Is that the best of your best? Hillary Clinton is probably the most upset. Sarah Palin can do anything she can do better and she looks and sounds better doing it. Oh there will be much wailing and nashing of teeth when McCain and Palin get into office. Good days are ahead of us. I can feel it.
September 28th, 2008 at 2:07 am
Thursday night should be fascinating.
September 28th, 2008 at 2:29 am
should be
September 28th, 2008 at 5:42 am
The Leftists are trying to destroy the country.
Danielle, the retard, says the Left has done nothing to bring the country where it is today.
Danielle: are you in a freakin cave? Are you not aware that the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 and expanded throughout the 1990s in conjunction with the corrupt Democrat-run Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac have destroyed the world banking system?
And gee, isn’t it interesting that Obama’s publiclly-hidden activity of 1990s includes his suing Citibank because Citibank wasn’t giving out enough CRA (read: loans that would never be repaid) loans?
All of the Democrats who have enabled the destruction of the banking system are now in leadership position in Congress and are responsible for crafting the recovery laws.
Did you folks know that the Democrats want to allocate 20% of any repayment back to the Govt to go to the Obama-affliated ACORN corruption racket?
That’s 20% of what could be trillion or more dollars?
These people are at war against the United States.
September 28th, 2008 at 5:43 am
The Cloward-Piven Strategy of Orchestrated Crisis
In an earlier post, I noted the liberal record of unmitigated legislative disasters, the latest of which is now being played out in the financial markets before our eyes. Before the 1994 Republican takeover, Democrats had sixty years of virtually unbroken power in Congress – with substantial majorities most of the time. Can a group of smart people, studying issue after issue for years on end, with virtually unlimited resources at their command, not come up with a single policy that works? Why are they chronically incapable?
Why?
One of two things must be true. Either the Democrats are unfathomable idiots, who ignorantly pursue ever more destructive policies despite decades of contrary evidence, or they understand the consequences of their actions and relentlessly carry on anyway because they somehow benefit.
I submit to you they understand the consequences. For many it is simply a practical matter of eliciting votes from a targeted constituency at taxpayer expense; we lose a little, they gain a lot, and the politician keeps his job. But for others, the goal is more malevolent – the failure is deliberate. Don’t laugh. This method not only has its proponents, it has a name: the Cloward-Piven Strategy. It describes their agenda, tactics, and long-term strategy.
The Strategy was first elucidated in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation magazine by a pair of radical socialist Columbia University professors, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. David Horowitz summarizes it as:
Cloward and Piven were inspired by radical organizer [and Hillary Clinton mentor] Saul Alinsky:
Newsmax rounds out the picture:
September 28th, 2008 at 5:47 am
In their Nation article, Cloward and Piven were specific about the kind of “crisis” they were trying to create:
No matter where the strategy is implemented, it shares the following features:
1 – The offensive organizes previously unorganized groups eligible for government benefits but not currently receiving all they can.
2- The offensive seeks to identify new beneficiaries and/or create new benefits.
3 – The overarching aim is always to impose new stresses on target systems, with the ultimate goal of forcing their collapse.
Capitalizing on the racial unrest of the 1960s, Cloward and Piven saw the welfare system as their first target. They enlisted radical black activist George Wiley, who created the National Welfare Reform Organization (NWRO) to implement the strategy. Wiley hired militant foot soldiers to storm welfare offices around the country, violently demanding their “rights.” According to a City Journal article by Sol Stern, welfare rolls increased from 4.3 million to 10.8 million by the mid-1970s as a result, and in New York City, where the strategy had been particularly successful, “one person was on the welfare rolls… for every two working in the city’s private economy.”
According to another City Journal article titled “Compassion Gone Mad”:
The vast expansion of welfare in New York City that came of the NWRO’s Cloward-Piven tactics sent the city into bankruptcy in 1975. Rudy Giuliani cited Cloward and Piven by name as being responsible for “an effort at economic sabotage.” He also credited Cloward-Piven with changing the cultural attitude toward welfare from that of a temporary expedient to a lifetime entitlement, an attitude which in-and-of-itself has caused perhaps the greatest damage of all.
Cloward and Piven looked at this strategy as a gold mine of opportunity. Within the newly organized groups, each offensive would find an ample pool of foot soldier recruits willing to advance its radical agenda at little or no pay, and expand its base of reliable voters, legal or otherwise. The radicals’ threatening tactics also would accrue an intimidating reputation, providing a wealth of opportunities for extorting monetary and other concessions from the target organizations. In the meantime, successful offensives would create an ever increasing drag on society. As they gleefully observed:
The next time you drive through one of the many blighted neighborhoods in our cities, or read of the astronomical crime, drug addiction, and out-of-wedlock birth rates, or consider the failed schools, strapped police and fire resources of every major city, remember Cloward and Piven’s thrill that “…the drain on local resources persists indefinitely.”
September 28th, 2008 at 5:48 am
The preceding two comments are from an article at American Thinker website that this site is blocking the URL of.
It’s titled, Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis
September 28th, 2008 at 5:49 am
More from the same article:
Mortgage Crisis
And now we have the mortgage crisis, which has sent a shock wave through Wall Street and panicked world financial markets like no other since the stock market crash of 1929. But this is a problem created in Washington long ago. It originated with the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), signed into law in 1977 by President Jimmy Carter. The CRA was Carter’s answer to a grassroots activist movement started in Chicago, and forced banks to make loans to low income, high risk customers. PhD economist and former Texas Senator Phil Gramm has called it: “a vast extortion scheme against the nation’s banks.”
ACORN aggressively sought to expand loans to low income groups using the CRA as a whip. Economist Stan Leibowitz wrote in the New York Post:
In fact, minority mortgage applications were rejected more frequently than other applications-but the overwhelming reason wasn’t racial discrimination, but simply that minorities tend to have weaker finances.
ACORN showed its colors again in 1991, by taking over the House Banking Committee room for two days to protest efforts to scale back the CRA. Most significant of all, ACORN was the driving force behind a 1995 regulatory revision pushed through by the Clinton Administration that greatly expanded the CRA and laid the groundwork for the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac borne financial crisis we now confront. Barack Obama was the attorney representing ACORN in this effort. With this new authority, ACORN used its subsidiary, ACORN Housing, to promote subprime loans more aggressively.
As a New York Post article describes it:
Flexible lending programs expanded even though they had higher default rates than loans with traditional standards. On the Web, you can still find CRA loans available via ACORN with “100 percent financing . . . no credit scores . . . undocumented income . . . even if you don’t report it on your tax returns.” Credit counseling is required, of course.
Ironically, an enthusiastic Fannie Mae Foundation report singled out one paragon of nondiscriminatory lending, which worked with community activists and followed “the most flexible underwriting criteria permitted.” That lender’s $1 billion commitment to low-income loans in 1992 had grown to $80 billion by 1999 and $600 billion by early 2003.
The lender they were speaking of was Countrywide, which specialized in subprime lending and had a working relationship with ACORN.
Investor’s Business Daily added:
Since these loans were to be underwritten by the government sponsored Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the implicit government guarantee of those loans absolved lenders, mortgage bundlers and investors of any concern over the obvious risk. As Bloomberg reported: “It is a classic case of socializing the risk while privatizing the profit.”
And if you think Washington policy makers cared about ACORN’s negative influence, think again. Before this whole mess came down, a Democrat-sponsored bill on the table would have created an “Affordable Housing Trust Fund,” granting ACORN access to approximately $500 million in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac revenues with little or no oversight.
Even now, unbelievably — on the brink of national disaster — Democrats have insisted ACORN benefit from bailout negotiations! Senator Lindsay Graham reported last night (9/25/08) in an interview with Greta Van Susteren of On the Record that Democrats want 20 percent of the bailout money to go to ACORN!
This entire fiasco represents perhaps the pinnacle of ACORN’s efforts to advance the Cloward-Piven Strategy and is a stark demonstration of the power they wield in Washington.
September 28th, 2008 at 6:04 am
This is from No Quarter blog:
Obama claimed he has no ties to “a group he did some legal work for” back in 1995. Let’s look into that claim.
- In 1995, Illinois Gov. Jim Edgar balked at implementing the federal motor voter law out of concern that letting people register via postcard and blocking the state from pruning voter rolls might invite vote fraud. A young lawyer named Barak Obama, a community organizer himself, sued on behalf of ACORN and won. ACORN later invited Obama to train its staff on voter registration drives.
- In 1996 Obama ran for Illinois State Senate and ACORN became his precinct organization, identifying and turning out the vote.
- When Obama served on the board of the Woods Fund for Chicago, the Fund frequently gave ACORN grants to fund its agenda and voter registration activities.
- In 2004 ACORN operates as Obama’s precinct organization in his run for the U.S. Senate.
- In 2007 ACORN’s national political arm endorsed Obama for president, and its “nonpartisan” voter registration affiliate starts registering hundreds of thousands of voters for Obama.
- Obama claims he has no ties to “a group he once did some legal work for.”
- In July 2008 the Pittsburgh Tribune Review, along with NoQuarter researchers, exposes the lie by uncovering $832,598.29 that the Obama campaign funneled through a front company called Citizens Services, Inc.
ACORN, which receives partial taxpayer funding, used those funds to conduct solicitations for contributions to and raised over $800,000 for Obama in Philadelphia alone.
September 28th, 2008 at 6:39 am
Why bother having Alan’s name at the top any longer?
Let’s just rename the site Vince P’s DENIALAND and be done with it…
September 28th, 2008 at 7:26 am
This article proves that Liberaland is starting to “Get it” when it comes to the selection of Gov. Palin. The racial unity inside the Obama camp can only be neutralized by an internal division that crosses racial lines. This division began in the Hillary Clinton Camp. Bill’s racial overtones is South Carolina and beyond were code words that attack the heart of Obama’s ideology of “Equal Opportunity and Healing.” Women cross racial barriers with gender issues. Men have discriminated against women to no end, but women have profited from this discrimination as well. Some former slaves profited from the crimes of slavery, but they have not risen above the status quo. The race is close because all have suffered, but who will cross the barrier first. Sarah Palin is the average woman rising faster than a comet on the angst created by the Clintons to maintain their political power. Blinded by the light, some would vote against their best interest because they haven’t truly suffered at all. That’s politics, but did we teach enough of our children not to hate?
September 28th, 2008 at 7:40 am
This site is a propaganda effort for the Obama campaign. I am merely engaging in the process.
September 28th, 2008 at 8:00 am
Cecil,
You can look on these boards and see which children were not taught to hate based on their seething, unsubstantiated comments about Sarah Palin that are full of sexism and lies.
Please, don’t deal with facts. Just deal with the most important race in the country like a bunch of seventh graders who have hit puberty but don’t know how to control themselves.
Someone needs to explain to LOUIE the Liberal that plenty of democrats have teenage daughters who get pregnant. Someone needs to explain to him that GREAT families have GREAT children who end up in the same situation. It doesnt make you bad, ignorant, trashy, or mean that you didn’t care or weren’t involved in their lives. It means you are HUMAN.
I guess that concept is kinda hard for someone who acts as if their candidate walks on water.
Referring to her as a flight attendant gives the appearance that you are one of these people who thinks any accomplishment made by a woman is a detriment to society. Quite sexist, ignorant, and immature.
EVERY Governor has command over the national guard in their state. Including Governor Palin. If I am not mistaken, the state of Alaska is unique because they have more full time National Guardsmen than other states due to National Security responsibilities related to Russia, etc.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:43 am
If I were you, I’d pay no attention to the associates from your other half. Check out this youtube song that incorporates much of what Obama said during the debate into a catchy tune: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BZCXLEEsws
September 28th, 2008 at 10:28 am
HEY TEDD,
the left doesnt want to destroy sarah palin.
She is doing it all by herself!
LOL
Oh yea, she is protecting americans by watching over planes that cross her state from russia.
I dont know about you, but thank you sarah palin, i feel protected now!
lol
September 28th, 2008 at 11:44 am
T. MASON,
I thought you conservatives hated parents that don’t take care of their children?
If a teenage daughter is knocked up by her bf, my question is…
WHERE ARE THE PARENTS?
SARAH PALIN? AREN’T YOU A CONSERVATIVE THAT IS AGAINST THIS HAPPENING TO AMERICAN FAMILIES, YET IT HAPPENED TO YOUR OWN CHILDREN!
and you want us, sarah the flight attendant palin, that you want to be our VP, yet you can’t even take care of your own children?
WHERE WERE YOU SARAH PALIN WHEN YOUR TEENAGE DAUGHTER WAS BEING KNOCKED UP?
And you want to set an example to the conservative movement, yet you cant even handle, or manage your own family?
incredible.
September 28th, 2008 at 11:47 am
2 questions is to all the radical far right in here.
WHERE WAS SARAH PALIN WHEN HER TEENAGE DAUGTHER WAS BEING KNOCKED UP BY HER BF?
and
WHY SHOULD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE VOTE FOR SARAH PALIN TO TAKE CARE OF AMERICA WHEN SHE CAN’T EVEN TAKE CARE OF HER OWN CHILDREN?
very simple questions.
September 28th, 2008 at 11:50 am
WHERE WAS SARAH PALIN??
I didn’t know that parents of 17-year-olds stood over them 24/7. Do you want her to lock her in her room, take away her phone, and force her to stay away from anyone of the male persuasion??
How very responsible of you.
I guess all the parents who send their college aged children away to college at 17, 18, 19 years old are BAD parents because they aren’t supervising their every move. I guess Barack Obama’s mother was a bad mother because she left her son to live her life? I don’t see you pointing that out.
Do you see Barack Obama with his girls all the time? maybe you should question whether or not he can be a good father AND run a country?
The fact is, you can’t shut up about something that happens on a daily basis in this country to GOOD families.
Being a good parent doesn’t mean you have perfect kids. It means you are there for them, loving them, NO MATTER WHAT.
September 28th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
“I didn’t know that parents of 17-year-olds stood over them 24/7. Do you want her to lock her in her room, take away her phone, and force her to stay away from anyone of the male persuasion??”
I thought conservatives like Sarah Palin would talk to her children about having sex before marriage.
What happened?
And dont bring up barack Obama and his children. At least his children aren’t getting knocked up by their bf like Sarah Palin’s children.
LOL
September 28th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
EXCUSES EXCUSES AND MORE EXCUSES….
T. Mason, this is the first time i see conservatives coming to the defense of an un-wed pregnant teenage girl.
why?
oh yea, she is a republican.
double standard.
no wonder, McCain’s polls numbers are the toilet.
Americans with a brain are watching that Palin has nothing to offer but a un-wed pregnant teenage girl to promote.
LOL
September 28th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
louie the liberal,
Why don’t you leave Palin and her daughter alone. You are VILE and so are your remarks. You better hope it never happens in your family. There is no guarantee that it won’t. Go ahead hide behind this blog.. you are all sickos. Palin’s daughter has nothing to do with this. I thought this was political and you drag a teenager into this. SHAME ON YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 28th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Decided to come back WM? Can’t you people get it through your thick skulls that the point is not that she’s pregnant but that the religious right are always preaching family values, abstinence,ect. and it’s obvious that ABSTINENCE DOES NOT WORK. And enough with your sob story about the poor helpless minor. Soon she’s going to be a wife and mother which means ADULT.
September 28th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Louie,
Take a minute. List five qualifications for President. Then, take another minute and list 5 of Obama’s qualities that qualifies him for President. Then, take one more minute and see if anything on those two lists are in common.
Serious. Try it. take notes and report back.
September 28th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Why don’t you leave Palin and her daughter alone.
Working Mom,
He cant. This is all they have. They know that this type of attack is it. They have no policy leverage and no experience leverage on the McCain ticket.
This is the last resort of the incompetent.
September 28th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Hey Working mom, quit whining and leave. You said you were going to.
September 28th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
FuRyUs,
Your the one whining…your all like a bunch of babies. I’m GONE!!!!
September 28th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
T. Mason said,
How many Presidents have gotten most of their experience as a community organizer, and only have 143 days in the senate with over 120 present votes? And Bush isn’t running for president again, although liberals seem to think he is since they constantly bring his name up.
Hey T., I’m sure you know this – but some reading your post might misunderstand.. The ‘present’ votes were from his days in the Illinois senate, not the U.S. senate (that time in Illinois senate being some experience in addition to community organizer and U.S. senator that you forgot to mention)
Also, the ‘present’ vote is really a ‘no’… please read this from the Sept 9 Chicago Tribune:
You guys might want to find out what you are talking about re: the ‘present’ votes before you go off half cocked. Unless of course you do understand and are just using cheap tricks to discredit Obama.
September 28th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Tedd is a dork:
.And Barack Hussein Obama? A community organizor for president. Is that the best of your best?
That’s as ridiculous as saying ‘Sara Palin? A beauty queen for Vice President?’
If it were a debate between which is better, beauty queen or community organizer, I’d pick the community organizer. But obviously Palin has much experience beyond her Miss Wassila days and Obama has much experience beyond being a community organizer.
September 28th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
beauty queen or community organizer,
Of course the difference is this. All Obama has is community organizer. Palin has a little thing called, you know, being Governor.
Obama has much experience beyond being a community organizer.
I would love to hear it. Quick, five things required to be President. Five things Obama has that qualify him. See if ANY on your two lists match. ANY!
September 28th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Pino is also a dork:
Of course the difference is this. All Obama has is community organizer. Palin has a little thing called, you know, being Governor.
Really. ‘All Obama has is community organizer.’ He was also a little thing called, you know, being a Senator.
September 28th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
He was also a little thing called, you know, being a Senator.
Thats your list? To qualify for being president you have to be a senator. And then, ya know, Obama was a senator?
Work harder Um. Work harder. Your country deserves you to really understand why you are voting for this man. Work harder!
September 28th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Pino wants to know:
Your country deserves you to really understand why you are voting for this man.
You can read any of my probably 200 posts on the subject, if you are interested. Which I really don’t think you are. Nor do I suspect is much of the rest of the country. Eu sou apenas um cara.
September 28th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
I’m not using “cheap tricks”. Either vote yes or no if you have the cahonas. If not, then vote present. I know it was in the Illinois Senate and not all states afford that choice.
Lorraine,
Having conservative morals and teaching your children those morals does not mean you expect them to be perfect and walk on water. We are all human and make mistakes. the point is dear, her pregnancy has NOTHING to do with this election and everything with YOUR distate for MY morals which are MY choosing and MY business.
Maybe you should think about how you would feel if she were YOUR daughter, YOUR sister, or YOUR friend before you start throwing stones.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Um,
believe it or not, some of your friends on here have used the exact example you used above “she is just a beauty queen flight attendant”
September 28th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
T. Mason,
As the republican senator explained, the ‘present’ vote is a tool used in Illinois to show while you may support the idea of the bill, you don’t support the way it is written. Since, as you mention, many states do not have that tool (nor does the US Senate), there is a lot of misunderstanding about it.
It has nothing to do with having ‘cahones’ or not, it has to do with why you do not support the specific bill.
re: believe it or not, some of your friends on here have used the exact example you used above “she is just a beauty queen flight attendant”
Of course I believe it. Pretty much every regular poster, myself included, have said asinine things on this blog before.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
If you don’t support the bill the way it is written, why not vote “NO?”
Strategy.
Maybe to protect your voting record.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/02/the_everpresent_obama.html
Safe politics for a guy with dreams of running for President. If I feel strongly enough not to go along with something, my answer is NO, not maybe.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
T. Mason asks,
if you don’t support the bill the way it is written, why not vote “NO?”
I guess this is the third time I have repeated the same thing, but I’ll go anyway, since you ask…
It’s to show that you support the idea behind the bill, but not the way the bill is written.
Since it is in effect a ‘no’ I don’t see how you think it is a way to ‘protect your voting record.’
Presumably the folks in Illinois understand it for what it is, and they are usually the ones looking at how the Illinois state senate votes.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
T. Mason said:
If I feel strongly enough not to go along with something, my answer is NO, not maybe.
OK, I won’t be voting for you to be an Illinois Senator, should you ever run, and should I live in Illinois at the time.
I would want my Illinois Senator to be aware of and use all the tools at her disposal.
You and your husband are still invited to my imaginary BBQ, however.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Based on what I have read, it protects your voting record with both sides. On tough bills like the partial birth abortion issue, strip clubs, etc. some other bills that he voted present on, he wanted to play to both sides.
It makes you look like you are in the middle on issues. You can vote NO with an explanation if you choose.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
“Having conservative morals and teaching your children those morals does not mean you expect them to be perfect and walk on water.”
yes, but somehow if you are not conservative and live in a big city, if one was to make the same mistakes, you are ridiculed by the right (ie O’reily). For decades people have been told, if only you taught abstinence, if only you were christian, if only you voted for Bush… you wouldn’t be in this mess. Well, guess what… you are correct, people aren’t perfect. It’s not that people are knocking Palin and her family for mistakes, its been the years that the right has been on their soapbox dictating to everyone else how to live their lives. People are knocking down those people off of their high horse.
Don’t tell me what religion I need to worship, don’t tell me what marriage is, don’t tell me what to do with my body.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
You can read any of my probably 200 posts on the subject, if you are interested.
In those posts I don’t find any indication of what you feel qualifies someone to be president or what qualifications Obama has. Sum it up for us.
Which I really don’t think you are.
Of course I care.
Nor do I suspect is much of the rest of the country
And this is what firghtens me. A country full of people who gleefully go to the polls and pull the lever for a man they don’t care enough to think about.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Hey T. Mason, I wasn’t paying attention when you said:
Having conservative morals and teaching your children those morals does not mean you expect them to be perfect and walk on water
Last time I asked you what ‘conservative’ morals were, you said you used the phrase in anger.
But what are conservative morals? If you are talking about premarital sex, I’m a liberal and if I had a daughter I would most definitely be all for her abstinence, and would reinforce my opinion with her gentleman callers as well.
So, what do you mean by ‘conservative’ morals?
September 28th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Pino is apparently the boss of me (and a very rapid researcher as well):
In those posts I don’t find any indication of what you feel qualifies someone to be president or what qualifications Obama has. Sum it up for us.
Why don’t you make me. :p
Just kidding. My real answer is:
No
September 28th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Um, I used that phrase in this case because a previous poster that I have been going back and forth with on numerous boards used that in one of her answers as to why Alan made Bristol Palin an issue.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
T.,
Gotcha – thanks.
Aright all, gonna go do something more important than enlighten you all with my views ; )
Am going to watch Rambo IV, then go to bed.
Goodnight T, John, and everyone else.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
Just kidding.
I suspect you are not.
My real answer is:
I suspect you real answer is: I can’t.
Whatever the views of Um, as I have been debating this whole Palin thing with Obama supporters, I have discovered this fact. Not one, not Um, not Louie, not other folks on and off this board….none of them, not ONE can provide a concise argument detailing Obama’s critical to quality experience for President.
Think of this, seriously, Obama is not the most qualified on his TICKET.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Sarah Palin is a threat to no one but herself. She is her own worse enemy. Her interviews are a horror show, her ethics are in question in Alaska, and she has nothing of substance to say, otherwise she would have said it by now. Therefore, all she has left are bad jokes and sarcasm. A pregnant seventeen year old daughter are the least of her problems, she’s in WAY WAY over her head.
September 28th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Whatever the views of Um, as I have been debating this whole Palin thing with Obama supporters, I have discovered this fact. Not one, not Um, not Louie, not other folks on and off this board….none of them, not ONE can provide a concise argument detailing Obama’s critical to quality experience for President.
Think of this, seriously, Obama is not the most qualified on his TICKET.
Posted by pino
………………………
That’s untrue.
The fact is that McCain, Palin, Bush/Cheney, take the experience issue off the table.
They show that often experience means nothing if you have gained no knowledge or wisdom from it.
They said the same thing about Bush/Cheney, and JFK/LBJ
Abraham Lincoln had the same qualifications as Obama, whereas McCain’s years in the government show that he is willing to sell every principle he has for the approval of the same far right wing that he used to shun.
September 29th, 2008 at 7:22 am
Old,
comparing Obama to Lincoln is a huge stretch. Look at all of Lincoln’s accomplishments, beginning when he took public office in 1834 until the time he became President in 1861. 27 years later. That is a LOT of expreience before becoming President.
Name one thing, ONE that Obama has accomplished as Senator that had a positive direct affect on any of his constituents?
When you compare McCain’s voting record, voting with repubs 90% of the time compared to obama’s voting with dems 96% of the time, one would infer that the candidate with the lowest percentage reached across party lines more often. Obama has NEVER voted against his party. EVER, that I am aware of.
September 29th, 2008 at 8:33 am
Still not budging, T? I was hoping you would be one of the most recent wave of converts that have taken Barack back up to the 50% number.
C’mon… join the winning side – it’s not too late. I know Obama may not have all the experience you’d like, but at least he’s not a nasty old opportunist who panders to the fundies even though he despises them, lies through his teeth at the drop of a hat and cannot even look his opponent in the eye!
September 29th, 2008 at 8:43 am
It isn’t just the experience John. I was a Barack supporter until this summer. there are many reasons why I am supporting McCain, and while experience is ONE reason that isn’t the biggest reason.
September 29th, 2008 at 8:56 am
I’m on the very liberal end of the spectrum but I was an enthusiastic cheerer-onner of McCain in the Repub race.
He has consistently disgusted me ever since the selection though, with his pandering to the fundies, brazen lying (about why he opposed Bush’s tax cuts for the rich, for example), Rovian smear tactics and above all, for choosing that ruthless, know-nothing compulsive liar as his running mate. Finding out more about the Keating business, the mafia ties and the crushing of the MIA families and the little people caught up in his wife’s drug theft story certainly made me despise him even more.
He doesn’t give two tosses for America, all he wants is to prove a point to his dead father who never got over his son making propaganda broadcasts for the Vietnamese.
September 29th, 2008 at 9:08 am
Actually Obama and Lincoln are very comparable.
“Name one thing, ONE that Obama has accomplished as Senator that had a positive direct affect on any of his constituents?”
The first thing that comes to mind is video taping police interrogations which did away with accusations of police brutality and increased convictions.
Than there’s ethics reform.
What are McCain’s accomplishments that he actually stands by now?
Anything I think is an accomplishment, he disavows now.
From the Saturday, May 10, 2008
The Arizona Republic: “McCain Not a Maverick”
“But an Arizona Republic analysis of his Senate votes on the most divided issues in the past decade shows that McCain almost never thwarted his party’s objectives.”
Obama worked with Coryn to pass A bill to provide greater transparency in the legislative process.
He worked with Luger on loose nukes.
September 29th, 2008 at 9:17 am
John,
How much have you really delved into everything about Obama that the media isn’t addressing?
I think both sides are using smear tactics to some degree. She isn’t a know-nothing, and she isn’t a Washington insider which is a big change. She is a normal person with the ability to understand the plight of the middle class.
I don’t see how you can say that a man who served his country and has a broken body to prove his love for America doesn’t care? How many of us would take daily beatings living in our own waste, in a tiny room, in pain, lack of medical treatment?
And that is not his only qualification. Biden, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and many other democrats think the world of John McCain.
September 29th, 2008 at 9:22 am
I might add, that you put on your list his shady ties in the past. Why don’t you compare Barack Obama like that?
September 29th, 2008 at 9:23 am
All this stupid ‘prove so and so is qualified’ talk is a bunch of hoo-ha.
All four of them are qualified, IMO Palin is the least qualified, since she has not had any national experience, but lot’s of presidents have not had national experience prior to being elected.
The reason people are voting for whichever ticket they are voting for is because of the issues.
The folks voting for Obama/Biden are voting for that ticket because they agree with their views and stances on various issues important to them. The same is true of McCain/Palin.
September 29th, 2008 at 9:42 am
Finally, a voice of reason. Now the rest of ya’s listen to UM. Both sides are equally qualified. So pick your poison and go with it.
September 29th, 2008 at 10:23 am
I reviewed and continue to review hundres of articles in journals, but I am not running for president. Not sure what point you were trying to make there?
September 29th, 2008 at 11:44 am