Bristol Wedding: McCain Riding Shotgun?
Just in time for the November 4 election, 17-year-old Bristol Palin may make it all legal with a wedding, say “Republican insiders.”
One can imagine the church lady saying, “How convenient!” As the New York Post, a newspaper that supports McCain, puts it:
A cozy family photo op could also be a helpful distraction for the vice-presidential candidate if she can’t hold her own against Democratic veep nominee Joe Biden at this Thursday’s debate, a GOP analyst not affiliated with the campaign told The Post.
A wedding could also allow the McCain camp to reframe Palin in her strongest light: a tough-talking matriarch who puts family first, as evidenced by her devotion to her baby, Trig, who has Down syndrome.
McCain would likely have a front-row seat at a ceremony and be on the receiving end of a boatload of good will.
“What’s the downside?” a McCain source told the paper. “It would be wonderful. I don’t know that there has ever been a pre-election wedding before.”
Another GOP analyst said: “If a wedding occurred, it would be criticized by elites and those who think its gauche. But others will embrace it for the insight it gives into the family. And remember, everyone loves a wedding.”
The Sunday Times of London headlines:
McCain camp prays for Palin wedding
Bristol becomes legal in some states, when she turns 18 on October 18, and the campaign doesn’t want her walking down the aisle when there’s too much to show.
“It would be fantastic,” said a McCain insider. “You would have every TV camera there. The entire country would be watching. It would shut down the race for a week.”
McCain defenders bristle at the idea that any detractor might “attack” Palin’s family for political gain. In fact, Palin has used the claim that Democrats have attacked her family for fundraising purposes. However, the campaign has no problem using the family as a convenient prop when it suits their needs.
poor kid.
he was all happy when he hit the sack with Bristol Palin thinking..
‘hell yea, im gettin layed with the governors teenage
daughter! hell ya!’
and now Sarah the flight attendant nominated as VP, that poor kid who did XYZ with Bristol will be FORCED to get married with Bristol Palin..
..all in the name of politics.
I can just image the poor kid crying to his parents everyday..
‘MA, I DONT TO MARRY THAT GIRL! IT WAS JUST A BOOTY CALL!!!”
LOL
September 28th, 2008 at 11:53 am
At least Sarah ‘greatest mother on earth’ palin will be at the wedding..
Well Sarah ‘the flight attendant’ palin wasn’t there when Bristol was conceived by her bf,… LOL
hopefully she will be at the FORCED WEDDING of her teenage pregenant daugther along with her crying bf.
incredible!
now that is conservative values ladies and gentlemen!
September 28th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Wow it is absolutely amazing. If this were a minority family Hannity would be sitting in judgment. Fox and not fair and balanced. CNN is GREAT!!! Hey Alan stand up for yourself, Hannity has a big mouth but what can one expect from a bigot.
September 28th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
No Bastard Palin children…
September 28th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
If they had held the wedding at the convention, it might have worked. Now nobody cares because Palin has performed so poorly. Furthermore, a shotgun wedding doesn’t make O’Reilly or Hannity any less hypocritical.
September 28th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
I like how you all can sit on here and talk trash abouta 17-year-old minor. In the past children of politicians’ have been off-limits.
I guess that only applies if you are a minority, a man, or a democrat.
You all must be privy to information everyone else doesn’t know about. How do you know he is being “forced” and not just being responsible? Did you ever stop to think perhaps they love each other?
Of course not. you would rather sit back and type trashy comments about a very personal situation all the while karma is keeping track.
September 28th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Alan, you and your followers are disgusting!
September 28th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Is the groom the same guy who said on his website that he had no interest in marriage & children? Hmm. Looks like Palin has taken the aim away from the wolves and sited-in on this poor kid. He’s between a rock and a hard place… look what she tried to do to her ex-brother-in-law. Imagine what she’ll try to do to this young man if he backs out!
September 28th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
alan, If you think they are so bad, why don’t you and other liberals push for them to be put into concentration camps? That would show those Republicans.
September 28th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Alan, I’ve never been to this website before and won’t come again. Your viewers are the vilest talking people I have ever seen. I am ashamed to say that at a point in time, I was a Dem. and supported Obama. Now I remember exactly why I switched.
September 28th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Vicki,
I guess he would be the first man in history to say “I never want kids, and I’m never getting married”.
Boy, you really brought the cat out of the bag there.
Did you ever stop and think maybe, just maybe, some young men try to do the right thing and actually take responsibility for their actions?
Nah, that would be too simple an answer, and not quite as juicy.
September 28th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Absolutely pathetic – How low can one go? Watch Alan and his ILK who just keep bringing the bar lower and lower.
September 28th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Alan you are sick person!! like all the other Democrats LEAVE THAT TEENAGER ALONE
I wish FOX would give you your own show so we can watch hannity in peace without using the mute button every time you come on…;
September 28th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Unbelievable how nasty you Democrats can be. I was a Democrat and from what I read on this site I know why I am voting MCCAIN/PALIN!!!!
The Anti-Christ has you all so blinded…God help us if he is elected! What and we can’t question about Bill Ayers? OBAMA IS A TERRORIST THAT HAS BEEN PLANTED HERE A LONG TIME AGO, THEY PAID FOR HIS EDUCATION, AND FUND HIS CAMPAIGN AND YOU WILL BE ELECTING OUR DOOMS DAY CANDIDATE!!! AND THEN LETS FIND OUT “WHY” ACORN IS ATTACHED TO THE BAILOUT BILL!!! TEACHING OUR CHILDREN RADICAL IDEAS IS THEIR PROGRAM!!!AMERICA IS DOOMED AS WE KNEW IT!!!!!
September 28th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
It was “republican insiders” who apparently want a wedding, so they can use the Palin family for political gain. Mr. Colmes is just reporting what they apparently told London’s Sunday Times. I don’t see any attacks on Bristol Palin or the Palin family in what he posted.
September 28th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
News story on Obama establishing “Truth Squads” who will not tolerate false character attacks and will use criminal justice system against opponents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2DXN3aOSo
The Left is forming their proto-Police State.
Alan will be in charge of Character Assassination.
Democrat officials in cities and towns will be Obama’s eyes/ears. .keeping everyone in check.
September 28th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
My, my, my…on TV you sure think you are “hot chit”…you need to hide behind a liberal column to express your views that you WON’T express on H&C because you think you can “bully people, interrupt them and be rude as he– to people” while SEAN HANNITY has the common descency to let the people talk and “NOT” BE RUDE and OBNOXIOUS…because we KNOW THAT IS YOUR WAY!
What happened to the expression on YOUR SHOW, H&C.. that you “AGREED with YOUR ever so Liberal #1 and even more obnoxious, arrogant Obama” that CHILDREN OF THE CANDIDATES WERE “OFF LIMITS????” AND LOOK WHO GOES AFTER THEM…..IN A COLUMN that nobody probably reads…I got it from a link from Greta’s blog the only reason I knew about it. SEAN HANNITY ROCKS!…Alan Colmes gets “muted” when you are on air! And this column just proves that you are a petty, vile talking jerk that goes after children. Are Democrats so worried about Governor Palin and Senator McCain that you have to ATTACK her children…or are you just “JEALOUS” of Governor Palin’s success, like the rest of the idiot’s out there, that want to take shots at her by going after her pregnant daughter? Hiding behind a column…closet…..or anywhere else you can??
September 28th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
http://www.politickerpa.com/wallyedgepa/1828/obama-launches-pa-truth-squad
Obama launches Pa. Truth Squad
By Wally Edge
Category: President, LocalTags: Barack Obama, Truth Squad, John McCain, Ed Rendell
The Obama campaign today announced they are rolling out the Pennsylvania Truth Squad – a group of elected and community leaders from around the state who they say will be proactive in letting Pennsylvanians know the truth in the face of the distortions by the McCain campaign.
The mission of the Truth Squad will be to respond to accusations the Obama campaign perceive as false.
Truth Squad
Governor Edward Rendell
Senator Bob Casey
Mayor Michael Nutter, Philadelphia
Congressman Robert Brady
Congressman Chaka Fattah
Congresswoman Allyson Schwartz
Congressman Patrick Murphy
Commissioner Michael Washo, Lackawanna County
Commissioner Corey O’Brien, Lackawanna County
Senator Robert Mellow
Mayor John Brenner, York
Mayor Rick Gray, Lancaster
Mayor Tom McMahon, Reading
Mayor Luke Ravenstahl, Pittsburgh
Mayor John Fetterman, Braddock
Allegheny County Executive Dan Onorato
Senator Sean Logan
Lehigh County Executive Don Cunningham
Auditor General Jack Wagner
Kathleen McGinty, Former Secretary of Department of
Environmental Protection
Eileen Connelly, Executive Director, SEIU Pennsylvania State Council
Bill George, President, Pennsylvania AFL-CIO
Commissioner Joseph Hoeffel, Montgomery County
State Representative Joshua Shapiro
Congressman John Murtha
Philadelphia District Attorney Lynne Abraham
September 28th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Wow, the crazies are out today. Thank God the polls show America has more sense than some of the posters here. The attacks against Alan and the supporters of Obama on this site are a great reminder that each of us have a responsibility to educate ourselves about the issues by looking at candidates posted platforms, independent fact checking organizations, the debates, and interviews. And not make decisions by believing unfounded accusations. That’s how countries lose their freedom
September 28th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Countries lose their freedom when Marxists destabilize them , and then run their stealth candidate as if they’re reformers or populists and then once securely in power, they remove your liberties.
Anyone supporting Obama needs to check their brain heart and soul and question why they hate this country so much.
September 28th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
“believing undfounded accusations” Which ones in particular are you calling into question?
Rick,
The fact that the media is still bringing up the personal business of a 17-year-old MINOR is despicable. Think if she were your daughter, sister?
Some of the posts on here are horible in their content, especially dealing with Bristol, her boyfriend, and her family.
September 28th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Keep whining conservatives. It’s funny…
September 28th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I tell you what is funny. A bunch of liberals have nothing better to do with their time than sitting around bashing a minor and her family for something thousands of middle class americans go through on a daily basis.
How very grown up of you all.
I hope if you have daughters someone doesn’t give you the same lack of respect you have given this family if you ever find yourselves in the same situation.
September 28th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
“The entire country would be watching. It would shut down the race for a week.”
Yeah we’ll all be watching until the economy collapses and the lights go out and we’re all on line at the soup kitchen because nobody’s go any gas to get to work and you lost your job anyway because your company went bust.
McCain/Palin: better the country should be destroyed than they lose the election.
September 28th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Rocky,
where exactly is this being talked about the most? who is talking about her pregnancy the most? LIBERALS.
You guys CAN’t leave this alone. It is sickening.
September 28th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
So, is the point of this post that marriage is now a negative thing?
Or is it their heterosexuality?
Or the attendant production of additional carbon footprint?
September 28th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Incredible how conservatives would lecture Americans on family values…
Now, they come to the defense of an un-wed teenage mother!
LOL
hilarious!!!
why? oh yea, she is a republican.
Yup..
Talk about double standard, eh?
September 28th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
HERE IS MY QUESTION:
Where was Sarah ‘the flight attendant’ Palin, when her teenage daughter was being knocked up?
Does anyone know?
and she wants to run this country?
She cant even take care of her own children!!!!
September 28th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Boy, the radical far right on this topic are imploding on Sarah ‘the flight attendant’ palin’s teenage daughter pregnant!
Hey you far righties, dont blame liberals for bringing up this topic of Bristol being pregnant..
Blame Sarah palin who cant even take care of her own children!
Where was she when her teenage daughter was in hotel rooms or in the back seat of a chevy, doing the nasty with her bf?
Where was the mother??
Just like today, Sarah Palin disspears from the press, she also disapeared from taking care of her children!
LOL
September 28th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Wait!
I know where Sarah Palin was when her teenage daughter was being knocked up by her bf!!!
She was protecting americans by watching over the planes that cross her state that come from russia!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hilarious!!
GREAT CHOICE JOHN MCCAIN!
No wonder your poll numbers are in the toilet right now!
LOL
September 28th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
You people are ALL sick puppies if this is all you have to do (go after a teenage girl). Some of the VILE names you have called her. Just what is wronge with you people? I hope this never happens to your family and it just may. Ever hear what goes round comes around. I wonder if it was a man that was running would you do this? Maybe it’s because nobody knows who you are and you can hide behind this BLOG. Alan you should be ashamed of your self going after this woman and her daughter. I have seen some sick things on here but this is the worst. You are all sick people and you should be ashamed of yourself. All this over politics? GOOD BYE I will never return to this BLOG. Alan your the worst because all you do is crank these idots up.
September 28th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Someone else wrote this but I thought I’d share
Why Obama gets stomped in Nov;
The Bradley effect: Tom Bradley was a black LA mayor who ran for Calif Gov..Polls gave him a big lead yet he lost in a landslide…Lefties say it was because Californians are racists, but a better explanation is that those being asked were afraid of being called racist by shrieking lefties…In reality they just didn’t like Bradley’s policies…
The 9/11 effect: Lots of moderate dems & Independents voted for Bush in 04 but will rarely admit it…I know of several who had never voted REpublican prior to 9/11 but now feel that the Dem party has gone too far left & underestimates the Islamic threat.
The “You can’t sit at the cool kids table any more” or ” You’ll never work in this town again” effect…In many places, where liberals predominate, to admit you’re voting for
McCain is to commit social suicide & subject yourself to harsh, contempt filled denunciations by sanctimonious libs who are absolutely positive that your choice of a candidate is proof of your moral and intellectual inferiority….
In other venues such as academia, hollywood, unions and anywhere your boss is an obamanaut, revealing your true political views can negatively affect your career….So People don’t…
The Jewish Vote: always important to Democratic candidates, many Jews are alarmed at at Obama’s connections to the likes of Rev Wright & Farrakan…His seeming soft stance towards Iran’s leader,ImaNutJob..I think many Jews see disturbing similarities between now and the late 30s and between ImaNutJob and Hitler….Though Jews may be reluctant to admit it publicly,I suspect McCain will get more Jewish votes then any Republican Presidential candidate ever..
A poll I saw on the Shrinkwrapped blog indicated that 52% of New York’s Jews favor McCain to 38% for Obama…
RE: The confiscation of guns….Word on many gun forums is that in many places around the country, guns, ammo and loading gear are flying off the shelves in anticipation of an Obama victory, coupled with fears of an economic and social breakdown…Many dealers can’t keep up with demand…Do you have any idea of the military force it would take to confiscate guns in the most heavily armed nation in history….And would the military and LEO communities, which tend to be conservative, forcefully take guns from their friends and relatives??Civil War and Coup D’ etat anyone??
September 28th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
WORKING MOM oh shut up..
if this would of been Chelsea Clinton, you would be the first loon slamming her and her parents..
so stop the double standard.
September 28th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Or if Obama had a teenage daughter who was pregnant?
OY VAY!
It would be a ‘reflection of the morals of “those people”.
September 28th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
If obama’s daughters got pregnant when their older, we would not know because he would make sure they got an abortion. How many liberals in the government have grandkids born a little early after the wedding?
September 28th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
It was “republican insiders” who apparently want a wedding, so they can use the Palin family for political gain. Mr. Colmes is just reporting what they apparently told London’s Sunday Times. I don’t see any attacks on Bristol Palin or the Palin family in what he posted.
Posted by Rick
——————————————–
Why even bring up the family? It’s hurting the kids–does that not make a difference? Don’t say that’s too bad because it’s the parents’ fault. Someone has to quit treating the family like trash. Maybe the writers treat their own family that way so they don’t know any difference. People who read the articles should know.
September 28th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Bye-bye Working Mom.
September 28th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Joe Biden tells guys in wheelchairs to STAND UP ! LOLLLLLLLL !
September 28th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Like mother like daughter…the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Bristol should just elope just like her parents did.
September 28th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Wow! I read about this blog on another site. Had to see for myself.
I’m ashamed of you Alan. This has absolutely nothing to do with the country’s issues. It’s alarming to see what you dems really find important.
Gov. Palen’s family is OFF LIMITS, as are all people in high gov. positions.
Good grief! This only makes YOU look dumb.
September 28th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
” In the past children of politicians’ have been off-limits.”
Yeah like when Maverick John McCain and drug-crazed Rush Limbaugh told disgusting sexist jokes about Chelsea Clinton.
Another point isn’t the father-to-be of this upcoming Palinette technically and legally a rapist and a paedophile??
September 28th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
If obama’s daughters got pregnant when their older, we would not know because he would make sure they got an abortion. How many liberals in the government have grandkids born a little early after the wedding?
Posted by Renee
……………………………..
You have NO idea who would or would not have an abortion.
Are you saying there are no pregnant teens who are from the families of Democrats?
Not even those in the urban areas, so all those who are on welfare are conservative Republicans?
The teen pregnancy rates are ALWAYS lower where there is abstinence BASED education instead of abstinenced ONLY.
And REALLY are you REALLY trying to say the right does not question the morals of poor blacks and latinos who get pregnant at that age?
Please!
Remember, when the Spears girl got pregnant at 16, Bill O Rielly said it was the fault of the parents.
September 28th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
louie the liberal,
YOU SHUT UP i’m sick of you people. Your the nastiest lot i have ever seen. You will never have any luck bashing a young girl. She has nothing to do with politics…just what is wrong with you? Alan doesn’t help he just feeds you.
September 28th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
The Phony Outrage of conservatives shows its ugly head again. It’s okay to be hate filled and spread lies about Obama and his wife, but leave idiot Palin and her “Family Values” family alone.
And another idiot brings up Obama and abortion. As if when Obama is President, abortions will be rampant. If you bring up abortion on every topic, it loses its power. Why don’t you cons stop whining about Bristol and her irresponsible actions…
How about Palin, the mother, the woman, who wanted to charge rape victims for their exams.
Now that is family values!!!
September 28th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
working mom, leave this site if you’re so disgusted. Maybe you can curl up in a ball on the floor and cry yourself to sleep about the injustices of the wacky Palin compound…
September 28th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
It’s not phony outrage … it’s real outrage.
Keep it up.. you only increase the resolve people have to make sure your anti-american marxist doesn’t see the white house
September 28th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
FuRyUs,
Don’t worry I won’t be back. Politics ok but not this you people have really gone over the edge this time. All you will have left here are people that say vile things about young girls. I hope it makes you feel good to run down a young girl that you don’t even know.
September 28th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Working Mom: They have no conscience at all. They’re like craven decadent hyenas.
They are the evidence of the moral bankruptcy building in this country and leading to its downfall.
September 28th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Vince P,
I don’t know why these people hate so much and hate this country. I can hold my own in politics but this isn’t political…it’s just trashing a young woman. No matter if it’s democrats or republicans i wouldn’t like it. These people have no class and have nothing else to do. I just don’t believe an adult would talk like this.
September 28th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
What if Obama told a joke about Palin’s kid like the one McCain told about Chelsea Clinton and Janet Reno?
September 28th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Renee wrote: Why even bring up the family? It’s hurting the kids–does that not make a difference? Don’t say that’s too bad because it’s the parents’ fault. Someone has to quit treating the family like trash. Maybe the writers treat their own family that way so they don’t know any difference. People who read the articles should know.
I don’t really disagree with you on any of your points (although I don’t blame the parents, even if you thought that I would). And, as the republican insiders said, I do love a good wedding. Here’s the bottom line for me. We know how the media here in the US works. People are voyeuristic, and the media caters to that. I’m not saying it’s right, but clearly it’s there. Just look at the ratings reality shows get. Whether it is Lynn Spears or any other “celeb,” people will care, and the media will feed on it. If the Palin family decides to have the wedding before the election (which they have every right to do), it will become political, whether they want it to or not. And it will become political on both sides of the “political” aisle, as evidenced by the article cited above. That having been said, I (as well as many others) are interested in the decision they ultimately make, even if it is none of my (or anyone else’s except the families involved) business.
September 28th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Vince said:
OldLefty brought up a good point. Were you equally indignant when McCain made fun of Chelsea?
Is he part of the ‘they’ you refer to being a decadent hyena?
Though I’m not saying McCain excuses the weird fascination everyone seems to have w/ this kid, everyone should just leave her alone.
September 28th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Marxist blah blah blah blah blah blah
Come on Vinnie Pee, You’re like David Duke with his Zionist phrase…
September 28th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Um Cara, conservatives don’t believe in hypocrisy. They just like stamping their feet in phony outrage over everything. Even if they do the same thing. Outrage only counts when a cons delicate little feelings are hurt…
September 28th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
What if the “How do we beat the B**ch” comment had come from the Obama camp, about Palin?
Remember, He just laughed, and said, “good question.”
September 28th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
FYI, they would not post this comment till I changed the B word.
September 28th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
OldLefty,
Why do you bring this young girl into this. This should be political not Bristol bashing. SHAME!!!
September 28th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Barack Obama leads John McCain, 50% to 42%, among registered voters in the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update for Thursday, Friday, and Saturday — just one point shy of his strongest showing of the year.
Read more at GALLUP.com.
:)
September 28th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Oldlefty,
Re: McCain and the good point.
That really was probably the most sexist thing I have heard in this campaign so far (directly from any candidate)
Weird how the Palin protectors didn’t jump on him about that, isn’t it?
September 28th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
OLDLEFTY is meating revenge on the Palins because of McCain.
That’s how tribal these idiot Leftists are getting. As if the two things have anything to do with one another.. as if the Palins are responsible for something that happened more than a decade ago that he apologized for.
That’s how these idiot Leftists think you know.. it’s the worst kind of Groupthink together with Malignant Narcissism.
And yes, I thought it was wrong for McCain to make jokes about Chelsea. But why does the Left care about that? Obviously its not out of line to attack the family.. they do it with glee. They gladly and viciously do it.
September 28th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
About the old lady who called H a B
When a person reaches that age, they’re entitled to say whatever they want , and dont need a politician lecturing them how to talk.
September 28th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
I love how Republicans call everything they disagree with Marxist. I doubt if any of them have a clue what they are talking about. They also use Marxist and Socialist interchangeably – a surefire sign they are completely ignorant on the subject. For your information – the collapse of the capital markets was correctly predicted in Marx’s writing – he called it the Crisis of Capitalism. The Bush repsonse – a Socialist-style public bail-out however was not predicted – Marx believed the workers would rise up and seize the means of production themselves. Marx and Engels saw Socialism as an evil – a perhaps unavoidable stage on the way to Communism – but whatever you say about Karl Marx – he was no Socialist.
September 28th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Vince,
I think OldLefty is bringing up the hypocrisy of it all, more so than trying to say ‘they deserve it because they do it too’. Though I am not personally so interested in hypocrisy as many on both the left and the right are.
Jonah Goldberg (National Review) has written quite a bit about hypocrisy, and I tend to agree with him. I mean, he is wrong about most things, but he is an excellent writer, and, in my opinion, correct about hypocrisy.
September 28th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
uc: when I was 5 years old I did the “Well Bobby did it too” excuse to my parents, but it never worked.
September 28th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Vince said:
You shouldn’t bring up McCain’s age, Vince!
But seriously, sure, no need to lecture her – but he didn’t have to say it was a ‘good point’, he should have said something senatorial like ‘I understand your passion about my respected colleague from New York, but…”
For him to say good point was bad because it was classless, and not very senatorial (not bad because it was hypocritical, it was bad because it was bad)
September 28th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
About the old lady who called H a B
…………………….
It’s not the supporter, it’s McCain’s laughing and saying, Good question.
Um Cara is right about the hypocrisy of it all:
The right would be on the fainting couch if Obama treated Palin like McCain has treated the Clinton women.
September 28th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Vince,
when I was 5 years old I did the “Well Bobby did it too” excuse to my parents, but it never worked.
I agree with you – if you haven’t read Goldberg talking about hypocrisy, you should – I’m almost certain you would agree w/him (and he’s almost always a good read)
Just pointing out that some of this outrage might be political, since it seems pretty one sided
September 28th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
While we have so many lovely visitors from Cloud Cuckoo Land (presumably sent by the Malkins and other gorgeous haters), here’s a few quotes from Palin’s running mate you may wish to defend…
“Next up, Baghdad!”
John McCain, aboard the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt, January 2, 2002.
“I am very certain that this military engagement will not be very difficult.”
John McCain, September 12, 2002.
“Look, we’re going to send young men and women in harm’s way and that’s always a great danger, but I cannot believe that there is an Iraqi soldier who is going to be willing to die for Saddam Hussein, particularly since he will know that our objective is to remove Saddam Hussein from power.”
John McCain, September 15, 2002.
“He’s a patriot who has the best interests of his country at heart.”
John McCain, on Ahmed Chalabi, 2003.
“I think we’re doing fine [in Afghanistan]…I think we’ll do fine. The second phase – if I could just make one, very quickly – the second phase is Iraq. There is some indication, and I don’t have the conclusions, but some of this anthrax may – and I emphasize may – have come from Iraq.”
John McCain, on the fall 2001 anthrax attacks in the U.S., October 18, 2001.
“Proponents of containment claim that Iraq is in a “box.” But it is a box with no lid, no bottom, and whose sides are falling out. Within this box are definitive footprints of germ, chemical and nuclear programs.”
John McCain, February 13, 2003.
“I remain confident that we will find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.”
John McCain, June 11, 2003.
“Absolutely. Absolutely.”
John McCain, asked by Chris Matthews, “you believe that the people of Iraq or at least a large number of them will treat us as liberators?” March 12, 2003.
“Not only that, they’ll be relieved that he’s not in the neighborhood because he has invaded his neighbors on several occasions.”
John McCain, asked by Chris Matthews, “And you think the Arab world will come to a grudging recognition that what we did was necessary?” March 12, 2003.
“There’s no doubt in my mind that we will prevail and there’s no doubt in my mind, once these people are gone, that we will be welcomed as liberators.”
John McCain, March 24, 2003.
“I think the victory will be rapid, within about three weeks.”
John McCain, January 28, 2003.
“It’s clear that the end is very much in sight…It won’t be long. It, it’ll be a fairly short period of time.”
John McCain, April 9, 2003.
“We won a massive victory in a few weeks, and we did so with very limited loss of American and allied lives.”
John McCain, May 22, 2003.
“I thought it was wrong at the time. Do I blame him for that specific banner? I can’t.”
John McCain, on President Bush’s “Mission Accomplished” speech, May 1, 2008.
“Well, then why was there a banner that said mission accomplished on the aircraft carrier?”
John McCain, responding to assertion by Fox News’ Neil Cavuto that “many argue the conflict isn’t over,” June 11, 2003.
“I have said a long time that reconstruction of Iraq would be a long, long, difficult process, but the conflict — the major conflict is over, the regime change has been accomplished, and it’s very appropriate.”
John McCain, June 11, 2003.
“I’m confident we’re on the right course.”
John McCain, March 7, 2004.
“We’re either going to lose this thing or win this thing within the next several months.”
John McCain, November 12, 2006.
“My friends, the war will be over soon, the war for all intents and purposes although the insurgency will go on for years and years and years.”
John McCain, February 25, 2008.
“[There] there “are neighborhoods in Baghdad where you and I could walk through those neighborhoods, today.”
John McCain, after touring a Baghdad market wearing a bulletproof vest and guarded by “100 American soldiers, with three Blackhawk helicopters, and two Apache gunships overhead, April 1, 2007.
September 28th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Face it guys, you’re fecked :)
September 28th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Fantastic post John!
Though let’s not forget, he was right about the surge. They are still working out the details of the proper banner to proclaim it, but since the surge worked, I just know they are already fueling up the planes to bring our guys and gals home.
September 28th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
That surge thing just about sums up the mentality of our opponents, Um. I don’t think Barack has handled the question particularly well, but how do yo convey a relatively complex argument in a Yes or No ‘Have you stopped beating your wife?’ soundbite?
Everyone with half a brain knew that removing the evil Saddam would create chaos. Like Colin Powell said, ‘You break it, you own it.’ There were 3 distinct groups in Iraq, each of which hated the others – not just because of the religious differences that had been rising throughout the mid-east, but also because of the viciousness and unequal treatment they had endured under Saddam.
Bush may have been stupid enough to believe the story his handlers fed him, but I can’t imagine that anyone else in the neocon cabal didn’t understand that ripping the scab off Iraq would unleash an unpredictable, unstable hell.
Of course pouring tens of thousands more troops in was going to put a temporary lid on the situation, but unless they could remove the underlying rivalries and hatred, all the surge could ever do is postpone the carnage.
So have they sorted out any lasting solutions to the political mess? Of course not.
But the surge has worked! The surge has worked! The surge has worked! Oh well, you’ll just get your young people’s carcases airlifted back (no photos please) on a drip-feed basis, not in big bunches like before.
September 28th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
John,
Agree with everything you said.
But we really should not discourage them from saying the surge worked. Let’s agree with them. All hail Bush! The surge worked!
Now let’s get everyone home, damn it. We won, they keep telling us so, so it must be true.
September 28th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
I don’t think it should be “all hail bush”. All Hail the military personnel who have worked their butts off to do this. And thank their families while you are at it.
Then give credit to the people who stuck to their guns regardless of polls and negative nellies. The President included.
After all, our hinies have been safe since 9/11.
September 28th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
T. Mason,
O.K. I’ll thank myself since I am part of a military family. And thanks to all of the other military families too. And I would be thanking the guys and gals doing the fighting, regardless of the policy – which is what I was talking about.
Now, bring my family home, damn it. We won! Woo hoo!!
September 28th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Someone, can’t recall who and I don’t feel like scrolling said that the outrage most of us feel about the fact that this young lady is being trashed constantly is hypocritical and we would never feel that way about a democrat.
I can speak for myself and tell you my outrage is genuine and it is across the board. I do not like the comment McCain made about Chelsea Clinton. I don’t know if he has, but he should have apologized for that.
After saying that I am sure that many on this board feel NO remorse abou the comments they callously made about a MINOR and her parents. I think this topic was a poor one and it has NOTHING to do with the issues of this election.
I might remind you that Obama’s mother was a teenager when she had him, and you don’t see the other side claiming she was a horrible person or that her parents didn’t raise her right.
I am sick and tired of the media and everyone else trashing this 17-year-old girl and her family for the choices she and her boyfriend made. Most girls don’t plan on getting pregnant, and a lot don’t own up to their responsibilities. A lot of young men would run away.
Good parents have good kids who are in these situations everyday. To suggest that a mistake means you are trashy and do not deserve privacy is immature and ignorant. To say that Governor Palin is a horrible mother and was not watching her daughter is an assumption and it is unfounded.
September 28th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Hey T. Mason,
As far as McCain insulting various Clintons…
McCain did indeed apologize for his insult to Chelsae.
I don’t think he apologized for his recent giggling when his supporter called Hillary Clinton ‘the B word’ (the actual word get’s caught by the profanity filter on the blog, apparently)
September 28th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
oops… should have said insult ‘about’ Chelsae, not ‘to’ Chelsae… As far as I know he did not man up and apologize personally.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
T – remember that the half-baked Alaskan chose to put her family through this. Didn’t hesitate for a moment.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Did he apologise for calling his wife a c**t and a trollop? Not the first wife, she seems very nice, the drug freak thief mafia heiress I’m talking about.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Is Working Mom gone yet?
September 28th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
I don’t know Budda, say a dirty word and see if she chastises you or not…. Here, I’ll go..
Oh Fudge!
If she doesn’t respond with a complaint about my potty mouth within ten minutes, I think you can assume she has checked out for the day.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
John,
I don’t know many adult parents who believe other “adults” will insult a child, and she is still a child the way so many have.
Believe it or not, she didn’t say “well my daughter’s pregnant what can I do to humiliate her”. You are acting as if she is a bad mother for choosing to run for office because her daughter is experiencing something THOUSANDS of young women exprience.
For the supposed party who is for women’s rights, you sure don’t support her right to choose to keep her baby.
There is no reason for it. I don’t look at girls in her situation and say “where were her parents” “what kind of parents does she have” “she is trash”.
For a group of adults to speak about, type about this young lady the way they have is inexcusable, immature and infuriating.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
I think she’s REALLY gone!!! Let’s face it folks Sarah Palin “didn’t blink” because she is a control freak, she wanted the power. She obviously incapable of any type of rational introspection, otherwise she would have known she was ill suited for the position. She simply didn’t care, blinded by the spotlights.
September 28th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
WORKING MOM
You shut up!
It is incredible how radicals like you ‘WORKING MOM’ come to the defense of an un-wed pregnant teenage mother just because her mother is the VP for the Mark Foley Republican Party.
I keep hearing crap from people like you ‘WORKING MOM’ about morals and conservative values and family values..
Finally, a republican VP candidate own teenage daughter was knocked up and yet your defending it?
WORKING MOM your a hypocrite and it just shows your double standard!
If Bristol Palin was would be named Briston Clinton, your furry ass would be all over it smearing the clintons and liberals
SO WORKING MOM, SHUT UP BECAUSE IM SICK AND TIRED OF THE RADICAL FAR RIGHT DOUBLE STANDARD AND HYPOCRACY OVER THIS ISSUE.
WORKING MOM, YOU should be ashamed of yourself defending a teenage girl having sex !
WORKING MOM, YOU should be ashamed of yourself of
defending the parents, Sarah Palin, of not knowing
this and you should be asking where are the parents!
IF BRISTOL PALIN TEENAGE PREGNANCY IS AN EXAMPLE OF SARAH PALIN’S LEADERSHIP, THEN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS RUINED IN 2008!
AND YOU ALL RADICAL FAR RIGHT LOONS KNOW IT!
You want to know how you know Sarah Palin is the worst candidate for McCain….
JUST LOOK AT THE POLLS!
i rest my case.
September 28th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
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John,
I don’t know many adult parents who believe other “adults” will insult a child, and she is still a child the way so many have.
Believe it or not, she didn’t say “well my daughter’s pregnant what can I do to humiliate her”. You are acting as if she is a bad mother for choosing to run for office because her daughter is experiencing something THOUSANDS of young women exprience.
For the supposed party who is for women’s rights, you sure don’t support her right to choose to keep her baby.
There is no reason for it. I don’t look at girls in her situation and say “where were her parents” “what kind of parents does she have” “she is trash”.
For a group of adults to speak about, type about this young lady the way they have is inexcusable, immature and infuriating.
Posted by T. Mason
September 28th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
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john and louie probably have no kids–just pet goldfish or maybe a “canadian pig”—->>>>> need to read greta van susteren’s blog for that explanation. I’m finished with this blog.
September 28th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Oreilly said that Mooselini supervised her daughter,you mean she watched ? As we see abstinence don’t work but condoms do.
September 28th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
It’s very easy to see where everyones priorities are. You people are like rabid dogs. Didn’t your mothers teach you any better? Alan is the worst.
September 29th, 2008 at 3:46 am
None of you will have Sarah Palin and her family to kick around much longer because after the VP debate she will be back in Alaska killing small animals and drinking lite beer while “Uncle Joe” takes her spot. Remember you heard it here first. OBAMA/BIDEN ‘08
September 29th, 2008 at 7:23 am
I can’t see her lasting till the VP debate… how could they possibly survive the total humiliation that would bring? But what will be the cover story?
My scenario has Bristol suffering a tragic miscarriage (of her non-existent foetus) on about Wednesday, with poor Sarah having to pull out of the debate and Yellow Dog’s greasy old creep of an uncle (ooh, shudder) stepping in temporarily. With great regret a few days, maybe a week later, the gallant Sarah will break it to the elderly untruth merchant that she just has to put her family first. Regretfully accepting her decision, McCain will then call upon not Lieberman but Pawlenty to replace her.
September 29th, 2008 at 8:20 am
Vince P, you said, “Countries lose their freedom …then once securely in power, they remove your liberties.”
What the hell do you think has been happening since Bush has been in office? I have a quote for you: “Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security, will deserve neither and lose both.” Benjamin Franklin
As for the whole Bristol issue. I don’t think a parent can be or should be held accountable for all the poor decisions a teenager makes. But, what I do wonder about is a mother who would voluntary choose to do something (like run for vice-president) that would subject her under-age daughter to national scrutiny. That is what Palin did and I can’t really say that I think that was a great choice for a mom to make. Mom of the year? I don’t think so.
September 29th, 2008 at 10:17 am
So anyone with children shouldn’t run for public office because the general public/press can’t act like grown-ups when dealing with a situation that involves a minor?
September 29th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Someone who only supports abstinence and who knows their unwed daughter is pregnant should not be shocked if the public and press talk about it. And yes, I think the adult is to be held accountable when their decisions affect their minor children. One can only ask themselves if it is a decision they would have made. Humiliate child further or run for office…you decide. Not surprisingly, another response by you that is a completely knee jerk reaction. No one ever said that anyone with children shouldn’t run for office. I said KNOWINGLY subjecting a child to national scrutiny is not something I respect in a mother. If she had remained in AL it would have never made the news in the lower 48.
September 29th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Carol M. said:
Alan is the worst.
I guess you are talking about talk show hosts…
Michael Savage is the worst (as far as nationally syndicated hosts go)
Rush is right up there with Savage
Alan is a pretty decent guy, IMO
While some of the posters are being fairly nasty about Palin and her daughter – Alan seems to think it will be interesting if McCain/Palin use this event to their advantage. I share the interest – let’s see if Palin keeps the wedding very private / doesn’t talk about it / etc… Hopefully she will, her daughter has enough on her plate, she doesn’t need a bunch of publicity.
September 29th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Interesting, or an opportunity to trash this family further?
September 29th, 2008 at 11:53 am
T. Mason asked:
Interesting, or an opportunity to trash this family further?
Not sure if that is directed at me or Alan. I at least think I stand on pretty firm ground in saying that I have never trashed her family.
Alan has brought up her family in ways that I do not agree should be ‘fair game’ – I just don’t think the question on this particular blog entry is ‘trashing’ her family.
September 29th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Is working mom still gone? ” Silence is golden!”
September 29th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Kuvas,
I don’t make decisions as a parent based on what other people think. I never would have dreamed in a million years that “adults” would scrutinize, attack, demonize, trash a 17-year-old girl. I am betting that her mother didn’t either.
The media/others to my knowledge have never went into attack mode so quickly over a personal dilemma.
It does not make her a bad mother, her daughter is not trash. Where is all the compassionate democrats I keep hearing so much about?
Would you be as critical about a father who chose to run for office? We have one running for office now with young daughters who will come of age during his administration if he is elected. Should they be under such harsh scrutiny?
September 29th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
I hope this young man will look to his own parents for guidance and listen to his own heart as well, it will tell him what he wants to do. A pressured commitment will only end in disaster. I would hope the Palin clan would be intelligent enough to not put pressure on this young couple with some kind of the right thing to do crap. I feel sorry for these poor kids,I hope they are allowed to make their own decision that will effect their lives so profoundly.
September 29th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
T. Mason. You seem to have an uncanny gift for seeing only what you want to see…Jamie Lynn Spears ever heard of her? AK does have television and newspapers and to think that Palin (or you) did not see the NATIONAL news coverage that that teenager got when she announced she was pregnant is just absurd. And to suggest that Palin could not have foreseen that her daughter (indeed her family) would be news would only be proof of her naivety and a lack of critical thinking skills. Great that you do not make parental decisions based on what others think, nor should you. But, should you consider the repercussions your decisions might have on your children…absolutely.
Yes, I would be as critical of a father who chose to make his family national news when he knew that his child would be humiliated. Good grief, I remember when I was 16/17 and everything was big deal! Even if the press and everyone in the country was “nice” about it, I would have been embarrassed (for myself and my parents).
Please don’t try to make this about me, I have never criticized Palin’s daughter, I am a realist. Teenagers have sex; abstinence does not work because teenagers don’t think “it” will happen to them whether “it” is an SDT, pregnancy or AIDS.
Can you see any light other than your own? Even a very distant star? Sometimes you can learn something from someone else’s point of view; You don’t have to agree with them, but you should be able to admit they have a point.
September 29th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Um Cara -
No, I am talking about being human. Alan knows what kind of audience he has on this blog. He seems to always have topics that lean more to personnal attacks instead of anything relevant to the election.
How can they can keep this private? Alan wouldn’t let them. He’ll be the first one on talking about it.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:03 pm