Where In The World Was John McCain?
Here’s where he wasn’t: engaged in bail-out negotiations. Instead, while lawmakers were finalizing a deal, the McCains were dining with the Liebermans at Cafe Mozu in DC’s Mandarin Oriental Hotel.
Instead of the bipartisan approach McCain claimed he’d offer, he spoke almost exclusively with Republicans:
President Bush
Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH)
Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ)
House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH)
House Minority Whip Roy Blunt (R-MO)
And, instead of spending his time on Capital Hill, which is why he made a big show of galloping back to Washington in the first place, he spent his time almost entirely in his Arlington apartment.
Asked why Mr. McCain did not go to Capitol Hill after coming back to Washington to help with negotiations, [McCain advisor Mark] Salter replied that “he can effectively do what he needs to do by phone.”
McCainiacs waxed ecstatically about McCain’s erratic, last-minute attempt to throw the first presidential debate into upheaval, and how this would show great leadership. In the end, it was a bust, and the campaign that was never really suspended after all, is still looking for that game-changer.
It gives me great heart that even if they did find some real scandal at this point, McCain, Palin and the whole damned campaign have established themselves as such shameless liars, no-one except the existing flock would believe them :)
September 29th, 2008 at 3:08 am
Exactly, those two are better known as, Dumb and Dumber
September 29th, 2008 at 3:16 am
More great reading…
PRINCETON, NJ — Barack Obama leads John McCain, 50% to 42% among registered voters in the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update for Thursday, Friday, and Saturday — just one point shy of his strongest showing of the year.
These results, from Sept. 25-27, span the time period since John McCain made the announcement that he was temporarily suspending his campaign and returning to Washington to work for a bipartisan solution to the financial crisis, and since Congressional leaders first announced progress towards the resolution of a financial bailout bill. The results also include one complete day (Saturday) after the first presidential debate on Friday night. McCain had reached a point where he was tied with Obama earlier in the week, but Obama has gained steadily in each of the last three days’ reports. Overall, Obama has gained four percentage points over the last three days, while McCain has lost four points, for an eight-point swing in the “gap” or margin.
September 29th, 2008 at 7:16 am
375-163… what a nice pair of numbers.
With Colorado, Iowa, New Mexico and Virginia long gone from red to blue and Florida, Indiana, Nth Carolina, Ohio and Missouri teetering on the tipping point BEFORE Barack’s latest 8-point surge nationally, looks like we got ourselves a rout, folks.
The Senate looks like it will be 61-59 at most or more likely 60-40. Is that significant?
September 29th, 2008 at 7:54 am
McCain was in Washington, while Obama forged ahead with campaign events as if he weren’t already leading in the polls. McCain stopped making public, political, partisan statements (more or less) while Obama escalated his politicking.
And then there is Obama’s macho claims of already being assured to win (”They don’t know what they’re up against!”). Obama and the Dems are utterly dismissing McCain. Some would call that smug.
The conventional wisdom is that McCain is faltering, but Obama’s actions could be read as more than a little desperate, too.
September 29th, 2008 at 9:46 am
McCain was the one one engaging in the politicking, he reminded me more of the overly dramatic child, who threatens to run away from home while the grownups say, “All right then, Dear, drop us a line”.
He comes back pretending like nothing happened.
And then puts an ad in the online WSJ, declaring himself the winner.
September 29th, 2008 at 9:57 am
Adrien mentioned:
McCain was in Washington, while Obama forged ahead with campaign events
Yep, McCain was in Washington, where he spent time in his home and his campaign headquarters. He stayed in touch on the phone w/ congress.
Obama was on the road, campaigning, and he stayed in touch on the phone w/ congress.
No big difference, other than perhaps McCain needed a bit of rest, so it was better for him to hang out in his house a bit, while Obama was multitasking.
September 29th, 2008 at 10:09 am
You never quit your campaign for any reason! This is something that translates in any language and any region of America. Country Folks aren’t stupid. A quitter is a quitter and we don’t want a quitter in the White House. Clinton avoided impeachment by refusing to quit. Bush avoided impeachment by refusing to quit lying. McCain quit his campaign. There’s no getting around this fact for any reason. McCain lost the election when he selected Sarah Palin to be President if he died. America can see this man must be senile or tired. That could be why there’s more interest in Sarah than McCain? Sadly, she just isn’t qualified to be President. If Democrats can avoid being “Male Chauvanist Pigs” there’s little or nothing she can do with her lipstick. McCain is done!
September 29th, 2008 at 10:17 am
The narrative on who did what to assist in saving the economy hasn’t been written yet, since nothing’s passed yet.
The fact is, Obama’s not just multitasking, he is talking out of both sides of his mouth. He thinks he can legislate while ridiculing McCain on the stump, ok fine. But he can’t also claim to be any sort of bipartisan, or playing any role actively bringing people together to vote (yea or nay). He’s actually said that he’ll just wait until Pelosi and Reid need him! That’s not convincing leadership on a critical issue.
September 29th, 2008 at 10:45 am
Adrien,
It’s kind of hard to run for president in a ‘bipartisan’ way. McCain’s ads that have continued to run during his ‘hiatus’ from campaigning are not all that ‘bipartisan’.
September 29th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Alan, I can’t wait for the October surprise the GOP is preparing for Obama. I hope Hannity brings out today the video showing your friends in 2004 obstructing the regulator of Fannie Mae. Listen to them stating there is nothing wrong with Fannie Mae. Also, I’m glad that they removed the money for ACORN; I’m sure OBAMA THE MESSIAH is very upset by it.
September 29th, 2008 at 11:12 am
“And then there is Obama’s macho claims of already being assured to win.”
No such claim was ever made.
“Obama and the Dems are utterly dismissing McCain. Some would call that smug.”
I would call it an utter fiction. But of course when it comes to “fiction” and other falsehoods the Republicans are hard to beat.
September 29th, 2008 at 11:18 am
Dalia worships Obama:
I’m sure OBAMA THE MESSIAH is very upset by it.
Look Dalia, I like Obama too – but there are quite a few very religious folks on this blog who probably don’t appreciate you comparing him to the Messiah.
However, if it is your sincere belief that he IS the Messiah, please excuse my comment, as I have no desire to make fun of anyone’s sincere religious beliefs.
September 29th, 2008 at 11:21 am
McCain won’t acknowledge his own voting record.
Now he’s trying to take credit for this bail out when he is the one who’s presence delayed it. Someone needs to tell McCain that people are paying attention to his constant lies. McCain and Palin are proving they will say and do anything and are counting on the stupidity of Americans. The debate on Thursday will sink McCain in the polls. This time next week McCain will be scrambling to think of a way to overtake Obama. Just like Hillary did in the primaries. Obama will win. There is nothing to stop it now…
September 29th, 2008 at 11:21 am
These conservative posts are cute.
They never talk about McCain/Palin ideas to help the country. They just attack Obama. They are all the same. Except Vinnie Pee of course. He just repeats Marxist over and over and cuts and pastes similar viewpoints and arranges them in a neat little outline form. It’s saying a lot for Republican desperation when they don’t support a candidate on issues and just hatred of the other.
Pathetic…
September 29th, 2008 at 11:27 am
McCain can’ lie his way into the White House. Even that idiot Dubya realized you had to get into the White House first and THEN start lying…
September 29th, 2008 at 11:29 am
oops can’t lie hahaha
September 29th, 2008 at 11:33 am
The bailout of Wall Street with public money is absolutely essential, and will stand as a jewel in the legacy of the Cheney/Bush Administration and their Christian Socialist Party.
September 29th, 2008 at 11:58 am
But the McCain Campaign is trying to blame it on the Dems now…
September 29th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
The democrats have just as much blame to tote for this economy as anyone else, particularly the fannie/freddie debacle.
September 29th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
From a speech given by Bush in 2002:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021015-7.htmlin
Freddie Mac recently began 25 initiatives around the country to dismantle barriers and create greater opportunities for homeownership. One of the programs is designed to help deserving families who have bad credit histories to qualify for homeownership loans.
And then there’s my friend Kirbyjon Caldwell. He not only provides counseling and job training, he actually decided to encourage a development of homes in the Houston area. People — low-income people are going to be able to more afford a home in Texas because of Kirbyjon’s vision and work. He’s answered the call of faith to help people help themselves and to help them realize dreams.
The other thing Kirbyjon told me, which I really appreciate, is you don’t have to have a lousy home for first-time home buyers. If you put your mind to it, the first-time home buyer, the low-income home buyer can have just as nice a house as anybody else. And I know Kirbyjon. He is what I call a social entrepreneur who is using his platform as a Methodist preacher to improve the neighborhood and the community in which he lives.
Of particular interest is:
“One of the programs is designed to help deserving families who have bad credit histories to qualify for homeownership loans.”
“you don’t have to have a lousy home for first-time home buyers. If you put your mind to it, the first-time home buyer, the low-income home buyer can have just as nice a house as anybody else.”
September 29th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
We all continue to hear about Palin’s executive experience. And she continues to lie, despite well documented information to the contrary, about the bridge to nowhere. She was indeed ” for it before she was against it.” She only backed off after it became so unpopular that she could no longer support; however, she continues the same inane lie.The following is an example, just one in a litany of many, of her executive management. ” When there was a vacancy at the top of the state Division of Agriculture, she appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95000.00 a year directorship. A former real estate agent. Havemeister cited her childhood love as cows as one of her qualifications for running the roughly $2 million agengy.” Sound familiar: Michael Brown and FEMA. Regardless of what some on this website believe it is totally innappropriate for the FIRST DUDE to be contacting ANYONE about the firing of trooper Wooten. Another administration that feels they are above the law.They are now so above the law they don’t even have to testify.
September 29th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Susan said:
We all continue to hear about Palin’s executive experience. And she continues to lie…
In fairness executive experience and lying seem to go hand in hand, unfortunately.
September 29th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Take a look at the people by their own words on who caused the Fannie and Freddie problem. Look at who was trying to fix. Most of you will not be able to handle the truth. Watch this. I dare you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
Dems cause problems, republicans have to fix.
September 29th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Tedd – Republicans couldn’t fix a problem if it was biting them in the A$$. After 8 years of their total incompetence it will be a breath of fresh air when Democrats hold the White House, House and a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate come NOV. Then we’ll finally see some problem-solving – and after the last 8 years we NEED a lot. NO MORE REPUBLICAN AND CONSERVATIVE LIES!!!
September 29th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Take a look at the people by their own words on who caused the Fannie and Freddie problem.-Posted by Tedd
Once again, I have to respond to a comment of the “cut and paste” mentality of those who put comments in the post that aren’t throughly researched. I find it interesting how 1. How “You Tube” became a reliable source of reporting and 2. How come everytime someone from the “Right” beliefs post a video that does not play completely through, but are cut and pasted with only the talking points they want to say are truths. I can take a speach from McCain and cut and paste it having him say “I think Unicorns run the Senate”. That doesn’t make it true. Here’s one fact that I can’t get any clarification from the Rep’s on regarding Fannie Mae/Mac. In 2004, (which was the year on the clip that Tedd posted) the REP party had the majority of the house. If they were all for regulation, how come they didn’t have that happen when they had the majority vote to have it happen? Did they try? If they did, was it voted down by some of their Republican “Mavericks”? Why now in 2008 it’s Dem’s fault. They were in control when supposedly they “foresaw” this happening? Why didn’t they stop it? Why didn’t all these wise people we elect to office who had this “crystal ball” of superpowers to stop this Fannie mess from happening do something. Republicans, I await your educated response. I know respectfully turn the floor over to the “Distinguished Gentleman” Tedd. Educate me.
September 29th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
TEDD,
What’s amazing to me is :
#1. That conservatives think that YouTube videos put together by far right wingers like Naked Emperor, somehow should have more credibility than those from the left.
Michael Moore’s movies show people ‘by their own words’ too, but you don’t believe whole picture is accurately portrayed.
The same is true here, Moore has as much or as little credibility as the group who put this video together,
#2. Your little video is from several years when REPUBLICANS were in control of the congress AND the whitehouse.
Again, George Bush, by HIS own words, from his own website, talking about deregulating Fannie Mae:
“One of the programs is designed to help deserving families who have bad credit histories to qualify for homeownership loans.”
“you don’t have to have a lousy home for first-time home buyers. If you put your mind to it, the first-time home buyer, the low-income home buyer can have just as nice a house as anybody else.”
September 29th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Well for one thing, it isn’t you tube that should be questioned here, it is the actual words or the people displayed here. I challenge all of you. Produce the words of Republicans on this matter in the form of video on this exact subject. Make me eat my posting. Democrats have controlled for the past two years. Even if you look at the video, which is a recent one by your defacto leader Bill Clinton, He said the democrats should have worked with Repulicans years ago on this matter. He tried to get it done as well. Your words cannot argue with the video words that prove this fact. Maybe you can give me some reference to prove myself, the Republicans spoken here and also discredit Bill Clinton. What do you think?
September 29th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
I am trying hard to convert myself into a Republican, but find it extremely difficult to vote against my own interests.
September 29th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Tedd,
I am not questioning You Tube, I am questioning “YOUR” post. I am asking you to show me evidence of the Republicans trying to get this done, and an explanation of why it didn’t get done when they had the majority vote in the house. If they had the majority vote, and all Republicans wanted it, then it should have passed, right? Look Tedd, the bottom line is our government “Collectively” failed on this issue. It is not a Rep or Dem issue. Even as we speak, the house is divided on the latest bill. With “BOTH” Republicans and Democrats” voting Yay and Nay. To say that an issue like this can be pointed to one party is just ignorance. These failed economic issues are strictly due to greed on the private sector, with too many people in the “government” sector getting kickbacks for standing by and doing nothing.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Tedd,
Once, anybody can string together things people say in or out of context, with the words of Republicans being used in the same way.
You can’t just play excerpts from “a hearing”….anyone who REALLY wants the truth would have to see the whole hearing.
As I’ve said, you guys say that Michael Moore presents things out of context ALL the time.
Everything this video shows is from 2004 when Republicans were in charge.
I’ve given you quotes of Bush, saying he wants less regulations on Fannie so first time home owners don’t have to have ” a lousy home for first-time home buyers. If you put your mind to it, the first-time home buyer, the low-income home buyer can have just as nice a house as anybody else.”
The BIG problem, here was the predatory lending ACCOMPANIED by the selling of the mortgages, so that banks were not accountable if the homeowner failed, that was all Phil Gramm’s baby.
As for:
“Produce the words of Republicans on this matter in the form of video on this exact subject.”
I think this is one of those things that five people care about, like what Olberman or O’Rielly said about the each other. These little videos, ( and again, I’ll put Michael Moore in the mix) are to comfort the partisan who wants their side absolved.
There is a story from 1999:
“An agreement between the Clinton administration and congressional Republicans, reached during all-night negotiations which concluded in the early hours of October 22, sets the stage for passage of the most sweeping banking deregulation bill in American history, lifting virtually all restraints on the operation of the giant monopolies which dominate the financial system.”
Oh, but wait, that is from a socialist web site.
Then there’s :
Campaign of influence-buying
They had good reason, to be sure. The banking, insurance and brokerage industry lobbyists have combined their forces over the last five years to mount the best-financed campaign of influence-buying ever seen in Washington. In 1997 and 1998 alone, the three industries spent over $300 million on the effort: $58 million in campaign contributions to Democratic and Republican candidates, $87 million in “soft money” contributions to the Democratic and Republican parties, and $163 million on lobbying of elected officials.
The Republicans had the majority and the vote was split clearly by party lines. Only 1 democrat voted for the bill.
The Gramm-Leach-Bliley bill passed 54-44. [S. 900, Vote #105, 5/6/99]
Are the facts only valid if someone puts in the form of a video?
September 29th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Alan, you proved again just how lame you are. McCain was eating dinner!!?? Scandalous!
Is Colmes a synonym for pathetic moron?
September 29th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Occam,
Have you ever been in one of the Mandarin properties? Trust me, it isn’t just eating dinner, it is an event.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
“We all continue to hear about Palin’s executive experience.”
And what do you learn from “executive experience”? How to hand down proclamations and boss people around. Barack has been bringing opponents together and hearing out both sides of an argument since his days at Columbia. He’s made a reputation for giving both sides a fair hearing, and making decisions based on fact and reason and practical reality, not “gut instinct” and the whim of the moment.
And that’s why we need Barack, because can’t afford to put yet another knee-jerk gum-chewing “Decider-in-Chief” in the White House.
September 29th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
I think I feel much more comfortable voting for a man who graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School, than someone who graduated in the bottom 10% of his class. Now I know that it has become passe to be intelligent, but we had stupid for the last eight years, enough is enough! Enough of the “cowboy, bring em on mentality”, enough of the “task from God mentality”‘enough of the making decisions from “the gut”. ENOUGH!
September 29th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Yeah SUSAN!!! Notice its always the Conservatives that put down intelligence, facts, scholarly pursuit, or science (although they don’t mind availing themselves of its frutis). Intelligent people don’t make good rank and file Conservatives. The only place for intelligent Conservatives is to make sure the rest are kept ignorant. We have allowed science and fact in this country to be dangerously discounted, looked upon with suspicion, etc. Instead we are told to believe in religious dogma, party platforms, and cast doubt on all others who disagree. As Susan March put it so well, ENOUGH!!!!
September 29th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
I am trying hard to convert myself into a Republican, but find it extremely difficult to vote against my own interests, and against the interests of my country.
September 29th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
To “Thinkbeforeyouspeak” and others:
If this is both a Republican and Democrat problem, why is Nancy Pelosi on an all out rampage blaming Republicans? In my opinion, I think that Democrats know the problem is theirs and are trying to pass the buck so to speak. There is far more evidence that is still coming out on this as well. Also, why didn’t Obama try to help get this passed with his influence? John McCain tried. Maybe Obama is just waiting for the Senate vote so that he can vote “present” again.
For “Oldlefty:
I like that you quote Democrat talking points. Lets try to be a little more original. Those talking points change from day to day anyway. Besides, look at all the money that Obama got from Fannie and Freddie. As far a Video versus the words; the video can sometimes show more than just the words on paper. Barney Frank probably is most at fault for this.
September 29th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Susan,
I guess you don’t want Biden as VP then. He graduated WAY at the bottom of his class.
September 29th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Just as a matter of reference, Hannity has been putting out the word that Treasury Secretary Paulson is a Liberal Democrat…can anyone enlighten me or do I need to Google it myself
September 29th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
And to add another thought, I think this current dilemma is just another good case for considering term limits. Maybe that way, our good honest public servants won’t have the time or opportunity to fall prey to corporate america, at least no more than they already do.
September 29th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Just looked up Mr. Paulson..Honest Sean strikes again..appears the gentleman is a Republican
September 29th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
How many times is Old Lefty going to lie about the Gramm 1999 bill? I already corrected him on his deliberate misrepresentation, and yet he continues to deceive.
The Democrats put CRA requirements into the Gramm Bill.. therefore all banks entering new markets were guaranteed to have a significant portion of their loans be comprised of doomed , corrupt mortgages.
This is from the NYT 23 Oct 1999
The legislation repeals the Glass-Steagall Act, or, as it is formally known, the Banking Act of 1933, which broke up the powerful House of Morgan and divided Wall Street between investment banks and commercial banks. It also makes significant changes to the Bank Holding Company Act of 1956, which had restricted what banks could do in the insurance business.
The Glass-Steagall Act was enacted after the stock market crash of 1929 and the ensuing banking crisis and Great Depression. On the day it was signed, along with the National Industrial Recovery Act and other measures, President Franklin D. Roosevelt called the package “the most important and far-reaching legislation ever enacted by the American Congress.”
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The breakthrough in Friday’s legislation came in a backroom meeting at the Capitol soon after midnight, when a group of moderate Senate Democrats — led by Christopher Dodd of Connecticut and Charles E. Schumer of New York — forced a compromise between Gramm and the White House over the legislation’s effect on the Community Reinvestment Act, a 1977 anti-discrimination law intended to encourage lending to minorities and others historically denied access to credit.
Dodd, whose state is home to the nation’s largest insurance companies, and Schumer, with strong ties to Wall Street, have long sought legislation to repeal the Glass-Steagall Act. Both men said in interviews Friday that they moved to strike a compromise after it became apparent that the legislation might be killed, as it was last year by Gramm, over the debate about the Community Reinvestment Act.
Gramm had maintained that he did not want anything in the bill that would expand the application of the Community Reinvestment Act because it was, he said, unnecessarily burdensome to banks. He had sought a provision that would exempt thousands of smaller banks from the law. He also wanted a provision that would expose what he has described as the “extortion” committed by community groups against banks by requiring the groups to disclose any special financial deals the groups extract from the banks.
But the White House found that provision unacceptable and had its own ideas about community lending. It wanted the legislation to prevent any bank with an unsatisfactory record of making loans to the disadvantaged from expanding into new areas, like insurance or securities.
The White House had insisted that the President would veto any legislation that would scale back minority-lending requirements. Four days of intense negotiations between Summers, Gene Sperling, the President’s top economic policy adviser, and Gramm, while moving the two sides closer, failed to resolve the differences.
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After receiving calls from executives of some of the nation’s leading financial companies, Dodd and Schumer began trying to work out a compromise. An agreement was quickly reached on the issue of banks and expanded powers – no institution would be allowed to move into any new lines of business without a satisfactory lending record.
The lawmakers bogged down on Gramm’s insistence that all community organizations disclose to the regulators what benefits they get from banks. Some Democrats expressed the fear that Gramm’s proposal would require the Boy Scouts to file reports with the regulators.
Ultimately, the following provisions were drawn up and both the White House and Gramm said they could accept them:
¶Banks will not be able to move into new lines of business unless they have satisfactory lending records.
¶Community groups will have to make disclosures to regulators about certain kinds of financial deals with banks that they have pressed to make loans under the Community Reinvestment Act.
¶Wholesale financial institutions, a new kind of business that takes large, uninsured bank deposits, cannot be affiliated with commercial banks.
¶Small banks with satisfactory or excellent track records of lending to the underserved would be reviewed less frequently under the Community Reinvestment Act. As a practical matter smaller banks are reviewed about every three years. The deal struck today allows all rural banks and banks with less than $250 million in assets to undergo examination once every five years if their last exam resulted in an “outstanding” grade and every four years if they last scored “satisfactory.”
For more than 20 years, Congress has tried unsuccessfully to rewrite the nation’s financial services laws and repeal Glass-Steagall, particularly as many other industrial nations had no similar restrictions on their banks. But until recently, the three main industries affected by the legislation — banks, securities companies and insurers — had competing interests and were able to lobby any legislation to a standstill.
That all changed in recent years as the lines between the industries began to blur and it became more broadly acknowledged that a deregulation of financial services could be beneficial to insurers, bankers and securities firms alike. Once the three industries rallied around the legislation, they became a formidable political force, raising millions of dollars for lawmakers and pressing both Republican leaders in Congress and the White House for new legislation.
http://partners.nytimes.com/library/financial/102399banks-congress.html
September 30th, 2008 at 3:01 am
Your argument that republicans had control and did nothing doesn’t wash. the DEMs have control of congress now and they can’t get anything passed.
the point is, the whole system is screwy. CRA which is explained in the video I posted is one reason we are in the mess we are in. ANd yes, Bush warned in 2003 that Fannie and Freddie was in trouble. McCain co-sponsored a bill in 2005 that asked for more regulation. Didn’t get passed. Obama receieved MORE money from Fannie/freddie in 3 years than John Kerry received in 20 years.
If you don’t want to look at the facts across the board, you don’t want what is best for this country. You want to bicker,point fingers and blame the republicans for everything.
BOTH sides got us in this mess. Which side warned against it? I know what I think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU6fuFrdCJY
September 30th, 2008 at 8:35 am
Concerning Joe Biden: As you people consistently quote about Pain, HE’S not running for president. Joe Biden has years of experience. NOW on the other hand we have Sarah Palin: six different colleges, bachelors degree, can’t get through an interview with even one intelligible paragraph, under ethics investigation in her own state, executive experience that reeks of cronyism(giving a friend who quoted loving cows as her resume to head a multimillion dollar agency.)Need I say more. AS I said before I feel more comfortable voting for a PRESIDENT who graduated magna cum laude, than one who graduated in the lower 10% of this class!
September 30th, 2008 at 10:11 am
P.S Lest we forget: The ability to see Russia from Alaska is a foreign policy. AND Putin rears his head and flies over Alaska. Give me a break.
September 30th, 2008 at 10:17 am
First off, she attended 4 colleges not 6. many people as I have stated earlier attend multiple colleges. I think Obama attended 3.
The main reason McCain graduated college lower in his class was disciplinary actions.
Smart people flunk out of college. Some smart people never attend college. If you are trying to say that obama’s college education makes his ready to be President BOY are you stretching. If you are trying to say McCain isn’t qualified, that is a flat out lie.
If all you need is to graduate Magna cum laude to run for president count me in. In fact, count a lot of people in who might have book smarts, but no common sense.
Don’t bring up grades if you don’t want to look at them across the board, especially if you comment is cynical.
Lest we forget: FDR was President and addressed the nation via TV’s that were non-existent during the great depression. I could list a million other gaffes, but I won’t waste my time.
September 30th, 2008 at 10:33 am
“P.S Lest we forget: The ability to see Russia from Alaska is a foreign policy. AND Putin rears his head and flies over Alaska. Give me a break.
Posted by Susan March
September 30th, 2008 at 10:17 am”
Like you even care, you liar. Obama said his mighty “experience” is having lived overseas when he was a child. I’ll take an All-American woman over someone who was in a madrassa any day.
September 30th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Vince, stop calling people names. You are welcome to post your opinions but your name-calling is not welcome, and it’s getting old.
September 30th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Vince:
I’ll take an All-American woman over someone who was in a madrassa any day.
It was a public school, not a madrassa.
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/
September 30th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Joel: I’m just following the example of the Left.
September 30th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Vince:
Joel: I’m just following the example of the Left.
Wasn’t it you who said that saying your ‘brother Johnny did it too’ stopped working as an excuse when you were 5 years old? (I’m paraphrasing, but basically a quote from you this weekend)
And I know you are very informed on all things Obama and any possible links to his ‘Muslimness’. Do you really believe he went to a madrassa? If so, could you provide any evidence of that assertion?
September 30th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
No Vince, you’re just being rude. There are rude people on the Left and there are rude people on the Right. Your name-calling makes you an example of the latter.
Just in the past few days you have called at least two users “dumb ass” and called another a “retard.” Such rudeness is not welcome here and will not be tolerated.
If you would like to continue to be allowed to post on this website, please do yourself a favor and cut it out.
September 30th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
You’re right I’m rude to them. Anyone with a conscience would be rude to detestable people … these merchants of lies and deceptions.
The nation is in the condition it is in because of Leftist-directed government interference in the banking system.. and no one here is going to admit it?
It’s clear these people are not Americans.. they’re Leftists. that’s their allegiance.. the Left.
Now this country has to deal with Nancy the Destroyer and Barack the Trojan Horse…. how much more disrespect do you think Americans are going to put up with before they let their anger show?
September 30th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
It’s funny you call for an end to name-calling.
I’ve been calling on Alan to retract the deliberate lying he has done about Palin , particualrly distorting her prayer re Iraq. He deliberately spreads false information to instigate hate towards her.
I’m just doing some venting when I say retard. but what Alan does is downright evil.
I’ll stop calling names, because that’s the kind of person I am.
When will the lies from the Left stop?
September 30th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Vince,
When will the lies from the Left stop?
Did Obama attend a madrassa as you asserted, or not? I’ll admit, my source ‘CNN’ is one I have found to be in error in the past – but I would think that if he really attended a madrassa it would be all over the place.
September 30th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Vince, take your misguided pride in rudeness somewhere else. You’re no longer welcome here.
September 30th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
I disagree with the ban, Vince – I stated that to Joel and will be emailing Alan as well. I’ve got your email from your website, will shoot you an email tomorrow – hopefully we can continue to discuss some issues. Sure, you are wrong on everything but Iran and Venezuela (kidding, well, mostly kidding, you know what I mean) but if nothing else I guess we both hone our arguments, and understand a bit better how some of those we disagree with think.
Hopefully they will let you back. I really think there are others more offensive than Vince was, I, for example, called Louie a ‘doo doo’ head just yesterday. That was pretty offensive.
Anyway, not my blog – not my call, but want to be on record publicly disagreeing with the ban.
September 30th, 2008 at 11:41 pm