Bragging about distancing himself from President Bush, John McCain said during Debate II, “There was an energy bill on the floor packed with goodies that was sponsored by Bush-Cheney. You know who voted for it? That one. You know who voted against it? Me.”
Trueamerican said:
Cara I think its pathetic that people vote for a party and not the candidate. And dont deny it there are people like that.
Yea, a lot of Republicans and Democrats vote party line. No it is not pathetic. Some people think they know their party better than they know their candidate. Sometimes it can be fairly difficult to even know anything about a given candidate, especially in local politics. So the party gives some people a basic guideline to follow.
Trueamerican said:
I guess you think inviting a domestic terrorist to your house shows good judgement.
What candidate invited a domestic terrorist to his house? Can you back that accusation up?
You didn’t care when Bush has bin Ladins and others who fund al Qaeda over, or again G Gordon Liddy.
I don’t think ANY of it is that big of a deal.
Ayres is molehill instead of a mountain, just like Mcain sitting on the board of the radical Freedom Council.
If it was Hillary, you would be repeating ALL the gossip about the Clintons.
When McCain ran against Bush, the right attacked him in the same way.
Trueamerican,
Which candidate invited a terrorist to his house? What are you even talking about? I assume you are referring to Obama as the candidate and Ayers as the terrorist?
What evidence do you have that Obama ever had Ayers in his home?
Cara I think its pathetic that people vote for a party and not the candidate. And dont deny it there are people like that.
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Dehumanization of the “enemy”. Old mind set. Sad commentary about his detachment from the reality of the situation. It was unconscious, I believe, and a sad commentary on where his subconscious is.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:26 am
“…an energy bill…packed with goodies…”
And of all the energy bills that floated around the US Congress over the last 30 years, which might Mc be referring to?
And obviously there were no goodies in the bill for the Senator’s state of Arizona, or he would’ve been first on line to vote for it.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:29 am
just think about what he used to call Obama types when he was young…”That One” doesn’t sound so bad coming from McForgetful. Good thing he hasn’t resorted to the commentary of his youth.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:30 am
Alan: You are either the dumbest fool to ever walk the face of the earth or you are on the DNC payroll but I am not sure which. You dance to the demorat talking points every time you open your mouth even when you have to know what bovine scat it is. how can anyone have such little respect for one’s self to do that?
October 8th, 2008 at 1:31 am
me
October 8th, 2008 at 1:33 am
Alan, I guess that you must know that since Nobama is 44% arab and 6% black that if he wins, he will be the first Arab (Muslim) president. He must be a Muslim because he is evil and a lier and amoral and a Marxist so he can not be a Christian.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:35 am
Sorry, your lack of respect for someone who doesn’t believe as you do just took me into the dark place. I apologize for my glib response.
But, please, consider that this situation is not a matter of talking points. McCain, sadly, said that.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:35 am
There can be no question that when McCain’s said “that one” he meant “that..n-word” . Anyone who says otherwise is either dumb or just as racist as McCain.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:37 am
Arab does not equal muslim…Some Arabs are Christian.
“He must be a Muslim because he is evil and a lier and amoral and a Marxist so he can not be a Christian.” Mc Carthy would have loved your lies and how you directly smear them.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:37 am
christians have killed more people in the name of religion throughout history than any other. A Muslim is different than a radical Muslim, the same as a Christian is different than a Christian Fundamentalist. Now considering that he is not Muslim at all, what is your point?
October 8th, 2008 at 1:45 am
I believe the poll numbers will go UP for mccain just b/c he said this. some honesty comes through. you think obama has never called white people “white devils” in the racially charged district he came from? his minister loves white people. his political allys in chicago love white people. I have said it before on here and I will say it again, this race will come down to RACE.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:46 am
“that one” is the talk of black blogs. it’s an old-timers phrase to me. but to blacks and libs looking to inject race into this at any opportunity…………well, tune in to The Amsterdam News for details.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:54 am
i can’t disagree – but it is a true shame
October 8th, 2008 at 1:55 am
whitey has to start to play nice – we are going to be the minority in a couple of more decades. I’m gonna end up pickin’ cotton for a livin’!! Just joking around. we gotta learn to look past color…
October 8th, 2008 at 1:58 am
But it’s the libs and some blacks looking for anything to make race an issue. “that one” is an example.
Remember when Obama gave his “dollar bill” speech in Jacksonville? McCain’s numbers made a rebound until this economy collapse.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:07 am
the “dollar bill” comment was un-called for. give you that.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:18 am
aside from that, publicly race hasn’t played a major roll in this election…publicly. It is a shame that the race could be determined by skin color though. Blacks simply voting for a black man, whites refusing to support a minority. That is the part that seems to be being kept out of the public forum.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:22 am
“aside from that, publicly race hasn’t played a major roll in this election…publicly”
Are you kidding me
1. Who exactly do you think they mena when they say “community activists”
2. Sara “KKK” Palin calling Obama a terrorist for havingcriminal possession of black skin.
3. McCain doozy tonight – it slipped out but it was there for all the world to see – McCain is an out of the closet racist. The hilarious thing is reading all the pathetic attempts by Republicans to get him off the hook. The best they can manage is that he comes from a different age when black people were not quite equal and he doesn’t really mean anything by it.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:29 am
I didn’t mean that there wern’t underlying racial tensions…thats obvious. But to me it doesn’t seem like any of the candidates want to talk about it overtly. Palin is a given; how many blacks live in Wasila, Alaska? McGrumpy probably doesn’t hang with the brothers at the local country club in Arizona either.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:39 am
my point was that it seems like knowbody wants to talk about the subject head on
October 8th, 2008 at 2:40 am
Don’t give him that one at all, S Trapnell! The ‘face on the dollar bill’ story really puzzled me. It did seem like an odd thing to say at the time… UNTIL you understand where it came from.
A month before that controversy blew up, the McCain campaign had actually put out an ad that showed Obama’s face on the Statue of Liberty, as all the presidents on Mt Rushmore and yes, replacing Benjamin Franklin (I think) on the $100 bill. The gist of it was that this was the knd of change people could REALLY expect from Obama.
I could not imagine why the Obama campaign did not shove that smear back in the repub’s nasty little faces at the time, when they were playing shocked and horrified at how Barack had ‘played the race card’.
My only guess is that they are saving it… if necessary they can show the fake fuss then say “but did you know WHY Senator Obama said they’d try and scare you with the fact that he doesn’t look like the other presidents on the dollar bill? Take a look at this ad released by the McCain campaign four weeks earlier…”
And with that, they’ll show the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDTJDv4hevU
October 8th, 2008 at 5:17 am
Jake. You have a dog’s name.
And I don’t think the KKK is active in Alaska.
But I hope more people like Jake make noise so that white voters like me get tired of the Obama supporters injecting race into this, and don’t vote for Obama.
October 8th, 2008 at 5:18 am
LLL – is that name supposed to imply you’ve advanced past KKK?
Take a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDTJDv4hevU and tell us again who injected race into the debate…
October 8th, 2008 at 5:27 am
MCKEE- What does that video have to do with race?
No John McKKKee, it’s you who wears white sheets.
October 8th, 2008 at 6:23 am
Glenn and LLL – your brain transplants are now available. Ya Betcha!
October 8th, 2008 at 8:52 am
Obama calls himself “the one”.
” Listen — I’m the one for Change , I’ll fight the special Interests and shake up Washington ”
” Your change Senator “
October 8th, 2008 at 9:02 am
he just needs to call him “boy”, what’s next? the N word?
October 8th, 2008 at 9:13 am
When the young black man asked about what each candidate was going to do that would help friends of his that had been hurt by the economic crises. McCain responded something to the effect of …Fannie May and Freddi Mac, I bet you had never even heard of them before..
I thought this was really a racist statement. That somehow because the guy was black he didn’t have a mortgage. The “that one” comment didn’t really come across as racist (to me) as much as being disrespectful… the way someone would refer to their young kid that had done something they didn’t approve of.
Another thing no one (that I have seen) has addressed is how McCain looked in this type of debate. Wow, I had never seen him except sitting down, standing behind a mic, or behind a podium. I kept being distracted by how OLD he looks when he moves around, he looks frail, and he was holding the mic with a hand that looked like a claw. His people messed up when they put him out there like this; age matters when the person looks frail and really really old.
October 8th, 2008 at 10:03 am
I did not pick up on any racial connotation to what McCain said – it was disrespectful, but not racist.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:09 am
McCain is a damn old geezer!
October 8th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Actually John McCain was just having a “senior moment” and couldn’t recall Barack Obamas name.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:42 am
I remember him saying “that one”. And it confused me. I think he meant to say that “candidate”… or something.
‘Mouse~ did you get a final “My Friends” count? Are we going with the “one my friends per minute” average?
October 8th, 2008 at 11:46 am
The bloom is off the rose!
The only thing McCain and Palin have left is negativity!
Polls indicate that Americans have “smartened up”, compared to “dumb-ing down” – if that’s the only positive thing we get from the last eight years, well…at least it’s something!
People now see what McCain really is – just a bitter, old man with a spoiled brat temper.
And
People now see what Palin really is – simply nothing but a robot who speaks the words the McCain Adminstration puts in her mouth!
October 8th, 2008 at 11:52 am
That One ‘08
October 8th, 2008 at 11:56 am
All of you voting for Obama might as well move to France because thats what he wants to turn America into. All of you!!!! and Obama can move to France and we Americans can keep our America!!!! Its not a racist statement I and lots of others have never heard of Fannie and Freddie.Geeeeze
October 8th, 2008 at 11:58 am
“All of you voting for Obama might as well move to France because thats what he wants to turn America into.”
listening to your favorite neocon talk show this morning???
October 8th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
from the right wing site The Daily Standard:
John McCain had a very strong debate tonight. It’s too bad for him that it came on a night when Barack Obama was nearly flawless.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/669lgumg.asp
October 8th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Funny that you pick France, Truemerican. Quite a few Europeans have commented to me that France is the most like the U.S. of any country in Europe. They think that is why we don’t get along with them. Ways they have said we are similar:
France:
- is the most conservative country in Europe
- the French only like to speak French, just like we only like to speak English
- they are very ‘law and order’, i.e. they’ll throw you in jail for things that would warrant a lesser action in other European countries
- they think France is the greatest country in the world, just like Americans think the U.S. is the greatest country in the world
Anyway, yea – France is a nice place, but I wouldn’t want to live there. As far as Europe goes, I’d probably pick The Netherlands, maybe Switzerland.
But what did you mean by Obama ‘wants to turn America into France’? It isn’t on his website as one of his platform positions. I must have missed that speech.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Ted nugent for president!!!
October 8th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
i didnt choose to replicate france obama did.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
TrueAmerican has reading comprehension problems:
this:
i didnt choose to replicate france obama did.
In no way can be construed as an answer to this:
But what did you mean by Obama ‘wants to turn America into France’? It isn’t on his website as one of his platform positions. I must have missed that speech.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
I cant wait until Obama puts his campaign logo on the side of airforce 1. Maybe he can put it on the flag too. WE can even change the name of our country to the Ununited States of Obamamerica. Its about time we turned this country into a Socalist Republic.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
I can not believe to how Mccain to Mr. Obama as “That one” That is used in a criminal line up and was used during slave trading days when masters picked slaves from ships. I also can not believe the racist comments of some of these people that in this audience. Education is very important. They say that there are Chritians, but they have no love at all. There is no recism in the cemetaries where they rest in peace.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
trueamerican,
You don’t sound very much like a “true” American to me.
You sound more like what we used to call a “good German”
Perhaps you would be more comfortable in Saudi Arabia, where they tolerate no dissent.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I can not believe to how Mccain refered to Mr. Obama as “That one” That is used in a criminal line up and was used during slave trading days when masters picked slaves from ships. I also can not believe the racist comments of some of these people that are in this audience. Education is very important. They say that there are Christians, but they have no love at all. There is no recism in the cemetaries where they rest in peace.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
trueUNamerican:”I cant wait until Obama puts his campaign logo on the side of airforce 1. Maybe he can put it on the flag too. WE can even change the name of our country to the Ununited States of Obamamerica. Its about time we turned this country into a Socalist Republic.”
didnt someone once say: “Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself”
Fear makes people delusional and erratic. What a sad way to live.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
WTF,
It seems that the theme here is, “The Only Thing We Have to OFFER Is Fear Itself”
October 8th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Thats exactly right the only thing the biased left wing media has to offer is fear!!!!!
October 8th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
“That one” is not a racist comment. I am really tired of people using race constantly in this election. Don’t stir up something that isn’t there. It only trivializes real racism.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
“Thats exactly right the only thing the biased left wing media has to offer is fear!!!!!”
Posted by trueamerican
……………………
The old, “I know you are , but what am I?”
Spoken like a TRUE 9 year old.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
If McCain had said “this one” after he said “that one” we wouldn’t be having this conversation, but he didn’t and it came off as very disturbing.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
yo mama saids no bama
October 8th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
hahaha no one is racist except republicans and white people. this place is such a joke. I and I feel alot of these racist white republicans would “look past” the color issue if black people could.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
you’re living up to your last name Robbie, good job!
October 8th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
It’s easy to say “look past the color issue if black people could” until you are black and try to get a cab, go shopping, try to cash a check, you get the point? This isn’t fantasy, this is the reality of being black. Does it happen everyday to everyone who is black? No, but too often is too much. Does it happen to you?
October 8th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
I and I feel alot of these racist white republicans would “look past” the color issue if black people could.
Posted by Alanisaconservative
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You mean like ALL the blacks who voted for Clinton, Gore and Kerry?
October 8th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
“until you are black and try to get a cab, go shopping, try to cash a check,”
and its just not blacks, as an asian-american, I was spit on, called a ‘jap’, told to go back to my country, as well as a host of other names. and it was always from a white person.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
This is what radical anarchists like Bill Ayers want to teach in public schools, that its only the white people who are ever or have ever been racist, and only against blacks.
Only white Americans took black slaves and were unfair to them? bullocks!
Obama went to spread money to radical anarchist groups at Bill Ayers’ direction because they have the same point of view about America. Hussein Obama’s wife said (while Hussein was doing good in the polls) she for the first time in her (adult?) life she was proud of America. well that means before then she was NOT proud of America, and hey neither is Bill Ayers or that band of radical homegrown terrorist.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
This ACORN stuff scares me. And it appears to be happening in various states.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Bill Ayres is no more significant than McCain and the Keating five, or sitting on the board of the US Council for World Freedom, or Sarah Palin’s relationship to the Alaska Independence party, or the Bushs relationship to the bin Ladin family.
October 8th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
you think you would be treated colorless in africa or the district obama came from? I would rather not be able to get a cab/ go shopping, than slashed, mugged, robbed etc. b/c of my skin color. racism is not ignorance, like many “intellegent” educators try to teach, it is primitive (sp). the futher we get away from our primitive instincts the more we lie to ourselves. but of course liberals lie to themselves all the time so why should the race issue be any different. it seems like white obama supporters want to be accepted by a community (the black community) that will never accept them no matter how untrue to their natural instincts they become. the racism goes both ways, at least those d*mn white racist republicans are honest about it.
October 8th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
ACORN stuff…you mean people filling out bogus registration cards??? who cares?? it happens all the time..the point is, those bogus cards won’t get processed and registration cards do not count as votes…we can’t help that volunteers are trying to cut corners by filling out bogus registration cards. Non issue.
October 8th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
“He must be a Muslim because he is evil and a lier and amoral and a Marxist so he can not be a Christian.”
And I think you worship Satan, and you want to destroy America, because your brand of racism doesn’t come out of the mouths of any real Christians.
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“…it’s the libs and some blacks looking for anything to make race an issue…”
If you have to “look” for it to find it, do yourself a favor and start by picking up a mirror.
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“Thats exactly right the only thing the biased left wing media has to offer is fear!!!!!”
There is no left-wing media. I just had CNN on for four hours straight and they replayed McCain and Palin spitting out lies almost non-stop. Your problem is you can’t stand to hear fifteen seconds of any opinion that conflicts with your own.
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“Obama went to spread money to radical anarchist groups at Bill Ayers’ direction …”
OK, then McCain should’ve been prosecuted for collaborating with the enemy, just like a lot of other vets who collaborated with the North Vietnamese to a far less extent then McCain. And the only reason he didn’t get prosecuted is he’s got admirals in the family and they pulled strings to get his traitor backside off the hook.
October 8th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
You seem very scared LLL.
This ACORN stuff scares me
Yesterday you were afraid of riots, today you are afraid of acorns. What next – walnuts?
You really need to get over your melanophobia, and your balanusphobia.
At least you don’t have catagelophobia , or you would be in big trouble.
October 8th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Oh I get it his middle name is Hussein like Sadam Hussein. So calling him by his middle name Likens him to a terrorist dictator. You’re so clever. Next lets go find all the people with the middlename Adolf and burn them at the stake. Then we can move on to people with the same shoes. Then hats. oo oo I got it how about underwear. Yeah those drawers are evil. Damn you Hanes!!!!
October 8th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
This ACORN crap should anger anyone who registers and votes legitemately. It isn’t about race, it isn’t about party , it is about holding an honest, democratic election. Just another example of why they should not have received any government money. It is obviously a crooked organization.
October 8th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Acorn is nothing.
I’m more afraid of the owners of the machines, who have proprietary rights to the secret methods of the counting of votes.
Remember Walden O’Dell the former CEO of Diebold (the parent company of voting machine manufacturer Diebold Election Systems) was an active fundraiser for George W.Buhs’s re-election campaign and wrote in a fund-raising letter dated August 13, 2003, that he was committed “to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the President.”
Meanwhile,Kenneth Blackwell ran the elections while he was in charge of the Reelect Bush Campaign.
I can see their fear of ACORN though, as Paul Weyrich, father of the right-wing movement and co-founder of the Heritage Foundation said:
“Now many of our Christians have what I call the goo-goo syndrome — good government. They want everybody to vote. I don’t want everybody to vote. Elections are not won by a majority of people, they never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now.
As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.”
October 8th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
I just looked at the ACORN site. What’s the big deal? It seems like a good organization, actually, empowering the poor and disenfranchised. I don’t see how, in this United States of America, that the entire purpose of the organization could be seen as a bad thing.
I can see now why everyone’s drawing the Jesus-community organizer parallel. Shoot, and it’s not even like ACORN’s even hanging out with lepers, prostitutes and tax collectors, like Jesus did. They’re just poor people. Sheesh.
P.S.– “That one”? Eh. I didn’t really care. It reminded me of getting in trouble at home.
“You wouldn’t believe what happened today! I was trying to weed the garden and ‘that one’ (pointing at me) sneaked up behind me and bellowed so hard I fell in the raspberry bushes head first! You’ve GOT to do something!”
That Obama. Such a bad elf.
October 8th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Is anyone in the media reporting the story about Obama getting lots of cash from oversees sources? Why is this stuff buried by the mainstream media?
October 8th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Is anyone in the media reporting the story about Obama getting lots of cash from oversees sources? Why is this stuff buried by the mainstream media?
Posted by LLL
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Because it usually is never born out by facts.
October 8th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Bradley, Bill Ayers was in the Weather underground, An ANTIWAR group. Was the Vietnam war a bad thing to be against, after all we know now? Is it bad to be Antiwar or AntiBush Policy? Bill Ayers Is Ten Times the Patriot you will ever be. Mrs. Obama is Proud of people getting engaged in politics again. I was not proud of Americans like you that are so desperate to vilify a guy cause You don’t want a BLACK President! Yes I said it. To me, I came to that conclusion about YOU! You Coward! Enlist NOW! you should be over there providing security for Halliburton so they can steal you tax dollars, But you Don’t care. You represent what I am NOT PROUD of in Americans You are so WASTING YOUR TIME! The Ayers thing is NOT SIGNIFICANT TO the issues in AMERICA today. Your desperation is amusing!
October 8th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
How funny. msnbc.com had the AP story that Obama might’ve received MILLION from overseas donors. The story was on msnbc.com at 4am. I guess someone didn’t know that negative Obama stories are not allowed on that site, and took it down within an hour. Objective journalism is dead.
October 8th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
McCain got money from overseas donors too. That’s why its not a big story. Sorry for you.
October 8th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Who reported that McCain got money from overseas? US Soldiers don’t count against this argument.
I want to know more about the millions from overseas, and ACORN.
October 8th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Lots of Americans work overseas. And the number of Obama donors listing an address in a different country apparently account for 1% of all donations.
I wonder what could be said of McCain’s donations? Probably the DNC is too busy to comb through the lists because they’re actually, you know, worrying about how people are losing their homes, cars, livelihoods and families.
October 8th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
I am so suprised that McCain didn’t crush Obama when he was talking about how he would fight genocide.
McCaine must have felt kind by not replying ( Then why not support the war in iraq ,and the stopping of that genocide.) or When Obama said he was planning to get most of the money for his budget from the money he would save not having troops in Iraq. Then a few minutes later said he would just move the troops to Afhganistan. My question is how can you save any money for the budget if the troops will still be in the middle east unless he plans to leave them there with no support?
October 8th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
LLL, The desperation is so funny to watch, Meltdown Mode comes next! That’s when you might say something that reveals your true feelings and bigotry! :-)
October 8th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Joel, You MORON! This illegal invasion and occupation has created more genocide in Iraq than you even want to know. How many dead civilians now?
October 8th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Today, McCain has abandoned the Ayers attack…it wasn’t given any legs by the media, and it was old news…it sunk faster than McCain’s popularity in Michigan.
I think John should retire from the ring. His wife jumped in today….sad. She has enough courage to try and salvage “good ol John”, but her message is another trip up…..John voted no on several funding measures, too…they all contained time lines..and he voted no. Yipes, John, you made her skin crawl!
Pack up the van, kids, it’s time to go to Florida.
October 8th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Robert Blair: “Yipes, John, you made her skin crawl!”
Why do you think they had only one kid?
October 8th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Bleh, even as I hit “Submit Comment” I was thinking “gah! that was too mean!”
Apologies, apologies, abject apologies. I’m sure he’s great in the sack, and they only had one kid because they’re responsible and busy people, and they have a great geriatric sex life with all the trimmings etc. etc. etc.
Mea culpa. Mi dispiace. Lo siento. Je suis desole.
Given how we’ve now tanked the rest of the world’s markets, we Americans should probably familiarize ourselves with the many ways of saying, “I’m sorry.”
October 8th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Posted by trueamerican — “Ted nugent for president!!! ”
Another redneck right-winger ChickenHawk who didn’t serve. President of the Pathetic loud mouth club maybe.
October 8th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
So going into Darfor will not cost any deaths? PLEASE!!!!
October 8th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Well, we didn’t lose anyone in Bosnia….it can be done.
October 8th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
It all is a matter of what we do when we go in….are we ground troops shooting people, or are we based elsewhere providing strategic gound support, logistical support, and recon.
October 8th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
James Carville is even saying there could be riots if Obama loses. Not just me.
Ayers issue is gaining momentum.
Yes. I’m almost certain that there will be riots on election day. Even if Obama wins, I see lots of kids gathering to “celebrate” a la NBA or MLB victory style.
October 8th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Poor JEFFRO. Can’t argue the points, so he attacks the messenger.
October 8th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
see…personal atacks don’t hack it LOL
October 8th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Poor Poor man, for being called ‘That one”
Big Deal… your making a mountain out of a molehill.
October 8th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
LLL,
You sound like you are…” Wishin’ and hopin’ and thinkin’ and prayin’…as the old song says.
October 8th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
I don’t think it was intentional, but it was a careless mistake and it didn’t help him.
October 8th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Hussein?
That’s not so bad. What about Marion Morrison? You know he’s got to be raging gay with a name like that.
October 8th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
Nope. I just respect the opinions of DAETWON, the kid in the Newsweek article. He has his finger on the pulse of the community.
October 8th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
LOL @ “Daetwon” having his finger on the pulse of the community! HILARIOUS! what’s next DAETWON for secretary of state? Homeland security?
October 8th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
LLL
Does James “The Ragin Cajun” Carville have oodles of black friends who have clued him in on D-Day? He has a special black connection who have tipped him off about the riots?
October 8th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
“Daetwon” said he’s “down with protests”, not riots.
Protests are as American as it gets.
Now, does he mean like the pro Gore protests in Florida in 2000, or like the pro Bush, fake Floridians flwn in by Tom Delay for the Brooks Brothers Riot?
October 8th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Grow up! That man is not an insult in 2008. It is an expression agingst a rival.
October 8th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
LLL, Want to debate some points? Lets Go!
October 8th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
BLACK POWER!
October 8th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
HAIL JERRMIAH WRIGHT!
October 8th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
we gonna kick white man azz. also asians, latinos and all light skinned folks. today is the beginning of the white man. and we will all take over.
BLACK POWER!
October 8th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
cant wate to kick whitey’s azz as soon as my main bro’ is the white house.
October 8th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Here we go again with the phony black people.
I think that LoudMuzikLuvva is some old unemployed white guy, living in his mom’s basement.
Very entertaining, though.
,
October 8th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
yu’ll be da first i’ll kick oldlefy.
am as black as mignidht. and proud of it!!!
October 8th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
ahh yes a true chicago district obama supporter who got their house through community organizers and corrupted the financial market finally speaks. how you doing there loud…bla..bla…bla whatever your name is? dont worry you got alot of support here amongst dumb white people who want to be a part of your click, and accepted by your community. obama is gonna get yo peops deir welfare and you be rollin tight in yo hood. dumb*ss.
October 8th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
am now tracing were you live oldlefty, am on my way to screw you and your wifey
October 8th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Just done my patented cyberanalysis probesearch(tm) on our new friend. As I suspected, LoudMuzikLuvva does indeed type with only one hand.
October 8th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
either way this is the ideology of the black community idiot, whether its real or not.
October 8th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
u too alanis. watch out! ill be right bahind you before u know it.
October 8th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
BLACK PWER!
October 8th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
john mckee, i have 2 hands, 1 for strangling u and the other for sticking it up ur butt
October 8th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
am now tracing were you live oldlefty, am on my way to screw you and your wifey
Posted by LoudMuzikLuvva
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Hey!, Bruno’s back!
October 8th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Funnily enough, LoudMuzikLuvva, I guessed you were strangling something with your non-typing hand. Careful you don’t cut its blood supply off altogether :)
October 8th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Dear Alan
May be CNN and democrat Mr. Carvel is correct. Sen. Obama can not declair his victry yet by the basis of poals. Al Gore was wining big time. Eventualy he lost. “It is not over untill it is over.” He and his supporters should win first. Wining USA presidency is more importent than “That man.” Bottom line is Sen Obama did voted with Bush and his cousin Cheney.
October 8th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
John McKee, from his typing skills, he appears to have blinded himself already with his hairy-palm action.
October 8th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
“McCain responded something to the effect of …Fannie May and Freddi Mac, I bet you had never even heard of them before..”
You left out the most important part of that statement: “before the crisis.”
“2. Sara “KKK” Palin calling Obama a terrorist for havingcriminal possession of black skin.”
Governor Palin never said Obama was a terrorist. She said he hung out with a terrorist; a white *gasp* terrorist at that. The color of Obama’s skin has nothing to do with it.
October 8th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
“There is no left-wing media. ”
Doesn’t need to be, there’s MSNBC. :)
October 8th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
We have MSNBC to counter Fox. It provides a nice balance to the propoganda and right wing talking points.
I am not certain that McCain was being racist in dehumanizing his enemy. He is used to thinking in the military use of dehumanizing terms to allow normal human beings to go about the business of killing other people without going crazy. They use dehumanizing terms like, “gooks, ragheads, chinks, reds, commies, gulag killers, terrorists” to accomplish the transitionn in thinking. Following this path, John subconsciously slipped and reverted to his (so proudly announced so many times)military training.
So, was he racist? No. At least, not on purpose. He was just dehumanizing his enemy….hmmm, not a nice thing to do, either.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
“Ayers issue is gaining momentum. ”
Someone needed to check the polls….it died. It had no affect other than to drum up hate in the base. You’ll notice that no one is mentioning Wright, which would have been the next logical slime based attack. They stopped it, today, because it wasn’t getting any legs in the media or in the independent voters. So, rather than drumming up their lynch mob mentality at their rallies…and thus isolating the independent voters they need, they have (once again) altered their direction of the campaign.
Doesn’t this give you some concerns about how a McCain administration would operate? It bothers me because he is just swinging from the hip, and he “aint got the speed of a lightweight anymore.”
October 8th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Jeffro “Bradley, Bill Ayers was in the Weather underground, An ANTIWAR group. Was the Vietnam war a bad thing to be against, after all we know now? Is it bad to be Antiwar or AntiBush Policy?”
You know alot about that terrorist group, except for the bombings of the Pentagon and other buildings like the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, and the Earth Liberation Front another related spinoff of Bill Ayers
Was it bad to be against the Vietnam war? Why not blame France and say when cowards refuse to act brave men die in their place.
Its wrong to lie about the war then or now, its wrong to falsely accuse Americans of war crimes, its wrong for Dan Rather to make phoney documentary(s) on Vietnam to push the liberal left agenda, it was wrong for moviemakers to invent scenarios that never happened in movies to mock the USA and lie about what happened.
The liberal left was in love with communism in the 1960s and 70s, so they opposed Vietnam for trying to stop the spread of communism. Thats what the protests were about. America was trying to do the right thing.
Of course President Bush was correct to launch the invasion of Irak in March 2003, anyone who disagrees is either ignorant or a supporter of terrorism or just hates America. Ignorant means doesnt know the facts.
Maybe lots of folks on the liberal left dont mind the Ayers connection to Hussein Obama because lots of folks love Ayers antiAmericanism and terrorist acts against the USA.
So why doesnt Hussein just admit more of his links to Ayers and that ilk? its not hurting his poll numbers at all
October 9th, 2008 at 2:13 am
“Of course President Bush was correct to launch the invasion of Irak in March 2003, anyone who disagrees is either ignorant or a supporter of terrorism or just hates America” History has all ready proven that to be very wrong. Being a loyal bushie is not going to do much for your reputation in the near future. You never heard an utterance from the Oathbreaker in Chief that you ever questioned. Not once in your life. You didn’t care if it was wrongheaded. You are a nonthinking person. you get your info from druggie limbaugh and sissy boy hannity. From this day on, History will not be kind to people like you that did’t use your head and think for yourself.
October 9th, 2008 at 2:27 am
Bradley, Are you cool with profiteering during a so called “Time of War”. Answer honestly. Also do you think the people that agree with this occupation should pay a little more in taxes so we don’t have to borrow the money?
October 9th, 2008 at 2:33 am
Oh…my French born and raised husband would go into cardiac arrest if he saw this blog comparing France to America!
I’m saving this for the next time I want to piss him off!
October 9th, 2008 at 8:48 am
If it wasnt for America Danielle there wouldnt be a free France, Remember that. Your biggest exports are wine and white flags………….
October 9th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Obama Quote….” He was just a man that lived in my neighborhood who happens to be an english professor ” and who also wants to overthrow the american government. No wonder Mr. Obama avoids talking about his friend Mr. Ayers.
October 9th, 2008 at 10:31 am
MUST SEE VIDEO OF OBAMA IN KENYA CAMPAIGNING FOR ODINGA!!!
2 minute version:
“Barack Obama and Raila Odinga — Did the Illinois senator violate the Logan Act in campaigning for his ‘genocidist’ cousin’s bid for the Kenyan presidency?”
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1P_P8lBCsE
8 minute version:
“Barack Obama & Raila Odinga”
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ&feature=related
October 9th, 2008 at 10:33 am
Obama ran the WHOLE Weather Underground operation when he was 8 years old, while wearing his footie pajamas!
October 9th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Old lefty if the situation was turned around the LEFT would be going crazy with this. You just want to ignore the facts. TYPICAL.
October 9th, 2008 at 10:38 am
trueamerican,
It IS turned around.
Between the Keating five, that is actually relevant today, and shows a pattern of corruption, the far right wing, racist Freedom Council, the Joe Vogler, etc
Then Bush’s financial connections to the bin Ladins and the Saudis, AFTER 9/11…
You just want to ignore the facts. TYPICAL.
October 9th, 2008 at 10:43 am
I would feel alot better if Hillary Clinton would have been nominated. But this Obama character……”Scary”
October 9th, 2008 at 10:43 am
Wow sounds like Michael Moore is you best friend Lefty…
October 9th, 2008 at 10:44 am
Is Bush running for president again?
October 9th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Like you wouldn’t trotting all the old golden oldies of Clinton smears that built right wing careers.
And NOBODY denies that Saudi Binladin Group, is connected to the Carlyle Group, and that Salem bin Ladin bought out Harkin Energy.
From:
The Wall Street Journal Europe, Friday / Saturday September 28-29 2001, p.4
Bin Laden Family Has Intricate Ties With Washington
Saudi Clan Has Had Access To Influential Republicans
By Staff Reporters Daniel Golden and James Bandler in Boston, and Marcus Walker in Hamburg
October 9th, 2008 at 10:51 am
TrueAmerican: “Is Bush running for president again?”
ABSOLUTELY, under the guise of John “voted with him 90% of the time” McCain.
Unfortunately, a four-year presidency ages someone as 20 years normally would. McCain, at 72, doesn’t have this luxury, and his vapid colleague, who refuses to be interviewed, would be next in line.
Now this IS something to fear.
October 9th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
LMAO I Knew you would jump all over that one…..hehehehe. I have a question for ya. If the more qualified candidate happened to be republican would you vote for him or her? Or would you stay true to your party no matter what the qualifactions or integrity of the candidate?
October 9th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
hmmmmm I watched 2 interviews with Sarah Palin last night.How many interviews does it take to be considered as not refusing.
October 9th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
“If the more qualified candidate happened to be republican would you vote for him or her? Or would you stay true to your party no matter what the qualifactions or integrity of the candidate?”
Posted by trueamerican
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“qualified” is a VERY subjective term.
There were alot of editorials denouncing Abraham Lincoln’n lack of qualifications and experience,(8 years in the Illinois state House and 2 years in the US House.)
I would NOT vote for someone who I thought would take the country in the wrong direction.
October 9th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
You didnt answer the question. Let me rephrase. If you thought the better presidential candidate was the republican candidate would you vote for him or her?
October 9th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Yes Obana and Odinga are just like one.
October 9th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
trueamerican: If the founder of the KKK was running as a democrat they would vote for him. Ignorance is bliss, There are sure alot of happy democrats.
October 9th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Thats too funny LibertarianforMcCain. So what your saying is there just like a football fan they root for there team no matter how bad they are……..
October 9th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Exactly. wouldn’t matter if it was the reincarnation of Hitler. They would be drooling for him just as they do for Obama.
October 9th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Are you guys more than twelve years old?
I REALLY don’t want to be talking to middle school kids on the internet.
October 9th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
“You didnt answer the question. Let me rephrase. If you thought the better presidential candidate was the republican candidate would you vote for him or her?”
Ooo, can I answer? YES! And I have. I voted Republican, all the way up until Bush Jr., so my conscience is clear.
OBAMA/BIDEN, GREAT IN ‘08
October 9th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
TrueAmerican asks:
I think most people vote on the issues, Trueamerican. I’m not sure what you mean by ‘better’, if you mean who is ‘better’ on issues in my opinion, that is always who I cast my vote for. I suspect that is true of most folks.
October 9th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
If you thought the better presidential candidate was the republican candidate would you vote for him or her?
Posted by trueamerican
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The ONLY way to answer that question is, with another….
You seem to be suggesting that YOU would vote for the “better” candidate EVEN if he/she were very liberal.
So is that where we are?
October 9th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Lets look at this like you own a company. Who would you choose to run it for you? The guy who’s background is questionable or the guy who has been in the buisiness for 30+ years and you know everything about because it is all public record?
October 9th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
WOW silence. I hear crickets.
October 9th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
I had a long, fancy, reasonably well written post responding to this Libertarianformccain. But Alan’s blog is eating posts left and right today.
Anyway, not going to write another long post, but the gist of what I have to say is this:
I would have more criteria than what you have listed. Applying your question to the presidential campaign, only using the criteria you have listed, I would equally support either candidate. I don’t think either has a questionable background, and I think they both have plenty of experience.
So, again, it comes down to platforms – and I support Obama’s over McCain’s.
October 9th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
I’d choose the guy who has shown good judgement, NOT the guy who has been in the business for 30+ years and ran it into the ground, and shows a pattern of bad judgement ( Keating), because it is all public record
And by the way, the idea that Obama’s background is questionable is just right wing propaganda, just like when they smeared McCain in 2000.
October 9th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
would you invite Ayers to your home knowing what he did and what he had panned? IS that good judgement in your book?
October 9th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
I agree exactly with you cara I support mccains over obamas though. just about everyone has skeletons in there closet. Old lefty thinks obama is perfect and everything is propoganda.
October 9th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
That is terrible judgement for anyone, unless it doesnt bother you that he would love to overthrow the american government then I guess its ok. And for that poor judgement Obama should not be elected as President of the United States.
October 9th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Libertarianformccain now wants to know our criteria for dinner guests:
Depends, how good a bottle of wine will he be bringing?
And, as far as I know, Obama never had Ayers over to his home, so why are you even asking this fantasy question?
October 9th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Libertarianformccain,
You keep asking all these questions. I have one for you:
If you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be?
October 9th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Politicians will do just about anything for a dollar or a bottle of wine as cara says.
October 9th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
From reading all the liberals posts in here, it seems to me that they dont care who there candidate is or what there candidate has done or stands for, you just want a win for your party. Thats pathetic……
October 9th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
“would you invite Ayers to your home”
It’s a silly issue.
McCain went frequently to the homes of Keating, who probably did more REAL damage to people.
Would you take money from G Gordon Liddy and go on his show and praise him? IS that good judgement in your book?
Actually, I agree with about 75% of Obama’s platform.
You want to argue about FISA, or the bailout, I’m with you.
I just feel you guys are now just spreading the SAME vile rumors the right spread about Clinton, McCain, Gore and Kerry. It’s been their MO since Lee Atwater.
It’s the same thing EVERY four years.
October 9th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Trueamerican concludes:
Not true, True. My candidate stands for this, and I support it. And I don’t have a party, in fact in over 20 years of voting this will be the first time I have voted for a major party candidate. The fact that you find it ‘pathetic’ that people would come to a different conclusion than you, is, well, pathetic.
It’s a big world out there True. There are folks who don’t think exactly like you, who have a different political agenda than you. It doesn’t make them ‘pathetic’. Saddam era Iraq had 100% of the people voting for Saddam, is that what you want for America? Anything less is pathetic?
Anyway, I want to answer Libertarianamerican’s question about my hypothetical dinner party with Ayers. So, Lib., what kind of wine is he bringing, anyway?
October 9th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Old lefty says “I’d choose the guy who has shown good judgement” I guess you think inviting a domestic terrorist to your house shows good judgement.
October 9th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Cara I think its pathetic that people vote for a party and not the candidate. And dont deny it there are people like that.
October 9th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Trueamerican,
Which candidate invited a terrorist to his house? What are you even talking about? I assume you are referring to Obama as the candidate and Ayers as the terrorist?
What evidence do you have that Obama ever had Ayers in his home?
October 9th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
You didn’t care when Bush has bin Ladins and others who fund al Qaeda over, or again G Gordon Liddy.
I don’t think ANY of it is that big of a deal.
Ayres is molehill instead of a mountain, just like Mcain sitting on the board of the radical Freedom Council.
If it was Hillary, you would be repeating ALL the gossip about the Clintons.
When McCain ran against Bush, the right attacked him in the same way.
October 9th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Trueamerican said:
I guess you think inviting a domestic terrorist to your house shows good judgement.
What candidate invited a domestic terrorist to his house? Can you back that accusation up?
October 9th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Trueamerican said:
Cara I think its pathetic that people vote for a party and not the candidate. And dont deny it there are people like that.
Yea, a lot of Republicans and Democrats vote party line. No it is not pathetic. Some people think they know their party better than they know their candidate. Sometimes it can be fairly difficult to even know anything about a given candidate, especially in local politics. So the party gives some people a basic guideline to follow.
October 9th, 2008 at 6:33 pm