McCain Dances With The Dark Side
And Jonathan Capehart shows how chilling it is.
This is what McCain and Palin have engendered.
They seem to have no qualms appealing to the cultural fears of their agitated, and now energized, base by practically branding Obama as un-American or anti-American. And this is eliciting an ugliness at McCain-Palin events that is justifiably raising alarms that some nut job is going to act on the Republican ticket’s cynical campaigning.
Their lack of willingness to confront shouts of “terrorist!” and “kill him!” at their rallies, and their decision to push the Ayres story as they have, has made this perhaps the dirtiest, most despicable presidential campaign ever. One can certainly bring up past and present associations, but the mud-slingers won’t accept the answers once the question is asked. They won’t let go, even after Obama has fully answered about Ayres.
Should John McCain have to answer about his long-time friend and political donor, G. Gordon Liddy?
…G. Gordon Liddy, the convicted Watergate burglar whose colorful history includes telling listeners to his radio show in 1994 to shoot federal agents in the head. When McCain went on Liddy’s radio show in November 2007, he told Liddy, “I’m proud of you, I’m proud of your family… It’s always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great.”
What else has Liddy done?
Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in “if necessary”; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a “gangland figure” to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap “leftist guerillas” at the 1972 Republican National Convention — a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis.
But I don’t care that John McCain is friendly with and likes G. Gordon Liddy. I like the guy, too, and have had a cordial relationship with him. But using the Ayres/Obama argument, no one who ever palled around with G. Gordon should ever run for president.
Palin cites the Times story to validate her continued attacks. But executive editor Bill Keller says it’s the other way around.
He told Politico that the paper was motivated to report out the Ayers link because the McCain campaign has been pushing it – not the other way around.
“We’ve reported the Ayers relationship before, and we had it on our to-do list for a while to take a more comprehensive look,” Keller said in an e-mail. “When the McCain campaign began to make it a major focal point of ads and stump speeches, we decided the time was right.”
But if Palin wanted to use the Times story to bolster her argument, she should have noted its conclusion:
The Times’ 2,100-word piece concluded that while Obama “has played down his contacts” with Ayers – a former leader of the Weather Underground who’s now an education professor at the University of Illinois – “the two men do not appear to have been close.”
A McCain strategist told the New York Daily News, “It’s a dangerous road, but we have no choice. If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we’re going to lose.” But the man who once said, “I won’t take the lowest road to the highest office in the land.” should know by now that it’s better to lose with honor than to win with none. As things are looking now, he’ll probably lose with dishonor.
absolutely disgusting.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1xQeOPE9ePU/SO-uhtPokDI/AAAAAAAACqQ/cUn3i5MSuj4/s1600-h/craigslisthate.jpg
October 10th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
“I won’t take the lowest road to the highest office in the land.” John said that before he consciously or subconsciously sold his soul. It’s unfortunate from the outside looking in, bc he has a wonderful heart. I believe his heart is telling him that he is the best person to take care of the people, and he’s compromising his character (again, whether he realizes it or not) to obtain the Presidency. It’s very sad.
It’s tragic that the Conservatives are playing on racial issues. They’re not dumb enough (surprisingly) to blatantly say that’s what they’re doing, but they don’t have a problem with it going on. That’s a damned shame.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Lincoln Chafee, a former Republican senator from Rhode Island,
McCain campaigned for Chafee’s
“That’s not my kind of Republicanism,” said Chafee, who now calls himself an independent. “I saw what Bush and Cheney did. They came in with a (budget) surplus and a stable world, and look what’s happened now. In eight short years they’ve taken one peaceful and prosperous world, and they’ve torn it into tatters.”
October 10th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Wait, so it’s racist if your white, but its ok if your black..ummmm NO, if you vote for a candiate due to his skin color, YOU ARE A RACIST !!!!
October 10th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Basic man,
What racist comment have we seen from black people?
October 10th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
yes this is another episode of saying only whites are racist; Obama is a black racist, and so is Oprah Winfrey and the crowd they are with
What was Watergate about? Democrats selling top secrets to communist Russia/USSR and Nixon wanted to defend the USA and find out what they were doing.
To cover up their high crimes, democrats started a smear campaign thru the Washington Post to make it seem like a break in was this incredible crime; but the democrats’ selling top military/govt secrets to America’s sworn enemy during the cold war was somehow just fine????
Nixon was the good guy in Watergate
October 10th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Basic Man,
This is a racial spin tactic that is rampant among the liberals. Stick around, you’ll see more of it within a short time. Oldlefty plays dumb frequently, as you can see. Nah, his mindlessness is hereditary.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Alan Colmes said:
But I don’t care that John McCain is friendly with and likes G. Gordon Liddy. I like the guy, too, and have had a cordial relationship with him.
Yea, the G. man comes across to me as a crazy old uncle who would be fun to hang out with. I always enjoyed his show. I am a too young to remember Watergate, but then Obama is too young to remember the Weathermen too.
But using the Ayres/Obama argument, no one who ever palled around with G. Gordon should ever run for president.
I don’t think even McCain buys that argument. Let’s see if he is man enough to confront Obama with it face to face in the debate, or if he continues to have his wife and Palin push the attack behind Obama’s back.
But if Palin wanted to use the Times story to bolster her argument, she should have noted its conclusion:
Get serious Alan, Palin does not read newspapers, she told us that much already. She reads the scripts the McCain campaign gives her.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Basic Man,
Oldlefty believes Iran is also a democracy of free election, and that Ahmadinejhad’s “election” was free of corruption. Oldlefty has no understanding of the clerical control within the country. That’s a liberal for ya.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
THIS IS YOUR NATION ON WHITE PRIVILEGE
White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because “every family has challenges,” even as black and Latino families with similar “challenges” are regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
THIS IS YOUR NATION ON WHITE PRIVILEGE
White privilege is when you can claim that being mayor of a town smaller than most medium-sized colleges, and then Governor of a state with about the same number of people as the lower fifth of the island of Manhattan, makes you ready to potentially be president, and people don’t all piss on themselves with laughter, while being a black U.S. Senator, two-term state Senator, and constitutional law scholar, means you’re “untested.”
October 10th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
THIS IS YOUR NATION ON WHITE PRIVILEGE
White privilege is not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is when asked by a reporter, and then people get angry at the reporter for asking you such a “trick question,” while being black and merely refusing to give one-word answers to the queries of Bill O’Reilly means you’re dodging the question, or trying to seem overly intellectual and nuanced.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
THIS IS YOUR NATION ON WHITE PRIVILEGE
White privilege is being able to go to a prestigious prep school, then to Yale and Harvard Business School (George W. Bush), and still be seen as an “average guy,” while being black, going to a prestigious prep school, then Occidental College, then Columbia, and then Harvard Law, makes you “uppity” and a snob who probably looks down on regular folks.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
UM CARA,
Sarah Palin has a degree in jounalism. What’s yours in?
October 10th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
THIS IS YOUR NATION ON WHITE PRIVILIGE
White privilege is being able to dump your first wife after she’s disfigured in a car crash so you can take up with a multi-millionaire beauty queen (who you then go on to call the c-word in public) and still be thought of as a man of strong family values, while if you’re black and married for nearly 20 years to the same woman, your family is viewed as un-American and your gestures of affection for each other are called “terrorist fist bumps.”
October 10th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
THIS IS YOUR NATION ON WHITE PRIVILEGE
White privilege is when you can develop a pain-killer addiction, having obtained your drug of choice illegally like Cindy McCain, go on to beat that addiction, and everyone praises you for being so strong, while being a black guy who smoked pot a few times in college and never became an addict means people will wonder if perhaps you still get high, and even ask whether or not you may have sold drugs at some point.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
The Conservative,
Please click here for my response to your question.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
WTF,
You sound like a typical black crybaby who can’t seem to get his fair share of a welfare handout. Here’s what all other Americans do. They finish school then get a job. If thats not a part of your agenda, then sell crack.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
some sick people.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1xQeOPE9ePU/SO-7MctOreI/AAAAAAAACqY/v0YKXICIIIY/s1600-h/craigslist2.jpg
October 10th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
“WTF,
You sound like a typical black”
sorry to burst your bubble, i’m not black.
those are quotes from an author, Tim Wise…oh yeah, because it matters to you it seems, he’s white.
http://www.redroom.com/blog/tim-wise/this-your-nation-white-privilege-updated
October 10th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Excellent posts WTF. Seriously suberb and all hit it right on the nail. Thanks for that.
October 10th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
You sound like a typical black crybaby who can’t seem to get his fair share of a welfare handout. Here’s what all other Americans do. They finish school then get a job. If thats not a part of your agenda, then sell crack.
Posted by The Conservative
__________
Hey Mr. Conservative, what time is your KKK meeting tonight?
I’m sure you make all conservatives very proud.
October 10th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
WTF~ I am VERY impressed with your comment! That was very well stated.
It’s not just the race issue, but a socio-economic one as well.
October 10th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
“Hey Mr. Conservative, what time is your KKK meeting tonight? ”
probably at the next mccain palin rally, right after dinner with the AIP.
October 10th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
“UM CARA,
My comment was meant for those with a greater understanding than yourself. I recommend you brush up on your math, and comprehension skills which will enable others to understand you.”
Posted by The Conservative
October 10th, 2008 at 10:55 am
………………………………….
“Basic Man,
Oldlefty believes Iran is also a democracy of free election, and that Ahmadinejhad’s “election” was free of corruption. Oldlefty has no understanding of the clerical control within the country. That’s a liberal for ya.”
Posted by The Conservative
October 10th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
……………………………….
WTF,
You sound like a typical black crybaby who can’t seem to get his fair share of a welfare handout. Here’s what all other Americans do. They finish school then get a job. If thats not a part of your agenda, then sell crack.
Posted by The Conservative
October 10th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
……………………………
******************************
Do you realize how much this sounds like Middle school?
You know, Um Cara seems to deal in a lot more than just insults.
I may be connected to more history, or people at work, school etc who know more about Iran than you do…Maybe not, (I don’t want to sound as arrogant as some of these right wingers).
I suggest that if people post things that do not comport with your view of the world, you look them up.
And WTF may be black, white, or hispanic, who came from less than you, and has worked harder, or maybe not .
The point is, you DON”T know!
The fact that you have to put everyone in these little demeaning compartments, I think shows a desparation to reenforce a world view that is being exposed as simply not true.
October 10th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
The Conservative’s comment brings us right back to what WTF initially said. His comment is worth reposting.
White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because “every family has challenges,” even as black and Latino families with similar “challenges” are regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.
October 10th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
McCain Camp Pushes back on Rally Criticism
“McCain campaign spokesman Brian Rogers…Obama just doesn’t understand regular people and the issues they care about.”
REGULAR PEOPLE????? “Kill him”, “Off with his head”, “terrorist”, “commie fa&&ot”, “Ni&&er”….
THAT’S REGULAR PEOPLE??????
I had to go look at my calendar to make sure it was still 2008, and not the 1960’s.
October 10th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Old,
***You want a list from Farrakhan and Wright? You know Farrakahn thinks Obama is the messiah.
***Why don’t dems point these comments out made by black illinois politicians regarding Obama?
“He went to Harvard and became an educated fool,” he says scornfully of Obama, and declares, “We’re not impressed with these folks with these eastern elite degrees.” (Bobby Rush)
“Barack is viewed in part to be the white man in blackface in our community,” says Donne Trotter, who detests Obama. “You just have to look at his supporters. Who pushed him to get where he is so fast? (Donne Trotter)
obama himself said:
“And so the only way they figure they’re going to win this election is if they make you scared of me. So what they’re saying is, ‘Well, we know we’re not very good but you can’t risk electing Obama. You know, he’s new, he’s… doesn’t look like the other presidents on the currency, you know, he’s got a, he’s got a funny name.’
“I mean, that’s basically the argument — he’s too risky,”
I guess you can only play the race card if you are black, and if you are a democrat accusing a republican of being racist?
He got one thing right. He is too risky.
October 10th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Oldlefty, Cheryl, WTF,
It is a total waste of time to try to discuss anything with The Conservative. He ignores what you post, then responds with a sixth grade insult.
My guess is that he is an alter-ego of one of the other posters. Or maybe he is just a bored troll. Anyway, you guys can spend your energy talking to him if you want (obviously), but personally, I am going to ignore his posts and engage with the more serious conservative posters that populate this blog.
I enjoy having real discussions with people I disagree with, I enjoy the occasional well done flame, but The Conservative is not capable of conversation, nor an interesting insult.
Maybe if we all ignore him, he will go away, OR, much, much better – actually engage in conversation.
My two cents.
October 10th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
“even as black and Latino families with similar “challenges” ”
for decades we have been told by the right, if only you went to church, if only your didn’t put career first, if only you didn’t teach sex ed, if only you followed MY beliefs, your daughter wouldn’t be in this mess.
The uproar wasn’t that Bristol became pregnant, but it was a loud message of – SHUT UP ABOUT MY LIFE AND MY CHOICES. You tried it your way and it didn’t work, let our families do what WE think is best. Stop lecturing to everyone as if only YOU know the answer.
October 10th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Cheryl,
How then do you explain all the NBA players with multiple children by multiple mothers who are african american and they are idolized?
You act as if everyone who is white is a racist or a bigot. That is not the case. There is good and bad in every race, in every party, in every culture, period. Do you think Bill Cosby is a racist? He is pretty outspoken about how his own race deals with teen pregnancy and parenthood in general.
If you want to hear racism, listen to the comments made by Sandra Barnhardt and james Carville. Barnhardt thinks Palin will be gang raped by a bunch of big black men if she dares to walk through certain neighborhoods in New York. Carville claimed young black men would riot in the streets if Obama isn’t elected.
And if I remember correctly, a white man, Alan Colmes who is a liberal posted a blog a few days ago about Jamie Lynn Spears? He also posted multiple blogs about Bristol Palin. Both white.
October 10th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
It appears that McCain’s campaign, perhaps witlessly, is designed to incite civil war.
October 10th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
CHERYL CARROL,
Here’s the liberal spin. Sarah Palin’s daughter is a slut. Pregnant daughters of liberal parents just made a bad decision. Have I got that right Cheryl?
October 10th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
“How then do you explain all the NBA players with multiple children by multiple mothers who are african american and they are idolized?”
They are not idolized because they have multiple children, (and there are players who don’t), they are idolized because they are great athletes.
Cheryl, who has been on this blog for a long time, has never acted or posted as if she thinks everyone who is white is a bigot. She and others are simply making the point that there is a double standard concerning the different reactions to when white females become pregnant versus when black females do. Black females are constantly critiqued and have been for years and most of the criticism comes from conservatives. But when someone like Bristol Palin is “with child”, conservatives scream bloody murder if a single disdainful word is uttered and respond that it is nobody’s business but the people involved
If this had been Barack Obama’s daughter the story would been discussed and ranted about on conservative talk radio until the child was born.
Black females – bad. White females such as Bristol … She’s a good girl who made a mistake and everyone should mind their business!
It’s called hypocrisy.
October 10th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
UM CARA,
I’m a conservative, my insults are not to be agreeable from the liberal viewpoint, nitwit.
October 10th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
WOW, Mccain comes to his senses.
http://thepage.time.com/2008/10/10/stop-the-presses/
After days of watching in silence, McCain calms the crowd at a Minnesota town meeting.
“I want everyone to be respectful. And let’s make sure we are, because that’s the way politics is done in America.”
Tells one supporter who says he’s scared of an Obama presidency: “I have to tell you, he is a decent person, a person that you do not have to be scared [of] as president of the United States.”
After a woman calls Obama “an Arab terrorist” McCain interrupts to say: “No, ma’am. He is a decent family man with whom I happen to have some disagreements.”
October 10th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Epiphany,
If Barack Obama’s daughter isn’t pregnant why use her within your argument? More typical liberal spin.
October 10th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
After a woman calls Obama “an Arab terrorist”
McCain interrupts to say: “No, ma’am. He is a decent family man with whom I happen to have some disagreements.”
>>>>>>>>>>>
DO YOU hear that you neocon nutjobs. What, are you now going to call Mccain a terrorist sympathizer.
for those who can’t ‘hear’ – McCain says Barack Hussein Obama is a decent family man.
Now put down those pitchforks!!!!!!
October 10th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
I said IF Barack Obama’s daughter had been pregnant, what the reaction would have been.
It’s called a hypothetical situation.
American Heritage Dictionary:
hy·po·thet·i·cal (hī’pə-thět’ĭ-kəl)
adj.
Of, relating to, or based on a hypothesis: a hypothetical situation. See Synonyms at theoretical.
Suppositional; uncertain. See Synonyms at supposed.
Conditional; contingent.
n. A hypothetical circumstance, condition, scenario, or situation: OK, let’s consider this possibility then—just as a hypothetical.
October 10th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
EVERYONE CHECK THIS OUT!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/10/mccain-defends-his-rabid_n_133710.html
Even McCain now realizes how dangerous it was to get people to feel hate. This man needs to get his act together before it gets more out of hand!
October 10th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
HOLY MOLY! Just watched what WTF was referring to on the Chris Matthews show “Hardball” on MSNBC. THEY BOOED MCCAIN! Matthews showed two clips from the latest McCain rally with the woman who called Obama an Arab and another instance where someone else insulted Obama and in both clips McCain defended Obama as being a good American. In the second clip, the crowd actually BOOED MCCAIN!!! I’m serious! Can you believe this??? His campaign people must be going nuts right now.
Well McCain only has himself to blame.
I’m hoping Keith Olbermann shows it on his show in a little while.
Sad and pathetic, made me sick to my stomach.
October 10th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
What kind of strategy is this?
Get people to FEAR the next Presdident.
Old man and the eye twitchy hockey mom need to start acting like adults and not a couple of lunatics. Even with the crazies that show up here, REPUBLICANS aren’t happy with this new strategy. It’s not just “liberals” and the “liberal media”. There are a lot of stupid people in this country, but they had their chance. It’s time for the grownups to be in charge..
October 10th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
A Bush guy,
Lt Gen William “Jerry” Boykin, the newly promoted deputy undersecretary of state of defence for intelligence.
Gen Boykin has repeatedly told Christian groups and prayer meetings that President George W Bush was chosen by God to lead the global fight against Satan.
He told one gathering: “Why is this man in the White House? The majority of Americans did not vote for him. He’s in the White House because God put him there for a time such as this.”
This guy commands troops…THAT’S DANGEROUS!
October 10th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
You know, it’s kind of funny in a way. It must have been a year ago that I received my first email with the declaration that BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS A MUSLIM! That’s when all the hate and racism began. And it grew and grew and grew… until now it’s come full circle.
Not an email but full blown right in John McCain’s face.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Ther e is a story about Bush attending a fund raiser with a guy who was under investigation by the FBI as a Palistinin terrorist.
I’ve tried four different ways, his name and info will not post.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Epiphany,
Using a hypothetical circumstance is just another liberal spin to justify the argument. Isn’t that right, Epiphany?
October 10th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
The Right said the SAME things about the Clintons:
From The Sentinel:
,
“More disturbing than that crazy cackle is Mrs. Clinton’s Marxist ideologue. Her ties to the Communist Party are not conspiracy theory; they are fact. Her radical ideology stems from a past that she tries desperately to downplay.
A not-so-well-known fact is Hillary’s work at a “progressive” law firm. In the summer of 1971, she worked as a law clerk for the firm of Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein. Robert Treuhaft was card-carrying member of the Communist Party USA and a Harvard-trained lawyer for the party”.
.
Bush scared people in South Carolina, saying that McCain not stable….
He has connections with:
U.S. Council for World Freedom”
G. Gordon Liddy
Keating
I’m done with these silly things.
They are meant only to comfort those who want or need to hate Obama
October 10th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
McSame/Failin ‘08!
October 10th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
WTF,
I can’t seem to find anyone, left or right who’s able to clearly define what the Bush Doctrin is. Since you brought it up, please give us that clear definition.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
“I’m done with these silly things.”
hopefully we can move on to fixing this country instead of all this silliness that the only ones cared about were the neocon extremists.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Cara said~ “It is a total waste of time to try to discuss anything with The Conservative. He ignores what you post, then responds with a sixth grade insult.”
I already know this.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
This damned thing isn’t letting me submit the rest of my commentary.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
“I can’t seem to find anyone, left or right who’s able to clearly define what the Bush Doctrin is.”
just ask mccain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNmKat4RX-g
October 10th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
T.Mason said~ “How then do you explain all the NBA players with multiple children by multiple mothers who are african american and they are idolized?”
There’s no one answer to this one. However, I would encourage you to begin understanding the social and psychological mindset of many in the black community with a book called
October 10th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
the miseducation of the negro by Carter G. Woodson.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
John mccain and the bush doctrine. At least Mccain understands the question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJDEPlsThIA&NR=1
October 10th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
I would then advise you to look at the state of the black community
October 10th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
during and after
October 10th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Reconstruction, the Depression,
October 10th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
and then at the
October 10th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
this is ridiculous. it won’t take my post. i give up.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
They need to do something about the filters or whatever it is.
It’s getting to the point that we will have to post one sentence at a time.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
yes, it is kind of…whats the right word…erratic. :)
October 10th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
This ia an awsome story:
Singer/songwriter Gretchen Peters is citing hypocrisy on reproductive health issues and the use of her song, “Independence Day” by the McCain-Palin campaign as reason to donate royalties from the song to Planned Parenthood, in Sarah Palin’s name. The song was a 1994 hit for country and western music legend Martina McBride.
When the GOP used “Independence Day” to usher Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin to the stage after the debate in St. Louis, Peters realized the party was truly perverting the chorus of her composition to suit their agenda and it was high time for Peters to make her feelings known.”
October 10th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Did Obama say on TV that his muslim Faith! I know! we as Christian alway forget that we are Christians and say muslim all the time!
October 10th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
I fear you guys are spinning so furiously you will cause another hurricaine!
October 10th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
WTF is the crap from within. he is one of these dumb liberal white people that hate other whites. to say mccain supporters are racist and obama supporters are in the right and saints is exactly what is wrong with our education system. you idiots never critiqued anything you were taught by liberals in school. its ok for greater than 95% of black people to vote for obama just b/c hes black (even black conservatives) but if you’re white and vote for mccain you are racist. you liberals are the saddest crap walking the face of the Earth.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Pink, I don’t care whether he is muslim or christian, I don’t want any president to govern because of his religion dictating his choices. I dont want a theocracy.
Enough wars have been started on religion alone.
really, I don’t care what religion he (or anyone is), but I do want someone to bring back the power and awesomeness of this country, for ALL people – not just christians. (and please, this country was not based on Christianity, so dont even go there).
October 10th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
why dont we hear more about all the voter fraud the liberals are doing right now? where are the headlines on this you wack bias liberal media stations.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Alanisaconservative,
“you idiots never critiqued anything you were taught by liberals in school. its ok for greater than 95% of black people to vote for obama just b/c hes black”
…………………………..
All those black people voted for Clinton, Gore, and Kerry in the past.
I’m sorry that you can’t seem to get over Obama, but I have a feeling it would be the same if it were Hillary, even though it’s easy to say NOW, she would not have been that bad.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
“WTF is the crap from within. he is one of these dumb liberal white people that hate other whites. ”
sorry to burst your bubble again… not white. I love white people, married one actually!!!!
October 10th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
alan would rather put up post about racist white people than the 5800 dead that get to vote this year.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Hey, How come none of the Conservative people are commenting on the Sara Palin breaking news? I am trying to see how you all are going to tie this to Ayers and Rev. Wright.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
well whatever you are you are the racist…anyone that dwells on it the way you do is just projecting their personal hatred for other races. I heard chris rock in a comedy routine once…black guy he knows hates white people…married to a white woman…so whats your point there wtf?
October 10th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Why do most of the conservatives on here (most but not all) speak as if they were in a schoolyard filled with frustration and rage? It’s kinda sad, don’t you think?
Try a nice hot cup of tea. No tea? Try some Ovaltine. My mother used to make that for me when I was a child.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Why don’t we hear about the election fraud the conservatives are abd have been doing?
Tens of thousands illegally denied voting rights
In Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, Nevada and North Carolina, eligible voters were taken off rolls, and new registrations were blocked, illegally.
WASHINGTON (AFP) – Tens of thousands of voters in at least six battleground states have been removed from election rolls or have been illegally blocked from registering to vote, according to an investigation by the New York Times published Thursday.
Or in 2004:
The Aug. 14 letter from Walden O’Dell, chief executive of Diebold voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is “committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year.”
In heavily Democratic areas around Youngstown, where nearly 100 voters reported entering ”Kerry” on the touch screen and watching ”Bush” light up, at least twenty machines had to be recalibrated in the middle of the voting process for chronically flipping Kerry votes to Bush.(165) (Similar ”vote hopping” from Kerry to Bush was reported by voters and election officials in other states.)
Oh, well:
Paul Weyrich, father of the right-wing movement and co-founder of the Heritage Foundation, and Moral Majority :
Weyrich:
“Now many of our Christians have what I call the goo-goo syndrome — good government. They want everybody to vote. I don’t want everybody to vote. Elections are not won by a majority of people, they never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now. As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
I dont give a crap about ayers or wright, I am talking about obama. his policys are pure socialist no matter who he learned or asociated with. he is going to destroy the American way of life and you idiot liberals fall for it. investors already see it and they are pulling out.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
“married to a white woman…so whats your point there wtf?”
well, you claimed I hated whites…nope, I love them. And some of my best friends are white. :)
October 10th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
“policys are pure socialist ”
so tell us all, what makes his a socialist?
October 10th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
Alanisaconservative said (in part)
he is one of these dumb liberal white people that hate other whites. to say mccain supporters are racist and obama supporters are in the right and saints is exactly what is wrong with our education system.
Where are these dumb liberal white people who hate other whites, what the hell are you talking about?
And most McCain supporters are not racist, though yesterday, YOU said this:
Hmm.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
WTF said:
And some of my best friends are white. :)
LOL!!!
October 10th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
so tell us all, what makes his a socialist?
His tax plan.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
and your point is…..?
you idiot. I never said mccain supporters are not racist…AT THE SAME TIME I say obama supporters are just as racist or more so. if you like to go get my quotes also know that I said racism is not ignorant…it is primitive. the liberal white people that hate other whites b/c they are racist and liberals are not…heh…b/c they are intellectual are all around you. they are elitist. they believe they are superior to their own primitive instincts.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Why do most of the conservatives on here (most but not all) speak as if they were in a schoolyard filled with frustration and rage?
Actually, most posters here fit that description, on both sides.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Pino,
Are all politicians who support progressive tax plans socialists in your view?
October 10th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Alanisaconservative,
There are quite a few folks who are not racist, you blaming your feelings of inferiority on ‘primitive instinct’ is a cop out.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
wtf likes white people that are scared to be racist or make racial jokes…even though they are the funniest.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Hey, How come none of the Conservative people are commenting on the Sara Palin breaking news?
The trooper tasered a kid and threatened a man’s life. He should have been fired.
I am trying to see how you all are going to tie this to Ayers and Rev. Wright.
Palin exercised good judgment. Obama did (and continues to) not use good judgment regarding Ayers and Wright.
Hows that?
October 10th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Are all politicians who support progressive tax plans socialists in your view?
No. Thats the plan we have in place today.
But, can you tell me Obama’s plan? Lets see if you get the details.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
well thats where you and I disagree. I personally believe everyone is racist, and those that say they are not are usually the MOST racist. I have always found that people are mostly the opposite of what they say they are. so I am a dumb idiotic joe-six-pack.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
” so tell us all, what makes his a socialist?
His tax plan.”
we already have progressive tax… so by your definition we have been living in a socialist society under bush’s rule.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Pino,
Actually, most posters here fit that description, on both sides.
I disagree, I don’t think it is most posters, and I do think there are a higher number of them on the conservative side. You aren’t one of them – but there are a whole lot more conservative wackos who post on this site than liberal wackos.
I think certain nutty right wing blogs point folks here occasionally, based on specific posts of Alan’s. I also think many Fox viewers are outraged that a liberal commentator is permitted on ‘their’ network, and take their frustration out on Alan, here.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
“The trooper tasered a kid and threatened a man’s life. He should have been fired.”
agreed. but there’s a right way and wrong way. Palin chose the wrong way.
remember how it wasn’t about the sex, but that he lied about the sex. same thing. It wasn’t that he didn’t deserve to be fired, its how it was lied about.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
“feelings of inferiority” heh that sounds like something a racist liberal who has been brainwashed would say.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
we already have progressive tax… so by your definition we have been living in a socialist society under bush’s rule.
See above. Same question. Same expectations.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
I come here to get both sides and to be entertained.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Pino mentions,
The trooper tasered a kid and threatened a man’s life. He should have been fired.
Have both of those accusations been substantiated? I ask because if I understood the story correctly at the top of H&C the review found that Palin had exaggerated much in order to deflect the objections to her and the first dude’s actions.
The accusations may very well have been substantiated, the news was breaking when H&C started.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Obama tax plan
- The top two income-tax brackets would return to their 1990s levels of 36% and 39.6% (including the exemption and deduction phase-outs). All other brackets would remain as they are today.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
Obama tax plan
- The top capital-gains rate for families making more than $250,000 would return to 20% — the lowest rate that existed in the 1990s and the rate President Bush proposed in his 2001 tax cut. A 20% rate is almost a third lower than the rate President Reagan set in 1986.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Obama tax plan
- The tax rate on dividends would also be 20% for families making more than $250,000, rather than returning to the ordinary income rate. This rate would be 39% lower than the rate President Bush proposed in his 2001 tax cut and would be lower than all but five of the last 92 years we have been taxing dividends.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Obama tax plan
- The estate tax would be effectively repealed for 99.7% of estates, and retained at a 45% rate for estates valued at over $7 million per couple. This would cut the number of estates covered by the tax by 84% relative to 2000.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
mccain is an idiot.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Obama tax plan
Overall, in an Obama administration, the top 1% of households — people with an average income of $1.6 million per year — would see their average federal income and payroll tax rate increase from 21% today to 24%, less than the 25% these households would have paid under the tax laws of the late 1990s.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Bob in Vegas is the man on the radio show.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Have both of those accusations been substantiated?
Well, the trooper admitted he tased the kid. If he comes out and denies the threat, as I think he has, it would be “my word” and “your word”.
Obama tax plan
Thats simply letting the Bush cuts expire. What about HIS plan. What is Obama’s tax plan?
October 10th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
What about HIS plan. What is Obama’s tax plan?
WTF, I apologize. I see now that you are continuing.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Pino,
I have reviewd Obama’s plan, it is not socialism.
I presume the primary concerns you have with it are the various tax credits? It is my least favorite part of his plan, to be honest. But it is not socialism.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
The issue is not what the trooper did, it is the unlawful pressure that the governor placed on the director. The firing is a separate matter altogether.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
We should also anticipate the slower, deliberate path for Obama in the crisis. His approach of cautious measures not countering the efforts of the administration, or being a “loose cannon” on developing independent actions that would complicate the matter is the same path he has successfully taken throughout the situation.
We should anticipate something prior to Wednesday, though, so that he can use it in the debate and explain it further…whatever it turns out to be.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Pino,
I am surpised you did not review it prior to labeling it as ’socialism’. His plan is not exactly hidden, Pino.
How did you decide it was socialism without actually looking at it?
October 10th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
It’s a talking point. You hear it enough and you believe it. Besides, there are so many different forms of socialism. Even our SOCIAL security is a form of socialism. And it looks like the banks will soon be nationalized, what you would see in a socialistic society. The way we provide health care for military personnel is socialistic. And mccains plan to bail out bad mortgages, socialism.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
http://www.dictionary.com definition of terrorist:
a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities
Religious nutjobs at Republican rallies yelling ‘kill him’ for political purposes. Need we ask who the real terrorists are?
October 10th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Terrorists of just lynch mob.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Conservative Sheeple….
October 10th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
so is anyone going to respond to what in Obama’s tax plan makes it socialistic?
October 10th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
WTF asks:
Since none of the conservative posters have taken up the challenge, I’ll do so.
Rush Limbaugh told me it was! I don’t have to read it, or know what is in it, Rush said so.
How do you like them apples, WTF. Let’s see you refute that! If you have any honor at all WTF you will ADMIT Obama is a socialist now that you have been presented with the evidence.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Um Cara…LOL
at least someone answered!!!!!
they are probably trying to google the best answer to handle the palin effect.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
un cara, what coding are you using for your quotes (and have seen bold as well).
October 10th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
so is anyone going to respond to what in Obama’s tax plan makes it socialistic?
WTF, you should cite your sources:
http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB121867201724238901.html
I am surpised you did not review it
I did, It is empty
Cut taxes for 95 percent of workers and their families with a tax cut of $500 for workers or $1,000 for working couples.
Do you know what % of workers and their families pay taxes today? How long would this plan last?
October 10th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
un cara, what coding are you using for your quotes (and have seen bold as well).
Lets see if ‘ol Um cits HIS sources as well.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
and how is his plan socialistic???
October 10th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Oh yeah, the authors of that WSJ article:
Messrs. Furman and Goolsbee are, respectively, economic policy director and senior economic adviser at Obama for America.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
and which form of socialism are you arguing that obama is arguing for??
October 10th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
and how is his plan socialistic???
The only thing his plan has “going for it” is the 95% thing. So, again, what % of Americans have a federal income tax burden?
October 10th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
so the economic advisor and economic director is not allowed to lay out obama’s tax plan??? who would you have to lay out the tax plan???
October 10th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Pino,
I gave you the direct link to the plan, it is not empty. My source is the direct source of the detailed tax plan on his website. Scroll up and look for my link to his plan, read it, and come back to us.
For McCain’s plan, the source I used was McCain’s website. I like primary sources.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
WTF,
They are just html tags, the ones I use are
italics
bold
It’s hard to show how to do it, because the site interprets them and you can see them. If you don’t know how to use html, let me know and I’ll do a little mini tutorial using parenthesis instead of greather than less than signs.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
it is not empty
Sorry Um, you are correct. The link works and the page is presented. I didn’t mean technically empty. I mean substantially.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
I guess you could argue that everything that every advisor obama has is lying. That everything on his website are lies. I guess he can go the Bush 1 route and say no new taxes, and then raise taxes. but what of his known tax plan is socialistic?
October 10th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
but what of his known tax plan is socialistic?
What % of Americans have no Federal Income Tax burden?
October 10th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
So you don’t understand his plan, but it is socialistic. Not the strongest argument I have ever seen you make, Pino.
Click on the
October 10th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
but what of his known tax plan is socialistic?
October 10th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
oops, hit enter too soon.
click on the ‘full obama tax plan’ link at the bottom of that page, Pino. You will find many details.
But seriously, where did you get the idea that his plan was socialist if you had never seen it? It has been on his site for a long time.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
So you don’t understand his plan, but it is socialistic. Not the strongest argument I have ever seen you make, Pino.
Wax on. Wax off. Let WTF continue……
October 10th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
if you had never seen it?
I have seen it. I admit it. I have seen it.
I just come to a different conclusion than you.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
“What % of Americans have no Federal Income Tax burden?”
you tell me what it was when bush came into office, and what it is now.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Never mind Pino, I thought you were interested in a serious conversation.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Sigh.
It appears that WTF and I are in a stand off.
For the sake of the hour, I will blink.
WTF, the fact is that more than 40% of Americans have ZERO federal tax burden. Mr Obama, saying that he will offer a $500 or a %1000 tax “break” is his way of saying that he will send those folks a check! This is not a tax “cut”. A tax “cut” is reducing the tax burden you already have. This is nothing more than taking money from those who have and giving it to those who have less.
Oh, and he will do that only once. After that, free for all.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
Pino,
WTF, the fact is that more than 40% of Americans have ZERO federal tax burden.
Sorry, couldn’t let that one go by.
You are forgetting FICA and Medicare
You no doubt also agree that ‘corporations’ don’t pay taxes, consumers do. Those 40% are buying stuff, aren’t they? So aren’t they paying those ‘corporate’ taxes?
Plus, where does that 40% number come from? I see it all the time on this blog, but have never seen it substantiated.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
actually it is 38% who pay taxes.
and this whole idea of redistribution of wealth, exactly what we are doing by this republican led president with wall street.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
I say it is 100% of people who have ever bought anything built or sold by an entity that pays federal taxes, have paid federal taxes.
So, pretty close to 100% of people pay federal taxes.
October 10th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
Hmm, the site is not posting again.
I’ll try one more time….
October 11th, 2008 at 12:00 am
exactly what we are doing by this republican led president with wall street.
Here we agree. I disagreed witht he stimulus package. I disagreed with the bailout. I disagree with McCain on buying the bad mortgages.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:00 am
You are forgetting FICA and Medicare
I’m not, but Obama doesn’t talk about that.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:01 am
Those 40% are buying stuff, aren’t they? So aren’t they paying those ‘corporate’ taxes?
Obama is not reducing that tax, he is increasing it. As he raises the corp tax, he is raising in cost tax for all of us.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:01 am
really, under both the mccain and obama tax plan, there would be more non tax payers. But it has also increased under the bush presidency as well, does this make him a socialist? this is part of having a regressive tax plan. some will always pay more.
Whats the solution to have more taxpayers contributing. Get them working with good decent jobs. There will always be the lazy bums. But as our unemployment rises, its not as if 500,000 became lazy overnight. Let’s find jobs that can’t be outsourced, force companies to do business here in the USA. Pay decent salaries to all workers, not just CEO’s…giving more tax revenue so everyone can pay their part.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:02 am
And now I am off to watch Rambo IV.
Night.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:02 am
Pino, obviously I was referring to your comment that 40% of people do not pay taxes (which is the basis of this socialism hoo ha argument), when clearly, they do.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:02 am
Now there is something we can agree on Pino
Rambo IV was excellent! I watched it last weekend.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:03 am
does this make him a socialist?
Sorry, just saw this.
No, what makes him a socialist is that he is taking money from those who have more of it and DIRECTLY GIVING it to those who have less of it.
This has nothing to do with getting more people to work. Or CEO salary. Or anything like that.
NOW, I am off to see Rocky VII
October 11th, 2008 at 12:04 am
“I disagree with McCain on buying the bad mortgages.”
I could possibly agree with it, if we were to buy the bad mortgages, but then tax these national lenders a higher tax bracket on future earnings (with regulations of course).
October 11th, 2008 at 12:05 am
Pino, obviously I was referring to your comment that 40% of people do not pay taxes (which is the basis of this socialism hoo ha argument), when clearly, they do.
I can not escape.
They do NOT pay FEDERAL INCOME TAX which is what Obama is claiming he will reduce.
Now serious, I am off to see, oh hell, I don’t know…..
October 11th, 2008 at 12:06 am
Rocky: “It appears that McCain’s campaign, perhaps witlessly, is designed to incite civil war.”
who against who? I mean its not the North vs the South is it? For those who dont know the Civil war in the 1800s sometime was kind of bout these people Union, in the north and Confederate in the south. Abe Lincoln went on television during the war to aks that very famous line: “cant we all just… get along?”
October 11th, 2008 at 12:06 am
“NOW, I am off to see Rocky VII”
hope you enjoy. although some of the movies are lame, I enjoyed the whore series. I thought the last was a decent ending.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:07 am
not sure if you are going to see this Pino, but thanks for having a civilized discussion. while we may disagree, I think THESE are the type of discussions we should have. we may not come to a total agreement, but hearing your point, I do think you want the best, just as I…we just need to find a way to compromise to find a solution for all of us.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:10 am
If you want a civilized disussion? then make rules of curtsey and etiquette, address the person to whom youre talking as: “the right honorable gentleman (or the appropriate feminine title)” and talk to each person as if they are clearly very highly respected, dignified, accomplished and highly regarded by society. Talk as if the other person is as dignified as Royalty and you may not know them well but treat them as if you are friends anyway. If the person represents a State or Territory then inlude that, for example say: “Would the gentle lady from California kindly shut her gob?”
October 11th, 2008 at 12:21 am
WTF,
Get off your computer! Over 8 hours of posts!
WOW.
Catch your breath.
October 11th, 2008 at 2:12 am
“WTF,
Get off your computer! Over 8 hours of posts!
WOW.
Catch your breath.”
hey I run my own business. I set my own hours. sorry if it worries you what I do with my own time. Oh well.
October 11th, 2008 at 2:17 am
WTF,
Your ideas are golden. “Let’s find jobs that can’t be outsourced”. Like what, building roads, washing street signs? Anywhere something can be made or service provided a lower price, that is where smart business will go.
“Force companies to do business here”. How, by raising their taxes? Which will always be paid, in the end, by the consumers!
“Pay decent salaries to all workers”. Again, do you think cars will be built in this country much longer if 2/3 the cost of the car is the medical coverage for the employees of the company? Or made in China, for $600 labor costs? You can’t make business raise peoples pay unless they bring value to a business. The only way for people to earn more, is to be more valuable than others. If you have been handing burgers over the counter at McDonalds for 5 years, you are no more valuable than the person handing burgers over the counter that started an hour ago, so don’t expect to be paid more.
October 11th, 2008 at 2:26 am
WTF,
It is good that you have your own business. If you were posting to websites all day on someone elses dime you wouldn’t last long. I can’t believe you WASTE the time you have, why not produce something for yourself? I wish you success!
October 11th, 2008 at 2:30 am
The Right Honorable Bradley: I REFUSE to curtsey but I will bow. Men bow and women curtsey.
October 11th, 2008 at 3:22 am
The McCain campagn’s descent into the dark side has yielded results, although not the results they anticipated:
1) The negatives on McCain and Palin have increased since the descent began.
2) The conservative Republicans with credentials deeming them worthy of judging campaign effectiveness seem to all agree that the move has been a desparate attempt to shift the campain focus that has failed.
3) Fringe rally attendees have increased in number and responsible potential attendees are staying away.
4)Independents are not shifting from Obama and are, indeed, shifting away from the republican ticket.
5)Obama’s positives are increasing (it’s the old underdog concept…he is taking the hits and turning them to his advantage).
6)The overall poll ratings are moving towards Obama while the republican ticket can’t break 42 (in most polls).
7) The press is spending much time on the descent, but not in the research, or addressing the nature of the attacks…they are simply addressing the fact that the attacks are happening.
Well, the descent into the dark side is working, but not for you. You even tried to stop in, Friday, and you were met by boo’s. The old saying that a man who troubles his own house inherits the wind seems right. You are going to reap what you have sewn.
October 11th, 2008 at 9:25 am
Did any one see Obama on TV he told all that his muslin faith and Odinga will stand as one.
October 11th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Christians will soon know us MUSLIN in a way they will cry out for the end. Obama will see too it.
October 11th, 2008 at 11:59 am
“Did any one see Obama on TV he told all that his muslin faith and Odinga will stand as one.
Posted by Pink”
“Christians will soon know us MUSLIN in a way they will cry out for the end. Obama will see too it.
Posted by Joe”
It’s an old saying that you shouldn’t take acid before watching tv. Pink and Joe should also not drink in the morining….it kills whatever braincells you have left…as evidenced by your inability to decern reality from cartoon diatribes of insane hatemongers.
October 11th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
The only supporters that McCain has left are the wing-nuts. True conservatives never liked this man to begin with and the people who attend their rallies are not excited about McCain, they just have fear and loathing for Barack Obama, which has been propagated by the McCain campaign. Just yesterday at a McCain rally he had to explain to the crowd there that Obama is a “decent family man”. I think McCain is beginning to realize that the negative attacks are not working and all of their fear hate mongering is out of control, and could have unintended consequences.
October 11th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
This woman who is a McCain volunteer has started a letter writing campaign calling Barack Obama an Arab, and believes that we will become a Muslim country if he is elected. This is sad and McCain realizes it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpE6ljPjSAk
October 11th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Christians will soon know us MUSLIN in a way they will cry out for the end. Obama will see too it.
Posted by Joe
____________
MUSLIN? Isn’t that a fiber? Well golly gosh gee, I think it is.
dictionary.com
mus·lin /ˈmʌzlɪn/ Pronunciation[muhz-lin]
–noun a cotton fabric made in various degrees of fineness and often printed, woven, or embroidered in patterns, esp. a cotton fabric of plain weave, used for sheets and for a variety of other purposes.
Cotton is a very breathable and durable fiber so I’m all for more Muslin in my country. Make sure your sheets are 100% Muslin and look for a thread count of at least 250.
October 11th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Fox news laughed when Mccain called obama “the Messiah”(Mosses) in his ads. Now, Foxy news get indignant when Farrakhan calls Obama “the Messiah”.
October 11th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
“Rocky: “It appears that McCain’s campaign, perhaps witlessly, is designed to incite civil war.””
who against who? I mean its not the North vs the South is it?
Look up an old episode of the Twilight Zone entitled, “The Monsters are Due on Maple Street.”
October 11th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Christians will soon know us MUSLIN in a way they will cry out for the end. Obama will see too it.
Posted by Joe
So let me get this straight. Barack Obama will turn our nation into a… nation of fabric weavers? Or a nation of mill outlets?
October 11th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
You guys can scoff at the danger that fabric weavers pose, but have none of you seen Wanted?
I, for one, will not support a candidate that is a member of a secret society of weaver assassins. I just love my country too much, I guess.
October 11th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Have none of you have seen Wanted?
I can not support a candidate who is clearly a member of a secret society of weaver assassins.
I just love my country too much, I guess.
October 11th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
This Blog Hates It’s Posters.
Let’s try this post with additional text added. This is additional text just to see if I can actually get my post through or not. Her follows the real message:
Clearly, none of you have seen Wanted?
I can not support a candidate who is clearly a member of a secret society of weaver assassins.
I just love my country too much, I guess.
October 11th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
First of all, there is nothing wrong with examing Obama’s political relationships. People are trying to find out more about him and his with work with Ayers. No one is calling Obama a terrorist. If he chooses to associate (his campaign started in Ayers living room) with people known to commit terrorist acts, people may think that is part of his ideology. That doesn’t mean that the investigation into this is the reason for the bigotry. The country is full of bigots in many forms.
Racism, sexism, anger and violence are of course terrible, but it is happening on both sides.
Remember Sandra Bernhardt saying if Palin came to NY she would have her big black brothers gang rape her?
And have you seen the disgusting pics that people have put out about Palin because she is a woman?
We also have heard ad nauseum George Bush being compared to Hitler and more.
It’s all disgusting.
October 11th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
I checked the MUSLIN in our house and none of it is contemplating the overthrow of the government.
October 12th, 2008 at 1:20 am
I have also thoroughly interrogated the MUSLIN in my house as well, I would not allow this COTTON menace to strip away the very FABRIC of our society. Although I did find some very suspicious gauze in the first aid kit, I’m keeping my eye on it.
October 12th, 2008 at 2:54 am
I have also thoroughly interrogated the MUSLIN in my house as well. I would not want this COTTON menace to eat away at the very FABRIC of our society. Although I did find some suspicious GAUZE in the first aid kit, it’s on my terror watch list.
October 12th, 2008 at 3:00 am
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October 12th, 2008 at 3:51 am