The New York Post, an endorser of the McCain ticket, has the story “Pit Bull Turns On Maverick“. According to the article, she is distancing herself from McCain and disregarding the advice of senior Republican staff. And she’s contradicting McCain on key issues.
Of course what’s really happening here is that no one wants to take responsibility for a losing campaign. And the post-November 4 positioning has already begun.
To be honest, this lady has some liberal views by agreeing with OBAMA on some issues. She would do herself alot of service by becoming a blue dog democrat.
Yup. palin is off message and being a maverick.
Unlike biden, he’s on message.
Everyone should be stocking up on supplies for whatever it is that biden was warning us about.
When mcsame has a press conference to refute what palin says like obama was forced to do with biden, we can talk about being a maverick.
“According to the article, she is distancing herself from McCain and disregarding the advice of senior Republican staff.”
She’s been on the national stage for two months and already she’s ready to tell everybody how everything should be done.
Talk about a “messiah-complex”.
“Sean Hannity has done a diservice to the Mccain’s camp.He urged Sarah to sput out all the venom that he himself has been sputting for over a year.He will be thrown into the junkyard after the election”
Probably the opposite – if you recall Rush Limbaugh – although he had been around before Clinton took office -really came into prominence as the “voice of opposition” during the Clinton years and Hannity will no doubt set himself up to play this role – ie the whining underdog. Jeez if you think he is insufferable now just wait…..
I’m a hack, not a moron!
Funny that you thought I was a teacher, because I do plan to teach someday.
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Palin said:
That doesn’t sound too consistent with her ‘Federalist’ view. I wonder what other things she would like to implement on a federal level because she does not support it?
Does she want to implement the teaching of creationism, because she does not believe in dinosaurs?
Is she lying when she says she thinks abortion should be a state level decision? Does she want it outlawed nationally?
Does she want to outlaw witchcraft?
Who knows what kooky schemes she has in mind, let’s hope she is a footnote in history, and not a viable candidate in 2012. More than any other reason, she is why I am such a strong Obama supporter. I was O.K. either way (though leaning towards Obama) prior to McCain selecting this wacko as a running mate.
October 26th, 2008 at 11:38 am
This is more than positioning for a post Nov 4th loss. In my opinion, this is a strategic way for the McCain/Palin ticket to bring up the dirty issues that McCain doesn’t want to personally discuss. By using Palin to do it, they can still reach out to the base of Conservative nuts that are obsessed about Barack’s middle name, his multi-cultural youth, his Muslim father, his blackness, his membership in Trinity United Methodist Church, Bill Ayers, etc. They’re reaching out to the obsession of those people with those issues, without discussing the realities of them.
October 26th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
This is all a bunch of malarky. More Hard Leftist propaganda to fuel their
Obama to the top.
The thing about overconfidence is that it leads to failure a lot of the time.
Sad but true.
October 26th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
All I have to say about this infighting,
mwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaahhahaahaha
October 26th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Regarding William Ayers…
First I’m going to address the Woods Foundation.
That is an 8 member board- I repeat EIGHT member board- of distinguished community servants. Obama’s supposedly nefarious connection to Ayers through his service on this board means that we should also accuse the other 6 members, and the 7 current members, of the same horrible judgement. We should demand that they remove themselves from their positions as college professors and social activists speaking out on poverty, domestic abuse, and education.
Next, Willaim Ayers himself, the unrepentant terrorist.
It seems that Hannity, Limbaugh, Malkin, et al have chosen to ignore the impact of the Vietnam War and Watergate and the Pentagon Papers on the American psyche. There are also too many voters this time around who are not aware of or have forgotten those scandals. It’s up to everyone to educate themselves, but for those who need to do so I suggest-
1. Researching the origins of our involvement, and the purpose of the war.
2. Locating the exact number of American soldiers, Vietnamese civilians, and Vietnamese soldiers dead. Then reconcile that with our involvement in the war.
3. Consider the timeline of the war, including the fact that America was still in the midst of the Civil Rights Movement. Don’t forget about those protests, civilian casualties, and hate crime victims.
4. Read about the Pentagon Papers.
5. Review Watergate.
6. Read about other acts of social protest. Google “vietnam protests” or “vietnam anti-war effort”.
If after all this, you still don’t understand why Americans didn’t trust their government, and some felt the need for revolutionary action (true, justified action in the spirit of our Founding Fathers and Mothers) then you’re not being honest. You don’t have to agree with Ayer’s actions, but you have to understand them… and by the way, have any of you actually researched The Weather Underground???
October 26th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Kimmy, McCain is going to lose, and the GOP will be leaderless.
mwhahahahahaha etc.
October 26th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Funny, all the attacks they throw at Obama and NOTHING works. Keep trying idiots. Nothing is working…
October 26th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/23/AR2008102302081.html?nav=rss_print/outlook
October 26th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Fury, I checked out the story you linked to.
October 26th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
At the end of the article dude says,
“There’s a lot of poll evidence that voters prefer divided government. By some estimates, perhaps as many as 8 percent of voters consciously cast strategic votes in favor of division.”
What’s interesting about that is you prob remember that I’m a late Obama supporter. I’ve only recently decided to come on board with him, and I was thinking of balancing my vote for Obama/Biden with a republican vote in the local elections here in VA.
October 26th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
That was an interesting article, and I too am someone who generally prefers a divided government, it keeps them from getting much done very quickly. Going slow is usually a good idea.
It was also interesting to hear her view of the Palin influence, as I’ve mentioned in a few posts today – Palin my biggest negative against McCain, and the lack of Palin on Obama’s ticket is probably my biggest positive for him.
Looks like I’m not alone.
Good article find, Fury
October 26th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
“There’s a lot of poll evidence that voters prefer divided government. By some estimates, perhaps as many as 8 percent of voters consciously cast strategic votes in favor of division.”
That’s called Concern Trolling: Republicans have been obstructionists that have created the financial crisis, the quicksand in Iraq, and so on and so forth.
Want more of the same, but on the local level, by all means vote Republican “as balance” — and keep in mind that all the crazy crazies in charge for the last 8 years, started on the local level.
The supposed “inaction” of Congress of the last two years was due to the slim “margin” — in other words, Lieberman voting like a Republican to block whatever they could.
Anything Barack and Democratic Congress try to do to help the country would be blocked by sulking Republicans with filibuster power in Congress, just ’cause they’re mad they’re out of power.
Want gridlock during the most devastating economic crisis since the Depression? By all means, vote for a “balance” of Republicans.
Not until Republicans turn back from the crazy agenda of the last 20 odd years, to TRUE conservatism, will it again be safe to vote Republican.
I miss Republican moderates: it’s too bad the rest of the Republican Party hunted them to extinction.
October 26th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
I prefer bi-partisan government because when governing a divided group of people (divided as in our different ideologies) having two groups forced to work together helps ensure comprimise.
Hopefully. It can also cause gridlock, but the public is frustrated with that so I believe that we have forced bi-partisan cooperation. Think about how often Biden and especially McCain have spoken about “reaching across the aisle”.
October 26th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
I’d welcome true bipartisanship, as well.
However, the modern Republican Party talks bipartisanship while blocking any actual working together or compromise, while burning down the house.
If, and when, Republicans return to true conservatism, they somehow resurrect their moderates, and show in the next Congress the true spirit of bipartisanship, they’re not to be trusted with power.
At least, not with our government.
October 26th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
That’s what I’m saying, Judy. In general I do indeed prefer inaction by congress. I don’t want them to be able to ram one parties agenda down the throat of America. I want a s l o w government, where it is difficult for them to get things done, and they actually have to work with the other party.
October 26th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Both parties are big babies, they both talk about bipartisanship and neither do it. It’s a pipedream, but I really wish the U.S. had more than two parties with real participation.
October 26th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Cara, I don’t know that I want “slow” government. I want caution, but not so slow that we don’t get things done when they need to be. You feel me?
Bipartisanship- which I’d really prefer to be “tri-partisanship”, but we’re stuck with two parties for now- is GOOD. Federalist Paper #10, written by James Madison, deals with this.
October 26th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Judy~ I had to search online for a definition of ‘concern troll’. Interesting. I’d also call it ‘pandering’.
October 26th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Cheryl,
When I say slow, I am comparing it to my experiences in Brazil. The Mayor of Sao Paulo decided that he didn’t want billboards. So he said, no more billboards in Sao Paulo. A month later, they were all down (remember, this is a city considerably bigger than NYC).
The same mayor decided he did not want trucks making deliveries in the city from 7am-7pm. A few weeks later that was the new law. Now I get to listen to construction trucks make deliveries at 10pm.
But yea, I want it to move fast enough to get things done, for sure. And mostly I want them to have to work together. Bipartisanship is probably a better word than slow, I agree.
October 26th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Well, I think that instead of ’slow’ you could use ‘cautious and well-thought’.
What do you teach down there, anyway? And why are you there, again?
October 26th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
More parties would be good… I can’t remember which European country has this problem, but I know that there’s one with so many different parties that their diversity actually causes the grid lock.
However, I like that what they do is that they assign seats to the percentage of party members who have gotten the vote. In other words, if the vote went 5% to party A, 20% to B, 12% to C, etc then 5 members of A are elected, 20 members of B, and so forth.
October 26th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
I have never thought of myself as a Liberal Democrat.
I just hate Republicans and Conservatives, so what choice do I have?
I think the country has seen what happens when Republicans have control of everything. I used to think the Democrats wren’t that great either, but now I’m looking forward to a Marxist form of government that redistributes the wealth and makes this a socialist country.
;)
Isn’t that why I’m voting for Obama? Gosh, I hope a whacko con corrects my ways…
October 26th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Joe the Plumber ~ Hockey Mom ~ you betcha ~ golly ~ doggone it ~ reform ~ MAVERICK!
October 26th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Cheryl,
I’m not a teacher, I’m a corporate hack.
Adventure, and filthy lucre!
October 26th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
“I think Senator Obama made it very clear where he stands on the issue of abortion,” said Dean. “This is a personal decision that the government does not have the right to make but,
If an alive baby outside the womb is still a “personal decision”, then that should give me the right to eliminate anyone I so personally chose at any stage of life, since they have become an inconvenience?
Congressmen like these are an inconvenience.
October 26th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Sean Hannity has done a diservice to the Mccain’s camp.He urged Sarah to sput out all the venom that he himself has been sputting for over a year.He will be thrown into the junkyard after the election.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
The GOP will turn to a thoughtful , intelectual person after the election,NOT Sarah (the hockey mom).
October 26th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Oh. Well, the thought of you as a teacher was much more appealing. But you’re just another corporate moron that I read about in Dilbert.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
j/k, btw
October 26th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
No more morons for GOP leaders ,please!
October 26th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
First of all, I am originally from the greater Seattle area and no one in my family nor anyone I’ve ever known has EVER been polled. My husband is from the Los Angeles area and no one he knows has ever been polled, either. The polls are a tiny percentage of the greater voting public.
Second, Palin has ALWAYS been more conservative than McCain. Before Palin was chosen as running mate, conservatives were concerned about McCain because he just wasn’t conservative enough. After the announcement that Palin was the running mate, the conservatives were a lot happier. I suspect that Palin’s views on gay marriage have always been exactly what they are today. I also suspect this is why she appears to be “contradicting” McCain.
October 26th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
I’m a hack, not a moron!
Funny that you thought I was a teacher, because I do plan to teach someday.
But first, more lucre!
October 26th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
“Sean Hannity has done a diservice to the Mccain’s camp.He urged Sarah to sput out all the venom that he himself has been sputting for over a year.He will be thrown into the junkyard after the election”
Probably the opposite – if you recall Rush Limbaugh – although he had been around before Clinton took office -really came into prominence as the “voice of opposition” during the Clinton years and Hannity will no doubt set himself up to play this role – ie the whining underdog. Jeez if you think he is insufferable now just wait…..
October 26th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
“According to the article, she is distancing herself from McCain and disregarding the advice of senior Republican staff.”
She’s been on the national stage for two months and already she’s ready to tell everybody how everything should be done.
Talk about a “messiah-complex”.
October 27th, 2008 at 1:54 am
Yup. palin is off message and being a maverick.
Unlike biden, he’s on message.
Everyone should be stocking up on supplies for whatever it is that biden was warning us about.
When mcsame has a press conference to refute what palin says like obama was forced to do with biden, we can talk about being a maverick.
October 27th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
To be honest, this lady has some liberal views by agreeing with OBAMA on some issues. She would do herself alot of service by becoming a blue dog democrat.
October 27th, 2008 at 6:49 pm