• Former presidential candidate Ralph Nader tells Alan why he believes the Big Three automakers have nobody but themselves to blame for their woes.
• Tom Sullivan of Fox Business explains what today’s stock market plunge means for your bank account.
• Christian activist James Hartline says California’s wildfires are a punishment from God! He’ll defend his controversial claim.
Where does everyone think the moral standards for most of the laws this country was founded on come from? The BIBLE.
There’s lots of these, but i’ll just drop this one….
http://www.albertmohler.com/commentary_read.php?cdate=2004-08-05
Here’s the link.
That chapter of Romans is the amplified translation. I added NOTHING to it, or altered it in any way. It’s straight out of the book, just in case anyone thought the text within the parentheses was mine. It would appear that the bible does condemn homosexuality after all.
I guess it’s all how you interpret it.
Here’s whats on the horizon. The elimination of religious free speech.
“Against the Current: The Cost Of Speaking Out For Orientation Change In Canada”
It’s next on the agenda, watch and see.
We can agree to disagree. I’m not changing my beliefs. You don’t have to change yours.
Good night.
So who is Hartline a punishment from?
November 20th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
For me, his crackpot theory is worse, since Cali. wildfires don’t affect me. Perhaps Satan brought us Hartline. Should I kneel before the Devil?
November 20th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
One year ago, the DJIA was tickling 14,000 and Neil Cavuto was on FOX telling us it was proof of the incredible wisdom of Republican/FOX policies. If Joe the plumber will just continue supporting FOX/BushCo and sending those checks to Wall Street, the Cons will make us all RICH!! Tax cuts for the wealthy because, don’t you want to be rich someday?
CNBC’s Larry Kudlow was echoing all that. The Bush Boom was “the greatest story never told” by the evil MSM. Any slowdown would be a “Goldilocks” movement. Not too hard, not too soft. Government isn’t the solution, it’s the problem!!
Sure, your job went overseas and you’re now working at Walmart but it was only to make us more competive and stronger in the end. Your pension became a 401k but that only meant you could also send it to Wall Street and get even richer.
Most of my buy-n-hold blue chip investments are penny stocks now. A nice 60% haircut in 6 months.
We’re at war. We’re either under attack from outside our borders or by domestic enemies.
Cavuto and Kudlow are now hiding their money in the safety of US Treasury notes while they’re still telling the lemmings to invest because this is capitulation. Capitulation, and this time they really, really, really mean it. Send more checks to Wall Street. Don’t you want to be rich?
November 20th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Alan – why on earth do you continue to give this racist egomaniac a platform. Nader is a loathsome bigot and was soundly thrashed in the election – forget this loser.
November 20th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Finally!!! Alan admitted he’s gay tonight and called all Republicans and conservatives dumber than liberals. I knew it!!!!! He admitted what real Americans know all along! That all of them think they are smarter than us!! Those elitists think they know everything! Also, they all want drugs legal! A question for you guys also…why is it that most married couples or single people without children are almost always liberal? Think about it…
P.S.: Alan is gay.
November 20th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
So Frank thinks Alan is gay because he thinks republicans are dumb. By that logic, 75% of the population is gay.
Why didn’t someone tell me I was gay??? I didn’t even know it! Thank you Frank for confirming that for me.
November 20th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Honestly, if I wasn’t such a narcissist, I’d be totally gay for either of you instead of just myself.
November 20th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
From The Gallup Poll
November 20, 2008
GOP Takes Another Image Hit Post-Election
Republicans favor tacking right; independents offer mixed guidance
PRINCETON, NJ — The Republican Party’s image has gone from bad to worse over the past month, as only 34% of Americans in a Nov. 13-16 Gallup Poll say they have a favorable view of the party, down from 40% in mid-October. The 61% now holding an unfavorable view of the GOP is the highest Gallup has recorded for that party since the measure was established in 1992.
By contrast, the public’s views of the Democratic Party remain as positive after the election as they were just prior to it. More than half of Americans, 55%, currently hold a favorable view of the Democratic Party and only 39% an unfavorable view, highly typical of views toward the Democrats all year.
The Republican Party is notably less well reviewed by members of its own party than the Democratic Party is by its own: 78% of Republicans have a favorable view of the GOP, versus 91% of Democrats viewing their own party favorably. Fewer political independents rate the Republican Party (32%) than rate the Democratic Party (47%) favorably.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/112015/GOP-Takes-Another-Image-Hit-PostElection.aspx
November 20th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Alan,
The wildfires are also punishment for people with down syndrome, mentally retarded, people born without limbs, people born blind and deaf, also Siamese twins, morphodites, transvestites and pimps.
“California’s wildfires are a punishment from God!”
2000 YEAR OLD SELF-RIGHTEOUS IGNORANCE!
November 20th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Morphodites?
November 20th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
On a second thought, the wildfires are punishment for Ted Haggard getting caught with his male lover Mike Jones.
November 20th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Alan what congress should tell the big 3, How much did you pay yourselfs in bonuses, and your Board of Directors over the last five years? Then tell them to give back all the money back and not to take a salary until they can show a profit and payback the money the tax payer’s gave them. Lee did back in the 80’s
November 20th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
For all who mock, and proclaim they’re own goodness look around now and pick up stones.
Let him or her without sin be the first one to throw the stone.
Because by whatever standard you judge others you yourself are judged.
The fact that you call someone a bigot, or a freak, reveals the prejudice in your own hearts.
You’re biggest grievance against you’re Creator, is that He gave you free will and you choose to practice wickedness and deceit, knowing the error of your ways.
How can God hold you accountable?
Because you exercise free will and make your own choices. He doesn’t choose for you, you choose for yourselves.
He allows you to separate yourself from Him.
Choose.
November 21st, 2008 at 12:21 am
I’ve been quoted!!
November 21st, 2008 at 12:36 am
Maybe that’s why I defend gay people’s right to the same standard of living as straight people. I’m totally gay!
Man, I need to learn how to dress better and decorate my apartment. That’s what I’m supposed to do now right?
Oh, and how do I explain the three kids and wife to my new boyfriend? Who will I pick to be my new boyfriend?
November 21st, 2008 at 2:06 am
I CHOOSE YOU!
Tee hee.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:07 am
Hey, Jimmy, i found a clip of Obama that you might be interested in. It’s of him preparing to debate McCain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0D1w2mjqzk
c-ya L8er
November 21st, 2008 at 2:54 am
How can the wildfires be a punishment from god? I thought god didn’t cause bad things, satan does? and why would he set fires to homes in LA? shouldn’t he have moved north to San Francisco?
November 21st, 2008 at 3:19 am
“Logic? Reason? A Christian craves not these things.”
/yoda
November 21st, 2008 at 3:32 am
Ok, he’s saying all of California is being warned by god. Why California? It’s Conn., Mass. and N.J. that’s passed the gay rights law so they can be married there. Are those states not being lawless too?
November 21st, 2008 at 3:49 am
God didn’t set the wildfires faith, He allows them.
Arsonists are usually to blame for the wildfires in my state.
God gives men free will and doesn’t usually intervene.
If you defy God’s laws you will suffer the consequences, I would never test God by jumping off a building in an attempt to defy His law of gravity.
Yet men break God’s laws every day.
Some of them die immediately, others die later, but all of them die.
Alan’s guest was interesting, but Alan and the callers kept redirecting the conversation to try and frame a particular viewpoint.
They weren’t truly interested in learning they were more interested in objecting.
I strongly disagree with the guest making absolute claims as to knowing exactly what God is doing in California, but clearly when we view the world and the current events taking place in it God is definitely allowing humans to rebel against him and we see the fruit of this rebellion growing on the tree every day.
We shall reap as we have sown.
Jimmy right now is furiously trying to promote his propaganda, makes you wonder about his motivations.
I’ll have more to say about this later, it’s way past my bedtime right now.
I hope all is well with you and your family faith, trees
November 21st, 2008 at 3:58 am
To be fair, Jersey is already kinda like hell. It’s like ‘Deliverance’ in the south and Mexico City in the north.
Wait, let me get this straight. I make a geeky joke about this guys illogical Holy blame game, and I’m putting out propaganda?
Not the guy that’s using his ‘cured’ homosexuality, and gay hate to get converts?
Just checking.
>¿<
November 21st, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Jim from Jersey:
I KNEW you were gay – advocating all that commie crap like peace, love, equal rights, upholding the constitution, etc.
Everyone knows that anybody who doesn’t like the Bush/Cheney regime and what they stand for is not only a commie pinko, but is also gay (and responsible for all the disasters in the world).
November 21st, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Da.
You got me tovarisch.
Heaven forbid I agree on my country’s founding principles of freedom and liberty.
I must be un-American, trying to stand up for American ideals.
I forgot that we were supposed to be a Theocracy.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Hmmmm…….interesting Jim. What is it that makes it hellish?
Jim, you say belief in God is illogical and yet you insist on being agnostic.
Who’s being illogical?
You pump out anti God information, disagreeing with anyone’s religious views, attempt to minimize and cloud history, claim it’s impossible for anyone to know if God exists and yet claim agnosticism.
Based on what?
You’re dislike of God.
We shouldn’t attempt to base our belief on truth?
No one is accountable, I see.
No one should be punished, no punishment for Manson or other murderers, no punishment for rapists, no punishment.
Punishment makes God unfair.
Why not just proudly declare atheism?
Oh, the appearance of being open minded.
I see.
Are all of us blameless?
Should anyone ever be blamed for anything?
You don’t like God’s Holy standard, I understand, it’s why you refuse to ascribe it to Him and allow Him the credit.
You belittle this man for sharing his religious views. Is he a phony Jim?
That’s dishonest. He never said he hated gays.
You make the argument that people are born gay, and yet when someone provides evidence contrary to your view, you dismiss it. You’re very dismissive of evidences that don’t fit you’re presuppositions.
His own testimony was that he was abused and molested at age six by a homosexual pedophile.
Molestation and single parent households are two prime factors responsible for creating homosexual tendencies. Sexual molestation because it creates sexual awareness and excitement, and single parent because of the lack of both male and female roles during the development of our children, causes sexual identity problems.
Single moms with abusive boyfriends create a whole other set of issues.
This might help explain the hellish nature of New Jersey.
Unwed mothers are pandemic.
Ignorance is not bliss.
Gay marriage is about indoctrination and growing their community. It’s about mainstreaming their lifestyle and creating an atmosphere to promote gay conversion.
Sharing his faith is insidious is it?
He’s all about getting converts?
What does he stand to gain?
November 21st, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Hi, Jimmy, I hope youre having a good day. I’ll check back later, I have stuff to do.
Sincerely, your friend, trees
November 21st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Jim, you never answered my question.
Do you believe two brothers should be allowed to get married? please share your thoughts.
Before you claim the premise ridiculous, remember 20 years ago the idea of gay marriage was also deemed ridiculous.
I’ll check back for you’re answer later.
November 21st, 2008 at 4:33 pm
I see, now you want to attack me and bring me back into a fight with you, so you misrepresent my views. I do not believe organized religion is correct – I believe organized religion is responsible for the evils in this world. Any other information I provided was in direct response to your attacks and I maintain the position of live and let live. I do not attempt to prevent anyone from being whatever religion they wish to choose, though you seem hell bent on making sure everyone knows being agnostic or athiest is Wrong.
Trees, that’s your view and that’s fine, but you aren’t changing my mind, and your childish attempts to provoke me into senseless debates just so you can piecemeal portions of my comments in order to further drag my opinions through the morass because they threaten your faith will henceforth be ignored.
No more burning of strawmen.
Final points. Most gay people are born gay. Most have measurable physiological differences from straight people. Some people turn to homosexuality as a crutch due to trauma, and this guy may be one of them, but that doesn’t change how some people are born it just means that sometimes there are two ways to get to a certain result (wow, what a shock huh?)
I came from a single parent home as have many of my friends. We aren’t sleeping with each other. Show one iota of evidence for this ‘causing’ homosexuality?
For you it seems to be.
Paranoid delusions of a religious nutjob. Their RIGHT to marry is motivated by a wish to show their love for one another. Their lifestyle is their own and nothing is wrong with it.
Converts and a higher voting block. More people to share his views to push his small minded agenda and tyrannize the minority populace.
And this…
November 21st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
I take that as an insult. You do not know me and my life, and taking a light-hearted joke and turning it into an attack on my family is disgusting and foul and sub-human. Please note that I chose my final words to you with care and deliberation and that I will indeed not respond to you ever again. I love my wife (in my eyes she is my wife, and we’ve been together longer than 40% of those Christians who get married) I love my children, and your insinuations that I may be abusive are ignorant and obnoxious in the extreme. My final words to you (ever):
Fuck You.
November 21st, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Apologies to the blog moderators for the above post. I allowed myself to be trolled good. Please remove last two words.
November 21st, 2008 at 5:10 pm
What???
Jim if I was talking about you I would have specifically mentioned you by name. I think you know that.
Way to jump to conclusions.
Allow me to please apologize, I was in NO WAY referring to you. The context was societal ill’s, and modern problems of American families. But because you’re not married I’m not allowed to point out the problems of SINGLE PARENT HOUSEHOLD’s and abusive relationships, in regards to society??
You are mistaken Jim, I was not identifying you.
This is a big part of the problem we face today, real consequences for actions, and an inability to identify and address these problems without being accused of some form of bigoted hatred.
Jimmy, I am sincerely sorry if you misunderstood my comments and felt them directed at your family.
Sincerely, trees
November 21st, 2008 at 5:30 pm
“Single moms with abusive boyfriends create a whole other set of issues” “This might help explain the hellish nature of New Jersey” Trees- I’m afraid you did say this, and by adding NJ, possibley, inadvertently directed this at Jim. But by saying this statement you are also judging and with a broad brush. I know many single mothers and their children are well behaved, socially and mentally. On the other hand I know of even more children who have a “perfect” home with both parents and I wouldn’t want them coming near my children.
November 21st, 2008 at 5:40 pm
I think it’s due to learning responsibility. Children in single parent homes have to grow up fast. There’s things to do around the house and things to take care of and so on. As far as I can tell, all of my friends from single parent homes are extremely well adjusted, exceedingly polite and nice to others, and perform well under stress.
November 21st, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Jim- You’re right. Responsibilities in a single family home are enormous. It takes away the time for children to be children. Having to do “grown-up” things sometimes takes precedence over being able to play and just being a kid. To have emerged from such a situation and come out unscathed is commendable. It bears witness to the character of a mother who can help her children overcome the emptiness left by having no father figure around and rely on her capabilities as a parent to teach her children and help them grow as individuals and be constructive in society and not let the parent-less side be an obstacle.
Not all single mothers have abusive boyfriends. I hear/see in the news of many two-parent homes whose children have been molested, beat, killed. There are just some people whether married or not that don’t deserve to have children.
And it’s a sad shame that some people are more interested in what they think is moral and gods’ word and would rather let children sit in foster care or orphanges than let a loving gay couple adopt and give them a home they deserve.
November 21st, 2008 at 6:24 pm
November 21st, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Quoted for Truth Faith. It’s an absolute shame that they lose that potential love and affection and are forced into being secondhand citizens, along with those innocent couples that are persecuted for their attractions.
November 21st, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Trees- you can’t honestly believe gay people want to convert everyone to their lifestyle! The only agenda gays have is to be treated with respect and have the same civil liberties as everyone else.
November 21st, 2008 at 6:33 pm
“Surely you wouldn’t make the argument… (I sure wish I knew how to put others’ remarks in here)
You cannot define all single-parent homes the same as you cannot define all two- parent homes the same. Granted there are some single-parent homes who have shown they’re certainly was the need for another parental figure. On the other hand there are two-parent homes that either parent would have been better parenting alone. Each family is separate and individual. I don’t care what evidence has shown, until they can report on every possible family in the world there conclusions are inconclusive.
“Christian thought is being seen as the enemy…” –It’s only the enemy when you try to interject your ideals into the law. Christianity is not being supressed YOU can practice christianity all you want-you can’t impose it on others-not everyone believes as you do. Christians can’t even agree with each other about what’s moral. By not following all the laws of the bible christians are using their own standards to decide what is ethical. They pick and choose their morality just like atheists.
1 Corinthians 10:23 All things are lawful for me,but all things are not expedient; All things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
November 21st, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Faith,
Respectfully, what is the purpose of bringing school children to a gay marriage field trip?
What is the purpose of teaching homosexuality in a classroom?
Indoctrination;
1. to instruct in a doctrine, principle, ideology, etc., esp. to imbue with a specific partisan or biased belief or point of view.
2. to teach or inculcate.
3. to imbue with learning.
Anyone who opposes this being done is painted as an intolerant bigot.
We are losing the ability to identify societal problems.
We are seeing an erosion of values.
People are stating that homosexuality is an inherited trait, that people are born that way.
I disagree; sexuality is established at an early age through sexual exploration. Kid’s playing doctor, and so forth, this role playing is the early beginnings of sexual orientation. The overwhelming majority of gays had this innocence disrupted by a sexual predator, their own testimony is evidence. The guest on Alan’s show was just this example.
Anytime pedophiles interfere complications result. This behavior does not produce well adjusted adults.
We are being overwhelmed by a massive campaign that has produced apathy and indifference within society. And it’s not just of a sexual inclination.
Look at the violence that’s emanating from our televisions.
An 8 year old shot to death two adults and is completely emotionally detached.
Adult schoolteachers are involved in sexual trysts with 13 year old kids. And what’s the average response? What a lucky kid. Are you kidding me?
People are walking around blind and indifferent.
I didn’t carefully review my correspondence with Jim; I in no way was trying to accuse him of being an abusive parent.
I was asking him why New Jersey is in his words hellish. I have made the mistake of considering Jim married due to the long relationship he’s had with his wife and the fact that they have children. I genuinely forgot he’s not married, I would never have sent that if I had been aware of the perceived implication.
Am I firm in stating my beliefs with him? Absolutely. Do I pass moral judgment on Him? How can I, I’m not the judge.
Do we acknowledge the concept of morality? I don’t know, it’s becoming increasingly difficult to have a moral standard, it’s in flux, the institution that once stood as solid is now being compromised.
What is truth?
November 21st, 2008 at 7:13 pm
Faith,
You are aware that the discussion in first Corinthians is about the topic of food, right?
Paul is instructing concerning the observance of Jewish dietary laws, not sexual morality.
I will give you a detailed commentary on this passage you quote if you like, it does not support homosexual behavior, I can assure you of that.
Check out the beginning of Romans, and see what Paul has to say concerning the topic of sexuality.
19What do I imply then? That food offered to idols is [intrinsically changed by the fact and amounts to] anything or that an idol itself is a [living] thing?
20No, I am suggesting that what the pagans sacrifice they offer [in effect] to demons (to evil spiritual powers) and not to God [at all]. I do not want you to fellowship and be partners with diabolical spirits [by eating at their feasts].(K)
21You cannot drink the Lord’s cup and the demons’ cup. You cannot partake of the Lord’s table and the demons’ table.
22Shall we thus provoke the Lord to jealousy and anger and indignation? Are we stronger than He [that we should defy Him]?(L)
23All things are legitimate [permissible--and we are free to do anything we please], but not all things are helpful (expedient, profitable, and wholesome). All things are legitimate, but not all things are constructive [to character] and edifying [to spiritual life].
24Let no one then seek his own good and advantage and profit, but [rather] each one of the other [let him seek the welfare of his neighbor].
25[As to meat offered to idols] eat anything that is sold in the meat market without raising any question or investigating on the grounds of conscientious scruples,
26For the [whole] earth is the Lord’s and everything that is in it.(M)
27In case one of the unbelievers invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is served to you without examining into its source because of conscientious scruples.
28But if someone tells you, This has been offered in sacrifice to an idol, do not eat it, out of consideration for the person who informed you, and for conscience’s sake–
29I mean for the sake of his conscience, not yours, [do not eat it]. For why should another man’s scruples apply to me and my liberty of action be determined by his conscience?
30If I partake [of my food] with thankfulness, why am I accused and spoken evil of because of that for which I give thanks?
31So then, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you may do, do all for the honor and glory of God.
32Do not let yourselves be [hindrances by giving] an offense to the Jews or to the Greeks or to the church of God [[e]do not lead others into sin by your mode of life];
November 21st, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Specifically Paul is saying that you are now allowed to eat any food, excluding foods offered to false gods, (idols), and that if you follow the Jewish dietary laws you will be healthier and that God gave us these laws for a reason, but not to let the dietary law be a instrument of division.
See the supporting paragraphs in the previous post, they provide the context. Anyone taking a single passage and building a theology on it is attempting to deceive. I don’t create the doctrine, I understand it. And just so you understand I am not accusing you of deliberately attempting to practice deceit.
In other words, if the gentiles are eating pork and it was not offered to idols in worship it is permissible to eat it with them. Do not make it an issue of contention in regards to Christ, for Christ came to serve as a sacrifice for the redemption of all men and what meat you eat is not the issue.
I eat pork myself sometimes, but I limit my consumption and prefer to eat beef instead. If I’m at someone’s house and they’ve prepared pork I do not refuse to eat with them, as this is an unconstructive exercise.
Do I hate homosexuals? No.
Do I approve of their practices? No.
Sexual behavior is a whole other level, and creative interpretations ultimately serve to undermine God’s word and in doing so, also His authority.
November 21st, 2008 at 7:56 pm
You know I wasn’t going to bring this up, because things tend to be taken personally when someone discusses their family, but I’m fine with whatever anyone has to say in regards to this.
I have three nieces. None of them are married. None of them are fortunate enough to have a boyfriend who gives fuzzy rats behind about them.
One of them, her name is Sarah, has a boyfriend that has spent the money I have given him to buy pampers, on beer instead. Incredible? Yeah, I think so too. That’s the problem with alcoholics; they make bad decisions, like operating vehicles while intoxicated. Yep he does that too.
Rachel has two kids, which she loves to death, and she’s a great mom if we overlook the fact that she’s really irresponsible. She has a sometimes boyfriend, Mike, that likes to spend the night with her on the weekends.
Jodi, she’s pregnant now. She smokes cigarettes, drinks, and smokes pot. I pray that her kid is born healthy. She lives with Rachel. She doesn’t have a boyfriend right now.
They don’t read this blog, and don’t even know that I blog, so I’m relatively certain they’ll never find out I posted this. If they ever did??
They call me a hypocrite. Why? Because I used to be a different person, they like who I used to be better because I didn’t make them aware of their situation, I was more fun. They refuse to acknowledge that I’ve changed.
You think you don’t like my Christian views, you should hear their objections.
They know one line out of that book, guess which one it is. It’s the one everyone likes to take out of context. Yep you guessed it, Jesus says not to judge.
What caused my conversion? That’s a good question. Mine was a long slow process, God got my attention, and I listened. Do I ever have doubts? Not anymore.
What’s my point?
That this used to be somewhat rare in this country, out of wedlock childbirth. What’s happened? Figure it out.
People can walk around and deny that there have been any significant changes within this country during the past thirty years if they want to. I’m sorry but I’m not one them.
Some people believe homosexual marriage will strengthen marriage. I’m not one of those either.
Jim, I’m going to apologize to you once more, I don’t know you personally and I wasn’t attacking you, I am genuinely saying this, Jimmy, I was thinking of my own experiences and asking you to consider what you see around you. You mentioned the hellishness of New Jersey, I was asking you to elaborate. Please except my apologies, trees
November 21st, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Oh, I almost forgot. My nieces, they believe in God. Yep, a God that does not judge. They think everyone goes to heaven, including Charlie Manson, and Jeffery Dahmer.
No, they’ll tell you those two don’t get to go, and that’s funny, because I thought the bible said not to judge? I guess we’ll all just have to find out for ourselves.
November 21st, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Bail out (Invest) in the American People!!!
If every person was given a million dollars of bail out money oh excuse me
(economic stimulus) what would the effects be?
Lets look at the numbers
According to the US. Census bureau on Nov. 18, 2008
There are
U.S. 305,686,501 US citizens
Nationally, 217.8 million people age 18 and over;
35.9 million people age 65 and over;
53.3 million children ages 5 to 17 as of July 1, 2003, U.S. Census Bureau.
Imagine if everyone was given 1 million dollars each that would only be
305,686,501 million dollars only a little more than 1/3 of a billion dollars. Just a fraction of what they are giving to corrupt companies!!!
If we took 1 billion dollars from the Auto bailout funds toward this relief project to the American people we could send everyone their million dollars and the other half of the billion could be used in mailing and the funds to the people.
Comments ideas email stimulusamerica@yahoo.com
November 21st, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Stimulus America, it’s already our money. What you are talking about really IS redistribution of wealth.
Not that I’d mind having a million dollars right now.
Could pay a few bills and get a car.
November 21st, 2008 at 10:04 pm
First off, a parent had the idea to have a field trip for the teacher of her childs’ class. Eighteen students went, two students opted out. They weren’t in the actual ceremony but were waiting outside with flowers and bubbles. The schools’ director thought this was a teachable moment as the California Eduction Code permits comprehensive sex ed as long as it teaches respect for marriage and committed relationsips. Same-sex marriage was legal at the time. There was no indoctrination going on. They were celebrating their teachers’ wedding, no more, no less. If your child had been in the class all you needed to do was decline. Nobody forced any of the children to go as they had to have parental permission. What all the hoopla is about is the fact you or no one else can cantrol what other people teach their children. You could learn a few things from children and try a little more understanding and a little less judgement. This is why children grow up and hate, their parents/peers don’t teach them understanding they teach fear and unacceptance of the unknown. You’re never too young or too old to accept the person beside you, in front of you, behind you on the street in the market wherever you might be. Your life, your beliefs are no more important than theirs and vice versa.
November 22nd, 2008 at 1:28 am
Let’s talk about teaching homosexuality in schools. They’re speaking of middle and high schools. Teaching tolerance and diversity and discussing what homosexuality is about, without discussing if it is wrong or acceptable is allowing all students the ability to understand for themselves. After all many students start at a young age, you said so yourself, “playing doctor and so forth, roleplaying..” How does not discussing these things (especially when homosexuality is on the street, on tv, possibly in the home) promote good sexual health and understanding? To not acknowledge it exists is one, to be in denial and two, ignorant.
November 22nd, 2008 at 1:47 am
Let’s speak of Corinthians, first I was not trying to say this verse was refering to homosexuality. I don’t need to decieve directly or indirectly. I was speaking of morality in general. The implications of this verse as a moral compass and what is and what isn’t permissable. Funny how you think you understand what you’re reading, you interpret the way you want to believe it. Why did you begin to explain at verse 19. The chapter speaks of food then. Previous verses it speaks of lewdness, idolatry, temptation it’s not till later the verses refer to eating. ll things are lawful (not all foods are lawful) I can make the bible say anything I want at the convenience to me. 1 Corinthians 6:12 All things are lawful to me but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. The same, talking of other sins, idolaters, adulterers, thieves and the like. But as ye are washed, sanctified and jutified in the name of the lord… Everything is permissable but being right in the name of the lord none of these temptations will overcome you. Again I say, morality is inconsistent even in your bible, you decide which laws you will follow, what is ethical to you. Your moral judgement is no better or worse than mine. Again you have to believe the bible to believe its dogma. What you deem immoral someone else believes it to be moral. There are other religions that think what you believe to be immoral. Does that make them right over you? No, it’s only beliefs, ideas not truth. The bible is an hypotheses.
November 22nd, 2008 at 2:24 am
Field trips are intended to be educational. The whole point of exposing them to this thought is to try and get them to accept it. It’s to teach them. You can say what you will, but that doesn’t change what it is. Teaching kids that homosexual behavior is normal and healthy is a view I do not share. If this behavior were normal it wouldn’t be an issue would it? If it was normal it would be viewed as normal and we would not be having this conversation. If it was normal it would be no more of an issue than heterosexual marriage. This is my opinion and I’m entitled to have it without being accused of practicing hatred. Is bestiality normal? Why not? Can two brothers get married? Why not? Who are you to judge? Is this a ridiculous argument? I guess it all depends on your beliefs. So what’s the answer?
Faith, Christians are not the ones attempting to change the law. These marriage traditions are ancient, that should tell you something. Homosexual activists are the ones attempting to change long held traditions.
If a minority of nudists wants to stop wearing clothes is it a violation of their rights to enforce public decency laws? Why? They were born naked, what right does anyone have to require them to be clothed?
November 22nd, 2008 at 3:16 am
Ok, let’s see what Paul had to say in context, and specifically, I’ll post this for now and do a commentary on the church in Corinth later on.
11For I am yearning to see you, that I may impart and share with you some spiritual gift to strengthen and establish you;
12That is, that we may be mutually strengthened and encouraged and comforted by each other’s faith, both yours and mine.
13I want you to know, brethren, that many times I have planned and intended to come to you, though thus far I have been hindered and prevented, in order that I might have some fruit (some result of my labors) among you, as I have among the rest of the Gentiles.
14Both to Greeks and to barbarians (to the cultured and to the uncultured), both to the wise and the foolish, I have an obligation to discharge and a duty to perform and a debt to pay.
15So, for my part, I am willing and eagerly ready to preach the Gospel to you also who are in Rome.
16For I am not ashamed of the Gospel (good news) of Christ, for it is God’s power working unto salvation [for deliverance from eternal death] to everyone who believes with a personal trust and a confident surrender and firm reliance, to the Jew first and also to the Greek,
17For in the Gospel a righteousness which God ascribes is revealed, both springing from faith and leading to faith [disclosed through the way of faith that arouses to more faith]. As it is written, The man who through faith is just and upright shall live and shall live by faith.(A)
18For God’s [holy] wrath and indignation are revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who in their wickedness repress and hinder the truth and make it inoperative.
19For that which is known about God is evident to them and made plain in their inner consciousness, because God [Himself] has shown it to them.
20For ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity, have been made intelligible and clearly discernible in and through the things that have been made (His handiworks). So [men] are without excuse [altogether without any defense or justification],(B)
21Because when they knew and recognized Him as God, they did not honor and glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. But instead they became futile and [c]godless in their thinking [with vain imaginings, foolish reasoning, and stupid speculations] and their senseless minds were darkened.
22Claiming to be wise, they became fools [professing to be smart, they made simpletons of themselves].
23And by them the glory and majesty and excellence of the immortal God were exchanged for and represented by images, resembling mortal man and birds and beasts and reptiles.
24Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their [own] hearts to sexual impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves [abandoning them to the degrading power of sin],
25Because they exchanged the truth of God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, Who is blessed forever! Amen (so be it).(C)
26For this reason God gave them over and abandoned them to vile affections and degrading passions. For their women exchanged their natural function for an unnatural and abnormal one,
27And the men also turned from natural relations with women and were set ablaze (burning out, consumed) with lust for one another–men committing shameful acts with men and suffering in their own [d]bodies and personalities the inevitable consequences and penalty of their wrong-doing and going astray, which was [their] fitting retribution.
28And so, since they did not see fit to acknowledge God or approve of Him or consider Him worth the knowing, God gave them over to a base and condemned mind to do things not proper or decent but loathsome,
29Until they were filled (permeated and saturated) with every kind of unrighteousness, iniquity, grasping and covetous greed, and malice. [They were] full of envy and jealousy, murder, strife, deceit and treachery, ill will and cruel ways. [They were] secret backbiters and gossipers,
30Slanderers, hateful to and hating God, full of insolence, arrogance, [and] boasting; inventors of new forms of evil, disobedient and undutiful to parents.
31[They were] without understanding, conscienceless and faithless, heartless and loveless [and] merciless.
32Though they are fully aware of God’s righteous
decree that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only do them themselves but approve and applaud others who practice them.
November 22nd, 2008 at 3:24 am
The fist ten verses are a greeting and so I omitted them, that’s Paul’s letter to the church in Rome, chapter 1
November 22nd, 2008 at 3:26 am
You’re getting ridiculous now. They were being taught respect for marriage not acceptance of homosexuals. Apparently this situation was “normal” for them or they wouldn’t have been at the ceremony. They didn’t have to be taught about homosexuality, no doubt they already understood. We would and have had this conversation before, I am in a heterosexual marriage but at one time it wasn’t considered normal. My husband is black. It was punishable under some laws. Who’s to say what is normal? Some people eat meat, some eat only veg. which is normal? We all have our own normalcy. No body accused you of practicing hatred. Fear and unacceptance of diversity maybe. Bestiality is not normal for me but it may be for someone else. I don’t believe an animal can consent to that so I don’t agree with it. Why do you keep bringing up can a brother marry a brother? Do you know any brothers that want to marry? Most brothers don’t even want to share a room with each other. I can judge all I want I’m not bound by the bible. Although, I don’t judge, it’s you that’s doing it. I’m fine with what anyone wants to do as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone and is consensual.
“Traditions are ancient that should tell you something” Traditions are changed all the time, they aren’t written in stone. What tradition says marriage is between a man and a woman? People change, societies change, traditions, rules, ideas are always changing to accomadate the reality we’re in. It wouldn’t bother me if people wanted to walk around naked, it sure would be cheaper since my son wears out his clothes faster than I can buy them. It certainly doesn’t hurt anyone, go to the jungle sometime, there are many unclothed people. I don’t know about you but the naked body is decent. Many a beautiful painting and statue can show attest to that.
You certainly have your own opinion as I have mine. To each his own. YOU CANNOT USE RELIGION TO GOVERN LAW. that’s all I’m saying about this anymore.
November 22nd, 2008 at 4:09 am
Don’t bother posting anything, you’re not getting it. You can quote the bible till the cows come home. I don’t believe in your bible, many people don’t believe in your bible, your truths are not my truths. You cannot use religion to govern and pass laws. I don’t want any religion telling me what I can and cannot do.
November 22nd, 2008 at 4:17 am
If they changed all the time they wouldn’t be “tradition”
the handing down of statements, beliefs, legends, customs, information, etc., from generation to generation, esp. by word of mouth or by practice: a story that has come down to us by popular tradition.
2. something that is handed down: the traditions of the Eskimos.
3. a long-established or inherited way of thinking or acting: The rebellious students wanted to break with tradition.
4. a continuing pattern of culture beliefs or practices.
5. a customary or characteristic method or manner: The winner took a victory lap in the usual track tradition.
Ummm……the one that has never recognized homosexual marriage?
November 22nd, 2008 at 5:07 am
We can agree to disagree. I’m not changing my beliefs. You don’t have to change yours.
Good night.
November 22nd, 2008 at 5:12 am
That chapter of Romans is the amplified translation. I added NOTHING to it, or altered it in any way. It’s straight out of the book, just in case anyone thought the text within the parentheses was mine. It would appear that the bible does condemn homosexuality after all.
I guess it’s all how you interpret it.
Here’s whats on the horizon. The elimination of religious free speech.
“Against the Current: The Cost Of Speaking Out For Orientation Change In Canada”
It’s next on the agenda, watch and see.
November 22nd, 2008 at 5:37 am
Here’s the link.
http://www.narth.com/docs/current.html
November 22nd, 2008 at 5:40 am
There’s lots of these, but i’ll just drop this one….
http://www.albertmohler.com/commentary_read.php?cdate=2004-08-05
November 22nd, 2008 at 5:53 am
Where does everyone think the moral standards for most of the laws this country was founded on come from? The BIBLE.
November 23rd, 2008 at 12:39 pm