The always-provocative Drudge announces Obama’s selection as Time’s Man of the Year with a photo from a different area, that suggests a different Obama than the one we’ve come to know.
That IS a regular cigarette, no?
[...] This chap created an interesting post today on Alan Colmes Liberaland Blog Archive Times Person Of The Year …Here’s a short outlineSmoking anything wreaks havoc on the lungs, so in that respect pot is physically bad for you too (thatâs why todayâs higher average potency is a very good thing, people smoke less). But it doesnât rot your liver the way liquor does. … [...]
I would totally blaze with Obama, Biden and T Mason! Obama looks great in the photo as usual!
Love to see this debate go on while i was gone. I love all of you and SARAH i,ll take that kiss.
Dammit UM I was gonna give ya some crap on the violet thing… using Violet who? or color? I was thinking it was petty pointing out a typo.. lol now I wont be so nice since you reread your posts my friend. haha Sarah thanks for calling me a good egg on the other post, Dads do what dads do no pat on back necessary.
I meant to say Hi TRA
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Why so surprised, liberals don’t consider illegal drugs to be a bad thing. How do you think they get all their great ideas.
I wonder how old his daughters would have to be before they can smoke pot in front of daddy.
December 17th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
I like that photo!
Why so surprised, liberals don’t consider illegal drugs to be a bad thing.
Well, I wouldn’t call Drudge a liberal – though compared to you, Separate Man, I guess he might be.
Regarding ‘illegal drugs’, I guess you are assuming that is a joint, bomber, hooter, hog leg, or fatty he is smoking. I can’t really tell from the photo, but to your point…
No, I don’t consider pot to be a bad thing. The worst thing about it is it can land you in jail. It’s a good medicine, the DEA’s own judge has told the DEA to reclassify as such, and they have refused.
Reefer Madness is way more dangerous that reefer.
December 17th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Ha! I haven’t heard it called a hog leg in a long time. Hilarious.
December 17th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Separate Man: “I wonder how old his daughters would have to be before they can smoke pot in front of daddy.”
Maybe as old as Bush was when he dallied with alcohol and drug abuse?
I mean, seriously…
I don’t condone illegal drug use of any kind (sorry, Um Cara– this is one of the few times we part ways in thinking), but unless it’s meth, I wouldn’t condemn anyone for youthful indiscretions. As long as it’s in their youth.
I suspect Obama’s smoking a cigarette, anyway.
December 17th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Even if it is a doobie, blunt, pinner, or left handed cigarette, Obama came clean w/ his past drug usage long ago.
Clinton’s ‘did not inhale’ idiocy really irritated me. Either he was a liar (strong possibility), or didn’t want to smoke and acted like he did just to fit in with the crowd (really just a different kind of lie, a more pathetic type of lie).
I think all presidents should be required to burn one prior to deciding to send our military into a new battle.
December 17th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
I don’t condone illegal drug use of any kind
Sure, I agree – it’s illegal, so it’s a bad idea to do it. I’m not in favor of speeding either. The consequences are you end up with legal problems (as opposed to growing man boobs or any of that other nonsense those of us of a certain age learned in health class).
It just shouldn’t be illegal in the first place. But until that changes, it is most definitely in everybody’s interest to avoid it.
Though, Sarah – what is your position on those who have it prescribed for a medical condition in a state that allows it? It is still against federal law, so it is ‘illegal drug usage’. Still against it in that case?
December 17th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Yeah, the medicinal marijuana aspect. That’s a conundrum.
Easy for me, cancer-free (for all I know, anyway), to hang tight with my current view, which is: Put it in a pill form so it’s not abused. But from what I’ve gleaned, it’s more effective, natural, etc., to smoke it. Medicinal marijuana that’s strictly controlled (like any other prescribed drug) is still open to abuse, but …I know a lot of people probably rely on it. I don’t so much have a problem with prescribed marijuana intake.
But I disagree with, “It just shouldn’t be illegal in the first place.” We have enough problems with addictions in America. It is absolutely a gateway drug, I’ve seen it work that way enough times.
Many, highly-functioning, excellently-employed Americans use it recreationally, with no (it seems) negative side effects. They are infrequent users. But they’re still creating the demand. They’re perpetuating the usage of it as a means to escape.
December 17th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Drudge is ticked off because his selection for Man of the Year was the head of the Egg Marketing Board ;0)
December 17th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Ha! That’s a HOT pic! I’ve gotta crush on Obama… B to the A to the R-A-C-K-O-B-A-M-A!
December 17th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Bah, the desire to alter consciousness is a perfectly natural thing.
The ‘gateway’ stuff is not proven by decent research. (you have to get approval from the gvt. to do pot research, to get approval you pretty much have to be aiming to prove something bad about it) I’m sure you have anecdotal evidence, but if anything the illegality aspect is the biggest ‘gateway’ compontent. I.e. if you have the connections to buy weed, odds are someday one of those connections will offer you coke, or something else. And, folks who are willing to ignore the legal issues of pot are more likely to ignore the legal issues of coke, etc. If it were legal, fewer people would have access to underground markets where other stuff was available.
Free the weed!
any, highly-functioning, excellently-employed Americans use it recreationally, with no (it seems) negative side effects. They are infrequent users.
Don’t know what you consider ‘infrequent’, but I’ve known highly functional folks who smoke almost every day. I know highly functional folks who have a glass of wine with dinner every day too.
But they’re still creating the demand. They’re perpetuating the usage of it as a means to escape.
Yea, like people who buy books, movies, and music. What’s wrong with a bit of escapism? I have a closet suspicion that you might read books – if so you are just as culpable as a drug purchaser for perpetuating a means to escape! ; )
December 17th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
I took a good look at Obama’s eyes in this pic, and I’m experiencing some kind of psychological buzz/high right now. No joke. I’m glad it’s lunch time.
December 17th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Sarah,
Might it be a gateway drug do to the fact that it is illegal? Kind of forces people using it to deal with segments of society were other illegal drugs are also prevalent.
December 17th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Um Cara,
I cannot put it in a better way than you already have. One point though, Sarah, there are many legal drugs prescribed daily to which people become addicted to which are much more dangerous than marijuana, plus, there’s no way to overdose off it. Alcohol is more dangerous than marijuana.
December 17th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Um Cara, actually down south (USA) we call it a HAWG LEG. And I agree with you Cheryl. He does look hot in that picture.
December 17th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Um: “Yea, like people who buy books, movies, and music. What’s wrong with a bit of escapism? I have a closet suspicion that you might read books – if so you are just as culpable as a drug purchaser for perpetuating a means to escape!”
Um, reading, heck, even being addicted to books means you’re probably exercising your brain. That’s why we teach children to read. However, using or being addicted to marijuana tends to slow brain function (the very “escapism” you observe).
A “bit” of escapism, no problem. A LOT of escapism?….Well, let’s see…America’s children are already incredibly disconnected from reality through hours and hours of escaping to TV, gaming, computers, music, etc. America’s adults are already incredibly disconnected from reality through the above-mentioned, in addition to gambling (also made legal), access to porn in an ever-increasing variety of media, etc. etc.
(Philosophical question: What are we escaping? Is what we’re escaping going to get any better by us fleeing from it? Or, rather than escapism, maybe marijuana use is a big F.U. to The Man, a means of rebellion?)
Um: “Don’t know what you consider ‘infrequent’, but I’ve known highly functional folks who smoke almost every day. I know highly functional folks who have a glass of wine with dinner every day too.”
Yes. We have alcohol, caffeine, and a multitude of other legal “drugs” that marijuana advocates often point to as a means to say, “Why can’t we have one more choice in legal marijuana?” My opinion: Because we already have a problem with alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, and a multitude of other legal drugs. Why bring on one more?
I know many people who are highly functioning alcoholics. Except in their personal lives, of course. And their co-workers would take exception to the “functioning” part.
Um: “I’m sure you have anecdotal evidence, but if anything the illegality aspect is the biggest ‘gateway’ compontent. I.e. if you have the connections to buy weed, odds are someday one of those connections will offer you coke, or something else.”
To a point. Most of the drug dealers I knew growing up started by inviting us to parties where we could drink underage. Then, a bunch of friends would smoke pot. Soon they were doing acid, crank, and, less frequent, coke.
Legalize marijuana and more people will do it. Is this what’s wanted? More out-of-it Americans?
THC stays in the bloodstream for weeks. Alcohol stays in the bloodstream for days.
December 17th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Diego: “Sarah, there are many legal drugs prescribed daily to which people become addicted to which are much more dangerous than marijuana, plus, there’s no way to overdose off it. Alcohol is more dangerous than marijuana.”
Diego, of course people can abuse prescribed drugs, and do so in new and inventive ways every day. That’s illegal too, yes?
Alcohol might be deemed “more dangerous” than maryjane, because its use is more prevalant. There are more people getting drunk and wrecking, than there are more people getting high and wrecking, because there are more people getting drunk– because it’s a legal substance.
Why would we legalize another substance that would result in further impairing our fellow Americans’ judgment and reflexes?
December 17th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Well if it came from Dregs it’s got almost as much credibility as the New York Post, or, say, Karl Rove.
December 17th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Sarah,
I have to agree with Um on this one (about pot in general.)
Perhaps the people you know who smoke are much different than the ones I know. I don’t think pot is physically addictive… I have never seen any research to suggest that it is. I do know that alcoholics get to a point where they cannot function effectively, but I have never seen anyone that stoned! Give me a choice between a person driving towards me drunk or on weed and I will take the pot smoker. As for how many people smoke vs alcohol, I think there are a lot more people smoking than you think there are. I always find it amazing how many people in their late 50’s and even 60’s smoke dope!
I do think it should be legal, I don’t buy your argument that just because it is legal more people will do it. There are a lot of things that are legal that I don’t do or want to do…
December 17th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Sarah,
THC stays in the bloodstream for weeks. Alcohol stays in the bloodstream for days.
No it doesn’t, it’s metabolites do. Acid is in and out much more quickly than alcohol, does that make it better?
There are more people getting drunk and wrecking, than there are more people getting high and wrecking, because there are more people getting drunk– because it’s a legal substance.
Driving impaired is bad, and should certainly be illegal. If you stay up too late reading a book, and are too tired to drive, you shouldn’t be on the road. If you ignore your impaired state and drive in a reckless manner, you deserve the legal repercussions for reckless driving. You don’t deserve to be arrested for reading a book last night until 3:00 am.
Alcohol might be deemed “more dangerous” than maryjane, because its use is more prevalant.
Booze is also worse because it is physically addictive. Plus it is very harmful to the body. Smoking anything wreaks havoc on the lungs, so in that respect pot is physically bad for you too (that’s why today’s higher average potency is a very good thing, people smoke less). But it doesn’t rot your liver the way liquor does. Anyway, I don’t have a problem with adults using booze, as long as they are informed of the effects.
Um, reading, heck, even being addicted to books means you’re probably exercising your brain.
You probably read higher quality stuff than me ;^)
Philosophical question: What are we escaping? Is what we’re escaping going to get any better by us fleeing from it?
Why do we do all kinds of things that give us pleasure? It’s how we are wired. Altering consciousness is just something us critters (and other critters, by the way) like to do. Think kids spinning around until they get dizzy, for example. Look at every culture, they all have various ways of altering consciousness, pot, soma, booze, peyote, fervent prayer, you name it.
Or, rather than escapism, maybe marijuana use is a big F.U. to The Man, a means of rebellion?
Perhaps for some, I guess for those who do it for the F.U. effect, they wouldn’t do it if it were legal. So yea, there is a certain sub group of heads who wouldn’t take that first toke if it were legal.
Because we already have a problem with alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, and a multitude of other legal drugs. Why bring on one more?
Because the negative legal effects are WAAAAYYY disproportionate to the negative health and societal effects of a benign drug such as pot. If Obama had been busted with a dime bag in college, he would not have been elected president. Lucky him.
December 17th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Missed this point…
Legalize marijuana and more people will do it. Is this what’s wanted? More out-of-it Americans?
I don’t know that we would have ‘more out of it Americans’, folks like to alter their consciousness in various ways, if more folks smoked pot instead of drinking, it would be a good thing – yea. They would be exposing themselves to far fewer health effects, and stoned people are way less violent than drunk people. (IF it were legal. Like I said, Obama dodged a bullet – we Obama supporters are very lucky he didn’t get busted. I wonder if there was a better potential candidate rendered ineligible by a college age bust for pot?)
December 17th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Why so surprised, liberals don’t consider illegal drugs to be a bad thing.
Posted by Seperate man
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Not like Rush Limbaugh.
Or is it only drugs that Big Pharma can profit on, as opposed to those that people can grow themselves?
Or maybe it’s OK if you get you maid to go and buy them for you?
December 17th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Or maybe it’s OK if you get you maid to go and buy them for you?
Wouldn’t that depend on the quality of the herb she was able to score?
December 17th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Southern Girl Lib,
Um Cara, actually down south (USA) we call it a HAWG LEG.
Yea, I’m a Texan, all those words I used are various words that were in use way back when (except ‘blunt’ I’m a bit old for that one, but I have heard it used)
‘Gimmee a hit offa that hawwwg leg, mutha f*****’
And I agree with you Cheryl. He does look hot in that picture.
I’ll go with the word ‘cool’ instead of ‘hot’. Yea, not PC to say someone looks ‘cool’ w/ a cigarette, I hate them (cigarettes), but whatever. He looks cool.
December 17th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
G.D. it! I had a whole, great big long post ready to reply to you, Um Cara, and the frikkin’ computer screen refreshed out of NOWHERE.
Sh—t…..! MF!
Insert “angry frowny face” emoticon here.
*sigh*. Bear with me. I’ll start again.
(tap tap tippy tap tap tippy — caps lock — tippy tap tap tap)
December 17th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
“Why so surprised, liberals don’t consider illegal drugs to be a bad thing. How do you think they get all their great ideas.
I wonder how old his daughters would have to be before they can smoke pot in front of daddy.”
16. Exceptions sometimes if someone is immature like yourself. You might have to hide it for few years more since you can’t handle the presences of opinion beyond your own.
Seriously though, pot doesn’t kill anyone nor does not help anyone pass their finals. CONS think they have this mission to prove drugs kill us all and never once have I heard them show to me any data to back what they say. It’s always about morals and ethics. What morals do we teach while we market a drug that kills thousands (booze) and spend millions on ads that tell our kids to be ‘above the influence’ of marijuana. But drink until you die, that’s just fine.
Ya, I got more ideas than you. I also qualify as a modern hippie because I expanded my mind with Timmy Leary when I was young & stupid. I bet when all the people reading this were young they spent their time in a church, kissing a rosary, donating to the orphanage, hugging their parents, doing their homework.
Sure, I believe you. Sure.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
The sleazy propaganda media award was not given to Sean Hannity, Fox news and company.Now they are crying that Mccain missed the opportunity to exploit the rev.Wright’s issues.Yet they played the tapes over and over.So they failed and are still in denial.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
“I don’t know that we would have ‘more out of it Americans’, folks like to alter their consciousness in various ways, if more folks smoked pot instead of drinking, it would be a good thing – yea. They would be exposing themselves to far fewer health effects, and stoned people are way less violent than drunk people. (IF it were legal. Like I said, Obama dodged a bullet – we Obama supporters are very lucky he didn’t get busted. I wonder if there was a better potential candidate rendered ineligible by a college age bust for pot?) Posted by Um Cara”
Not really that big a deal if Obama got caught. Glad he didn’t but, trust me, if he got pinched for some green he would still be where he is today. Just would have a bit of trouble in the beginning of his political career. Try not to forget this the THE FIRST President to openly admit to drug use as an adolescent. People still voted for him against the far-right gross comments about this effecting him to this day in mental problems.
People are, slowly, waking up in this country to a great many illogical things we do in our society. Pot being illegal and booze being legal being only one example.
So nobody gets the wrong idea about me: Don’t do drugs. They make it harder to school Hannity/Limbaugh over the phonelines! Also I almost died in circumstances I won’t repeat. Bad stuff kiddos.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Actually, this is probably a quicker read, anyway.
Um: “No it doesn’t, it’s metabolites do. Acid is in and out much more quickly than alcohol, does that make it better?”
Just going by what the pro-pot web sites state.
Um: “Driving impaired is bad, and should certainly be illegal. If you stay up too late reading a book, and are too tired to drive, you shouldn’t be on the road. If you ignore your impaired state and drive in a reckless manner, you deserve the legal repercussions for reckless driving. You don’t deserve to be arrested for reading a book last night until 3:00 am.”
Reading vs. smoking pot. Not a very good analogy. Reading is legal, and rarely leads to driver impairment. Substance abuse often does.
Um: “Booze is also worse because it is physically addictive.”
According to the 2003 National Survey on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH), an estimated 21.6 million Americans aged 12 or older were classified with substance dependence or abuse (9.1 percent of the total population). Of the estimated 6.9 million Americans classified with dependence on or abuse of illicit drugs, 4.2 million were dependent on or abused marijuana.
Um: “Plus it is very harmful to the body.”
Not necessarily. In moderation, red wine has been found to have positive effects on the body. Marijuana, unless used for medical purposes, has none.
Um: “Smoking anything wreaks havoc on the lungs, so in that respect pot is physically bad for you too (that’s why today’s higher average potency is a very good thing, people smoke less).”
But they get addicted more. And while it doesn’t rot your liver the way liquor does, it does rot the brain.
Um: “Anyway, I don’t have a problem with adults using booze, as long as they are informed of the effects.
“Using booze,” is an interesting term. A tool for what? That’s what I mean by escapism. It seems like escapism is more attractive than responsibility in this country. Why legalize one more means of escape?
Um: “You probably read higher quality stuff than me ;^)”
Bleh! I doubt it! I have a few books going on right now, but nothing mind-bogglingly brilliant.
“Why do we do all kinds of things that give us pleasure? It’s how we are wired. Altering consciousness is just something us critters (and other critters, by the way) like to do. Think kids spinning around until they get dizzy, for example. Look at every culture, they all have various ways of altering consciousness, pot, soma, booze, peyote, fervent prayer, you name it.”
Kids who spin eventually fall, regain equilibrium, and go at it again. If they make a habit of it and become brain damage, then their method of “escapism” is not a good one. When their parents — nurses, doctors, surgeons, pilots, teachers, truckers, lawyers, etc.– decide to “spin” with a substance that effects, for weeks, their ability to argue cases, oversee children, drive the highways, fly the skies, and operate on people is hampered for weeks.
Um: “Perhaps for some, I guess for those who do it for the F.U. effect, they wouldn’t do it if it were legal. So yea, there is a certain sub group of heads who wouldn’t take that first toke if it were legal.”
Then I guess they’ll have to move on down the line to coke, meth, heroin, etc…. since those are still illegal.
Um: “Because the negative legal effects are WAAAAYYY disproportionate to the negative health and societal effects of a benign drug such as pot.”
You make pot almost sound cute. Like Percival the Pot leaf, offering special, freshly-baked brownies to all good girls and boys.
But the negative legal, health, and societal effects of pot wouldn’t be there if people didn’t smoke the sh-t. Plus, again– we have an incredible number of legal, health, and societal effects from alcohol. Why make pot legal? It’s really no more benign. It’s just not used as much as alcohol.
We just differ in our opinions on this matter. I’m not willing to take a risk of making ONE MORE drug legal and therefore, acceptable to use and eventually abuse.
Our country’s in a mess, partly BECAUSE we’re all into our own little forms of “escapism.” If anything, we all need to sober up a hell of a lot more and figure out how to fix things, rather than arguing about legalizing one more substance to abuse.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ll be repairing to the nearest bar for a pitcher of martinis, before I drive back to my home, located near the crosswalk to the School for Limping Children. (I hope I see the stop sign this time! It seemed to pop out of nowhere last week….*sigh*).
Happy illicit puffing, Um Cara. Or is it legal where you are?
December 17th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
The sleazy award did not go to Hannity this year.The Obama’s inspiration(messiah) was more powerfull than his God of hate.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
I know folks on the right the that smoke 24/7 and drink like sailors. Mrs. Bush sold the stuff in collage.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Believe it or not this conservative thinks maybe we should legalize drugs and put a tax on them like everything else. I personally do not use drugs, don’t even like medications that are prescribed. I hate medicine of any kind..even tylenol. Marijuana CAN be a gate-way drug but it’s uses in the medical field are phenomenal. If you have ever seen anyone in so much pain they ask you to just let them die, maybe you would feel like I do.
Alcohol does more damage to the body than marijuana, and I don’t see anyone asking for alcohol to be illegal again.
I have a bigger problem with folks smoking in public (where I have to inhale their secon-hand smoke) than I have with folks doing drugs in private…as long as children aren’t involved and they don’t harm anyone.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Most of you on this blog right or left that where in their teens and early 20,s from 1967 to 1989 have done acid,coke,wiskey,beer,mushrooms,peyote,various pills,smoked pot 24/7,rum,wine,legal and illegal. I have. I still toke and i love beer. If they made beer illegal,put me in jail. Kicking back and enjoying all sorts of music from The Boss to James Brown to Hank Willams to The Sex Pistols. Sports,sex,food,nature and anger. Neocons and left wing looneys, fess up.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
T Mason’s starting to make sense to me.
I must have gotten ahold of some bad stuff.
December 17th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
LOL
December 17th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Love to give up these Marlboro,s. Everytime i try quiting,i get stressed out. I walked away from hard drugs,but cigarettes is another issue and the worst drug on the planet. I no longer drink everyday,but i smoke cigarettes. Any tips to quit these nasty things? Anyone?
December 17th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Sarah,
Just going by what the pro-pot web sites state.
Yea, they are talking about the metabolites. That’s what is tested in a drug test, not ‘THC’. People are irritated that you can test positive a month after burning a doobie, but you can snort a line of coke and test clean a week later.
Reading vs. smoking pot. Not a very good analogy. Reading is legal, and rarely leads to driver impairment. Substance abuse often does
I’m not making a ‘pro abuse’ argument, I’m making a legalization argument. And my point was that driving while impaired, regardless of the reason, is bad, and should be illegal. But it is the driving while impaired is what is bad, not smoking a joint, and not staying up late reading a book. So my analogy was perfectly fine for it’s purpose. I’ve already said you should not smoke pot in the current legal environment, because it is illegal and the legal consequences are bad.
Of the estimated 6.9 million Americans classified with dependence on or abuse of illicit drugs, 4.2 million were dependent on or abused marijuana.
Often use of an illegal drug = abuse in these studies. And regardless, I said physical dependence isn’t there, one can become addicted to anything. You can become addicted to quilting.
Not necessarily. In moderation, red wine has been found to have positive effects on the body. Marijuana, unless used for medical purposes, has none.
Dude, your example of drinking red wine for it’s positive effects is a medical use of alcohol. And marijuana has quite a few more medicinal benefits than booze. The side effects of booze are much worse than the side effects of weed, ask your doctor.
No, it doesn’t. And no, people don’t get ‘addicted more’ to high potency pot, they just smoke less. Where did you hear that people get addicted more when smoking primo bud vs. dirt weed?
I’m going to respond to the rest of your post later, but I’ll respond to the following item now:
Happy illicit puffing, Um Cara. Or is it legal where you are?
I don’t smoke pot, nor do I speed. I’m a pretty law and order kind of guy, actually. And no, it is not legal in Brasil.
December 17th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Let me preface this by saying once again I do not use drugs, I do not like medicine…period.
High potency pot is no more addictive than regular pot, and usually from what I have read it is “better” for the body.
You can drive impaired while talking on a cell phone, eating a burger, drinking a coke, taking PRESCRIPTION drugs, switching the radio station, talking to the passenger, talking to your kids, putting on makeup (I hate that), daydreaming, being sleep deprived.
There are millions of folks who are addicted to prescription drugs, and those are actually MORE of a problem for young people these days since they are readily available in their parent’s medicine cabinet.
Legalizing drugs would allow the government to tax them thereby taking the criminal element down about 10 notches. You would also decrease the rate of HIV/AIDS because you would provide hypodermics that were CLEAN to users, the governmnet would make money off it, and the government could monitor the content/purity/authenticity of the drug.
Most people don’t have a problem with getting a drink after work, on the weekend, with dinner to relax….so why judge someone who wants to do otherwise?
December 17th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Steve,
If you really want to quite here are some ideas: gum, patches, hypnosis, acupuncture. Surfing the net and looking at smoker lung did wonders for a nursing school peer of mine who had smoked since she was in high school.
December 17th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
STEVE—Chantix has a very high success rate. I would say the biggest thing needed to stop smoking is a true desire to do so. IMHO, if a person has that, then they can succeed.
December 17th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Thanks very much TRA and T.MASON. Seen that advertisment playing Zuma. Wish me luck.
December 17th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
I think I’m hallucinating too! I’m agreeing with T. Mason and sorry, Sarah, I can’t back you up here.
First, that is one F-I-N-E picture of Obama. I’m not sure what they were trying to prove with that picture, if there was something to prove. No matter what he may have done in his past (as I’m sure we’ve all done things that we’d either like to forget or not have someone bring up), he is now Pres.-elect, Times’ Person of the Year, and I can’t see where this picture would make anybody think any less of him or his accomplishments.
Most everything I would have said has already been spoken. I do agree they should legalize pot. Every person I know that smokes it and has for years, never once tried a harder drug. Some of them won’t even take aspirin. I think that excuse could go along the same lines of not wanting gay marriage (sorry to bring that up) but the excuse of allowing one thing may lead to another is not a good example of not allowing, whatever the issue, to become law or legal.
I think by taking control, taxing it, spending the money towards education, decriminalize it. Less people in jail, more room for serious offenders. I can’t see that happening, it’s too lucrative, to keep it illegal, for the war on drugs, money, money, money. I think that’s what it all comes down to. They’re not concerned for public health, they’re more concerned with losing the funds to “control” it.
December 17th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
I watched a movie last night called the War On Marijuana. The amount of money spent on pot alone under BUSH SR was 214,000,000,000 U.S. dollars. Jails filled to the brim with potheads as well. Pot should be legal. The other stuff no. You have no life on hard drugs. Your life is the drug. Pot is the no. 1 cash crop in 6 states and in the top 5 for cash crops in 29 other states. Get on your pc and look it up. I forgot the web site. Are we winning this war? Our nation is doing a helluva lot better fighting terror.
December 17th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
On yeah, and FYI. Alcohol is metabolized by the liver. Someone stated alcohol stays in you system for DAYS. That is NOT true. The typical person can metabolize about 1/2 ounce of alcohol per hour. This is equal to about 12 ounces of beer, or 1 1/4 ounces of 80 proof liquor OR 4 ounces of wine.
If you chug or play drinking games, then your body can’t metabolize the alcohol or “keep up”, therefore you get the “build up” in your body and you are drunk.
In other words, if you consume 3 regular or “standard” drinks, regardless of how quickly you drank them, it would take your body roughly 3 hours to metabolize the alcohol. Of course this varies based on age, weight, amount of body fat, and your general health.
THC can stay in the body for 3-90 days afte being smoked or ingested orally. Half life is hard to determine for THC since everybody is different, but it averages anywhere from 1-10 days.
December 17th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Everytime i try quiting,i get stressed out. I walked away from hard drugs,but cigarettes is another issue and the worst drug on the planet. I no longer drink everyday,but i smoke cigarettes. Any tips to quit these nasty things? Anyone?
If you live somewhere where it is legal, you might try smoking weed. I knew a chick who kicked a pretty nasty coke habit by smoking huge amounts of pot for a couple months (friend of a friend. I stay away from people who do coke/meth/heroin). Later she smoked normal amounts of pot for a while, then she quit everything, including caffeine.
Nicotine is supposedly harder to quit than just about anything though. Honestly, everyone I know who quit did it cold turkey, and it usually took ‘em half a dozen or more attempts to quit for good.
Good luck man.
December 17th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Lets face it,folks seeking high office most likly did drug and even Palin said she smoked pot. I just don,t have the time and will to drink 24/7 and smoke as well. I have kids and i work 24/7. T.MASON you are right about how long pot and booze stays in the body. It affect the pocket book more. Cabbage,chicken and other food items plus bills are more important.
December 17th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Jails filled to the brim with potheads as well.
Yea, we have declared war on our own fellow countrymen. And the war on drugs is mostly a war on pot. The hard stuff gets people all het up, but the majority of the effort is spent on pot.
Legalize/decriminalize it and there would sure be a whole lot more time/money to go after drugs that are far less benign. Instead we are stealing our fellow American’s cars/houses/lives over something the past few PRESIDENTS OF OUR COUNTRY have done (Obama, Bush, Clinton – yea, I know Obama isn’t technically president yet, but you get my point).
And when I say ’stealing’, I mean us, the American people, not the cops who are doing their jobs and don’t get to choose whether to enforce an idiotic law or not.
December 17th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Not to be pedantic (well, I guess I am, but I feel the need to defend my honor) THC doesn’t flow around in yer blood for days, weeks, or months. It cruises around for no more than eight hours.
The metabolite 9-carboxy-THC is what a blood tests or a pee test would most likely look for, it parties in your blood stream for a couple weeks. Your pee will do more to betray you than your blood. The metabolite is detectable for up to three months in a major smoker.
December 17th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
UM CARA, Watching that movie The War On Pot blew me away on the cash count this country has spent. 200 some billion under Bush SR. Clinton locked a ton of people up for it as well. Another issue not to many folks will say. The reason why illegals are being hired,alot of Americans failed their piss test and being felons and no 1 will hire them because of weed. 6 states pot is the no.1 cash crop and 29 states it,s in the top 5 for cash crops. That,s alot of cash on the real war this country has been fighting for years.
December 17th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
OK Sarah, back to your post:
LOL, so keep weed illegal because it isn’t as bad as coke?
But the negative legal, health, and societal effects of pot wouldn’t be there if people didn’t smoke the sh-t. Plus, again– we have an incredible number of legal, health, and societal effects from alcohol. Why make pot legal? It’s really no more benign. It’s just not used as much as alcohol.
A couple of things here. It is much more benign than alcohol, alcohol makes people violet, tears up the liver, and is physically addictive. None of that is true for pot.
Also, if the penalties for pot were the equivalent of a parking ticket, it would be more in line with the severity of the ‘offense’. Instead people are losing their cars, homes, and lives (both figuratively, and literally – we have the death penalty on the table federally for ‘big time’ pot dealers).
We just differ in our opinions on this matter. I’m not willing to take a risk of making ONE MORE drug legal and therefore, acceptable to use and eventually abuse.
The problem is that the penalties are so severe that they do more societal damage than the offense. I don’t want people to speed, it is dangerous, but I don’t want them to be locked up for a couple of years for it.
Our country’s in a mess, partly BECAUSE we’re all into our own little forms of “escapism.” If anything, we all need to sober up a hell of a lot more and figure out how to fix things, rather than arguing about legalizing one more substance to abuse.
I really don’t think we would have more un-sober people by having an additional option, mostly there would be folks who would substitute weed for alcohol. Which would be a good thing.
and:
legalizing one more substance to abuse
Use does not equal abuse. But we are sure abusing a lot of people by taking away their freedom for doing a drug Obama, Clinton, Bush, and Palin have all done.
December 17th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
typo:
alcohol makes people violet
Well, it would be pretty cool if it did, kind of like that girl in Willy Wonka… unfortunately it makes people violent not violet
December 17th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
I no longer drink everyday,but i smoke cigarettes. Any tips to quit these nasty things? Anyone?
I saw it written that 95% of people who get through 6 months tobacco-free do it by quitting cold-turkey, because anything you do to take the bite off the urge only extends the length of time you’re feeling the urge.
If you decide to quit, because you really want to quit, and you JUST DON’T LIGHT UP ANY MORE you’ll be over the worst of the chemical dependence in 72 hours.
Take a look at whyquit.com.
December 17th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
LIBERAL ROTTWEILER,thanks for the tip.
December 18th, 2008 at 12:07 am
Well Uma, my vhs copy of Reefer Madness while I was watching it one cloudy night broke and screwed up my video player.
I’ve never had smoke do that to any of my stuff.
December 18th, 2008 at 12:13 am
Another good weed movie:
Half Baked
December 18th, 2008 at 12:24 am
Once again, the whacko righties need to get a life.
December 18th, 2008 at 1:27 am
T… well stated posts, u da girl! Cheech and Chongs 1st movie was the best in that genre. And thats all I got to say on this topic. moving on…
December 18th, 2008 at 6:45 am
Can I add something? In my time as a nurse I have seen a LOT of people brought in because they were intoxicated via alcohol. some of them brought in by the cops because they had gotten into fights, some brought in via ambulance because they had accidents that ended with bodily injuries to them and usually other innocent people, OR they are brought in DOA.
I have yet to see someone brought in with the above after using pot. meth yes, heroine yes, cocaine yes, OD on barbituates yes…but pot, NO.
December 18th, 2008 at 7:41 am
I just wonder how many people Obama has hurt with his “second hand smoke.” Maybe that is ok now that we have a liberal as President elect who smokes.
December 18th, 2008 at 8:18 am
Would you rather have a president who smoked weed in his past and admitted it or a president who smoked weed and came up with the LAME ASS lie that he “didn’t inhale”?
December 18th, 2008 at 10:04 am
willy,
If he follows the rules he can’t smoke just anywhere in the white house. Only in his private residence and outside.
Hope he follows the rules.
December 18th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Doesn’t he get to set those rules? Not being argumentative, but wasn’t it one of the former first ladies that set the rule in the first place?
December 18th, 2008 at 10:33 am
Um,
I am not 100% sure of that. I can’t remember which show I was watching, but they were talking (to him) about his smoking habit and how he doesn’t do it as much. Then they went into this big thing about how if he smokes he can only smoke in certain areas of the white house since it is technically a federal building. ALL federal buildings in the U.S. are supposed to be smoke free. He can smoke in his private residence and outside.
All I know is what was reported.
December 18th, 2008 at 10:39 am
So, I said: “Our country’s in a mess, partly BECAUSE we’re all into our own little forms of “escapism.” If anything, we all need to sober up a hell of a lot more and figure out how to fix things, rather than arguing about legalizing one more substance to abuse.”
Um Cara: “I really don’t think we would have more un-sober people by having an additional option, mostly there would be folks who would substitute weed for alcohol. Which would be a good thing.”
I don’t believe that would happen, actually. Either way, seems a pretty big risk to take, if the consequences are dire.
Don’t get me wrong, everyone’s making excellent arguments, and if I could forget how my classmates’ brains turned to ashes with steady use of weed, my mind would probably be changed.
It’s just one of those things that, for me, it’ll take an awfully long time, and more concrete data, to change my mind.
December 18th, 2008 at 10:39 am
How can you argue that certain drugs should be legal and others shouldn’t be simply because someone MIGHT abuse them?
We have nicotine, alcohol, prescription drugs (not always used for what they are prescribed for, and not always by the person they were prescribed for, diet pills (nasty little things), sodas with HIGH levels of caffeine. They are all legal, and are abused. They can damage a person just like anything else.
Does anyone realize how many prescription drugs are abused? WAY more than illegal drugs. Heck, let’s outlaw paint, etc. used for huffing. There’s a kicker.
Making them illegal doesn’t stop folks from using them anymore than prohibition stopped folks from drinking. Legalize it, monitor it, and capitalize from it.
December 18th, 2008 at 10:46 am
The same way you can argue that pursuing an indefinite war with unclear objectives (other than keeping the fighting over THERE instead of here), doesn’t mean you want troops to die.
T Mason: “Making them illegal doesn’t stop folks from using them”
Uh, yes it does. I know plenty of people who have said if pot were legal, they’d smoke it, but as it’s illegal, they don’t. If it were legal, I might even smoke it once in awhile.
If it were legal, kids would have even better access to it than they do now. This is what you want?
I also have friends who occasionally puff, and they said they’d definitely do it more if it were legal.
T Mason: “Legalize it, monitor it, and capitalize from it.”
Oh yes, let’s capitalize on everything, by all means. Amazing that a health professional would sell out to another drug like you’re doing.
December 18th, 2008 at 11:03 am
I forgot the site. The no.1 cash crop in 6 states is pot. Pot is in top 5 for cash crops in 29 other states. Leagalize it. Another problem is the illegal immigration work force . With the number of felons and failed drug test due to pot. We al debated the war on terror,but the war on pot has cost this country far more money. A war that has been going on for nearly a 100 years with laws,regulations and jail time. I puff on off days from work. Went to jail for it as well. The money from pot would sail this economy into the right direction. Yes ,capitalize pot. Illegal immigration will fall even more by having AMERICAN work force that would apply for jobs for not fearing a failed test and having a felon tag on them. SARAH,i agree with T.MASON on this issue. Most of the time i fuss with her. On another note,i like the movie DAZED and CONFUSED. It reminded me of my high school days.
December 18th, 2008 at 11:40 am
The web site i think i went to was. Top pot growing states in America or something like that. I lived in Kentucky and we where debating the no.1 state on pot.
December 18th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Sarah,
If it were legal, kids would have even better access to it than they do now. This is what you want?
I remember trying to buy booze was always very difficult as a kid. Once, when I was 16, I had one of my buddies older sisters with me to score some beer. She chickened out when sitting outside the liquor store and reached into her purse and pulled out a big bag of dope, asking ‘wouldn’t you rather just smoke some weed?’. (my answer was no, by the way. She ended up buying some Bartles and James wine coolers that I got sick off of and made a fool of myself in front of my girlfriend). Scoring beer was always a pain, however weed was easy to come by.
I know plenty of people who have said if pot were legal, they’d smoke it, but as it’s illegal, they don’t.
That is true. I chose the much more harmful alcohol when I choose to imbibe.
I don’t believe that would happen, actually. Either way, seems a pretty big risk to take, if the consequences are dire.
LOL. What dire consequences? Surely putting people in jail, for years at a time, is much worse than the ‘dire consequences’ of burning a doob.
if I could forget how my classmates’ brains turned to ashes with steady use of weed, my mind would probably be changed.
I had a Chem prof in college that was a regular toker. Well respected dude, lot’s of published research, good grabber of grants for the university. A smart dude. If your classmates brains ‘turned to ashes’, it was probably due to other things besides dope. I prefer the company of stoned people to drunk people, personally.
Anyway, like I said – ask your Doctor which is worse for you, booze or pot.
Just one question, I would really appreciate if you would respond to -
Do you think the current level of punishment is reasonable for the crime? I’ll pick Illinois as a reference, since that is where our former toking future pres. prob did the crime:
Possession
30 to 500g (first offense) felony 1 – 3 years $25,000
Anyone who thinks Obama would be president with a felony on his record is dreaming. Lots more lives have been ruined by the legal consequences than by the act itself.
It ain’t right.
December 18th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Sarah,
Where are you living? You think kids care if pot is legal or not? Do you even have a clue what kids are doing these days? Much worse things than pot. Huffing, meth, etc.
the legal drinking age is 21. How many kids drink before they turn 21?
You have said before that you can’t legalize morality, and now that is exactly what you want to do. You want to take something that is a personal choice and make it illegal.
alcohol is a FAR worse drug on the body and society in general than pot.
And I am not selling out to another drug, that is a cop-out on your end. Ever had a family member die from cancer? Ever been close to someone dying from AIDS? Morphine don’t always cut it. Pot has amazing medicinal qualities and if I were dying from cancer I would want to use whatever eased my pain.
there are some things worse than dying, and hurting so bad that you want to die is one of them.
December 18th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Morphine don’t always cut it…whew what a sentence.
December 18th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Wow, and yet….I’m not changing my mind…yet.
Um Cara, I think it’s a harsh sentence for 6 joints, but not much of a sentence for a pound of the stuff.
December 18th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
T Mason: “You want to take something that is a personal choice and make it illegal.”
Next, perhaps you’ll see the light on legal abortion.
December 18th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Ladies,i enjoy your debate on this issue. Been through the scars of hardcore drug use. I will not sugarcoat this issue. Started drinking around 15 and now i am 54. Teens have been getting booze for years. My pot use , around 16. Out of places my hardcore drug use started in the Navy. Pot is the window for other drugs,but most people quit the harder stuff. Money and side affects. Pot needs to be legalize. I have stated in various post on cash fighting pot and pot being a leading cash crop. Our nation has lost the war on pot. Our nation is doing alot better on the war on terror. In fact,a helluva alot better. Damn near 1/4 of America has tried it and still using it from low lifes to lawyers and so forth. It,s every where ladies. Legalizing pot will fill up our LABOR FORCE. Pot in my opinion is the NO.1 FACTOR FOR A ILLEGAL WORK FORCE IN OUR NATION. DUE TO PISS TEST AND FELONS BECAUSE OF POT. Making it legal,the gov,t can fight hard drugs. I don,t want cocaine. It takes over your life. It kills and robs you as a person and the same with morphine. 3/4,s of the people locked up for pot would join the work force if this pot is legal. The same for people looking for jobs without a record. From low end jobs to high end jobs. This country is lacking a labor pool. THE MEDICAL FIELD IS 1 OF THEM. Under BUSH SR. OVER 200 BILLION WAS SPENT FIGHTING POT. That is madness money wise and no telling how much more money has been spent the last 16 years. Our nation has lost focus fighting a unwinable war on a weed that whole lot of people are using and will still used. IRAQ HAS NOTHING ON P O T!!!! MONEY WISE.
December 18th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
$200 billion was spent fighting more than just pot. And why? Because the American people create a huge demand for drugs. What irks me the most is when outfits like NORML try to make us sorry for people who are on public assistance, who get busted for drugs.
Steve, you might not want cocaine or morphine, but they won’t go away if pot is legalized. Instead, pot will became more prolific, and probably the use of harder drugs will become more attractive as well.
As Um Cara observed, his sister found it more convenient to proffer pot than buy him booze. Why? Pot is more easily concealable (you don’t need a cooler, and you burn the evidence), you can grow it (it IS a weed) for cheap, and fewer people do it now because it IS illegal.
I really find it difficult to feel sorry for all the people locked up in jail because they were caught with marijuana (I’d wager most of them weren’t picked up solely for pot, unless they were consuming, buying, or selling mass quantities of it. If they were selling it to kids under, say, 13 or 14, I’d appreciate it if they were executed on the spot).
One of the reasons this country is lacking a labor pool is because of the very escapism the American people are embracing.
Right now, I’d say “escapism” of any kind is precisely what our country DOESN’T need, whether it’s illegal or not. We need to quit the addictions (or borderline addictions) to shopping, gaming, gambling, Internet surfing, alcohol, drugs, food, etc., and become re-engaged in our society.
We have enough opportunities and alternatives for “fun” and escapism, to the point that it’s REALLY hurting our labor force.
December 18th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Hey, Um Cara….? *sigh* I have GOT to find out how to bolden, italicize, etc. What’s the link again, please?
December 18th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
MISS SARAH,people go to ballgames sober to escape. You can,t say escape. You need pot to escape. The labor pool is down due to folks in jail for pot only and alot of them. Would you take a piss test after smoking a joint? ILLEGALS are takin up that void. APLY FOR A JOB WITH FELON ON IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS? For the sake of it. Most people do not used hard drugs vs pot as well. It,s a war we have lost. Billins spent smoking a weed. Come on SARAH,atleast think about it.
December 18th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Steve: “Come on SARAH,atleast think about it.”
I could kiss you. My entire circle of family and friends accuse me of OVERTHINKING everything. And they’re right, I usually do, so my Sgt. Stadanko stance is what I’ve come up with. So far, anyway.
Anyway, “Would I take a piss test after smoking a joint?” Well, I probably wouldn’t smoke the joint in the first place, so the question doesn’t really fit me.
Incidentally, people might go to ballgames to escape, but it’s where entire families congregate… to watch juiced-up, overpaid athletes compete, many of whom are helping to create the demand for drugs that appeal to kids and their parents today.
The escapism of athletics and books is much more acceptable, and returns more to the moderate user, than the escapism of pot (or alcohol, etc.).
December 18th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
“T Mason: “You want to take something that is a personal choice and make it illegal.”
Next, perhaps you’ll see the light on legal abortion.”
Sarah:
I disagree with you on this issue but that was a beautiful shot.
PFKAM (poster formerly known as mark)
December 18th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
It’s all good, PFKAM/Mark, and thanks. I enjoy your signature posts, myself.
December 18th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
T Mason soft on pot… Sarah conservative on drug enforcement.
Black is white… white is black. What a topsy turvy, crazy upside down world.
December 18th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Baby, I’m so conservative, I’m liberal.
December 18th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
As Um Cara observed, his sister found it more convenient to proffer pot than buy him booze. Why? Pot is more easily concealable (you don’t need a cooler, and you burn the evidence), you can grow it (it IS a weed) for cheap, and fewer people do it now because it IS illegal.
Wasn’t my sister, sister of a buddy of mine. My cruel older sister wouldn’t help me buy beer. I returned her favor by never buying my nephews beer (or any other minor).
The reason it was easier to score was because of black market connections. There isn’t really a black market for cigarettes or booze (at the consumer level), because those are legal and regulated. If you ‘burn’ the evidence of pot, it’s going to take a while, and the cop is going to want to know why it smells like burned mattresses.
Um Cara, I think it’s a harsh sentence for 6 joints, but not much of a sentence for a pound of the stuff.
A pound is more dangerous than 6 joints? I’ll grant you, a 100 kilo bale of pot is pretty dangerous (that’s the old joke – the most dangerous thing about pot is if a bale of it falls on your head) I would certainly be in favor of OSHA regulations for people moving around bales of pot in a warehouse or something. Gotta keep those bales from breaking someone’s foot. (Of course if it did, smoking some would be a pretty good remedy for the pain, certainly better for them than a narcotic pain reliever)
What irks me the most is when outfits like NORML try to make us sorry for people who are on public assistance, who get busted for drugs.
Welfare queen pot heads? Seriously? Who are you Sarah? ;^) (I know I’m over emoting, just keeping it friendly).
you might not want cocaine or morphine, but they won’t go away if pot is legalized. Instead, pot will became more prolific, and probably the use of harder drugs will become more attractive as well.
Bah. The vast majority of folks who have smoked pot haven’t done the harder stuff. And as mentioned, if it were legal there would be a whole lot more resources to crack down on the serious stuff – like heroin, or running red lights.
You make pot almost sound cute.
I didn’t mean to – wasn’t going for that anyway. In Switzerland they sell it in little pillow/satchels that are supposed to be aromatic (i.e. it is a legal loophole to sell pot). I guess some of those satchels are cute. But wading through all those junkie potheads laying in their own excrement isn’t so cute. Just kidding, Switzerland is a beautiful country, w/ nary a junkie pot head to be found. (also, I think they cracked down on the aromatic satchel thing a while back, France is as hysterical about drug policy as the US, I think they browbeat the Swiss into cutting that out).
I really find it difficult to feel sorry for all the people locked up in jail because they were caught with marijuana (I’d wager most of them weren’t picked up solely for pot, unless they were consuming, buying, or selling mass quantities of it. If they were selling it to kids under, say, 13 or 14, I’d appreciate it if they were executed on the spot).
Nah, there are plenty of folks in jail for minor pot offenses. And I really don’t see what’s worse about having a quarter ounce, or a quarter pound. A five pound sack of coffee isn’t any more dangerous than a one pound can. Of course the caffeine is a very physically addictive drug and pot is not.
I’m not in favor of the death penalty for any crime, but sure – someone selling weed to a kid should be punished, just like folks who sell booze or cigarettes to minors. Not cool.
Baby, I’m so conservative, I’m liberal.
Not on this issue you aren’t, you aren’t coming across as rational on it – you definitely have some serious misinformation. –Those aren’t fighting words, I’d rather be having this disagreement face to face. Preferably over a nice legal bowl of high grade skunk ;^) (a double emote post, and I’m not even high)
December 18th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Sarah,
Hey, Um Cara….? *sigh* I have GOT to find out how to bolden, italicize, etc. What’s the link again, please?
I’ll tell you, but you have to promise to ask your doctor about the dangers of pot compared to the dangers of booze, deal? I wouldn’t take my word on it, I have an ax to grind (it drives me nuts that people are rotting in prison and have their lives ruined by the crazy legal consequences of using what is probably the least harmful intoxicant known to man).
Anyway… It’s just basic html, I am going to use () to enclose the code as opposed to greater than less than signs (because they won’t show up – just replace the parenthesis with the appropriate alligator mouth)
(b)bold(/b)
looks like this
(i)italics(/i)
looks like this
(blockquote)Is handy when you are quoting things
with
carriage
returns(/blockquote)
Blockquote looks like this:
Those are the ones I use, there may be others.
December 18th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Sarah,
If you are so worried about actions harming society, then maybe you should take your own advice and re-think the abortion issue. An actual INNOCENT human life is taken when an abortion is performed.
You are comparing drug use by persons who have the ability to make a decision for themselves. That unborn child doesn’t get a choice do they?
December 18th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Got it!
December 18th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
PFKAM—Replace the parenthesis with a less than sign and a greater than sign.
December 18th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Sorry. Too late. Good job figuring it out.
December 18th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
bold
December 18th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
. It’s really Mark. I had to change my name because there was another Mark posting and he was ruining my liberal reputation.
Sincerely,
PFKAM
(poster formerly known as mark)
December 18th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
I meant to say Hi TRA
December 18th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Dammit UM I was gonna give ya some crap on the violet thing… using Violet who? or color? I was thinking it was petty pointing out a typo.. lol now I wont be so nice since you reread your posts my friend. haha Sarah thanks for calling me a good egg on the other post, Dads do what dads do no pat on back necessary.
December 19th, 2008 at 1:46 am
Love to see this debate go on while i was gone. I love all of you and SARAH i,ll take that kiss.
December 19th, 2008 at 2:08 am
I would totally blaze with Obama, Biden and T Mason! Obama looks great in the photo as usual!
December 19th, 2008 at 9:46 am
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December 23rd, 2008 at 6:22 am