Anti-Choicers Upset With Obama Commencement Invite To Notre Dame
Groups like the Cardinal Newman Society (an orthodox Catholic group) and Operation Rescue want Notre Dame to rescind an invitation to President Obama to address the graduating class this year.
The Cardinal Newman Society, an advocacy group for greater orthodoxy on Catholic college and university campuses, has set up a protest Web page, notredamescandal.com, that includes the phone number, e-mail and mailing addresses of Notre Dame’s president, the Rev. John Jenkins.
The group calls Obama’s upcoming commencement appearance “an outrage and a scandal.”
Jenkins says that just because you invite the president, it doesn’t mean you endorse all his policies. Bishops around the country have warned Catholic colleges about honoring lawmakers who disagree with church teachings on issues like abortion and stem-cell research. And even anti-choicers like Randall Terry of Operation Rescue have interjected themselves into this fracas.
I thought college is supposed to teach individuals to think for themselves, use powers of discernment, and be open to discussing and debating all points of view. And Obama would be the ninth president to address the graduating class and receive a honorary degree.
Ronald Reagan addressed Notre Dame and he was divorced (and his wife, Nancy, supports stem cell research). GHW Bush addressed Notre Dame even though he carried out Desert Storm. Bush Jr. also waged a war that the Vatican denounced, yet he still addressed graduates at Notre Dame without a peep from this outfit.
Perhaps we should thank God the Vatican has more sense than some of its bishops. Hopefully, it will see fit to bring the rest of its flock in line, a la Savonarola’s Florence during the Renaissance.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Why not,let the president be the president and address the graduates of ND IRISH.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
The radical religious right doesn’t want education. They don’t want universities. They want madrassas. They want radicalized students to feed the military-corporate industrial complex.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
True RC on your post and true Jared,this is a non story. Every president does a address somewhere and they do it 24/7.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
RC,
Isn’t that what extremist muslims want?
March 24th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
And the entire football team is pro life full blooded Irish, no?
March 24th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
What part of baby-killers should not speak at a Catholic university don’t you get, Alan?
March 24th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
After I posted the above comment I remembered how, in 1992, Gov. Casey of Pennsylvania, was prohibited from speaking at the Democrat convention that year. So all you people who are complaining about Catholics not wanting this monster from talking on a Catholic campus are nothing but hypocrites.
March 24th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
No Jared, this is really interesting actually. GORGEOUS campus fyi.
ND is a BASTION of Catholic money in a flat poor stupid state and they ARE educated. So this will be the worst of the leftover rightwingers, all huff no puff but should be interesting.
The only Black Catholics there are on the football team, LOTS of em.
Garysbio. Bush2 and Cheney have FAR more baby blood on their hands than Obama.
Ask any Iraqi.
March 24th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
And REMEMBER Obama is 3.4% Irish!
March 24th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
“Notre Dame’s President Jenkins saying just because you invite the president, it doesn’t mean you endorse all his policies”
This is the clear and present difference between a zealot and a thinking religious person. A zealot wants to keep all thought that might challenge something they believe away from anyone and everyone involved in what they are involved away from free thought and expression.
Just invite=ing someone or treating them with due respect is hardly a sounding approval of their opinions. Do you all need to dance backwards to Rick Warren and Barack Obama? Golden oldies of news stories by now but … come on.
March 24th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
And REMEMBER Obama is 3.4% Irish!
POSTED BY 4MOREYEARS
I am about that much Native American.
Guess I can talk about the white man settling on my land and taking away the Great Spirit from the land with his guns and his trains.
Hehehehe. I like this one:
“Native American’s have been defending Homeland Security since 1842.”
Damn straight!
March 24th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
“You be da man EricG! ”
(michele bachmann MN06, current day McCarthy Anti-American Congress hunter).
March 24th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Thx! I try!
March 24th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Oh yeah! You just reminded me. I’m going to call for her resignation from Congress. What a … low intelligence American.
Trying to be nicer but still effective blogger these days.
(maybe calling people ***** is not the best way to go about things after all)
March 24th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
If this is the way you want to run Catholic universities, then don’t allow non-Catholic students in. If you are trying to cater to the general public and not just Catholics, then you can’t force Catholicism on your students. Plus, since when has ANY president agreed with everything the Church teaches?
March 24th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
If this is the way you want to run Catholic universities, then don’t allow non-Catholic students in. If you are trying to cater to the general public and not just Catholics, then you can’t force Catholicism on your students. Plus, since when has ANY president agreed with everything the Church teaches?
Posted by michael
There is no point in not accepting non catholic students…and I don’t know much of anything about catholic universities…but I did attend a religious school and all students were expected to live the honor code and could and were expelled for violating it…just not those that proscribe to the faith.
If you want to argue that point…why would a non-catholic want to go to a catholic school…and then expect that school to tolerate your anti-catholicism.
It’s good to point out that they are protesting to the president of Notre Dame not the President of the United States…I would think Catholics would expect the ordained head of a Catholic university to invite commencement speakers that believe or at least don’t proscribe to a direct violation of Catholicism…
michael Reply:
March 25th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Lots of non-Catholics attend universities with Catholic affiliations, mostly because there are many out there (Georgetown and Boston College among them) that offer an outstanding secular education. My dad works at one such school and they accept students of all races, backgrounds, genders, sexual orientations, and, yes, even religious beliefs (or none at all). Even if a university has an affiliation with a religious organization, if it wishes to be a great university, it has to cater to the general public and the general good of society rather than just a segment of the population. Most non Catholics are happy to learn about Catholicism, just as long as its beliefs and practices are not forced on them.
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
March 25th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
of course they do…but then are they shocked that a priest is walking around? that was my point…sure a non-catholic can go to a catholic school, but they must understand that if they preach out against catholicism there will be some sort of repercussion. Just because there is a secular education available at Notre Dame doesn’t mean that those catholics in attendance should bend their will to the complete secularization of it’s code of conduct.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Barack Obama does condon what has taken the lives of 50,000,000 (million) innocent lives since Roe-V-Wade.
He does condon the creation of life in order to destroy that life in the name of science.
He does support and condon the killing of babies who are born alive after a botched abortion.
He does support and condon late term abortions where the fetus is delivered all but the head and then thrusts a pair of scissors into the base of the baby’s skull in order to murder the innocent life.
Sure, he can speak at Notre Dame. What’s the problem?
Jesus said, whatever you do to the least of these you do to me.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Aborted fetuses are murder victims. However, American troops and Iraqi civilians killed in an war for profit are called “collateral damage”. See the difference?
March 24th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Barack Obama does condon what has taken the lives of 50,000,000 (million) innocent lives since Roe-V-Wade. He does condon the creation of life in order to destroy that life in the name of science. He does support and condon the killing of babies who are born alive after a botched abortion. He does support and condon late term abortions where the fetus is delivered all but the head and then thrusts a pair of scissors into the base of the baby’s skull in order to murder the innocent life.
And I support it too. Because, after hearing this for the umpteenth time, I realized I just don’t give a damn any more. And I especially don’t give a damn about any quotes from the so-called “holy” “bible.” There was never a book more irrelevant to the lives of the majority of the human race.
___________________________________________
“Jesus said, whatever you do to the least of these you do to me.”
We do it to everybody. What’s the problem?
Hell, half the economy is based on manufacturing the implements of war and destruction. That’s how worried we are about sucking up to Jesus.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
BIG DIFFERENCE TDRO. When you see evil sometimes it takes a war to defeat it. I have said this a million times but sometimes war is necessary. Unfortunate but necessary. Otherwise you and I would be speaking Japanese or German today as our national language. But of course I don’t think you would mind. You abhor violence. You would sit and negotiate with the man who is raping your wife or the murderer who is killing your family?
Anyhow, I don’t see any evil in the babies that are being murdered an a daily basis. Those innocent, defenseless babies who never harmed anyone and who never asked to be in that situation in the first place. YES THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE. To bad you can’t see it. I feel for you. I pray for you.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I will say a prayer for you tonight too RC. God loves you.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
RC
There was never a book more irrelevant to the lives of the majority of the human race.
HUH? All of the “look at how sexy you can be” magazines are relevant? All of the “look at how glorified gang life can be” music is relevant? All of the sex scenes in movies are relevant? All of the “escapes from consequences” programs this world has are relevant?
In an age of excess, personal gratification, self-indulgence, greed, “do what you have to do in order to get ahead”, “I live for me”, etc…a book that has clear moral delineations is more relevant today than ever before: service before self, honesty and integrity…
What’s so irrelevant?
flap Reply:
March 25th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Jared, you don’t read from “It’s All About ME” magazine, then? ;)
Libs unfortunately dislike moral absolutes. That’s the issue. The alternative is “might makes right” and amoral chaos.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
RC, I agree with Jared…if everyone tried to live the 10 commandments or the sermon on the mount, don’t you think the world would be a better place? Even if they didn’t believe in Jesus or God, Allah or the flying spaghetti monster?
March 24th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
GUIDO,
I think this is a first for the two of us, isn’t it? We agree on something?
First it was VEGASLIB, and now GUIDO…two in one day??? I think I’m done for the day!
hahaha…
March 24th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Willy:
Yep. Save the fetus/kill the child. That’s the ticket!
You’re absolutely right! These rape and incest victims should be forced to have their babies! That way, when they grow up, they can be sent to die in a war for profit!
I mean, we should really punish these parents by having the children they’ve raised and loved come home in a body bag, right?
I have an idea! Make abortion illegal. That way desperate women can go to disreputable sources to have the procedure done. And when both the mother and child die from complications, you’d have a two-fer!
Here’s something better! Force the women to have the babies and leave them in garbage cans in sub zero weather! How about when the child is 2 years old, the mother (who didn’t want the child in the first place) can beat the child to death.
Yes. I’m a pacifist and proud of it. I abhore violence and war and I feel negotiation is much better than your “kill first, ask questions later” mindset.
Too bad you can’t see that killing post-born people is wrong.
“Save the fetus/kill the baby”, is that it Willy.
flap Reply:
March 25th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
“I abhor violence” as long as it does not take place 2 minutes before a baby slides through a birth canal. Then it is a “choice” to gruesomely slaughter nascent human life.
I don’t necessarily disagree with a lot of what you say about war. War is hell. A lot of war is probably unnecessary. Heck, Pat Buchanan thinks we could have stayed out of WWII.
But there’s a HUGE difference between premeditated killing of bad guys and premeditated killing of innocents (unborn children).
TDro319 Reply:
March 26th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Who are the bad guys? Iraq civilians? First of all, many abortions are not performed after the first trimester. Second of all, you don’t know the circumstances which would force the mother to have a third-trimester abortion.
I’ll tell you one thing. I’ve seen parents suffer horribly when their child came home in a body bag.
The difference in premeditated killing is one has already been born and one has not.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
If anyone is interested in this go to notredamescandal.com
Then read it and if you wish sign the petition.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Willy:
I saw a movie last month. It was called “Taking Chance” and it was on HBO. That broke my heart and I haven’t cried in years. Although I’m sure it would have no effect on you whatsoever. After all, it wasn’t about an aborted fetus.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
“Hell, half the economy is based on manufacturing the implements of war and destruction. That’s how worried we are about sucking up to Jesus.”
Amen to that, RC.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
So while your family is being murdered you just sit there and do nothing? Am I right TDRO? You would not lift a finger to save you own family?
March 24th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Jared…I think we’re more alike than different…I don’t think this is a first.
I guess I don’t fit in anywhere…the libs hate me…the cons hate me…woe is me.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Willy:
My family is not being murdered. I won’t let Dick Cheney in my house.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Guido:
I love you! I love Brian because he’s not a homophobe and love you because you don’t like torture.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
“…Gov. Casey of Pennsylvania, was prohibited from speaking at the Democrat convention that year.”
NOT because he was anti-abortion.
He was refused a speaking slot because he didn’t support the party candidate.
Nothing more.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
“Barack Obama does condon what has taken the lives of 50,000,000 (million) innocent lives since Roe-V-Wade.
He does condon the creation of life in order to destroy that life in the name of science.
He does support and condon the killing of babies who are born alive after a botched abortion.
He does support and condon late term abortions where the fetus is delivered all but the head and then thrusts a pair of scissors into the base of the baby’s skull in order to murder the innocent life.”
You’d think the wacky right would get tired of posting these lies.
Obama does not condone any of those.
What he DOES condone is the RIGHT to, and FREEDOM to, make your own decisions.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Unless that would be an innocent unborn baby. They have no freedom. They cannot decide.
TDro319 Reply:
March 26th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
…or unless you happen to be an Iraqi child killed in this senseless war. I guess they have no freedom and cannot decide. Unfortunately, it appears their parents also have no freedom and cannot decide.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
notredamescandal.com
check it out, sign the petition. Over 83,000 signatures so far.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Hey everybody, TDRO would not even defend his own family from an intruder into his home. What do you think about those apples?
March 24th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
He would stand there and watch while you were being assaulted on the street.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Willy:
you’re so childish.
March 24th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Would you defend your own family TDRO? Would you?
March 24th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
That’s notredamescandal.com
Log on. Sign the petition to stop Obama from speaking at Notre Dames graduation ceremonies.
83,000 signatures and counting.
March 24th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Willy:
Boy, you’re just praying my family gets attacked, aren’t you?
Now, if you will excuse me, I’m leaving to go volunteer at the VA. We liberals are just such bleeding hearts, aren’t we? Always helping those lazy asses who are just sucking every hard-earned dime out of you. When will we ever learn?
Oh by the way, last halloween our bat sh*t crazy neighbor gave kids pictures of aborted fetuses instead of candy. Needless to say, since she didn’t realize that you don’t stiff kids on halloween, her house got trashed by the kids and she was arrested. She has since moved, and we couldn’t be happier. I hope she moved by you. Then both of you can pass out trash like that at halloween! You’d make a great pair!
flap Reply:
March 25th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
What’s wrong with passing out pictures of “tissue,” TDro? Seems perfectly reasonable to me since that “tissue” isn’t human and has no rights.
TDro319 Reply:
March 26th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Unless you screw kids on halloween by giving them pictures of tissue instead of candy.
March 24th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
I am agreeing more with Willy ALL the time. MORE DICK!
Palin/Bachmannl 2012
Because the Raped Must Birth
March 24th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Willy:
You’re just praying for my family to be attacked aren’t you? Taking your pointers from John Bolton I see. You remember him, don’t you? He’s the one praying that Chicago gets nuked. Keep the hate going Willy. It makes us peaceniks look real good!
March 24th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
I pray that yours or anyones family never gets attacked.
But you cannot answer a simple question TDRO. I would fight to my death or the death of the attackers to save my family. By your non-answer I take that you wouldn’t. Why can’t liberals answer a simple question.
Would you protect your family TDRO??? Would you?
March 24th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
The mindset of some conservatives, constantly on the lookout for their ‘family gittin attacked’, or fantasizing about what they would do in the event it occurred.
Very strange.
March 24th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Willy:
You said, “By your non-answer I take that you wouldn’t.”
Will you quit wishing my family harm? I don’t wish anything bad to happen to your family and I don’t even KNOW you.
But then again, I’m a liberal and we just don’t wish for horrible things like that. We wish for world peace, love, brotherhood,. You know, crazy liberal crap like that.
March 24th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Um said: The mindset of some conservatives, constantly on the lookout for their ‘family gittin attacked’, or fantasizing about what they would do in the event it occurred. Very strange.
K: Those of us with families wish to protect them, Um. Whats wrong with that?
March 24th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
“Very strange.” I don’t think so. Conservatives believe in self defense. In today’s society it is much more apt to happen Cara. TDRO would not defend his family from all the post he has written in the past. He doesn’t have the courage to answer my very simple question. Do you?
March 24th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Gosh TDRO, I am not wishing your family harm.
If you saw me and my family being attacked, harmed by a thug would you jump in to help us out or just stand there and watch and try to talk to the attacker?
There, I am talking about my family now TDRO. Would you help us fight off the attacker?
March 24th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Willy, you really need to stop this. It’s becoming an obsession with you. Your hoping my family gets killed is driving you batty! Lighten up!
And I STILL don’t wish for your family to be killed.
March 24th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Would you step in to help my family TDRO?? Would you???
Have the courage to answer this question and I will go on. Just a simple yes or no.
March 24th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
When did I say I wanted your family to be killed? That is hogwash and you know it TDRO. Typical liberal, new left tactics.
March 24th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
CHECKMATE TDRO.
March 24th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
One last comment TDRO. I would lay down my life to save you and your family if I saw you in trouble.
March 24th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Once again that is notredamescandal.com to sign the petition to Notre Dames President to keep Obama from speaking there.
notredamescandal.com
March 24th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Willy:
Yes. I would help your family if they were in harm’s way and/or if they were being attacked. Although I wouldn’t want to kill the intruder. Just incapacitate him.
That’s what you so lovingly call “typical liberal new left tactics”. ;)
March 24th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Was that so hard TDRO? I wouldn’t intentionally kill an intruder unless that was the only way to stop them. I am not a murderer as you so easily proclaim. I would never wish harm on you or your family as you claimed I would. I wish there never had to be war. I wish all countries could get along peaceably.
I would not call myself a pacifist, but maybe a realist. An optimist.
So we agree on this. Good.
March 24th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Willy:
I never said you were a murderer. I said you advocate murder when you cheerlead Bush’s unnecessary war. Big difference.
March 24th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
>> If this is the way you want to run Catholic universities, then don’t allow non-Catholic students in. If you are trying to cater to the general public and not just Catholics, then you can’t force Catholicism on your students. Plus, since when has ANY president agreed with everything the Church teaches? <<
We still have freedom of religion although I know getting rid of that is high on Obama’s plate but no one forced non-Catholics to attend Notre Dame. They did so of their own free choice. Their presence does not mean that we have to alter our teachings. If they don’t like it, I hope the door doesn’t bang them in the butt. In the mean time stop trying to force your disgusting practices on the Church. It is Obama, after all, who wants to end the conscience clause on abortion. He wants to force Catholic doctors and nurses to act against their own beliefs. Since he’s a fascist, that doesn’t surprise me.
March 24th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Gee Willy, how many cups of coffee have you drank tonight? Relax.
I suspect TDRO wouldn’t answer your question because it was so obvious what the answer was. Did you really think the man wouldn’t defend his own family? Because he opposes war?
March 24th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
” Since he’s a fascist, that doesn’t surprise me.”
Obama’s a facist?!?!? Where have you been living for the past 8 years?
March 24th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
In the 1300th century.
March 24th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
There was never a book more irrelevant to the lives of the majority of the human race.
“…a book that has clear moral delineations is more relevant today than ever before: service before self, honesty and integrity… What’s so irrelevant?”
The bible is irrelevant because no one lives by it.
People are great at telling everybody else what to do and how to live their lives and what’s right and what’s holy and all the rest of the crap. But the moment they’re done preaching and singing songs they drop a quarter in the collection plate and go right back to planning who they’re going to screw and how much money they’re going to make.
Jesus would puke at the way most Christians live, because, despite all the BS, actually living a Christian life isn’t even on most people’s radar screen.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:12 am
RC,
That’s a pretty sad outlook…I really like how you demonize every single christian in the world based on the faults of a few.
Truth is, nobody’s perfect…even those who say they are…forgiveness is an integral part of what the bible teaches, and it’s an integral part of what makes the world go-round. Is that irrelevant? Is taking care of your neighbor irrelevant? Is believing in something/someone bigger than yourself irrelevant? Is patience irrelevant? Is humility irrelevant?
Maybe I should ask “what is relevant”? What, in your mind, should be the standard by which we live our lives?
By the way, churches are the world’s largest beneficiary of donations of any charitable cause. I don’t think they’d get there with just a “quarter” in the collection plate.
flap Reply:
March 25th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
You forgot “QED”! BAM!
March 25th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Funny how those who say every Christian judges everyone else, are themselves judging Christians.
Sarah Reply:
March 25th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Well, Bliss, maybe we’re following the Christian tenet of “do unto Christians as they do unto us.”
Apparently, moderate/liberal Christians and non-Christians just can’t win with you guys.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:40 am
RC, after listening to Don Wildmon’s American Family Radio lately, I’m chagrined to say, you’re absolutely right. The Christian faith HAS been more perverted than it is right now, but unfortunately, it’s usually not been purged without a lot of blood and spiritual carnage.
Your “madrassa” analogy is becoming less and less of an exaggeration. Christian nut-jobs are beginning to act like jihadists-light.
Incidentally, Willy, JESUS tells us to turn the other cheek. JESUS tells us to put Him before our family members. JESUS is the one who, if he were here, would be shocked that his followers are so hell-bent on acquiring Uzis and making sure that criminals and the mentally ill can easily acquire guns.
I’d have to agree with everyone who says the Bible is not completely infallible (all the divorced churchgoers would probably agree). It might be inspired by god, but we all know how fallible a stenographer Man is, and frankly, over the centuries, the text has been ground up, rolled over, wadded up, marked up and fattened up with just about every kind of political machination the clergy could dream up.
Incidentally, there’s a great Christian charity group called “Wall Watchers” online. Their 30 worst offenders would surprise quite a few uber-Christians, I would imagine.
March 25th, 2009 at 11:00 am
No gun advocate wants to make it easy for criminals and the mentally ill to obtain weapons. It doesn’t matter HOW MANY laws you pass criminals will get weapons. When’t the last time you saw a criminal say “darn it, gotta do another background check. I guess I won’t buy that gun today.”
flap Reply:
March 25th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Just ONE more law, Blissful. PLEEEEEASE? Maybe it’ll do the trick if we make law abiding citizens wait even longer for their guns.
Sarah Reply:
March 25th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Gee, and all this time I thought the National Rifle Association was a gun advocate that regularly fought against gun control and restriction to access.
In my area, you don’t even have to register firearms anymore.
It DOES matter how many gun laws you pass, and how many gun laws are repealed. They greatly impact the ease with which criminals or the mentally unstable can get guns.
March 25th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Jesus wasn’t a Christian, and it’s likely he would want nothing to do with them if he ever did come back.
March 25th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
are you the mouthpiece of Jesus?
March 25th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
“There has been only one Christian. They caught him and crucified him–early.”
Mark Twain – Notebook, 1898
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
March 25th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
quirky quote from Twain…what was the context?
March 25th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Sometimes sanctimony really bothers me.
The sanctimonious know who they are.
How about:
“The idea that America is a Christian nation? Andrew Carnegie brought that up to him once. “Why, Carnegie,” Twain answered, “so is Hell.”
March 25th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Why is
“Sarah on Anti-Choicers Upset With Obama Commencement Invite To Notre Dame: Gee, and all this time I thought the…”
up as the most recent comment, but it is NOT most recent comment?
I don’t know who is replying to who, said, what, huh?
Sarah Reply:
March 25th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Because at that time, it WAS the most recent comment, it just wasn’t at the bottom of this thread, because I hit the “reply” button.
Unless I missed something or misunderstand your meaning…
(Not sure I’m a fan of this either…Or maybe it takes getting used to…)
March 25th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
This is confusing for a country hick like myself. Reply and your post moves up.
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
March 25th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Willy, you can now reply directly to a comment and it shows up below that comment (or thread of that offshoot comment) if you click on the reply it will reply to that comment. If you want to show up at the bottom click on or use the leave a comment box at the bottom…I also just found out that you can type up your response in the bottom field then click reply and it will move your typing to the new reply field.
This way tangent conversations can be kept out of the comment stream and replys to comments are grouped together for easy reading…it does have it’s drawbacks, but if everyone uses it properly it should make everything group together nicely.
willy Reply:
March 25th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Thanks Guido. It’ll take a little getting used to but that’s ok. You don’t learn anything new if you never try anything new.
Thanks again.
March 25th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
I think you said something at one time about living in Missouri, Sarah??
http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/a/gunlaws_mo.htm
Maybe your state should play catch up with states that require a background check at time of purchase? My state actually requires a background check then, background check and fingerprinting when applying for permit to carry.
With your logic, we should punish people who LAWFULLY own and carry weapons because criminals choose to NOT follow the laws already in place.
I did notice in Missouri you aren’t supposed to buy, sale, or be in posession of a firearm if a convicted felon. Imagine that. Wonder why the criminals don’t follow that law?
Maybe we should also prohibit alcohol since some knuckleheads ignore the law by getting drunk, operating a motor vehicle (weapon) and sometimes killing innocent people??
That is IF we follow your logic.
March 25th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Anyone having problems with their posts showing up?
March 25th, 2009 at 4:15 pm