Rudy Avoids Gay Roomates’ Wedding
When things weren’t go so well in his marriage to Donna Hanover, Rudy Giuliani lived with two gay men, Howard Koeppel (left in photo) and Mark Hsaio. They got married this weekend in Connecticut, and invited their former rommie to be part of the small group of attendees.
“Rudy and Judith were both invited with a beautiful written invitation by mail,” said Koeppel. “His secretary called Thursday and said he was not able to come to the wedding and wished us all the best.”
Koeppel once quipped that Giuliani was a perfect roommate who “always made his bed” and “called me mother.”
At the time, Giuliani ducked the question about whether living with a gay couple had changed his longstanding opposition to gay marriage.
“I don’t relate to people as white, black, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, gay, lesbian, heterosexual,” the then-mayor told reporters at Gracie Mansion.
Giuliani has vowed to speak out agianst gay marriage if he runs for governor of New York.
Most gays are so much smarter than the average Bubba the northeast can’t lose by passing same-sex marriage laws, and New York should pass a law now.
EricG Reply:
May 3rd, 2009 at 3:02 pm
I agree. We are going to repeal our ban on gay marriage here in CA. I will see to it myself.
Daddio Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 8:10 am
The voters amended your state constitution Eric. How are you going to repeal it? You will need another amendment to your state constitution. Your state supreme court didn’t overturn it because of that.
You can try, but I won’t wish you luck.
JaredfromTexas Reply:
May 3rd, 2009 at 11:42 pm
ROCKY,
Most gays are so much smarter than the average Bubba
…sigh…sometimes you just have to let the idiocy speak for itself…
Rocky the Liberal Rottweiler Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 1:42 am
Like you would know.
RDM Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Do it now; hurry. I hope the whole Northeast passes same sex marriage laws. What are they waiting for? Pass the law. Hurry, Hurry, Hurry. Give Bubba something else to laugh at the North about.
blissfulconservative Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
So there aren’t any gays who are bubba’s or southern?? Wow. I am shocked.
May 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 pm
“”Giuliani has vowed to speak out agianst gay marriage if he runs for governor of New York.”"
Thanks the gods!
Someone needs to put their well-shod foot down and stand up for freedom! There’s a wind that’s a’blowin’ – a “gay” wind – and Rudy is just the champion America needs to stand up for the sacred institution of marriage!
C’mon Mr. Guiliani, the tides of change are starting to wash upon our hallowed shores of decency, in a great flood of gayness, and you’re just the man to step forward and put your foot in it!
May 3rd, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Good for Rudy.
OldLefty Reply:
May 3rd, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Good old Rudi always knew how to put politics ahead of principles.
blissfulconservative Reply:
May 3rd, 2009 at 3:40 pm
He put his principles first obviously. If he doesn’t agree with gay marriage and chose not to go for that reason he wasn’t playing politics. That’s called actually standing for what you believe in.
OldLefty Reply:
May 3rd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
He clearly gave up his principles when he decided to curry favor with the far right wing base, as did most of the GOP.
Daddio Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 8:15 am
Blissful, According to liberals only Republicans and conservatives do things for political expediency. The liberal never does anything for politics. they are all about principle. Yeah right, and when it rains it rains from the ground up.
That is all horse hockey!!!!!
blissfulconservative Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 10:03 am
I see. If he stands for what he believes in which is marriage between a man and woman then he is currying favor to the right wing base. But if a liberal attends a gay wedding ceremony then they are standing up for what they believe in.
Double standard? Yep. Ignorant observance? Yep.
TDro319 Reply:
May 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
I say, “keep it up, Rudy! The country is taking a more tolerant stance in favor of gay marriage and your antiquated beliefs that gays are not entitled to the same rights as straight people will surely hand the election to a liberal”.
EricG Reply:
May 3rd, 2009 at 3:01 pm
???
So you just want to support gay-bashing? Is that it?
Would you say ‘good for him’ if he ditched out on a straight wedding? I doubt it.
TDro319 Reply:
May 3rd, 2009 at 7:53 pm
What I meant to say, EricG, is Rudy should keep up his stance on a dying principal. If Giuliani chooses to speak out against gay marriage, he will surely lose the election to a more liberal democrat or independent.
blissfulconservative Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Of course!! As long as a liberal cow tows to every pop culture “what’s cool” “what’s hip now”, “what’s in”, “what’s popular”, he’s sure to get elected??
Wow. I thought politicians were supposed to have a backbone?
OldLefty Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 10:16 am
“Of course!! As long as a liberal cow tows to every pop culture “what’s cool” “what’s hip now”, “what’s in”, “what’s popular”, he’s sure to get elected??
Wow. I thought politicians were supposed to have a backbone?”
………………………
What liberals are doing that?
I think Rudi has shown that he HAS no spine.
And whoever thought that politicians were supposed to have a backbone?
Liberals have been complaining about Democrats for years now.
blissfulconservative Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 10:37 am
If this had been a “story” about a politician NOT attending his friend’s heterosexual wedding we would never hear about it.
Have you ever NOT attended a wedding you were invited to?
OldLefty Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Daddio said,
Blissful, According to liberals only Republicans and conservatives do things for political expediency. The liberal never does anything for politics. they are all about principle. Yeah right, and when it rains it rains from the ground up.
……………………………………
Nobody says that except the right.
Daddio Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 8:35 am
I know this is a liberal blog but I hear VERY LITTLE criticism when a liberal does something for political gain. It is usually spun to make it seem like it was done on principle.
OldLefty Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 8:49 am
If you look at NYT, David Sirota, Young Turks, Tom Hartmann, even a few of Olbermann’s commentaries, have been very critical.
Many liberals on THIS site spend most of their time defending Obama against charges of being a radical right wing Muslim Christian Marxist who was not born here.
blissfulconservative Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Old, everyone on the left says the same dear.
OldLefty Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Eeveryone on the left says that Obama is Muslim Christian Marxist who was not born here?
May 3rd, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Did he at least send a gift? He should know where they are registered.
May 3rd, 2009 at 1:08 pm
What kind of things can we expect the Rude to say in defence of a good moral ‘christian’ marraiage?
That gay getting married will tie up the church so when he wants his next of 4 ceremonies there may be a waiting list?
LOl, what a joke…
May 3rd, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Sorry for the OT, but can anyone tell me how to change my password for logging into this site?
OldLefty Reply:
May 3rd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Lily,
It asks you if you ‘forgot your password?’ then you can get a new one….I don’t know to customise it though.
baD mR fRosTy Reply:
May 3rd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
at the bottom of the “edit profile’ page
Lily Reply:
May 3rd, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Thanks much.
May 3rd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Rudy may run, but he can’t hide. Social conservatives will chew this puppy up. Besides, if he can’t have a sentence with noun, verb, and 9/11 in it, what kind of platform could he develop?
May 3rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Giuliani would say he hates white people and they shouldn’t get married if he thought it would earn him some votes. The man is not worth the rug he was dragged in on.
May 3rd, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Guiliani is just trying to up his PR for talk shows and books. The idea that he could EVER hold office again after his 2008 no-starter presidential bid is ridiculous.
Remember his pick Bernard Kerik for Homeland Security Chief?!
Where his mistress lived after 9/11.
Shameful, cajone-less and isn’t loyal to REAL friends who took him in during a personal crisis. Shame.
Danielle Reply:
May 3rd, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Speaking of loyalty….didn’t his ex-wife (the last one) find out that her husband was leaving her (for another woman) by watching him talk about it on TV?!?!? Geez..you’d think he’d have the decency to give her a heads up before announcing it on TV.
This man’s own children won’t even speak to him.
Danielle Reply:
May 3rd, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Seems to me that he needs all the friends he got.
May 3rd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Somebody ask him if he’s ever committed a “homo sapien” act.
May 3rd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
I’ve always wondered what ‘exactly made this unpleasant little thrice married adulterer “America’s mayor” anyway. He stood up on his little elevator shoes surrounded by burly police officers and shoook his umbrella at some unseen, unknown enemy, and encouraged everyone to go out and spend their savings and rack up their high-interest credit cards to “save NYC”?!
You’re going to defeat the terrorists by buying $800 ‘designer’ handbags made in Malaysia, and a slightly cracked Lady Di plate off Ebay?
People were desperate for a hero, of any stripe, and since their commander-in-chief had summed it up thusly ” …and I saw an airplane hit the tower – the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, ‘There’s one terrible pilot.”
With that type of deep insight coming from DubYa, I suppose Rudi did as well as any for “leadership”…
And now to hear that the angry little priapic dwarf is going to “speak out” against the right of 30,000,000 of his fellow Americans to enjoy the same right to a loving relationship as the rest?
That takes the cake, it really does…
“That’s one terrible pilot!”
Good grief.
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May 4th, 2009 at 5:58 am
Rudy is only saving face on this 1 for having gay friends,but has failed,running from the truth.
May 4th, 2009 at 8:25 am
blissfulconservative
If this had been a “story” about a politician NOT attending his friend’s heterosexual wedding we would never hear about it.
Have you ever NOT attended a wedding you were invited to?
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{I have NO idea where to reply}
If this were a story about a pro gay, ANTI hetero marriage politician who lived with a hetro couple when he needed help, and did not go to their wedding because it was not PC with HIS base, it would get as much or more coverage from the right.
May 4th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Old
I disagree completely. I have never seen media coverage related to which weddings politicians do or do not attend.
Now, have you ever NOT attended a wedding that you were invited to?
OldLefty Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 11:03 am
This not just that he didn’t show up, I think the media coverage (especially local), IS warrented when he lived with them, AND gay marriage is an issue in his party.
blissfulconservative Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Yes it is that he didn’t show up. The last time I checked we are free to attend or not attend events. Right? I guess not.
Like I said, if this had been his heterosexual friend who got married this wouldn’t be reported. I notice the above post didn’t say WHY he couldn’t/didn’t attend. YOU and others want to label him anti-gay or a bigot because YOU want to judge.
OldLefty Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Of couse you are free to attend or not attend events, (another strawman argument), but when you are a politician, who took helped from people when you needed them, and did not attend because it would offend your base, the press is free to point it out.
Like I said, If this were a story about a pro gay, ANTI hetero marriage politician who lived with a hetro couple when he needed help, and did not go to their wedding because it was not PC with HIS base, it would get as much or more coverage from the right.
May 4th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Old
It is YOUR opinion that is why he didn’t attend. Where has he said that?
And it isn’t a strawman argument. If you want politicians to have a backbone, that means they should be able to choose to be on the opposite end of the spectrum than you and NOT be demonized for it.
Robert Blair Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
You are right…we won’t demonize them…we’ll ignore them and vote for someone else.
OldLefty Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
I see no evidence that he has a backbone OR that he is on the opposite end od the spectrum from me.
Asa USA Today said in Feb of 07:
“The question is this: Can the thrice-married New Yorker — a supporter of abortion rights, gay rights and gun control — win the nomination of a Republican Party that has become increasingly dependent on and influenced by socially conservative Christians?”
blissfulconservative Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
According to you and other liberals Christianity is dying. So what the heck are you worried about?
OldLefty Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Who said anything about Christianity dying?
And when was there ever a connection between Christianity and the Republican party??
Sarah Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
“And when was there ever a connection between Christianity and the Republican party??”
Ahh…That’s the Question of The Ages…
trees are people too Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Jon Meachem at Newsweek……….fyi
blissfulconservative Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Old you claim that guiliani is pandering to the right wing base. You also claim that the right wing base is full of Christians. SOOOO it doesn’t take an Einstein (or maybe it does) to figure out the two are intertwined.
Sarah Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
“If you want politicians to have a backbone, that means they should be able to choose to be on the opposite end of the spectrum than you and NOT be demonized for it.”
Waaaaaaaah! “Stop exercising your freedom of speech! You HAVE to agree with me, or else you’re violating my right to be superior all the time!” Waaaaaaah!
If they had a backbone, wouldn’t they be able to take the “demonization” you allege? Sha!
OldLefty Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Jon Meachem actually said,
“In the essay I argued that two things were going on in American religion this Holy Week. First, that new (and newish) data suggested that the percentage of Americans who self-identify as Christians has been falling, albeit from astronomical heights to semiastronomical ones.
The second point is that the political project undertaken by politically and theologically conservative Christians in the wake of Roe v. Wade—what we call, in cultural and political shorthand, the rise of the religious right—has failed”
blissfulconservative Reply:
May 4th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
I guess that explains why liberals don’t want conservative talk radio to continue,and why you complain about Fox News everytime you breathe. You don’t have a backbone to take the criticism being dished out.
Great point Sarah.
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