Dijon-Gate
Conservatives have gone over the edge. They don’t know how to win elections, but they certainly know how to attack a Democratic president. The fallout continues from the Obama/Biden Tuesday foray to Ray’s Hell Burger. Wingnuttery prevails, as Obama is attacked for ordering his burger with DIJON MUSTARD! as one blogger blares; a condiment that must have been ordered, it is claimed, in consultation with John Kerry.
Obama also offended the Bama-bashers for leaving $5 in the tip jar. Furthermore, MSNBC is accused of covering up dijon-gate by not covering the mustard order. And there’s a pattern here, reports legalinsurrection: one of Obama’s favorite dishes uses Grey Poupon. And, the conservosphere screams, his love of this elitist condiment goes back to 1997!
In the summer of 1997, as he was finishing his first term in the Illinois State Senate, Barack Obama and a young legislative aide made an exploratory tour of downstate districts. When they stopped at a T.G.I. Friday’s, Obama ordered a cheeseburger, and when the waitress brought his food, he asked for Dijon mustard to go with it. “He doesn’t want Dijon,” the aide insisted, waving the waitress away, and shoving a bottle of French’s Obama’s way. The waitress was confused: “We got Dijon if you want it,” she said.
Thankfully, at least one winger gets it, the pointy-headed law professor at Instapundit. But Obama doesn’t stop at using the offending mustard on burgers. It is used in one of Obama’s favorite lunch recipes.
President Obama’s Tuna Salad
Tuna
Grey Poupon mustard
Mayonnaise
Chopped gherkins
And, so, can Gherkin-gate be far behind?
Wow who made this an issue?
EricG Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
A conservative.
Kregg Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Lets see, a lib president orders dijon and a lib aide interferes, a lib press reports it, and a lib blogger posts it for discussion. Yup, must have been a conservative that made this an issue…!
TDro319 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
You bet they did. Apparently it was a big deal on Hannity last night.
Daddio Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
You watch Hannity TDro? I thought he was very high on you hate meter.
Must be a big deal on Alan’s Liberaland also.
Eric, I think we are on a liberal blog talking about this because Alan, a big time liberal, wants to make a big deal about it.
TDro319 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Nope. I don’t watch Hannity. i saw a clip on the Daily Show. By the way, I don’t hate people I don’t know.
FuRyUs Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is how the rethugs win?
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
May 8th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
This is all further proof that the Republicans are unable to be anything but partisans now that they are out of power.
Out of power where they should be, too. Not that many people actually buy the BS that conservatives are doing anything good for the nation.
Only the uncrackable, unflappable are still on this kick and they never listened to reason in the first place.
May 8th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
… he asked for Dijon mustard to go with it. “He doesn’t want Dijon,” the aide insisted …
Mr. Obama was probably very patient with his aide.
BarryB Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Obama said “Do you have a spicy mustard like Dijon?” What the big deal? Who cares? The mustard is found in a lot of household and it isn’t exclusive to the rich.
May 8th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Can you take Conservatives seriously after this? No wonder.
EricG Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
No kidding. Next they will start press conferences about the hairs on his chin or write books about the color of his ties.
VegasLib Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
No sht. I mean. They get mad cause he uses a teleprompter. They get mad cause he likes dijon mustard (which I happen to like as well). They get mad cause he gave a tip. They get mad ’cause he’s trying to keep American muscle cars going.
WTF?
average james Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
I don’t like dijon. I’m a plain yellow mustard guy.
This whole sordid affair gives me pause.
I don’t do mayonaisse either. This is stuff that should have come out in the vetting at the primary level. I resent not being given all the facts in advance of the election.
Kregg Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
James said: I don’t do mayonaisse either. This is stuff that should have come out in the vetting at the primary level. I resent not being given all the facts in advance of the election.
K: Maybe thats why we haven’t seen his birth certificate – he spilled mayonnaise on it…
craig7120 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Ok lets say before the election it came out that he like mayo on bologna, would it of changed my mind? U bet. Mayo should only be used on blt’s. Furthermore horseradish mustard should be our national condiment.
VegasLib Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Horseradish sauce? Na, man. Chipotle Southwest. Haha.
Kregg Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Craig said: Furthermore horseradish mustard should be our national condiment.
K: Note to the lower half of the bell curve lurkers: Craig said ‘CONDIMENT” – and NOT ‘condom mint’…
craig7120 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Vegas I propose a trade, I will send you a jar of the horseradish grown locally in Collinsville, Ill. for a jar of that chipotle stuff. Becareful its a lil warm. lol
Kregg Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Craig, don’t they use that stuff to strip paint?
craig7120 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
No no no… wait I think they do. lol
Kregg Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
I have sissy taste buds so don’t go near the horse radish but accidently liberally applied it to a deli sandwich, thinking it was mayonnaise. Hot DAMN! I think thats how I lost my hair…
average james Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Craig,
“Would it have changed my mind ? U bet.”
Hahahahahaha
average james Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Transparecy my ass.
Why are we just now hearing about this abhorrent food related behavior ?
Kregg Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
James: Transparecy my ass. Why are we just now hearing about this abhorrent food related behavior ?
K: Hey, look James, we’re getting this stuff out as fast as we can but what with the tax cheats, teleprompter, $1,400,000,000,000 ’stimulus”, birth certificate, and other stuff he keeps handing us the mustard has had to wait…
trees are people too Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Chipotle to strip paint? Nah, it tastes good but it ain’t strong enough to strip paint.
Habanero…that will warm your tongue some…
Bhut Jolokia…I’m growing some Jolokia plants now, I think we have like 28 growing, there just little guys yet…..but I can’t wait for when they grow up….
average james Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Lame excuse Kregg,
Walk and chew gum at the same time, willya ?
average james Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Trees,
I am not familiar with Bhut Jolokia. What is it?
Wasabi is the sh#t !! Sushi rocks the world !!
Kregg Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
James: Walk and chew gum at the same time, willya ?
K: Hey, we’re working on it. This guy has just given us so much to work from in just a 100 days that we’re having to add staff to handle it all. Hey, the stimulus IS working…!
craig7120 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Trees will probably say its a hot pepper… but I believe its hotter than the surface of the sun. Good luck with your peppers Trees.
trees are people too Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Enter this in your google search…..you tube chili tests bhut jolokia
I like wasabi a lot too, I love sushi and pretty much all things Japanese.
trees are people too Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Thanks Craig.
Yeah they’re tricky little guys to try and grow. We had to build a greenhouse to start em.
We’re hardening them off now and they’re beginning to develop nice thick stems and take the direct sunlight well all day now. I can’t wait for them to get big and produce fruit.
God makes neat stuff…
craig7120 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
I have a curry lamb recipe that used those damn little things, I was acquainted with them rather rudely if you know what I mean.
trees are people too Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Yeah, no you definitely have to work up to them. I’ve been eating a lot of Habanero and getting myself ready.
I’m a hot pepper freak, I like all of the pepper family but the only Jolokia I’ve had to date is the stuff that comes in the little bottles and it lacks the flavor that fresh peppers add to a dish.
I like curry dishes too.
average james Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Trees,
I’m glad we have sushi love in common.
God sure does make neat stuff, for sure bro.
I’m going to check into bhut jolokia.
Later gang, gotta do something productive again.
May 8th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
I don’t care what he puts on his sandwich, I really don’t…
I’m more worried about how many more Quadrillion dollars he’s going to spend between now and the end of summer….
We need to make sure everyone has free government health care plans like the Federal employees, remember?
I think it’s pretty cool we finally elected Santa Clause President…..maybe he’ll let you guys sit on his lap and tell him what you want for Christmas this year.
average james Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
It aint gonna be dijon mustard.
Kregg Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
I prefer white trash French’s mustard myself.
average james Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Simpatico my brother. I knew I liked you…….you’re allright, for a conservative.
average james Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Wouldn’t that be – white trash “freedom” mustard ?
Kregg Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
James: Wouldn’t that be – white trash “freedom” mustard ?
K: No, James. You should leave being a conservative to the professionals. Its “freedom FRIES”. You can put “White trash” mustard on ‘freedom fries’ but the ketchup lobby (run by kerry’s wife) would probably complain.
average james Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Ketchup lobby(run by Kerry’s wife)…..Hahahahahaha
average james Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Does this also mean I am no longer compelled to use the term “freedom” kissing.
RDM Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
I’m with you. Who really cares what he put on his hamburger.
JIMMY CRACK CORN and I dont care!
average james Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Ya RDM,
but it’s been fun, funnin with you guys.
Thanks for a silly post Alan.
Laughter does good like medicine.
May 8th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
I’ll send Obama a case of Gulden’s Spicy Brown if Texas will secede and take the rest of the South with it.
RDM Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Rotty the Runt,I’ll send you back a case of Lone Star.
Daddio Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
You hate Texans Rocky? Texas is a great state.
Montana and Utah are great states also. At least they are fighting back at our very intrusive Federal government. I would be proud to live in any one of those three states.
Rocky the Liberal Rottweiler Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Texas could be a lot of things, but much like Utah it appears to be in the hands of cultists and chuckleheads, so any time they want to secede from the union I’ll be happy to wave goodbye.
RDM Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Rotty,
Some of the most liberal U. S. States rank lowest when it comes to personal freedom.
New York is the least overall by a considerable margin followed by New Jersey, Rhode Island, California and Maryland.
The freest states in the country are New Hampshire, Colorado, and South Dakota.
Illinois is one of the worst to live in from a personal freedom perspective(#49).
Unfortunately the freedom disadvantaged states make up a substantial portion of the total American population.
I’m proud to live in the Great State of Teaxs!
Whatever city you live in, it’s a nanny state!
OldLefty Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
RDM,
“Some of the most liberal U. S. States rank lowest when it comes to personal freedom.
I guess that’s true if YOU get to decide for everyone else what is personal freedom.
If you are referring to … Mercatus Center at George Mason University, That is a conservative think tank, and the “freedoms” they speak of are defined by conservatives.
RDM Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Lefty, The critera was based on individual freedom as the ability to dispose of one’s own life, liberty, and justly acquired property however one sees fit, so long as one does not coercively infringe on another individuals ability to do the same.
Would you approve if a liberal University released the findings?
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Rocky…have you ever been to Utah? it’s pretty nice. To say it’s run by cultists and “chuckleheads” is a pretty bigoted statement.
Um Cara Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Why would you pay attention to anything Rocky the Liberal Raccoon says, Guido?
I don’t pay attention to JerryRollins, for the most part.
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
I usually refrain from posting, but Utah is a nice place to visit, I don’t know if I can say the same for Montana (unless of course you like breathtaking natural beauty)
baD mR fRosTy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
“”I usually refrain from posting…”"
I just spit coffee out my nose, lol…
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
sorry, I usually refrain from posting to idiotic replies…sorry I left that part out.
maybe it’s not evident, but there are a lot of times that I want to post something in response to Rocky, Trees, Kregg, EricG and a few others because I don’t want to descend into the ridiculous…I try to keep my posts geared toward the more sane members…so yeah…in retrospect I spit milk out my nose at my own comment, since I didn’t qualify it.
May 8th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
It was probably Biden that said; ” Hey O Man, let’s go to Hell and eat a burger”.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
A really slow news day today Alan? Who gives a rats behind what kind of mustard our ten trillion dollar debt President uses.
TDro319 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Still upset because your man lost the election?
Daddio Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
No, just upset that Obama is putting my children, grandchildren and great grandchildren into a debt hole that will lower their standard of living because they will have to repay this enormous debt. $800,000,000,000 just in interest payments alone every year.
Don’t drop the Iraq line on me TDro. Obama has now spent more tax dollars than ALL FORMER PRESIDENTS COMBINED.
That is what upsets me.
Southern Girl Lib Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
And yet you sat silent while Bush ran up the debt. I guess Clinton is your fav modern day president, ’cause he left with a budget surplus, no? Oh and Saint Ronnie? He ran up deficits too.
Daddio Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
No I didn’t set silent while Bush ran up his debt. I was very critical of his administration for not weilding his veto pen on the many spending bills put before him by the Republican led Congress. Bush had a rubber stamp Congress just the same as Obama now has a rubber stamp Congress. This madness has got to stop.
To be truthful, the surplus during the Clinton years was not because Clinton wanted to refrain from spending. It was the Republican Congress that forced him to. You won’t agree with that but spending started to decrease after the 1994 elections.
Daddio Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Actually, for the record, a President cannot spend one red cent. All he can do is submit a budget with what he wants to spend. Congress has the power of the purse. Congress can tell the president no or can revise his budget. So calling it Reagan’s debt or Bush’s debt or even Obama’s debt is really putting the blame on only one responsible party. And, by the same token, calling it the Clinton surplus is also not totally true.
TDro319 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
“That is what upsets me.”
Tsk, tsk. You upset too easily Daddio – especially when a democrat is in office.
VegasLib Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Might I remind you of this…
Total outlays in recent budget submissions
Annual U.S. spending 1934-2006 with adjustment for inflation.
• 2010 United States federal budget – $3.60 trillion (submitted 2009 by President Obama)
• 2009 United States federal budget – $3.10 trillion (submitted 2008 by President Bush)
• 2008 United States federal budget – $2.90 trillion (submitted 2007 by President Bush)
• 2007 United States federal budget – $2.77 trillion (submitted 2006 by President Bush)
• 2006 United States federal budget – $2.7 trillion (submitted 2005 by President Bush)
• 2005 United States federal budget – $2.4 trillion (submitted 2004 by President Bush)
• 2004 United States federal budget – $2.3 trillion (submitted 2003 by President Bush)
• 2003 United States federal budget – $2.2 trillion (submitted 2002 by President Bush)
• 2002 United States federal budget – $2.0 trillion (submitted 2001 by President Bush)
• 2001 United States federal budget – $1.9 trillion (submitted 2000 by President Clinton)
Obama’s budget don’t look like even the last eight budgets before his combined. The whole he’s spending and racking up more debt than EVERY past president combined is pretty stupid. Whoever believes that one is clearly misguided by the ConLords: Shinnity, Limpbaughlls, Weiner (Savage), Becky… oh, and the Great(Crap)One.
OldLefty Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Obama is doing EXACTLY what the people elected him to do.
The main point is that the American people understood that Bush and the GOP were like bunch of unruly kids who stayed in the house and caused HUGE damage, and now money HAS to be spent to clean up the mess.
As of 2005, according to the Treasury Department, from 1776-2000, the first 224 years of U.S. history, 42 U.S. presidents borrowed a combined $1.01 trillion from foreign governments and financial institutions, but in the past four years alone, the Bush administration borrowed $1.05 trillion.
Reagan tripled the deficit then raised taxes.
The problem is that conservatives never have a problem borrowing and spending as long as the government is redistributing the wealth from the middle class upwards.
Obama is at least investing in America.
Lee Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
If there is one popular right-wing soundbite which really annoys me in its utter stupidity, its the
” Obama has now spent more tax dollars than ALL FORMER PRESIDENTS COMBINED. ”
Inflation makes this comparison worthless.
On top of that, we’re in the midst of a severe recession so the economic environment is hardly ‘normal’!
RDM Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
No, besides I’m outraged out.
Um Cara Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
You aren’t even a little outraged that Obama likes Dijon mustard?
May 8th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
I’m not sure you understand the ramifications of the deficit and debt that our so-called leaders in Washington run up without any thinking of it’s consequences.
Do you not care what kind of lifestyle your children and grandchildren will have? How much will they have to be taxed to pay for this monsterous debt? $800,000,000,000 a year to just pay the interest!!!
To say I get upset easily over this is rather ignorant of you. Would you be as forgiving if Bush had spent a whopping $2 TRILLION in tax money his first 100 days in office?
VegasLib Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
He spent a well over a Trillion on a pointless war and another Trillion in his last days alone. That’s a fraction of his total spending.
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
That’s a fraction of his total spending.
——
I’ve never understood this phrase…anything can be shown as a fraction.
if he spent 99.999999999999999999999999999% of all the money that was spent on his last day, it could still be shown as a fraction…
baD mR fRosTy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Agreed. Not only that, but 3/2, 5/3, 1,000,000,000/900,000,000 are all fractions as well…
Rocky the Liberal Rottweiler Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
“Do you not care what kind of lifestyle your children and grandchildren will have?”
And you didn’t give a crack till Obama took office.
“Would you be as forgiving if Bush had spent a whopping $2 TRILLION in tax money his first 100 days in office?”
The size of BushCo’s budgets is a relatively minor issue compared with how effectively he brought the world economy to within a few minutes of total ruin and how he sent the human race hurtling toward extinction.
Daddio Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
And of course Bush was responsible for Katrina, the Tsunami, Castro, Chavez, and supernovas. I think Bush was responsible for WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Bosnia, the Russian invasion of Georgia and he is probably responsible for my arthritis.
I understand now Rocky. Oh, just wondering, how is Bullwinkle now days?
VegasLib Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
I guessss. If you say so…
Daddio Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
How much taxpayer dollars being spent by Washington is to much Vegaslib?
Is it only a Republican president and a Republican Congress that has to be held accountable?
VegasLib Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
NO. Everyone should be held accountable, but we don’t know what the effects of the stimulus will be yet. You guys are predicting the Apocalypse and saying that it’ll all be cause of Obama, but W was, simply put, a ‘class-act’. Right? At least Obama’s investing the money in OUR country. RIGHT HERE. At least he’s going after the one’s that attacked us and not the one’s that tried to kill his daddy.
Do you see where I’m coming from at all? Are you able to step in my shoes for a bit and see why I have this opinion?
Rocky the Liberal Rottweiler Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
“I understand now Rocky.”
LoL, yeah sure you do. You and the rest of the dinosaurs “understand.” What’s that signpost up ahead? Is it the Twilight Zone? Nope, just the end of the line. A case of natural selection leading to extinction.
trees are people too Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
I don’t know if anyone either saw or remembers the movie the “Lord of the rings”, but towards the end of the third movie, “The return of the king”, there is a scene where Frodo is inside Mt Doom and he is standing on a precipice over the molten lava as he is contemplating casting the ring of power down to it’s destruction…. The Liberal’s on this site remind me of Golum, who grabs the ring of power and dances around with it ecstatically happy and oblivious to his surroundings.
He get’s knocked off the precipice holding his precious ring of power and falls into the lava flow…
He shows a complete lack of concern for his own safety and well being and begins to sink under the lava, all the while holding on to the precious ring of power and attempting to keep it up above the molten lava and out of harms way, eyes fixed greedily on it the entire time….he holds on to the bitter end…completely absorbed by his own aspiration to posses the ring of power and to keep it for himself……
VegasLib Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Sounds like the last eight years. Very much so. BushCo was sinking in the lava when the economy tanked.
Daddio Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Great analogy of what is happening now in the one party control in Washington DC. Also known as the District of Corruption.
Um Cara Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Perhaps if the Republicans had not made themselves such a distasteful choice to the American people, by following Limbaugh and Coulter’s advice, we wouldn’t be reduced to a single party.
I sincerely hope the Republicans get their act together before the next election. Telling Limbaugh to go away, as opposed to sucking up to him, would be a good step towards that.
VegasLib Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Daddio, why so pessimistic buddy? Washington, District of Corruption? Dang. One party control? You seriously don’t think class-act GWB’s legacy had anything to do with that?
Daddio Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Are you condoning the censorship of Rush Cara? As much distaste as you have for Rush he does have the right to speak what he believes. Which, by the way, turns out to be true much of the time. Independent studies have shown that.
OldLefty Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Democrats were screaming about one party rule over the last 8 years, with Delay’s Republican majority pac, and Rove talking about a “permanent Republican majority”, and the K Street project, and we were told that we were in the minority because we were “out of touch with American values”.
trees are people too Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Lefty, you didn’t gain office because of your “values”, you got elected because the GOP ran McCain, the weakest of the Republican candidates…..
There is a groundswell of lava forming around your party…..and two years from now you’ll be struggling to keep your head above it….arm outstretched clutching at power… eyes fixed on the precious……just before sinking down out of sight…….
Um Cara Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Are you condoning the censorship of Rush Cara?
Obviously not, I’m suggesting the Republican party not continue to marginalize themselves by listening to bad advice.
The Republican party has been under Limbaugh’s leadership for quite a while, and it has gotten them voted into irrelevance.
I’m sure the Democrats home that Limbaugh continues in his leadership role of the Republican party.
Daddio Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
The Republican party had everything to do with the Dems gaining control over the entire government. They got away from their core principles over the last eight years and it cost them dearly. The party is not to conservative as Specter claims. The party has drifted to far to the left. They are now left of center. The party has left me and if they wish to take me back in they must return to their conservative core principles.
They spent like drunken sailors the last eight years and Bush allowed that. They are to blame. Now Obama and the Dems are repeating that cycle and it will come back to bite them big time. Politicians don’t learn. They think they have a mandate to do what ever their little ol hearts desire when elected.
Obama was not elected to go to Washington and rack up record debt and deficits. He has not explained to the American people how he plans to repay all that debt. And he continues to promote programs and policy that will continue on this debt road. He has a projected debt of over TEN TRILLION DOLLARS IN TEN YEARS. AND HE IS ONLY BEEN IN OFFICE THREE AND A HALF MONTHS.
Daddio Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
The Republican party has NOT BEEN under Rush’s leadership, ever. Come on. The Republican party has self destructed by leaving their core principles and good conservatives like myself.
And Trees is right, the Republicans ran one of the weakest candidates they have in McCain.
He actually hurt Sarah Palin. His numbers grew after he selected her. Just a side note.
Um Cara Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
you got elected because the GOP ran McCain, the weakest of the Republican candidates…..
The Republican voters selected McCain in the primary, the Republican party selected that kooky chick from Alaska to run with him.
I’d say she is what lost the election, McCain was a fine candidate before the Republican party threw that albatross around his neck (to appease the Limbaugh crowd).
VegasLib Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Trees: “Lefty, you didn’t gain office because of your “values”, you got elected because the GOP ran McCain, the weakest of the Republican candidates…..”
Blame McCain, you know, since he’s a bit more rational. But, no. W had nothing to do with why the Dems took over, right? (I dunno man. I smell ignorance.)
Daddio Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
McCain was our weakest candidate. Want proof?
Well the media loved him and every liberal I heard speak were really happy he was nominated. Just as you speak well of him. That raises red flags all over the place. That should have been a message to the Republican party to NOT nominate McCain.
trees are people too Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Obama was elected on this idea of “I can fix it”, and so far his repair plan has been to run to the parts store and buy all new parts for the car…….
But like most amateur mechanics realize if you can’t diagnose and troubleshoot the problem you will spend a lot of time and money and still have a broken down car that won’t run.
Throwing money at the problem isn’t helping is it?
But hey, that’s a pretty cool shifter knob he picked up while he was at Napa the other day, maybe he’ll buy a new air freshener when he stops in for armor all tomorrow…..
VegasLib Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
He was nominated because Bush’s conservative term turned many conservatives into liberals. What’s the current percentage of the population that claim to be Republican, again? 25% was it? Ronald Reagan wouldn’t have been elected after Bush.
Um Cara Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
That should have been a message to the Republican party to NOT nominate McCain.
Once again, I remind you, it was the Republican primary voters who selected McCain, not the media, not liberals, not the party.
The party gave us that train wreck Palin. The perfect Limbaugh candidate. And exactly what the US voters did not want.
VegasLib Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Um Cara: “The party gave us that train wreck Palin. The perfect Limbaugh candidate. And exactly what the US voters did not want.”
Yea. Looks like the ‘perfect Limbaugh candidate’ turned out to be as appealing to the voters as Limbaugh himself. But they keep thinking that taking the country back 2 centuries to its ‘conservative roots’ is the way to resurrect the party. Poor fools. Denial at is finest. Or poorest? Whatever.
trees are people too Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
I wonder if Obama has figured out yet that the only problem with the car is there isn’t any gas in the tank……….
If he wants the economy to run he needs to put some fuel in the tank….by cutting taxes
Nope, I don’t think he’s figured it out yet….but I did notice that he was looking at picking up some fuzzy dice to hang from the rear view mirror…
I guess I’ll just keep hoping that things will get better….
trees are people too Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Whoops…..it looks like someone stole the tires and rims while Barack was out buying sheepskin seat covers…..
Um Cara Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Trees, buddy – you do understand that an analogy can be taken too far, right?
trees are people too Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
You tryin’ to spoil my fun um cara?
I was just cooking up something about a chrome plated bosch tach gauge to put up on the dash so that when we do get this thing runnin’ we can look real impressive, you know maybe pick up some chicks……….
TDro319 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
If Obama didn’t spend a dime, cut taxes and did everything the republicans are whining about now, the cons on this site would be complaining he’s not spending enough and he’s cutting taxes.
Tsk, tsk. The cons will never be happy.
baD mR fRosTy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
“”get this thing runnin’ we can look real impressive, you know maybe pick up some chicks……….”‘
Sounds like more than just the pastor had a little too much tipple at the church picnic…
Just kidding.
;-)
BarryB Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Fascinating.
I wouldn’t be too quick with the Gollum comparison. If you recall, Gollum actually saved the quest from disaster.
Frodo had made it to the Crack of Doom and was supposed to throw the Ring into the fire, below. He didn’t. Instead, he fell to the Ring’s sinister influence. If not for Gollum, everything would have been lost.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Daddio,
What Independent studies show that what Rush Limbaugh says turns out to be true?
( Other than statistics that EVERYBODY quotes that are ALWAYS true, but deceptive?)
Hope for Change Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Rush limbaugh’s own studies show that. Ask him.
VegasLib Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Yea. They do. He’s, and I quote, “99.9% always right.” Close enough to God, hu?
May 8th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
From a 1999 web-posting on (add ypur own www.) heart4home.net/burger.htm
“Chicago Burger: grilled beef burger with sweet relish, chopped onion, ketchup, mustard and hot peppers.”
So its a Chicago thing – are Republicans against Chicagoans now?
May 8th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Again, where to reply?
trees are people too,
#1) That’s the opinion of the 27% who believe that the GOP ever paid more than lip service to “values”.
#2) What does that have to do with the fact that we were dismissed by the conservatives when we expressed concern about one party rule, based on the so called “values of the GOP?
#3) The Lord of the Rings analogy seems much more descriptive of the GOP. Funny when the movie came out, a lot of people equated the Bush administration with Mordor .
baD mR fRosTy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Agreed. I’ve always found Dick Morris to be somewhat hobbit-like, only without the jolly bit…
May 8th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Dijon is a town in France. Dijon mustard originated in France. France didn’t support the Iraq war, so we can’t like Dijon mustard.
Pass the freedom fries.
Um Cara Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Sounds like elite mustard to me.
jake Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
The Bush family originated in Germany, the Bush family didn’t support the war against the Nazis, the Bush family gave money to the Nazis to build concentration camps. So we shouldn’t eat mayonnaise.
Pass the chips.
May 8th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
I wonder if the 27% have figured out that for the last 8 years, we had a bunch of rotten unruly kids who stayed in the house, put holes in the roof, rotted the floor boards, caused water damage and mold growth, and now it’s going to be expensive to repair the damage.
May 8th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
1. This sounds like a joke.
2. I love Grey Poupon…and dijon in general
3. Grey Poupon comes in a squeeze bottle now…how elite can it be?
May 8th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
RDM,
Again, this study comes from the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, which is a very conservative group.
They boast Wendy Gramm, (wife of Phil Recession Is “Mental,” America Is “Nation Of Whiners” Gramm,) and of Enron fame.
They are very vague about defining “personal freedoms”.
This organization is much more concerned about the personal freedoms of corporations.
I think if you are gay, you feel you have more personal freedom in Massachusetts, or if you were the Mathis Family, and Bush took your property, you might not be impressed with your personal freedoms.
RDM Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Well then, you admit that liberal(nanny states) states Are freer than conservative states when it comes to same-sex partner policies and marijuana.
That’s certainly not anything new. Just like most people on Liberaland are against gun owners.
Note: Texas has one of the smallest state governments in the country.( Now you know for me to say the word small is hard for a Texan to do).
Um Cara Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
I haven’t seen hardly anyone who is against gun ownership on LiberalLand.
As for myself, I don’t care if you have 10,000 guns, semi automatic, fully automatic, black powder, 100 bullet clips, bayonets, whatever – as long as you are a law abiding citizen.
Um Cara Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Do you care if someone has a doobie?
RDM Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
My bad. I meant to say Rocky.
RDM Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Lefty… I found this interesting.
Sarah Palin’s Alaska does extremely well on personal freedom. Reasons for its high score:
-fully legalized possession of small amounts of marijuana(accomplished through a court ruling)
-the best(least restrictive) gun laws in the country
-recognition of same-sex domestic pertnerships
-possibly the best homeschooling laws in the country.
North to Alaska, North the rush is on.
TDro319 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
She must be doing something wrong. Her approval ratings dropped 30+ points since January.
OldLefty Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
That’s very nice for Alaska, but what does it have to do with anything?
< fully legalized possession of small amounts of marijuana(accomplished through a court ruling)
(Most conservatives are against this. I think they are just catching up to liberals)
< -the best(least restrictive) gun laws in the country
(State’s rights issue, as in not a highly populated congested urban area)
< -recognition of same-sex domestic pertnerships
(Better, not as free as marriage, plus conservatives are for domestic pertnerships because the tide turned, and they see as better than marriage: if liberals hadn’t pushed for it they would not be accepting it.)
<possibly the best homeschooling laws in the country.
(Not my cup of tea. but Good for them….I don’t know about the rest of Alaska, but Palin’s town of Wasilla was called a “drop out factory”.
Rural areas do tend to do more home schooling.)
RDM Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Lefty said:
That’s very nice for Alaska, but what does it have to do with anything?
I thought it interesting that a conservative state, with a conservative governor, is more liberal that you might think.
HOW WIERD IS THAT
May 8th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
At least Obama is investing in America…
You mean; at least Obama is investing in American Government. Almost 14 million unemployed, 72,000 new government jobs, 66,000 of which are cenus takers(temps). 206 million paid in bonus to Fannie Mae & Freddide Mac, 800 more new jos now needed for the IRS to police his new tax ideas.
Yes, he is investing in growing government but not much has been done yet for small business America.
Need a job, call Acorn.
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Has anyone ever studied the effects of the census on unemployment numbers? They aren’t the most fabulously paid jobs…but it seems it would create a little uptick.
OldLefty Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Better than Bush investing in Halliburton, CACI international , Titan, Blackwater The Saudi Royal family,
From the Bureau of Labor Statistics:
U.S. Unemployment Rates Under President Bush Continue to Climb
Actually the right is so angry at Obama because he is investing more in small business than in those 400 richest people whose incomes doubled under Bush.
Bush was the one who wanted those “with poor credit “ to get mortgages, because Wall street more mortgages.
Fannie and Freddie were about 30% of the problem.
I’ll take ACORN over Diebold , Katherine Harris, and Kenneth Blackwell any day.
In fact, two of the nine U.S. Attorneys who were fired in 2006 were targeted because they refused to bring criminal charges against individuals affiliated with ACORN.
Iglesias said that Republican officials in his state were far less interested in election reforms and more intent on suppressing votes.
He recalled that the Justice Department issued a directive to every U.S. Attorney in the country to find and prosecute cases of voter fraud in their states during the height of hotly contested elections in 2002, 2004, and 2006, even though evidence of such abuses was extremely thin or non-existent.
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Lefty…
If you were the AG, and one of your assistants refused to do their job, what would you do?
You can argue if the Acorn individuals were guilty or not, but after reviewing the facts the AG felt they should have been tried…they might have been found innocent for all we know/care, but it’s an insubordination issue more than anything. Insubordination is a fireable offense at most places of employment.
OldLefty Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Not when they were fired because they woud not use the office for political prosecutions.
And not when “evidence of such abuses was extremely thin or non-existent.”
Although he should quit and came out with the story, unless, they just fire him, unexpectedly.
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
let’s imagine for just a second that they did break the law…isn’t the point of prosecution to flesh that all out.
The fact is they refused to perform a task that was part of their job, and was ordered of them to do.
The last person that refused to perform a job duty at my work was shown the door.
RDM Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Old Lefty
I don’t have the words. I’m sorry you have been so mis-treatd the last 8 years. I hear things will be much better now since everything is democrats.
I’ll retreat back to middle earth now.
RDM Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Name some of those small busineses, and the SBA doesn’t count.
TDro319 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Maybe you can apply for one of the government jobs. Who knows? If you’re hired, you can instantly quit stating you refuse to work for a communist/socialist/ marxist/facist,Muslim terrorist.
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
who are you talking to????
Imyourhuckleberry Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
I applied for a government job once. They told me I was the wrong color.
May 8th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
It is a proven fact that people who use Dijon mustard have socialist tendencies and soon develop a strange interest in hockey.
average james Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
I knew it !!!
May 8th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
RDM said,
“I thought it interesting that a conservative state, with a conservative governor, is more liberal that you might think.”
Is it really a conservative v liberal issue, or is it a more libertarian ,and regional kind of thing…remember, the two senators from Maine are Republicans, but are considered liberal by conservatives.
There conservatives AND liberals for all these things,
One could ALSO point out:
The Centers for Disease Control released a new report today that found that Mississippi “now has the nation’s highest teen pregnancy rate, displacing Texas and New Mexico for that lamentable title.” The report found that in 2006, the Mississippi teen pregnancy rate was over 60 percent higher than the national average, and increased 13 percent since the year before.
While the new report, does not explain why the state’s teen pregnancy rate is increasing, one reason may be the poor quality of its sex ed programs. As the Sexuality Information and Education Center explains, Mississippi focuses heavily on abstinence education.
OR that:
The state with the lowest divorce rate in the nation is Massachusetts. At latest count it had a divorce rate of 2.4 per 1,000 population, while the rate for Texas was 4.1.
The lowest divorce rates are largely in the blue states: the Northeast and the upper Midwest. And the state with the lowest divorce rate was Massachusetts, home to same-sex marriage.
The rate in Massachusetts was 5.7 divorces per 1,000 married people, compared with 10.8 in Kentucky, 11.1 in Mississippi and 12.7 in Arkansas.
OR that:
Red State Socialism: 84% Red States Take More Than They Give
Blue states (heavily Democratic) give more money to the government than they get back. Most of that money goes to red states (heavily Republican).
Ironically, if there’s a red scare here it’s the Republicans people should be afraid of.
”
27 of the top 32 states (84%) which GET more than they GIVE are Republican.
14 of the top 18 states (78%) which GIVE more than they GET are Democratic.
The Tax Foundation broke down the fiscal 2005 numbers and ranked the states based on federal outlays vs. how much tax money was sent to Washington.
While New Mexico, a blue state in 2008, ranked first, the states that finished 2-9 are all states that voted for John McCain: Mississippi, Alaska, Louisiana, West Virginia, North Dakota, Alabama, South Dakota, and Kentucky.
By contrast, the bottom 10 states (in order from 41-50) — Colorado, New York, California, Delaware, Illinois, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Nevada, and New Jersey — all voted for Barack Obama. In fact, all but one of the states that pays more tax than receive in outlays — Texas (35) — voted for Obama.
HOW WIERD IS THAT
May 9th, 2009 at 10:06 am