On Monday’s Radio Show…
• Coalition of the Just? Kevin Zeese, Executive Director of Voters for Peace, discusses the recently filed petition that calls for the disbarment of the Bush Administration attorneys who are linked to the now infamous “Terror Memos.”
• Ventura bodyslams Hasselbeck! Former Navy Seal and Minnesota Governor Jesse “The Body” Ventura joins Alan to share his own personal experience with waterboarding and how it helped shape his view that the practice is indeed torture.
• Alexander A. Reinert, attorney for Javid Iqbala Pakistani, who was detained in a Brooklyn Detention Center following the attacks of 9/11, explains to Alan why the Supreme Court’s 5-4 vote against his client’s right to sue John Ashcroft and Robert Muller for alleged abuses while in custody is a mere “detour” on Iqbal’s path to justice.
It will be interesting to hear how Iqbal’s attorney Reinert will argue how SCOTUS’s decision against his client will only be a “detour” on his client’s path to justice. I was always under the impression that the Supreme Court’s decision on a case ended the matter.
Jesse Ventura sounds like he will be an energetic and engaging guest with his personal experience on a subject that is such a hot topic in the news these days. I wonder, will he take some calls?
More power to the efforts of Voter for Peace! May they find the justice they seek! Should be a great show tonight!
And, finally, I think it’s cool that Aimee is involved in the posting process here, as well.
EricG Reply:
May 19th, 2009 at 1:49 am
“I was always under the impression that the Supreme Court’s decision on a case ended the matter.”
Absolutely not so. This decision is going to overturned.
Let the actual lawyers run with this but seriously … no reading of US case law could result in this ruling except this court. It’s total BS that a student is sitting here with a better understand of the Constitution than the damn SCOTUS! The criminal actives of an individual are not excused of the facts they may have been ordered to do so. We prosecuted Nazis on this exactly. The court is cowardly in face of justice. Nothing less than an injustice was done to Javid Iqbal by decision.
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
May 19th, 2009 at 3:06 am
‘Lil Eric,
There are ways that his lawyer can still run with this, however your assertion that this matter will ever come back to the courts in it’s present form is ignorant…at best.
The only chance it would make it’s way back is if courts every step of the way decided to ingnore the SCOTUS and allow it to proceed ,someone along the way would shut it down with prejudice, meaning it can’t be refiled or appealed on grounds of a previous SCOTUS ruling against it. If for any reason it came back to the SCOTUS it wouldn’t even be reargued, Justice Roberts would deny the request on principle alone, and refer the party to the previous ruling.
They could try and go after other people, but it’s unlikely any court would give it any serious consideration.
But of course your opinion doesn’t equal fact, nor even, rational opinion.
EricG Reply:
May 20th, 2009 at 2:09 am
I was wrong on this. I had my facts screwy when I wrote that before.
They are right to defer this, I think. There probably isn’t grounds to prove the case of racism, nationalism and bigotry.
“if courts every step of the way decided to ingnore the SCOTUS and allow it to proceed ,someone along the way would shut it down with prejudice”
Who would shut it down?
If there was injustice done and racial profiling and someone is going to circumvent the process of justice then I’d like to know who.
In the end the courts decide, obviously.
Upon review of this decision I have little opposition to it.
They upheld that you can be prosecuted even if ordered to do something and didn’t simply excuse the case against Muller and Ashcroft as ridiculous like it sounds your doing.
EricG Reply:
May 20th, 2009 at 2:11 am
“‘Lil Eric,”
What do want Gay Man Guido?
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
May 20th, 2009 at 2:20 am
Who would shut it down?
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any rational judge who believes in jurisprudence.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Jessie speaks many truths and without too much polish. I love it when he cuts to the heart of the matter when it comes to torture. We are a country of laws…and it is against the law to torture, and waterboarding is torture….period. Those who torture, order torture, or twist law to somehow attempt to justify torture as legal, should all be placed in jail since they all break the law……period. Anything beyond that is just smoke…and bull.
pierre Reply:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Ventura tortured Hannity last night.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:54 am