Barack Obama and Dick Cheney gave competing speeches on terrorism Thursday. It’s fun to listen to them side-by-side. We’ve whittled the substance down to 2 minutes and 15 seconds.
“So True and if they knew sll this from Clinton Administation why are they asleep at the wheel?”
You might want to ask Dubya and the Dick, as we were attacked on 9/11 on their watch.
“Are we suppose to applaud…and forget 911?”
How can we forget? We have the Dickster on his national fear mongering tour reminding us of that fateful day. All he needs as a sidekick is Rudy “9/11″ Giuliani.
The myth about Clinton not going after Bin Laden is one of the most common lies of the radical right talking points. It is ironic that they now want to ignore talking about prior administrations.
Bush and his administration came into power with a total disdain for anything that came from the Clinton people. All concerns expressed about Al Quida, terrorism, intelligence, and/or national security were swept away in an ignorant swoosh of ideological fanatism.
Cheney symbolizes the complete collapse of moral and ethical leadership due to the panicked administration. America was attacked twice on their watch…9/11 and the anthrax attacks…and they couldn’t catch either perpetrator…so, they attacked Iraq
Now, if all those nifty torture techniques worked so damn well, why did they stop them in 2005? Did we become less safe after they quit using them? If Guantanimo Bay and the Abu Garib incidents were separate the Abu Garib incidents only the work of a few bad apples, why are the techniques so similar? Why do the outside contractors appear in both places with both places having abuses? Remember, they “adjusted” Guantanimo procedures because some “went too far”. Why would you need a medic there if the torture techniques were safe?
Poor citizen Cheney keeps confessing to his own crimes. His torture rationalization tour will, unfortunate for him, lead to his own demise as a free person. If our government doesn’t prosecute the lawbreakers, some other nation will. Either way, we lost our honor beginning the day that Supreme Court was activist enough to put their man in the white house…..sad for America.
TDRO
So True and if they knew sll this from Clinton Administation why are they asleep at the wheel?
They try to have it both ways.
Hey I have up 8 runs in first inning but the rest I shut them down..
Are we suppose to applaud…and forget 911?
Guess so……
Goliath
You like many conservatives hide behind the flag when anything critical is said.
1-You blame Bill for not getting Bin Ladden well guess what I am not a knee bender to any party like you so I hold him accountable as well However if you take responsiblity fot 7!/2 years of no bombings on you watch then you have to take responsibility for 911 and 4100 soldiers killed since for no cause.
2-If you critize Clinton for the Cole Bombings Embassey Bombings Kabul Towers etc and not getting Bin Ladden then when Bush came into office by definition he knew the threat Ladden was and did nothing but allow 911. For years Rush etc talked about threat of militant Islam so why was Bush asleep at the wheel? You cannot have it both ways…
Bush knew from day 1 and did NOTHING by your own definition.
3-You tell me your opinion why Turkey did not give us coverage on front but not why we went in despite no coverage? To use your own terms what does that have to do with tea in China?
5-You say we are safer how? Were terrorists Iraq? Bush himself said had nothing to do with 911? No WMD? No realestic shot at any kind of democracy.
You play down Iran being stronger one Weapons inspector testified Iraq overblown Weapons claims were done to Keep Iran at bay. Another said they had nothing. Well we let Iran know Iraq is no threat good job. If it stopped attacks why didn’t Cheney release documents when he was in power? He said it would in danger troops now he has no power he wants them released. He knew Obama’s plan. The same contradictions that go into this mess.
Same chess game and you fall for it.
6-Reason 100,000 christian refuges because of Civil War we set loose. Of cause you care nothing about that.
You say they made the ultimate sacrifice to protect OUR boarders WHEN did Middle East Boarders becomes OURS?
Tow questions
1-What have we won in Iraq? Please show proof unlike Cheney.
2-Could we have protected ourselves without invading Iraq? Could we have protected our real boarders and citizens? with our troops?
3-If strong homeland security would 911 have happened? If Bush read Tea leaves you mention from Clintons why not stop attack? Would invasion of Iraq prior to 911 stopped 911 of cause not. since they were not Iraq’s
4-Why did we claim victory In Afgan years Ago if we never take eyes off tarket?
5-Typical neo con Obama spending to help US Citizens not only rebuilding foriegn nations. He is putting America First!
6-Israel Bombed Syrian WMD plant a year ago they did not go to war with Syria no naive nation Building. Took out sight..
Which is better strategy? Theres or ours..
Bush listened to the Inspectors that he wanted to listen to. He Treated Iraq like French occupied by Nazi’s during WW 11. Ignorant of culture ore geography our history.
Many former Bush Admistartion Officials inclusding Hass and Powell etc have talked about how this war was not needed.
I hate to say it but I have not seen such blind nationalism since 1933.
Danka
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Um.. this pic is cool in a scary way….
May 21st, 2009 at 11:06 pm
… or creepy…
average james Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:29 am
Kinda Barak Skywalker in the foreground and Darth Cheney in the background.
pino Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:35 am
Nah…Blessed Leader……
Serious. What metric do you use that would cause you to see Obama as a failure?
average james Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:47 am
Cheney pictures are just sorta scary, yet fun, almost playful. Yes ?
Sarah Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
What metric do you use that would cause you to see Obama as a failure?
Ooo, that’s a good question. I suppose the same metric that Neocon Republicans are praying for: Failure of his policies.
Failure of his policies, for which the majority of Americans approved, would constitute a failure of his administration.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:09 pm
I have to say, Liberaland has been very very quiet lately. Is this what happens when Cara, Frosty, Kregg and Trees don’t show up?
average james Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 12:15 am
I’m here Pino,
Back from my thursday night AA meeting.
May 21st, 2009 at 11:29 pm
I’m here Pino,
Yeah, but it used to be much more crowded in here. Something happened……
average james Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:09 am
Good weather ?
Rocky the Liberal Rottweiler Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 5:38 am
Sockpuppets.
Sarah Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 12:52 pm
I never thought of Rottweilers as appreciative of sock puppets (for the lack of opposable thumbs, I suppose). Good to know.
May 22nd, 2009 at 12:33 am
Cheney came in and threatened to waterboard everyone unless we said he wasn’t insane…..several people declined and have been kidnapped to his secret torture chamber below his new residence….Walla Walla.
May 22nd, 2009 at 12:36 am
his secret torture chamber below his new residence….Walla Walla.
I am sure you meant Wasilla.
Robert Blair Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 12:58 am
Walla Walla is a correctional institution….and a city in Washington…for Dick it was the correctional institution (for the criminally insane).
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 3:37 am
Robert do you live in Washington?
Criminally insane go to Medical Lake, where the state mental health and detention center is. Walla Walla is the state max security penetentiary.
Eric Goeke Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:06 am
And Wasilla is a another correctional institution for the mentally insane…
Daddio Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 8:45 am
Don’t forget Chicago. A correctional institution for the politically corrupt insane.
May 22nd, 2009 at 12:43 am
It’s dead in here because people are waking up to the conservative truth. Lt. Col. Oliver North on Sean Hannity said he was water boarded and he says it’s “uncomfortable but not torture” so There are discrepencies in this matter.
Robert Blair Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 12:57 am
That shows that North never did have any brains. He’s a criminal that helped sell arms to Iran. His credibility is lower than Cheney’s…maybe as low as Liddy’s, but Liddy has two extra points for insanity.
Valinius Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 12:59 am
Actually he was acquitted in that case, however, he did devise the REX84 program to round people like you up and detain them in internment camps.
average james Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:06 am
“I shredded because it was the right thing to do” North, the man behind the curtain. What a piece of work that guy is. Another shining example of the conservative right. I’m feeling a little ill now.
steve Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 8:17 am
You forgot about cocaine hitting our streets as well that led to a major crime wave in our cities and trickle down to rural America as well.
average james Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
I guess we libs are now forced to admit that trickle down does actually work, in some instances.
May 22nd, 2009 at 12:51 am
Also, during the revolutionary war the miltia members were hanged if they where caputered as they didn’t wear unifroms and therefore deemed “criminals” by General Cornwalis and weren’t subject to military court.
average james Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:08 am
Shall we act as Cornwallis did ?
May 22nd, 2009 at 12:57 am
Walla Walla is a correctional institution….and a city in Washington…for Dick it was the correctional institution (for the criminally insane).
You still meant Wasilla.
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:05 am
Has there ever been a new President who spent so much time bashing the previous administration?
average james Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:25 am
No administration has ever sunk to the level of torture before. Without precedent on both ends.
Perhaps Cheney should write a book. He could call it:
In defense of torture. or
The lighter side of torture. or
Torture, the misunderstood enhanced interrogation technique.
cdnrod Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:29 am
Or he could call it “we kept you safe for 7 years, Good luck Husein Obama”
Rocky the Liberal Rottweiler Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 5:43 am
And EXCEPT FOR 9/11 they did a heck of a job. Which means when it really mattered they were out playing with themselves, but once we were surrounded by smoldering ruins they got up right on top of their game.
Daddio Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 8:49 am
I guess you could add FDR to your list Rocky, of administrations that “were out playing with themselves,…” while Pearl Harbor was being attacked, to get “…up right on top of their game.”
Sarah Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:01 pm
WW2? Really? You’re bringing up WW2? As if it’s even a remotely similar global situation?
Wow.
TDro319 Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:22 pm
“You’re bringing up WW2?”
Sarah:
That means Daddio has nothing so he really has to dig deep to find something, ANYTHING.
Robert Blair Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Yep…Bush
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:20 am
And Wasilla is a another correctional institution for the mentally insane…
There ya go……spew all the garbage you want…you are as brain washed as all of ‘em.
Eric Goeke Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:46 am
I was kidding, Pino. I was joking with you, chill.
pino Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:05 am
Oh
Robert Blair Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Take two Antacid brain Cheney pills and call me in the morning LOL
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:28 am
No administration has ever sunk to the level of torture before.
Two words:
1. Clinton
2. Rendition
Rocky the Liberal Rottweiler Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 5:44 am
Yeah nice try. Tell us some more about Pelosi. That really impressed everybody the first ten thousand times.
Robert Blair Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Two words:
did not LOL
Just messin with ya…
The Clinton administration did not torture, nor did they authorize it. Rendition is not torture…it certainly is exporting responsibility, but that’s like registering a company in the a foreign land to avoid taxes….same twisted ethics….yeah, I said Clinton had some twisted ethics…sheesh…but, give me twisted ethics and a budget surplus any day LOL
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
May 23rd, 2009 at 3:05 am
Robert…the reason we have rendition is the false notion that if someone else does your dirty work your hands are clean.
the sole reason for rendition was to torture people.
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:28 am
Boy,you sure play mean banjo,Alan…HeeHeeHeee,Damnit4sure.
Phill Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:23 am
a damn danjo,THAT’S FUNNY!
May 22nd, 2009 at 2:09 am
“We’ve whittled the substance down to 2 minutes and 15 seconds.”
Yeah but what’s this stuff from Cheney? No substance there. Just a lot of toxic vapors.
May 22nd, 2009 at 5:46 am
WTC – February 26, 1993 Killed 6 … Injured 1,042
25 June 1996 Khobar Towers bombing Saudi Arabia
19 Americans one Saudi killed 372 injured
12 October, 2000 USS Cole 17 killed … 39 injured
August 7, 1998 Tanzania Kenya Embassy Bombings
Kenya 12 killed estimated 4000 injured
Tanzania 11 killed 85 injured
12 Americans in total killed
Combine these attacks with Clinton’s ineffective limited response and America showed its weakest which only served to emboldened the terrorist. Twice Clinton had Bin Laden in the crosshairs and didn’t have the balls to pull the trigger. Clinton cut defense spending three of the last four years he was in office. Add it all up equals 911.
The war cry from the Clinton Administration seemed to be “we don’t have actionable intelligence” … may-be a little water boarding would have changed that. After all desperate times call for desperate measures or so I’ve been told.
OldLefty Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 8:32 am
Your good buddies the Saudis killed everybody involved in the Khobar Towers before we could question them.
Bush Sr appointee , ambassador Barbra Bodine refuses to allow investigators in Yemin after the Cole.
The GOP screamed “no war for Monica”, and felt that NOTHING was more important than investigating Whitwater, travelgate, and Socks the cat…in the midst of all this, they even wanted to shut down the government…..they could care less about terrorism.
Meanwhile, after warnings from the Philippines that the high jackers of the Air India flight wanted to fly a plane into the Eiffel Tower, closing the airspace over the G8 at Genoa, because of a possible attack from an aircraft, we got: “No one could have imagined using an aircraft as a missile”…..please!
Funny how Clinton is the only one who actually successfully prosecuted the perpetrators of the WTC AND Oklahoma City.
Your guy wanted to turn the ports over to the UAE, who support and hunt with bin Ladin.
The war cry from the Bush Administration seemed to be: “we don’t ruffel feathers of those with whom we make tons of money”.
Daddio Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 8:54 am
“we don’t ruffel feathers of those with whom we make tons of money.”–Lefty
Tell me Lefty, what party doesn’t ruffel the feathers of those whom they make tons of money?
Birds of a feather:
Obama–Labor Unions
Obama–Hollywood
Obama–ACORN
Obama–Move-on.org
Just to name a few feathers with whom Obama doesn’t ruffel.
OldLefty Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 9:09 am
“Tell me Lefty, what party doesn’t ruffel the feathers of those whom they make tons of money?”
………………………
There is a difference between money for campaigns, (you’re the guys who believe that money = speech and wants to keep it in process), and your own personal fortune.
ACORN and Move on are NOTHING compared to Exxon Mobile and the Saudi royal family, and Hollywood, really??? like the actors or the big exceutives like Rupert Murdoch?
Daddio Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 9:14 am
What did Obama do with his 600 Million dollars he got during the campaign? Bush never received close to that.
Wher did Bush gain on his personal fortune during his Presidency?
OldLefty Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 9:25 am
“What did Obama do with his 600 Million dollars he got during the campaign?”
……………………………..
I think he ran a lot of ads.
The point is that the Bush/Cheney crowd have always made foriegn policy that benefits the industries where their personal fortunes lie… it does not have to be WHILE in office. It is before and after.
Long time Republican, Kevin Phillips:
“The Bush dynasty, Mr. Phillips says, put the “C” and the “I in “Conflict of Interest,” combining crony capitalism with a multi-generational taste for secrecy and deceit, from clandestine activity in and outside of government to questionable political connections, war profiteering and shady business dealings. The Bushes’ idea of capitalism, he says, is in essence one where capital gets the preferment from government to be able to make money from its control of government, with no obligation to the ordinary people who observe ethics.”
Daddio Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 9:29 am
Whoever Kevin Phillips is. Probably some disgruntled politician who was snubbed by the Bush Adm. You know, wanting to get even. I guess anyone can say anything on any given day.
OldLefty Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 9:33 am
Phillips was a senior strategist for Richard Nixon’s 1968 campaign which was the basis for a book, The Emerging Republican Majority, which predicted a conservative realignment in national politics, and is widely regarded as one of the most influential recent works in political science.
He gave the keynote speech at the RNC national convention for Nixon.
He was a big shot when the party legit, before they caved in far right looneys.
Daddio Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 9:38 am
Ok, thanks Lefty.
steve Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 9:47 am
My most recent post is about,before the party caved in to the far right.
I voted for Nixon and Ford,but the abuse of power by Nixon has that brand on him and president should taken a lesson from that. Dick Cheney sure in the hell didn,t take any lessons. He will be branded for life like Nixon.
Sarah Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
“The Bushes’ idea of capitalism, he says, is in essence one where capital gets the preferment from government to be able to make money from its control of government, with no obligation to the ordinary people who observe ethics.”
It’s called “no-bid military contracts.”
May 22nd, 2009 at 8:10 am
Funny how Republicans brag about keeping us save for 7 years…
They totally ignore:
1-Being asleep at the wheel on 9/11 3000+ dead
2- War in Iraq based on lies WMD and false view of Islamic attitude toward democracy. WMD Not found so either he moved to a group that hates us or he never had it.
3-Either way land invasion was bad strategy without Turkish front or boarder control terror groups could prepare for our entrance and blow our young men up. 4-4100+DEAD 100,000 injured and 100,000 Iraq civilians killed.
5- 100,000 Christian refuges scattered.
6–Afghanistan ignored which are now paying the price for.
7-Iran stronger then ever…
8-Billion spent.
9-Army spread thin so world not safer
So you cannot bring up not being attacked in 7 years since we have lost 4100 soldiers in a wrong war. More then were lost on 911 and 1000,00 injured.
If he had WMD or did not move them you could brag.
If Islam was ripe for A TRUE REPRESENTATIVE democracy you may be able to brag but at best they will be ruled as an Islamic democracy/code which is not what Bush dreamed of..Turkey is 98% Muslim. Not a diverse open cultural representative society.
And you cannot brag about it without taking responsibility for 911 itself.
The world is not safer ….
Iraq is in conflict with no internal desire for true freedom all we did by knocking out Saddam was to set the door open for Civil War for years to come. And make Iran a possible super power.
Was it worth all the blood of American soldiers NO
So before you brag about keeping us safe bow your heads in a moment of silence for the many who died there. In a war for nothing…..
4100 DEAD 100.000 IS NOT KEEPING US SAFE…but putting out citizens in harms way…
IT IS FEEDING THE TERRORISTS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT OUR YOUNG SOLDIERS TO KILL.
Bush admitted no connection to 911 and no WMD…
I would not be in a rush to brag…………….
goliath43 Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 7:05 pm
1.Being asleep at the wheel on 9/11 3000+ dead
Explain this to me when Bill had many chances to get Bin laden during his administration
2.War in Iraq based on lies WMD and false view of Islamic attitude toward democracy. WMD Not found so either he moved to a group that hates us or he never had it.
War was based on the intel that the president had as well as many of your Democrat friends.
3-Either way land invasion was bad strategy without Turkish front or boarder control terror groups could prepare for our entrance and blow our young men up. 4-4100+DEAD 100,000 injured and 100,000 Iraq civilians killed
The turkish government wanted set conditions and huge amount of money for the Fourth Infantry to cross their border. Colin turned them down.
5- 100,000 Christian refuges scattered
What has this got to do with the price of tea in China
6–Afghanistan ignored which are now paying the price for.
Afganistan has never been ignored and we are making great progress there.
7-Iran stronger then ever…
Again what has this got to do with the price of tea in China
8-Billion spent
As opposed to the trillions of dollars obama is spending with nothing to show for it
9-Army spread thin so world not safer
Thanks to bill with his defense spending cuts
Our world is a safer place without Saddam and his regime in power. We have been spared the horrors of war and destruction since 9/11 because of our brave men and woman would made the ultimate sacrifice to protest our borders
IT IS FEEDING THE TERRORISTS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT OUR YOUNG SOLDIERS TO KILL.
This constant dribble about an unjust war or a war for nothing does nothing but Dishonor those who fought and died to protect your freedom.
TDro319 Reply:
May 22nd, 2009 at 10:07 pm
1. 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch. He ignore the warning that Bin Laden was planning to hijack commercial airlines and use them as missiles.
2. Cheney cherry-picked the intelligence and told congress what he wanted them to hear.
3. I’m sure Colin took his marching orders from someone.
8. Billions spent (and lost) on the 2 useless wars, A big waste of money. Unlike the trillions that Obama is using to stimulate the economy and fix our crumbling infrastructure.
Our world is NOT safer. Saddam was holding all the other countries at bay. We have NOT been spared the horrost of war and destruction. We’ve lost 4000+ of our finest because of Cheney’s need to be rich on the backs of our soldiers.
This constant reminder that this war was a waste of time and life and we should NEVER again dishonor our troops by sending them to die for Dubya and the Dick.
And one last thought…you make a great armchair general. Too bad you’re not in Iraq risking your ass for this war you so love.
greedisdead Reply:
May 23rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
TDRO
So True and if they knew sll this from Clinton Administation why are they asleep at the wheel?
They try to have it both ways.
Hey I have up 8 runs in first inning but the rest I shut them down..
Are we suppose to applaud…and forget 911?
Guess so……
TDro319 Reply:
May 23rd, 2009 at 1:14 pm
“So True and if they knew sll this from Clinton Administation why are they asleep at the wheel?”
You might want to ask Dubya and the Dick, as we were attacked on 9/11 on their watch.
“Are we suppose to applaud…and forget 911?”
How can we forget? We have the Dickster on his national fear mongering tour reminding us of that fateful day. All he needs as a sidekick is Rudy “9/11″ Giuliani.
greedisdead Reply:
May 23rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Goliath
You like many conservatives hide behind the flag when anything critical is said.
1-You blame Bill for not getting Bin Ladden well guess what I am not a knee bender to any party like you so I hold him accountable as well However if you take responsiblity fot 7!/2 years of no bombings on you watch then you have to take responsibility for 911 and 4100 soldiers killed since for no cause.
2-If you critize Clinton for the Cole Bombings Embassey Bombings Kabul Towers etc and not getting Bin Ladden then when Bush came into office by definition he knew the threat Ladden was and did nothing but allow 911. For years Rush etc talked about threat of militant Islam so why was Bush asleep at the wheel? You cannot have it both ways…
Bush knew from day 1 and did NOTHING by your own definition.
3-You tell me your opinion why Turkey did not give us coverage on front but not why we went in despite no coverage? To use your own terms what does that have to do with tea in China?
5-You say we are safer how? Were terrorists Iraq? Bush himself said had nothing to do with 911? No WMD? No realestic shot at any kind of democracy.
You play down Iran being stronger one Weapons inspector testified Iraq overblown Weapons claims were done to Keep Iran at bay. Another said they had nothing. Well we let Iran know Iraq is no threat good job. If it stopped attacks why didn’t Cheney release documents when he was in power? He said it would in danger troops now he has no power he wants them released. He knew Obama’s plan. The same contradictions that go into this mess.
Same chess game and you fall for it.
6-Reason 100,000 christian refuges because of Civil War we set loose. Of cause you care nothing about that.
You say they made the ultimate sacrifice to protect OUR boarders WHEN did Middle East Boarders becomes OURS?
Tow questions
1-What have we won in Iraq? Please show proof unlike Cheney.
2-Could we have protected ourselves without invading Iraq? Could we have protected our real boarders and citizens? with our troops?
3-If strong homeland security would 911 have happened? If Bush read Tea leaves you mention from Clintons why not stop attack? Would invasion of Iraq prior to 911 stopped 911 of cause not. since they were not Iraq’s
4-Why did we claim victory In Afgan years Ago if we never take eyes off tarket?
5-Typical neo con Obama spending to help US Citizens not only rebuilding foriegn nations. He is putting America First!
6-Israel Bombed Syrian WMD plant a year ago they did not go to war with Syria no naive nation Building. Took out sight..
Which is better strategy? Theres or ours..
Bush listened to the Inspectors that he wanted to listen to. He Treated Iraq like French occupied by Nazi’s during WW 11. Ignorant of culture ore geography our history.
Many former Bush Admistartion Officials inclusding Hass and Powell etc have talked about how this war was not needed.
I hate to say it but I have not seen such blind nationalism since 1933.
Danka
Robert Blair Reply:
May 23rd, 2009 at 1:00 pm
The myth about Clinton not going after Bin Laden is one of the most common lies of the radical right talking points. It is ironic that they now want to ignore talking about prior administrations.
Bush and his administration came into power with a total disdain for anything that came from the Clinton people. All concerns expressed about Al Quida, terrorism, intelligence, and/or national security were swept away in an ignorant swoosh of ideological fanatism.
Cheney symbolizes the complete collapse of moral and ethical leadership due to the panicked administration. America was attacked twice on their watch…9/11 and the anthrax attacks…and they couldn’t catch either perpetrator…so, they attacked Iraq
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Now, if all those nifty torture techniques worked so damn well, why did they stop them in 2005? Did we become less safe after they quit using them? If Guantanimo Bay and the Abu Garib incidents were separate the Abu Garib incidents only the work of a few bad apples, why are the techniques so similar? Why do the outside contractors appear in both places with both places having abuses? Remember, they “adjusted” Guantanimo procedures because some “went too far”. Why would you need a medic there if the torture techniques were safe?
Poor citizen Cheney keeps confessing to his own crimes. His torture rationalization tour will, unfortunate for him, lead to his own demise as a free person. If our government doesn’t prosecute the lawbreakers, some other nation will. Either way, we lost our honor beginning the day that Supreme Court was activist enough to put their man in the white house…..sad for America.
May 23rd, 2009 at 12:53 pm