RNC Attacks Obama For Going To A Broadway Show
Haven’t the Republicans yet learned to pick their battles? Forgetting how many days George W. Bush was off at his Texas ranch clearing brush (490) or at Camp David (487), the Republican National Committee has decided to go after Obama for having a Saturday night date with his wife in New York.
The Republican National Committee slammed the outing in an “RNC Research Piece”: “As President Obama prepares to wing into Manhattan’s theater district on Air Force One to take in a Broadway show.
GM is preparing to file bankruptcy and families across America continue to struggle to pay their bills. … Have a great Saturday evening – even if you’re not jetting off somewhere at taxpayer expense. … PUTTING ON A SHOW: Obamas Wing Into The City For An Evening Out While Another Iconic American Company Prepares For Bankruptcy.”
The RNC’s Gail Gitcho goes so far as to ask, ”If President Obama wants to go to the theater, isn’t the Presidential box at the Kennedy Center good enough?” Whatsa matter, Gail, somebody envious that their party doesn’t control the executive branch anymore?
Gee, I wonder if any other President of the United States has ever attended a Broadway show with his wife. Oh, wait, here’s Ronald and Nancy Reagan backstage at “Sugar Babies”, visiting with Mickey Rooney and Ann Miller on March 13, 1981.
And, by the way, they flew on a Gulfstream Air Force One, not a 747 Air Force One.
As for Bush II, frankly, I’m glad he took more vacation days than any other president in history, because possibly it mitigated the damage he did to us and the world.
libpatriot Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 12:57 am
I appreciate your getting us to see the bright side of this, Rocky!
Phill Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 11:55 am
A good point Alan does make here is?”Oh,Wait,here’s Ronald & Nancy Reagan backstage on March 13, 1981″At that time,the U.S was in the biggest resession since the Depression.Long lines at the Gas pump,the unemployment line,the welfare line,NYC was in Bankruptcy,&(soon 2 return,it’s inevetable)record inflation…This pales in compairison to this mess today,but here he is in all his glory,The Blessed Leader of U.S,The free world,The Republican Party taken in a Broadway Show,with his wife in 1981…
Phill Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Don’t get me wrong?I like Reagan,I think the(cowboy/actor/CIA informant) was either best President in 60 years or the luckest President in 60 years.
Phill Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Well, I will put Clinton in a tie with Reagan,for the luckest President in 60 years…Sorry 4 the typo guy’s”either the best President”Damn caveman with a keyboard & going blind reading & getting old…God Bless America & help your blind & foolish people…
Phill Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 1:18 pm
In all fairness to Jimmy Carter,NYC went bankrupt in 1976,he inherited a Bad Economy too.But when he left office,it didn’t improve,if anything it was worse…
May 31st, 2009 at 11:09 am
Whatsa matter, Gail, somebody envious that their party doesn’t control the executive branch anymore?
The difference, of course, is that none of the past Presidents lambasted private executives for using private jets. Oh yeah, and they never said “We don’t have any money.”
Just like it was fine for the GM execs to fly to Washington, it’s fine for The Blessed Leader to fly to NYC. But it’s appearances that matter in today’s financial environment.
So, is it okay to fly corporate jets. Or, well, not?
RDM Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 11:56 am
Or a flying carpet, or a camel, or a rickshaw.
May 31st, 2009 at 11:47 am
Obama did say that America is broke, had no money so where did he get the money to fly Air Force One?
Tell CEO’s how much to make and to not fly their private jets yet he does the opposite.
Obama’s motto to America: “Do as I say, not as I do”
RDM Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Obamas next book will take on the question,” Is there such a thing as spending too much”.
Duh…Nope!
May 31st, 2009 at 11:56 am
If you, Alan, believe and liberals believe what you posted above then why do liberals divide America into groups? Liberals have devided America into groups of gay Americans, black Americans, Hispanic or Latin Americans, feminist, have created so called Hate crimes only if committed against these groups.
It is the liberal in America that have created or grouped Americans into groups and devided Americans.
Um Cara Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Willy,
You just divided Americans in this very post. ‘Liberals’ vs. ‘non liberals’.
Why do you perpetuate what you proclaim to hate?
Daddio Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 12:45 pm
If that is what you choose to believe.
Um Cara Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 1:04 pm
I shouldn’t believe what you post?
Daddio Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 1:12 pm
You and many other liberals here don’t usually believe what I post. That is up to you.
Um Cara Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 10:10 am
Willy,
You and many other liberals here don’t usually believe what I post. That is up to you.
My point is that I did believe what you posted, then you seemed to be telling me not to. Now you seem irritated that people don’t believe what you post.
You have issues, dude.
You post indicated that you separate the world into ‘liberals’ and ‘non liberals’, then you complain about people splitting folks up into groups. So…
Stop being part of the problem.
May 31st, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Alan Colmes–The Professional Spin Artist!
He can spin anything Obama does into something GREAT for America.
How much is Obama paying you Alan? Probably not enough.
:)
libpatriot Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 2:44 am
How much does Rush pay you to regurgitate all his talking points on this site?
Robert Blair Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 2:55 am
It is sad that you resort to such pathetic tactic…..and you forgot all the money he saved by having his mother in law babysit the kids. LOL….
Much ado about nothing…..
Kregg Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 10:04 am
Daddio said: How much is Obama paying you Alan? Probably not enough. :)
K: BO is paying Alan exactly what he is worth, most likely…
May 31st, 2009 at 12:10 pm
No other President has told CEO’s how much they should or shouldn’t make. No other President has criticized companies for hosting parties/getaways while the rest of America suffers (remember Vegas). No other President has said over and over we need to make sacrifices in order to get through this, all the while living off the fat.
I remember democrats criticizing Bush for taking days off.
I guess it’s okay for obama to live it up, waste money on flying here and there (or just flying a plane for pics) leaving a HUGE carbon footprint (thought that was a no-no?) and wasting MORE taxapayer money.
Daddio Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Exactly right Blissful. Obama roundly criticized AIG CEO’s and top brass and other CEO’s in America for doing exactly what he is doing.
IF WE DON’T HAVE THE MONEY MR. PRESIDENT THEN HOW CAN YOU JUSTIFY USING AIR FORCE ONE JUST FOR A PHOTO OP AND USING AIR FORCE ONE JUST TO ATTEND A BROADWAY PLAY. And by the way how much did their lavish dinner cost the taxpayers?
OldLefty Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 12:45 pm
You guys are truly astounding.
I think Democrats would be more challenged if the GOP had decided to be grown ups and taken the tack that ‘the people have spoken, we need to work with the Democrats, while coming up with and adding our own ideas, instead of “bitterly” complaining and mud slinging when the Democrats do something that is less, greater or equal to something that the Republicans have ALWAYS done.
And of course, ALWAYS respond with, “HOW DARE YOU POINT OUT THAT WE DID IT MORE?? Just because we did it doesn’t mean YOU can do it!!!”
YOUR guys don’t criticize the salaries of ceos, they just want taxpayers to keep bailing them out while they rewarding themselves for failure.
I guess Obama should move out of the Whitehouse, and fly commercial….should he not get to go anywhere, (because the secret service expense is great no matter where he goes, and would be more inconvenient to the public if he used another form of transportation).
You have a case when he spends more money on stagecraft for photo ops than Bush did.
Kregg Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 10:05 am
Left said: YOUR guys don’t criticize the salaries of ceos, they just want taxpayers to keep bailing them out while they rewarding themselves for failure.
K: Lefty, doesn’t this statement ring hollow after the events of the last 100 days or so?
blissfulconservative Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 10:12 am
Old
Guess what? I didn’t want over 300 grand of our tax dollars spent to fly air force 1 over New York scaring thousands of new yorkers just so they don’t have to use photo shop. I also don’t want hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars going to honey’s night out while the economy is in the crapper, especially since I got lectured on how I should spend my own hard earned money.
Um Cara Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 10:14 am
I guess Obama should move out of the Whitehouse, and fly commercial….should he not get to go anywhere, (because the secret service expense is great no matter where he goes, and would be more inconvenient to the public if he used another form of transportation).
Well, I think he should continue to live like a president, which includes using Air Force One for transportation, and he should attend cultural events and what not.
But while I think he should live like a president, I also think he should act like a president as well. Which means he shouldn’t be in the habit of micromanaging businesses, or whining about CEOs using private jets (as mentioned, Obama’s ‘company’ is in pretty horrible financial shape as well).
It isn’t presidential.
OldLefty Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 10:15 am
“Lefty, doesn’t this statement ring hollow after the events of the last 100 days or so?”
………………….
Quite the contrary. That statement assumes that there is some consensus that Obama’s policies are wrong headed, and that is just a matter of opinion.
Being a lefty, I am of the opinion that he is still too sympathic with the Wall Street people who caused the mess, as evidenced by his keeping and elevating Giethner.
If ANYTHING rings hallow, I think it is the Republicans complaining about money and spending….NOW!
Going out for a while.
Danielle Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Oh Please, it’s a Broadway show for godsake. What’s next: He uses too many paper towels?
blissfulconservative Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 8:53 pm
So let me get this straight. You don’t have a problem with him telling everyone else how much they should make or spend but we don’t have the right to tell the guy who is supposedly working for US how much he should spend?
He has made such a big deal about how much CEO’s make, how much corporations spend and now you give him a pass on everything?
Danielle Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Again, it’s a BROADWAY SHOW! I think you guys are over-reacting just a tad!
Unnecessary war ~ Broadway show?!?!?!?!
Condoning torture ~ Broadway show?!?!?!?!
Shredding USA reputation ~ Broadway show?!?!?!
3rd world-like Katrina response ~ Broadway show?!?
Embarrassing stupid ~ Broadway show?!?!?!?
Lowest approval rating EVER ~ Broadway show?!?!?!
Utilizing a little bit of perspective would be nice. But I know that’s not possible.
Next Headline:
“Obama orders the biggie size fries, while the rest of us order from the value menu”.
blissfulconservative Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 10:59 pm
One more thing….how many of you liberals lambasted Palin and the GOP for spending money on clothes during hard economic times?? Hmmm? For spending money on transporting her family from home to the Governor’s mansion in Alaska???? Take a long hard look in your liberal mirror.
OldLefty Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Liberals AND Republicans lambasted Palin for spending money on clothes because that’s not what people donated it to her campaign for.
They, and the state of Alaska lambasted her for as the AP reported:
often the children were not invited to the events the governor attended, but she brought them anyway and charged the government.
The AP also reported that Palin ordered the children’s travel expense forms changed in August to add language claiming that they performed official state business on the trips.
Alaska law allows governors to charge the state for their family’s travel if they conduct state business. State Finance Director Kim Garnero said the governor’s staff has the authority to make that determination.
But event organizers told the AP they were surprised when the girls showed up, and some said they had no role.
OldLefty Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 8:18 am
This is why Republicans get accused of projection:
“Old, you wanna bring up Katrina AGAIN….the past and not address what THIS president who you elected is doing. Typical. “
Remember, “Counselor Bartlett made up a DVD of the newscasts so Bush could see them in their entirety as he flew down to the Gulf Coast the next morning on Air Force One.”
“It’s a standing joke among the president’s top aides: who gets to deliver the bad news? The bad news on this early morning, Tuesday, Aug. 30, some 24 hours after Hurricane Katrina had ripped through New Orleans, was that the president would have to cut short his five-week vacation by a couple of days and return to Washington.”
I think it takes either a lot of nerve or the naiveté of one who desparately needs to believe, to demand that no one should bring up Katrina….That’s like saying,
“Sure, I got drunk, and stole a car, and crashed it, but don’t bring THAT up every time I criticize YOU for having a glass of wine.”
The behavior of the last administration in a emergency, should PRECLUDE criticism of this president going to a play during an on going economic crisis, (about which some say is beginning a slow recovery).
They did take a smaller plane, and did you question how much money Bush spent going to and from Crawford?
As libpatriot said, “. Do you cons here expect the rest of us to believe that when George visited Crawford, he traveled there by Greyhound?”
Are the Obamas only allowed to enjoy themselves, inside the Beltway?
And when did Obama “criticized average AMERICANS who are paying for him to live in that house for spending their money how they see fit”?
Daddio Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 8:43 am
The average American Lefty is the ones being taken to the cleaners by these huge bailouts. Started by Bush and exasperated by Obama three fold. Do you realize that the Federal Government will hold about 72 percent of GM stock when GM files for bankruptcy?
Obama has officially nationalized GM and Chysler and several banks. SOCIALISM. That is what Hugo Chavez did in Venezuela. SOCIALISM. You cannot argue that isn’t SOCIALISM.
That is how Obama IS spending OUR money.
Liberals accuse Republicans of just about anything because they are Republicans. The big bad, evil party in the liberals eyes.
Daddio Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 8:51 am
And Katrina comes up once more, by those who are cherry picking only the facts that they can use against Pres. Bush.
Funny how you conviently forget to mention the Governors lack of responsibility and prepardedness.
Funny how you conviently forget to mention the Mayor and his total lack of responsibility in blaming Bush for not getting help to evacuate citizens of NO, ALL THE WHILE THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF SCHOOL BUSES JUST SITTING THERE WAITING FOR THE FLOODS TO OVERWHELM THEM. And Mayor Nagin did ABSOLUTLY NOTHING.
There is plenty of blame to be put on the shoulders of the Governor of Louisiana and the Mayor of New Orleans.
OldLefty Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 9:09 am
If they can help GM, good, the ceos have had 25 years to drive the economy into the ground….the government can’t do any worse than the ceos have done.
If you want to see the real problem, look to the Garn-St. Germain Depository Institutions Act of 82.
Read the Prompt Corrective Action Act….The law mandates that the government should take over the banks, put them into receiverships, clean up the toxic assets, then sell them back to private investors.
This is what happens when you gut regulations, and put the foxes in charge of guarding the chicken coop,….For 25 years we have been surprised when the foxes eat all the chickens, say they need more chickens, then eat them,and cry for more.
I don’t care if you call it socialism or regulated capitalism, the Laissez Faire supply side approach has resulted in disaster.
And isn’t it true that ‘Conservatives accuse Democrats of just about anything because they are Democrats. The big bad, evil party in the conservative’s eyes’?
OldLefty Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 9:15 am
Daddio,
And Katrina comes up once more, by those who are cherry picking only the facts that they can use against Pres. Bush.
……………….
It is the GOP talking point, “State and local…the buses…”
The bottom line is, Fema worked very well when it was brother Jeb’s state, before an election.
And here, the main point is comparing Bush eating cake with Mccain, and Obama going to a show.
Kregg Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 10:09 am
Danielle predicts Next Headline: “Obama orders the biggie size fries, while the rest of us order from the value menu”.
K: Danielle, the issue would not be the fries – but what the American People paid for him to fly off somewhere to order them. It costs MILLIONS to move the President around the country and, in light of his recent criticism of private individuals using their private jets, his rhetoric seems a bit disingenuous when he uses OUR money to take HIS wife on a date.
blissfulconservative Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 9:43 pm
If this were a republican President you wouldn’t argue this for a minute. Your opinion that the war was unnecessary, your opinion on torture, your opinion on the US reputation (which by the way, when’s everyone gonna hold hands and sing kumbaya like you thought once Obama was elected?), Your opinion that anyone was embarrassing stupid (TOTUS, all I gotta say), and the approval rating was low when he left….let’s see where this guy’s is when he leaves.
You should use some of that perspective you demand and realize that when you criticize everyone else for what you see as unfair use of money (Ceo pay, parties, travelling on jets, etc) you can’t turn around and do the same thing without criticism.
Marie Antoinette. Nuff said.
Danielle Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 9:55 pm
I’m not as one-sided as you are Bliss. I could care less if a Republican President or Democratic President goes to a Broadway show! Again, some perspective please!!!! Again, I know that’s pointless to even say!!!
OldLefty Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 9:58 pm
“Marie Antoinette. Nuff said.”
……………………
Wow, from a supporter of the guy who literally ate birthday cake with John McCain while New Orleans drowned….I know, it’s all “state and local, state and local…”
Danielle Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Like I said….keep digging that hole. You only hurt yourself.
Danielle Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 10:03 pm
That’s right Old Lefty ~ somehow nothing about the Katrina nightmare was Bush’s fault according to Bliss. Now had it been a Dem President, it would be all their fault.
blissfulconservative Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 10:08 pm
You guys really are full of it on this one. Step back, take a breath and think about it.
Old, you wanna bring up Katrina AGAIN….the past and not address what THIS president who you elected is doing. Typical.
Not just me who sees it that way…..believe it or not there are liberal posters who see it that way too.
You don’t tell people they make too much, spend too much, have too much then turn around and trip the light fantastic on the TAXPAYER’S dime.
blissfulconservative Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Danielle
I have the common sense to know that mother nature plus not being prepared at the local level does not equal blaming the federal government, much less one man. Who do you blame for the coal fire ash spill?? It was an environmental disaster…what did the federal government do about it? Hmmm.
Once again, you and old lefty high five each other and keep your heads in the liberal sand. Your unwillingness or ability to see the hypocrisy in his actions just prove that you are partisan and blind.
Danielle Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Yeah Bliss…you’re not partisan. What a joke. You, more than any conservative on this site – have absolutely NO ability to see outside that tiny, tiny GOP box you have yourself encased in.
I have criticized Democrats on this site many times, I have never once seen you disagree or criticize a Republican, no matter how ridiculous it is.
blissfulconservative Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Danielle
You have said that before and you are dead wrong. You can ask a multitude of posters and they will tell you I can think outside the box, and I have criticized republicans. I don’t always tow the party line, though i can’t say the same for you.
This is rediculous. If you can’t see how wrong it is for him to have criticized average AMERICANS who are paying for him to live in that house for spending their money how they see fit then I don’t have the time nor the inclination to answer anymore of your posts on this topic.
Lily Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 1:47 am
Danielle Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Yeah Bliss…you’re not partisan. What a joke. You, more than any conservative on this site – have absolutely NO ability to see outside that tiny, tiny GOP box you have yourself encased in.
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I couldn’t agree more.
Cue Jarad to come to her defense.
JaredfromTexas Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 5:09 am
LILEE,
Since I’ve been invited:
BLISS has on many occasions criticized republicans for their actions on the economy and the wars…you two being relatively new wouldn’t realize that. I’d invite you to stick around and you’ll see sooner than later.
I’ll have to say BLISS is right…the left seems to love the double-standard…do as I say, not as I do…mantra.
The left-wing congress was up in arms about executives arriving in washington on private aircraft, effectively forcing them to drive to future meetings.
Obama is dipping his hand into how much GM can spend on their marketing campaign…he wants less spent.
The country is still in a recession…the stimulus HAS NOT worked like Obama is touting…and he’s off on his own private jet – on MY dime – to catch a play and dinner.
Here’s a question for you: when a partisan calls another person a partisan…does that cancel each of them out?
Kregg Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 10:10 am
Danielle said: somehow nothing about the Katrina nightmare was Bush’s fault…
K: What about hurricane Katrina was Bush’s fault?
Um Cara Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 10:18 am
K: What about hurricane Katrina was Bush’s fault?
The horrible response. His praise of ‘Brownie’ for doing such a terrible job.
We were unprepared, and there was a whole federal structure meant to deal with this type of event.
The buck stopped with Bush – it is fair to blame him for the terrible response.
Robert Blair Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 2:55 am
I heard that he uses Brawny because it starts with a “B”
Danielle Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 5:36 am
Jared _
I’ve been on here for more than a year; if Bliss has ever criticized a Republican – I’ve certainly never seen it.
Lily Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 4:27 pm
And I’ve been on for nearly a year.
May 31st, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Let’s not forget that it’s The Blessed Leader who is ax’ing America to turn down their thermostat but then, when in the White House, turns it up so as to replicate the temperatures in Hawaii.
Nice.
TDro319 Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 1:31 pm
First they proclaim Obama to be their “blessed leader”, then they chastize him for appearing on Jay Leno, now they’re complaining he took in a broadway show. I smell desperation eminating from the republican party.
Danielle Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 8:53 pm
The Republican Party has nothing else left; this is the nonsense they must resort to. Meanwhile….they don’t realize they just keep digging that hole deeper and deeper.
Robert Blair Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 2:57 am
Well now….ebonics? I’m glad you acknowledge some form of climate change being an issue….you just eclipsed half the Texas congresspeople with that revelation…
May 31st, 2009 at 12:41 pm
they just want taxpayers to keep bailing them out
Who said that?!?! We have always felt that this was a bad idea. It was bad when Dubya did it and it is way WAY bad now that Obama has accelerated it.
pssst, still waiting for the data based opinions showing that this is all a good idea…..
You have a case when he spends more money on stagecraft for photo
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May 31st, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Don’t know about that PINO, I DO remember Dick, “they will welcome us with flowers”, Cheney leaving all the lights on in his VP Residence Neocon secret location catacombs… because he could, and wanted to, and didn’t want to change his rich lifestyle.
Daddio Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 1:28 pm
“…in his VP Residence Neocon secret location catacombs…”–
The secret location of which VP Biden has now disclosed to the world. Thank you VP Biden.
Um Cara Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Well, I think they needed a new secret location anyway. I doubt Biden wanted Cheney to know where the secret bat cave was.
May 31st, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Cheney leaving all the lights on in his VP Residence
Okay. Did he chastise the rest of America for NOT turning their lights off?
TDro319 Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 1:32 pm
“Okay. Did he chastise the rest of America for NOT turning their lights off?”
No. Cheney did something much more elaborate. He started two unnecessary wars which costs hundreds of thousands of lives.
JaredfromTexas Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 4:41 pm
yawn…
He started two unnecessary wars which costs hundreds of thousands of lives.
…that Obama and the Democrats voted to keep going…despite their united campaign promises…
I’m surprised you’re still using this line, TDRO considering your precious Dems “abhore violence”
TDro319 Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Yawn….
It seems Jared is bored of all this talk about our soldiers being killed. It makes his blessed leader, the Dickster, look bad.
And I myself, and I speak only for myself, do abhore violence.
JaredfromTexas Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 6:01 pm
TDRO,
You’re pathetic….you stated in a recent post:
“All liberals abhore violence and torture…”
Which means, you were speaking for all liberals and not just yourself.
Pathetic…
You just can’t bring yourself to admit that Obama and his Dem Congress have just extended these “two unnecessary wars”, can you?
I’ll tell you what…everytime you interject this line into a post…I’ll follow up with this little nugget..deal?
May 31st, 2009 at 1:29 pm
they just want taxpayers to keep bailing them out
Who said that?!?! We have always felt that this was a bad idea. It was bad when Dubya did it and it is way WAY bad now that Obama has accelerated it.
You have a case when he spends more money on stagecraft for photo
This one?
online.wsj.com/article/SB124084127590859371.html
OldLefty Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 1:56 pm
” We have always felt that this was a bad idea”
You guys ALWAYS say that,after the fact, but you never say it when it matters, you always wait until the Republican’s approval ratings are irreparable
You know that this is not the same kind of photo op…One that promotes Air Force One, as in all the other previous routine photo ops, over the Grand Canyon, or Mount Rushmore, etc., as opposed to one that promotes the president like mission accomplished, or the one in New Orleans.
At least someone resigned over this….Who resigned over 9/11, wmd, abu Gh…oh never mind.
May 31st, 2009 at 1:36 pm
He started two unnecessary wars
Stick to the point. We are talking about wasted money.
Is it fine for the Pres to go to broadway show? Yes.
Is it fine for him to do that after telling execs that THEY can not fly on private jets. Or go to Vegas? No.
Sheesh.
Um Cara Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Is it fine for the Pres to go to broadway show? Yes.
Is it fine for him to do that after telling execs that THEY can not fly on private jets. Or go to Vegas? No.
You guys have to admit, Pino does have a point here. The government is in way more debt, and much worse financial shape than the companies whose executives Obama chastised.
Obama should be pinching pennies if he is going to micro manage the corporations (or even better, he shouldn’t be micro managing the corporations).
TDro319 Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 2:02 pm
“Stick to the point. We are talking about wasted money”
So you think the trillion dollars spend on these wars wasn’t wasted? Sheesh.
And I DON”T think Pino has a point. Bush did the same thing when he was in office – but that’s okay since he was the president at the time.
Um Cara Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 2:18 pm
And I DON”T think Pino has a point. Bush did the same thing when he was in office – but that’s okay since he was the president at the time.
We usually agree, but not on this one. Bush had many faults – worst president in my lifetime, but the point here is that Obama has gotten all up close and personal with how businesses should spend their money, and the ‘company’ he works for is more broke than any of the corporations he chastised.
I’m glad he enjoys the arts, I don’t sweat my President living all presidential like – but he probably should tighten the purse strings in symbolic ways if he is going to get all huffy and superior with others.
craig7120 Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Way off point… UM, Brian Greene has a great talent in capturing in print his thoughts. Not even half way through the book (fabric of the cosmos) but can easily say that this book is gonna be a gem. Thanks dude and will pass the same recomendation along.
Um Cara Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Glad you are enjoying it!
blissfulconservative Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Hey TDRO, Pino had a point but you don’t get it. YOu are a true partisan.
TDro319 Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 7:20 pm
I’m sure you have a point too, Blissful. And if you wear a hat, nobody will notice.
sky Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Pino’s point is idiotic while TDRO’s right on the money: WAR is a hell of a lot more expensive and morally reprehensible than going to a Broadway show! Thank God we finally have a president who supports the arts! (also an American industry, by the way)
Hope for Change Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Are you seriously comparing War to a Broadway show? OMG, what are you smoking?
May 31st, 2009 at 1:38 pm
For some people like rush, hannity ,savage,beck,newt
ect.,their beef is not just loosing the election;
they can’t stand having a black man in the white house.
Their scar goes very deep.
I am afraid that Jeanine Garafolo was right.
Natoscha Carroll Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 7:14 pm
You are sooooo right. It is killing them that he’s in there!They are soo rude and disrepectful.So what that he took his wife to a broadway show. They are young couple with 2 young children, if he chooses to sit at Mcdonalds for happy meals everyday or take his wife out for dinner and a movie or spend a weekend at 6 flags riding a rollercoaster with his kids.Why is that news for the RNC.The economy was bad when Eric Cantor went to Brittany Spears concert was it not? They all need to GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!!
May 31st, 2009 at 3:50 pm
They’re complaining about GM? The Republicans voted AGAINST giving them money!
Hey GOP! The country wised up to your idiocy!
Wake up and act like adults!
JaredfromTexas Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 4:42 pm
“Wake up and act like adults!”
Ditto
RDM Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Your diaper needs changing.
TDro319 Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 7:21 pm
“Your diaper needs changing.”
I think that’s your own diaper you smell. =)
sky Reply:
May 31st, 2009 at 6:41 pm
but not violent adults… okay?
May 31st, 2009 at 3:51 pm
So let me get this straight. You don’t have a problem with him telling everyone else how much they should make or spend but we don’t have the right to tell the guy who is supposedly working for US how much he should spend?
That is right. When people who actually contribute to the economy fly a private jet, well, hell, THAT is crazy crazy talk. But when O’bey decides HE wants to fly his wife because he made some stupid silly pillow talk promise, well, chit, fuel ‘er up!
libpatriot Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 2:31 am
Those “people who actually contribute to the economy” you mention are the people whose stupidity, shortsightedness, and greed contributed to the NEAR-FAILURE of our economy.
May 31st, 2009 at 9:03 pm
“Obama orders the biggie size fries, while the rest of us order from the value menu”.
Right. We get it. And normally, the President attending a Broadway show is fine. But here is the rub. He just excoriated corporate America for being over the top crazy when it comes to spending money. HE, the President of the United States of America, decided that certain companies were spending too much money on salaries. So, when YOU are the one PREACHING, then YOU should be the one LEADING.
Stupid stupid president. Stupider stupider people who elected him.
May 31st, 2009 at 9:54 pm
I could care less if a Republican President or Democratic President goes to a Broadway show!
Could you care how auto execs arrive in Washington?
Could you care how much a private company pays it’s own employees?
libpatriot Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 2:21 am
When they’ve come to beg for the taxpayer’s money, and when they’re giving some of that taxpayer’s money to the same employees whose decisions helped F-up the economy, then, to quote Moose-a-lini, YOU BETCHA!!!
May 31st, 2009 at 9:58 pm
somehow nothing about the Katrina nightmare was Bush’s fault
As opposed to local officials in Texas who, in preparation for an advancing storm, told people to write their SSN# on their forearms in Sharpies. That way authorities could identify the body.
Some local officials were responsible, others were, well, attending Broadway shows.
May 31st, 2009 at 10:06 pm
I have never once seen you disagree or criticize a Republican
But I have. And to e be clear, before “it was Bush’s fault” it was Mayor Nagin’s fault. And after his, it was the Parish. Then, well, you know, it was the State’s fault. And after ALL that, it was the Feds fault.
TDro319 Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 2:12 pm
No, no, no. You have it wrong Pino. It was never Bush’s fault. It was always Nagin, Parish, the state and then the fed’s fault. And let’s not forget the gays. They had a big hand in hurricane Katrina and the Tsunami.
Nothing is ever Bush’s fault. You should know that by now. Why, even the 9/11 attacks, even though they happened under Bush’s watch, was Clinton’s fault (or the gays, depending on who you choose to listen to).
May 31st, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Liberals AND Republicans lambasted Palin
And the point would be this; when spending is inappropriate from a Repub, both libs and cons point it out. When it’s a Dem spending like crazy, suddenly it’s only cons.
So, you have just pointed out that it’s LIBS that have the double standard.
libpatriot Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 2:33 am
We libs joined in lambasting people like Blago and Representative Dan “they’re My stamps” Rostenkowski, to name but two.
May 31st, 2009 at 11:30 pm
The CEOs of the Big Three automakers were excoriated by Congress for coming to D.C. in private jets on a mission to beg for the taxpayer’s money.
Those “certain companies” that were lectured by President Obama for spending too much on salaries were giving those high salaries to the same people whose greed and incompetent decision making sank their companies and deepened our economic crisis. If those “certain companies” didn’t want to hear the lecture, then they shouldn’t have taken the taxpayer’s money.
George W. Bush made 77 visits while President to his ranch in Crawford, TX, spending a combined total of over one year of his 8-year presidency there. A quick glance at any U.S. map will show you that Texas is much farther from Washington DC than New York is. Therefore, Dubya’s vacations to Crawford cost the taxpayers way more in jet fuel and left a much bigger carbon footprint than Obama’s trip with Michelle to check out Broadway.
Dubya’s trips to Crawford involved the use of the Air Force One jets. Do you cons here expect the rest of us to believe that when George visited Crawford, he traveled there by Greyhound?
blissfulconservative Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 12:45 pm
And now obama is wasting taxpayer money but you don’t want to gripe about that because you obviously voted for him.
I don’t remember bush ever taking over a car company, wasting taxpayer money on a car company, condemning CEO’s for how much they make, condemning CEO’s for flying on private jets, criticizing companies for having corporate functions in Vegas all the while affecting the hotel/entertainment industry, etc etc etc
TDro319 Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 2:14 pm
“I don’t remember bush ever taking over a car company, wasting taxpayer money on a car company,”
No, Bush just wasted money (and lives) on two unnecessary wars.
blissfulconservative Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Your are a broken record.
TDro319 Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 2:25 pm
“Your are a broken record.”
You’re an idiot.
JaredfromTexas Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Bush just wasted money (and lives) on two unnecessary wars.
…that Obama and his Dem congress just elected to extend.
June 1st, 2009 at 2:11 am
AS FOR BUSH AND KATRINA:
The Federal Emergency Mangement Agency (FEMA) was headed by James Lee Witt under President Clinton. Witt came into his appointment by Clinton with four years of experience as an emergency disaster relief expert. Witt stopped FEMA from spending most of its time and money on the outdated mission of preparing for a Soviet-style nuclear attack and got it focused on coping with natural disasters. Witt also cut about half of FEMA’s internal regulations to make it more efficient with its new mission. Under Witt, FEMA won praise for its handling of the aftermaths of the 1994 Los Angeles earthquake, several Midwestern floods, and several hurricanes in the Southeast.
Soon after taking office, Bush The Decider decided to fire Witt, and replace him with Joe Allbaugh, his campaign manager. Allbaugh had no emergency relief experience whatsoever, and neither did his successor Michael Brown, who previously served as a Republican staffer in the Oklahoma legislature (some might say the Oklahoma Legislature is a disaster, though, but that’s another topic). So, Dubya replaced Clinton’s experienced professional as head of FEMA with one political hack, then another.
Two Army Corps of Engineers projects to strengthen the levee systems around New Orleans, the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, and the Lake Pontchartrain and Vicinity Hurricane Protection project got their funds severely cut by Bush Jr. to re-route the money to–what else?–paying for his unnecessary war in Iraq (New Orleans City Business, editions of 2/16/04 and 6/6/05; New Orleans Times-Picayune, 9/22/04).
So, while George W. certainly didn’t create Hurricane Katrina, he made a mess of the fine agency that Clinton left him that was there to deal with the destruction left by natural disasters like Katrina.
And, as OldLefty has said, on the day Katrina moved onshore (August 29, 2005), Bush was too busy hanging with McCain at Scottsdale here in Arizona to celebrate McCain’s birthday to keep his eye on the ball with what was happening in the Gulf states that fateful day.
June 1st, 2009 at 3:49 am
“George W. Bush made 77 visits while President to his ranch in Crawford, TX, spending a combined total of over one year of his 8-year presidency there.”
And, at the risk of giving the Almighty a heart attack, merely out of surprise, I thank God that Bush spent all that time in Crawford, and only wish that Cheney, Rumsfeld, Tenet, Rove and Rice would’ve gone with him, because the world might’ve been a far far better place with all those people preoccupied with swilling their drinks of choice in the backhole of the nation.
And you can add all of Bush’s trips overseas to the lost time of his vacations, because if there was ever an exercise in futility it was George Bush going overseas to meet with foreign leaders.
June 1st, 2009 at 7:25 am
In fairness Bush had an office at his ranch in Crawford where he often held meetings with cabinet level officials. He also very often invited foreign leaders to the ranch for discussions. Many of his visits to his ranch could more accurately be described as “working vacations”.
TDro319 Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Wow. Bush had time during his year-long vacations to conduct a small amount of business? I should have that kind of working environment.
June 1st, 2009 at 9:08 am
on the day Katrina moved onshore
And the mayor was chillin, the Govna too. And the very people in the path of the storm….yeah, they were havin a party.
Fault all over the place. But put it where it belongs first, and then we’ll get to Dubya.
Um Cara Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 10:19 am
FEMA is meant to deal with these types of events, and they did a terrible job (and even still, Bush praised ‘Brownie’s’ performance).
It is perfectly reasonable to find fault with Bush re: Katrina (it is also old news).
June 1st, 2009 at 10:15 am
Wall Street people who caused the mess
Let’s be clear. It was government that caused this mess; not individual players.
Um Cara Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 10:21 am
The government forced banks to over leverage? The government forced companies to invest in derivatives, which even when they were doing well, no one knew how to properly value them?
Bad government! Bad, bad, government!
Kregg Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 10:23 am
Pino said: Let’s be clear. It was government that caused this mess; not individual players.
K: Pino, please do not disturb Lefty’s delusions about corporate America – they’re all she’s got.
TDro319 Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Kregg, why don’t you go back to whining about the rights of pre-conceived babies and refrain from criticizing OldLefty. I’m afraid she’s a hell of a lot more informed that you’ll ever be.
pierre Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 4:46 pm
No Cheney caused the mess with:
. an Enron
.and an Outron
Bush had no clue of what happened.
June 1st, 2009 at 10:17 am
It is perfectly reasonable to find fault with Bush re: Katrina
Absolutely. For sure. The conversation should start with the people that stayed, followed by the mayor [lets not forget the pictures of parking lots of buses under water] and the govna herself. There were failures at EVERY level.
June 1st, 2009 at 10:25 am
The government forced banks to over leverage?
They did.
Further, the government kept the price of money too low for too long.
Um Cara Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 10:30 am
Further, the government kept the price of money too low for too long.
Trust me, any expat will agree that Bush’s policy of printing money was a terrible, terrible thing.
But how exactly did the government force banks to over leverage?
June 1st, 2009 at 10:26 am
And then the biggie; Mark to market.
That was a blast!
June 1st, 2009 at 10:27 am
Let’s see, how to explain?
Consider a freeway. A freeway with 10,000 people on one side and me on the other.
If I put down $1 and offer it to anyone that is able to make it across the freeway, how many will try? None I suspect.
However, as I move the reward up and up, until I am offering $10k or $50k or even half a million, how many people will try to cross the freeway? More than none, and more and more as the reward goes up.
Who’s fault is that?
TDro319 Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 2:22 pm
“However, as I move the reward up and up, until I am offering $10k or $50k or even half a million, how many people will try to cross the freeway? More than none, and more and more as the reward goes up.”
Why thank you Pino for pointing out how stupid the banks were.
June 1st, 2009 at 10:29 am
But how exactly did the government force banks to over leverage?
1. Forcing loans to people who could not afford loans.
2. Then, after the loans were made, changing the way that accounting rules. All of a sudden, the paper that would have been worth $x is, in essence, worthless. This is why so many of the big banks failed seemingly overnight. They literally saw their backing go from whatever it was to zero.
Um Cara Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 10:38 am
This is why so many of the big banks failed seemingly overnight.
I have family on the board of a small local bank. They didn’t over leverage themselves. Were they breaking some kind of federal law by not over leveraging?
Kregg Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 10:42 am
Um said: I have family on the board of a small local bank. They didn’t over leverage themselves. Were they breaking some kind of federal law by not over leveraging?
K: Interestingly enough its small well-run banks in the Midwest that were least affected by this fiasco. I suspect they were immune to – or absent – the political pressure applied to the big banks to socialize the home mortgage loan industry.
June 1st, 2009 at 10:35 am
a small local bank.
Small local banks tend to hold their own paper.
June 1st, 2009 at 10:42 am
Trust me, any expat will agree that Bush’s policy of printing money was a terrible, terrible thing.
And yes, Bush printing money was a bad thing. Funny, just because he had an R behind his name, so many lefties feel we all give him our undying support. Bush acted more like a liberal than a conservative when it came to fiscal policy.
Kregg Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 10:59 am
Pino said: Bush acted more like a liberal than a conservative when it came to fiscal policy.
K: Very true…
June 1st, 2009 at 10:44 am
Alan said: Gee, I wonder if any other President of the United States has ever attended a Broadway show with his wife. Oh, wait, here’s Ronald and Nancy Reagan backstage at “Sugar Babies”, visiting with Mickey Rooney and Ann Miller on March 13, 1981.
K: Gee, I wonder if any other President of the United States has ever done so immediately after chastising private industry for doing so…?
June 1st, 2009 at 4:52 pm
This is so very sad. I can’t beleive the GOP is making a nite out for the president and his wife is the main topic for discussion in their circle. This is our president and he is a family man. I hope he continues to give his wife the type of attention that every women wants from her husband on a on-going bases.
Way to go Michelle…..
OldLefty Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 5:12 pm
“Gee, I wonder if any other President of the United States has ever done so immediately after chastising private industry for doing so…?”
……………………….
Chastising private industry for doing what?
Going to a play?
Not taking (as libpatriot said), a Greyhound?
Um Cara Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Chastising private industry for doing what?
Zooming around in private jets.
And his private jet is more expensive than anyone elses.
And his company is in worse financial shape than anyone elses as well (good thing he works for the one company authorized to print money and confiscate money at threat of imprisonment).
The moral of this story is not that Obama should not go to planes, or that he should take greyhound instead of airforce one.
The moral of this story is that Obama should not browbeat executives for behavior Obama himself engages in.
craig7120 Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Good points UM I wont argue with logic. Bad timing? not the issue, right? Transportation? bingo! So the pres. ticked off a few on the right and left with this jaunt on airforce one. I wish he would of took amtrak or that John Madden bus/rv. Now that would of been a photo op.
Um Cara Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 6:06 pm
I wish he would of took amtrak or that John Madden bus/rv.
Ha, that would have been cool! I like that there was some cash in the stimulus plan for Amtrak – we really need better public transportation in America.
I’m considering taking a year long holiday after I finish this gig, I’m thinking of doing a whole Amtrak tour of the country (at least what parts I can see from Amtrak).
craig7120 Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Yeah I gotta admit my interest in the rail industry is a selfish one. It pays my bills lol
Although we tease our amtrak brothers n sisters when they use ‘our’ lines, I will acknowledge we need them to prosper. Anyway sounds like an enjoyable and relaxing way to see the country.
OldLefty Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Um Cara,
Hey, it’s been a while. Here’s why I disagree:
He took a smaller plane.
Whatever he took, (he went to the kid’s soccer game in the morning) would involve motorcades and security, and time.
Anywhere he goes is an expense to taxpayers.
The RNC did not dispatch press releases filled with outrage when the Obamas traveled to Chicago for a weekend for Valentines day.
He browbeat executives for taking private jets (at shareholders expense) to DC to beg for money when they ran their companies into the ground. They don’t need secret service protection or access to staff and communications systems.
“Detroit couldn’t be allowed to collapse. It was one of the very few things the Obama transition team and the outgoing Bush administration agreed on in December and January.”
Apparently, a lot of economists are saying that this controlled bankruptcy is a good thing.
“Would the better move have been the one conservatives were calling for, just to let the companies go in December?
Given the far-ranging economic impact of any closures in the auto industry, most experts answered no.”
Um Cara Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Good points, Lefty – and don’t get me wrong, I think the RNC are big babies. I’m more ragging on Obama for his micro management than anything else. It isn’t Presidential to get into management decisions of individual US companies (let the guys in the House of Representatives complain about jet rides and such).
He needs to be Presidential. I think he has some growing pains…
But no, I don’t mind a bit that he went to the theater, and I want him to get there safely.
June 1st, 2009 at 5:06 pm
T2 said: This is so very sad. I can’t beleive the GOP is making a nite out for the president and his wife is the main topic for discussion in their circle.
K: They are actually commenting on him doing the same thing he chastised others for doing, Taylor. BO has basically killed Las Vegas tourism business with his denouncing businesses from travelling for pleasure and using corporate jets to do so – yet he’s doing the same thing…
Southern Girl Lib Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Nice spin there, Kregg, but the Las Vegas remark pertained to companies who were receiving bail out money. He did not say “Americans – don’t go to Vegas.”
If the president came up with a cure for cancer, your side would say that he should have found the cure sooner.
June 1st, 2009 at 5:13 pm
He did not say “Americans – don’t go to Vegas.”
But he DID say that Execs whose companies received TARP money shouldn’t.
O’bey
average james Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 6:07 pm
O’bey
That’s clever Pino. Kinda funny.
pino Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 6:11 pm
;=)
June 1st, 2009 at 5:47 pm
News over the weekend stated that three airplanes and a helicopter were involved in B.O.’s Date Night to NYC. Ironically, B.O. encouraged citizens not to go to Las Vegas to save money and lost LV tons of revenue/jobs. How much did this Date Night cost taxpayers in these financial trying period? Recall, B.O. administration also incurred the “flyover pix” in NYC for his public relations “program” and cost taxpayers $328,00 or so. Of course, responsible party was fired as is generally the solution for presidents and Congressional members. It’s not the Date Night that’s a problem. The cost of another B.O & MO PR endeavor is far too high in a financially precarious period.
June 1st, 2009 at 6:10 pm
I wish he would of took amtrak
Doesn’t run on time. Costs too much. Very uncomfortable. Basically a product that no one wants to buy; can’t blame him.
I wonder who owns Amtrak anyway…..
Oh my, how embarrassing.
craig7120 Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 6:35 pm
LOL..now that was funny. dude round trip ticket from stl to chitown is under 100. but hey fly away, I find rail service to be just a bit less frenzied.
June 1st, 2009 at 6:11 pm
we really need better public transportation in America.
Why?
Um Cara Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Environmental and economic reasons.
June 1st, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Environmental and economic reasons.
What metric would you use to gauge success?
Um Cara Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 6:33 pm
a higher reading on ‘good’ and a lower reading on ‘bad’, of course.
Ok, Ok…
- less fossil fuels consumed
- higher concentration of population in cities
Would be a couple big ones to watch.
June 1st, 2009 at 6:30 pm
- less fossil fuels consumed
- higher concentration of population in cities
Neither on of these things would be accomplished in your quest to see America via Amtrak.
The fact remains, mass transit only works in high, very high, density areas. And even then, it’s not cost effective.
See light rail in California being built. Or Chicago.
Um Cara Reply:
June 1st, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Neither on of these things would be accomplished in your quest to see America via Amtrak.
I did not suggest it would. I just like train travel, as long as we are tossing around trillions of bucks, Um Cara might as well get something he digs out of it. I sure didn’t get any tax rebates, I might as well get a ride on a choo choo train.
The fact remains, mass transit only works in high, very high, density areas.
Yep, and mass transit availability is one of those things that can encourage high density areas to form and/or prosper.
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