von Brunn Associate: More Incidents If Obama Doesn’t Assuage White Fears
TV Newser desccribes the media tour of white separatist John de Nugent, a James von Brunn acquaintance, who explains his post-shooting media strategy as he talked about “white heritage safety zones”.
I am sure you are aware of the James von Brunn situation. At least I was able to turn some bad PR lemons into lemonade last night and yesterday, and I got to 1) explain how understandable white anger is, and 2) how Obama needs to assuage heightened white fears about gun and speech control or he will, by everything he does, provoke even more incidents.
I was interviewed at length by ABC Good Morning America, ABC Nightly News, the CBS Early Show, Fox News (Sheppard Smith Report), NBC Nightly News, the Washington Post, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Bloomberg, and Associated Press.
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(Btw, the interview deal nowadays is the “great NY anchorperson” or reporter just stays put in New York and only a cameraman is there with me in a local studio. The reporter asks me questions from Jew York by speakerphone.)
von Brunn and de Nugent attended meetings together of the American Friends of the British National Party in Arlington County, Virginia. The BNP is a far-right whites-only party in the UK, whose American arm, since disbanded, raised money for its causes.
why are these idots labeled “far-right whites-only party”, if thats the case the label naacp the “far-left blacks-only party”.Just because your on the left doesn’t mean you can’t be a raceist or anti-semitic (rev.Wright)
Southern Girl Lib Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Want me to run down to the dry cleaners for you and get your white hood and robe out?
hhhhhah Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
where did that come from? Oh wait i said something that made you think.
placefield Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
Probably because they are far right and exlude anyone who is not white from membership. That would be my guess. And labeling them that way would be an acknowledge the fact that you can be far right and inclusive of races not an accusation that all far right ideology is racist. Although there does appear to be a trend.
EricG Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Pathetic. Just pathetic.
You and all your conservative cronies are all ticked off because you know it’s true.
You have to bring up Rev. Wright, who has nothing to do with this at all, because you are desperate to try and obfuscate the issue.
The issue of the day is of right wing extremism being propagated and widely encouraged by a select few media elite who present themselves as beyond reproach.
“Just because your on the left doesn’t mean you can’t be a racist or anti-semitic”
Just because your on the right doesn’t mean you can bigoted against Muslims and gays.
You need to take a strong drink your medicine on this one.
Wright represents nobody but himself. He doesn’t speak Obama or for The Democratic Party.
When will your side realize that Bill O’Reilly, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity do not speak for you?
average james Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
HHHHHAH,
You are not seriously trying to defend de Nugent, von Brunn and people like this are you ???
If you are then, wow, my respect level for you just seriously nosedived.
libpatriot Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 2:00 am
Hhhhhah, What statements has Jeremiah Wright made that prove to your satisfaction that he’s racist or anti-Semitic?
In his sermon ending with the now-famous soundbite, Wright remarks on mistreatment of native Americans and Japanese as well: pbs.org/moyers/journal/04252008/profile.html
Move the time forward (in Part I of the Wright profile) to 24 min, 19 sec into the program to see the sermon clip.
average james Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 2:22 am
Lib,
This is so typical of the loud right. The out of context quote, repeated ad nauseum, and bingo. Everyone thinks (fill in the blank) is a total wack job.
It’s despicable really, dishonest and dirty pool.
All the usual suspects are guilty of this crap, Rush, Hannity, Beck, Huckabee, Cunningham, Levin, Savage, Coulter, and the rest.
It sucks that it seems so effective. The sheeple eagerly await the next dose.
placefield Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 10:50 am
I does suck that it is so effective. Had a conversation with someone I work with last week. He is a really intelligent guy who happens to be republican. We tease each other a lot about political views but are actually really good friends. He started going off about Obama saying we are a Muslim nation. I pointed out to him how that came from an obvious misinterpretation of what was really said and showed him the actual segment of the speech that it came from. His response was that he didn’t actually follow it that closely. That is a big problem in this country on all political sides. We as a population will just accept a statement from a commentator as factual without really looking up the facts for ourselves. The right just seems to be capitalizing on this a little more lately.
Daddio Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Placefield,
You will hear more from the right. After all we are the party out of power. That is what happens. The Dems were very boisterous during the time 1995-2008. Especially 2001-2008. They were out of the majority. American politics works that way. Now when the Republicans regain power, which they will in due time, the Democrats will take the mantal of being the boisterouse party.
American politics. Don’t ya love it.
placefield Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 11:04 am
It can be entertaining.
average james Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Yes it can be entertaining.
Kinda rubbernecky, you just gotta look, gotta hear what(—–) said.
I admit, I’m kind of a political junkie.
At least we junkies are likely more well informed.
Daddio Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 11:17 am
I think we are more likely better informed than those who don’t follow politics. I agree with you on that.
It is fun though. Kinda like a weird type of fun, don’t ya think.
See ya.
placefield Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Just kind of politicaly waking up myself, and yes I am getting kind of hooked.
June 12th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
How is this different from Osama bin Ladin?
average james Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
It’s not.
Just a different race.
June 12th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
If you want all an all White, pure society then go to Germany, I guess. Get out of the United States. I’m a Southern white boy (with a dose of Ukrainian) and I think we should be thoroughly mixed together!
We started out mostly white but we’re a mongrel in a good way. We’re a wonderful melting pot and that’s one of the main reasons we’re such a great nation.
And I don’t know if it’s considered racist or politically incorrect to be proud of white heritage, but I really don’t care. I’m proud to be an American.
flap Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Let me clarify…I don’t care about my whiteness positively or negatively. I’m proud and happy to live in and be a citizen of the greatest country on God’s green earth.
placefield Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Being proud of your white heritage is not inherently evil. Everybody should have pride in there heritage no matter what it is. Unfortunately racist wingnuts have taken over the phrase white pride and turned it into something I personally want to distance myself from as far as possible.
flap Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
That’s a good point Place…”white pride” does kinda equal racism. But I seriously am MUCH more proud of being an American.
I’m also proud of being a Southerner. Not the “South will rise again” racist South, but the BIBLE-THUMPING, JESUS-LOVING, GUN-TOTING South!
YEEEEEEHAAA!
placefield Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Go for it,
The south gave us good BBQ, bourbon, and delta blues. For that I am grateful.
June 12th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Jew York?
Yeah up your backhoe too, schmuck.
June 12th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
“explain how understandable white anger is,”
Oh help me! I’ve been running the world for hundreds of years, holding all the power and all the money, making every decision for the sake of others to the detriment of others and controlling society with prejudice.
Woe is I, the white man in 2009.
I am so oppressed.
Someone walked across my lawn today and didn’t even care to look at me…
Oh look, a starving child from a impoverished minority neighborhood!
“Get out of here you damn beggars!”
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This is my general impression of all that I hear from conservatives.
Just anti-poor if they are not straight up anti-minority.
There’s a reason why there are so few black Republicans … because it’s they make their elections dividing the country over skin color.
Thus, once again:
Right Wing Extremists Killed Guard at Holocaust Museum
Choke on that headline Sean Hannity!
June 12th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
“Right Wing” Extremist? This loon has nothing to do with conservatism. He preached socialism, hates FNC commentators, hates the Jews and hate corporate America. Where does that fall on the political scale? Me thinks the left owns this nut-case.
TDro319 Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Just a few corrections here, David:
Liberals want healthcare for everybody. We belive nobody should lose their house and/or life savings to pay for healthcare. I don’t call that socialism. I call that compassion.
We only dislike hate-spewing commentators like Limbaugh, O’Reilly and Hannity.
And we like the Jews.
flap Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
To TDro, et al., hate = disagreement with liberal ideas.
TDro319 Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Flap:
You’re right about one thing. Since conservative values include hypocracy, starting unnecessary wars for profit, torture, trashing decesased doctors, controlling women and hating poor people, I do dislike conservative ideals.
OldLefty Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Don’t you wish?
Just one more piece of a disturbing pattern.
June 12th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
can we name this guy an enemy combatant…keep Gitmo open a bit longer.
June 13th, 2009 at 2:05 am
This twisted, hateful philosophy is hideous, no matter who spouts it. What is interesting is that the press is eager to make grotesque media stars out of men like these two, as well as the one who murdered the abortion doctor. (I don’t even want to write their names.) The same press is silent about the Islamic convert who murdered the soldier at the recruitment office, silent about the alarming words that Obama’s spiritual mentor and father-substitue, J. Wright uttered just three days ago.
OldLefty Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 8:00 am
maryalice,
I can’t see that the press is silent about the violence coming from any of these right wing wackos including the religious nutjob who killed the recruiter.
As for Wright, there’s ample coverage of him as well.
Maybe it’s time for the right to stop the incendiary rhetoric, about Obama, with no concern for anything other than ratings, knowing full well they are inciting the unstable people out there, and get their own house in order…..decide whether or not they have any values, what they are, then work on a platform.
All they are doing now is getting people worked up, then spinning to deflect the inevitable blame. But hey, even that bring in ratings.
June 13th, 2009 at 4:07 am
OldLefty; I don’t think so. The mainstream press obviusly have not made the Islamic convert who murdered the soldier at the military recruitment office into the media character that they have made of the men who murdered the abortion doctor in the church and the guard in the Holocaust museum. Of course, they mention him, they must, but they go no further. Why?
As far as J. Wright is concerned, we would know virtually nothing about his angry opinions if it were not for what you lefties call the mean right-wing radio hosts. The mainstream press was forced into reporting a little about him simply because everyone was already aware of him. There is no disgust from the mainsteam press about Wright’s comments from earlier this week. These are the type of comments that were an integral part of Obama’s world for two decades. Again, why?
Does anyone seriously doubt the bias of these mainstream press people anymore?
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OldLefty Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
maryalice,
From what I hear, and from the number of stories, the MSM which I believe is more corporate than anything, covered ALL of these right wing wackos from the doctor’s killing to the Islamic convert who murdered the soldier at the military recruitment office, to the guard in the Holocaust museum.
As a matter of fact, while CNN and MSNBC offered live coverage of a press conference held by a survivor of that shooting, Fox News did not, nor did it report later that day on the man’s remarks to the media.
You say, “The mainstream press was forced into reporting a little about Wright simply because everyone was already aware of him “…..I don’t think anyone thinks Wright is anymore important than Falwell or Hagee or Dobson, except those who are already predisposed to hate Obama. Plus anything I heard from Fox Cnn and MSNBC were 24 hour Rev Wight coverage, but little coverage of those on the right…..
Don’t forget Francis Schaffer called for the violent overthrow of the US government: “Every Sunday thousands of right wing white preachers following in his footsteps rail against America’s sins from tens of thousands of pulpits. They tell us that America is complicit in the “murder of the unborn,” has become “Sodom” by coddling gays, and that our public schools are sinful places full of evolutionists and sex educators hell-bent on corrupting children. They say, as Francis Schaffer often did, that we are, “under the judgment of God.” They call America evil and warn of immanent destruction.”, and he was invited to lunch with presidents Ford, Reagan and Bush, Sr.
There was also no disgust when Billy Graham’s similar comments about Jews came out……when he was talking to a sitting president, so spare me.
The left was screaming about pro Bush bias (until his approval ratings tanked).
You have nothing from the left to compare to “Muslim, terrorist, “bin Ladin better destroy America before Obama does” (Limbaugh,), Pouring gasoline, Obama should just shoot me in the head right now,” I’m thinking of killing Michael Moore,(Beck) “If federal agents come, you should take head shots” (G Gordon Liddy)….it goes on and on.
For me the question is, ‘Does anyone seriously doubt the violent hate mongering from conservative media??
For me the question is, ‘Does anyone seriously doubt the violent hate mongering from conservative media??
June 13th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
This is irrefutable proof James Van Brunnwas a rightwinger.
James Van Brunn was a frequent poster on the far-rightwing hate site “Free Republic”.
His postings were well accepted by the “Freepers”.
His hateful screed “Obama is Missing” is signed by him, IN HIS FULL NAME, James W. von Brunn, on December 02, 2008 It is still up on that site… check it out before it’s removed.
His Free Republic nick was “wannabegeek”… read his other rightwing hate posts.
Google Free Republic “Obama is Missing”
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:niXSYG-nVO8J:www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2141655/posts
Type in user, wannabegeek if the link below is broken and read von Brunn’s other rightwing rants as well as the “Freepers” hateful, SUPPORTIVE responses.
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:wannabegeek/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change
June 14th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Racism at it’s “finest”….
No matter your side of the political or religious spectrum, racism is the height and weight of true ignorance and arrogance in this country. Along with being overly-politically-correct, the two have the potential to drive a wedge straight down the middle between the American People. That cannot be allowed. I don’t give a damn if you’re a Liberal or a Republican. Racism is EVERYONE’S problem. The sooner the left AND right realize that, the better. Too bad it won’t happen…really sad actually.
average james Reply:
June 15th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
OK,
Good post AERYLON
June 15th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
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