Can Mark Sanford Please Stop Quoting The Bible
June 27th, 2009, 11:39 AM EDT
South Carolina’s governor continues to quote the Bible as he travels on his road to redemption.
The Republican governor, apologizing to state agency chiefs today for keeping them in the dark when he left for Buenos Aires for a rendezvous with his lover, told the Palmetto State’s Cabinet that King David will offer a guiding path for him.
King David fell mightily, the governor reminded his Cabinet, but picked up the pieces and built from there.
In his Thursday news conference, Sanford mentioned “God’s law” four times.
Gods law? And Sanford is the Sheriff?
June 27th, 2009 at 11:54 am
I think it’s a good strategy. Convince the voters that god wants him to remain in his position. If they are stupid enough to believe that, then they deserve him.
June 27th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Hey, this is why religion’s so great.
Cross yourself a few times and say some Hail Marys and the gates of heaven are just waiting to spring right open the moment you arrive.
blissfulconservative Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Rocky
maybe you don’t understand that God doesn’t expect us to be perfect.
Danielle Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
No he doesn’t, but too many people use that as a reason to not even try.
Rocky the Liberal Rottweiler Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 1:53 am
If there is a god, and he or she is omnipotent, omniscent, and eternal, there isn’t a person on this blog, or this planet, who’s qualified to even suggest what god might possibly want.
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 2:06 am
Rocky, you obviously haven’t read the bible…God has methods to let everyone know what he might possibly want.
EricG Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Guido – “God has methods to let everyone know what he might possibly want.”
And YOU, Guido, know exactly what these methods are and what they look like so you don’t miss them.
Because I know your not saying that you had a burning bush tell you the divine secrets.
You’re just reading the Bible and accepting one certain interpretation and calling that the ‘truth’ and it’s just one a endless array of ways to view the exact same words.
Guido – “Rocky, you obviously haven’t read the bible”
I have. Four times. And I disagree with every single so-called ‘lesson’ pulled from it by evangelicals and every brand of orthodoxy.
Rocky – “there isn’t a person on this blog, or this planet, who’s qualified to even suggest what god might possibly want.”
I am. You are as well. Just don’t turn around and tell someone else that your interpretation is applicable to them and their life. Then your doing us all a disservice, no matter who you are.
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 2:25 am
“I have. Four times”….I didn’t realize you were rocky, but that explains alot.
why do I even respond to you???
June 27th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
It’s a shame he didn’t read the Bible more often the last few years!
June 27th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Sanford’s is a path well traveled …
And most of all, to my Lord and my Savior, my Redeemer, the One whom I have served and I love and I worship. I bow at His feet, who has saved me and washed me and cleansed me. I have sinned against You, my Lord. And I would ask that Your precious blood would wash and cleanse every stain, until it is in the seas of God’s forgetfulness, never to be remembered against me anymore.
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/jswaggartapologysermon.html
That’s the great thing about the Bible, there’s a little something in it for everybody and all occasions. It’s like one of those Swiss Army knives or multi-tool things some of us carry on our belts, only in a literary way.
EricG Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Not only that, but you can turn the words around to fit your own perspective or thoughts on them.
You can do it to this passage or any of the passages we hear Bible-thumpers quote out over the radio.
It goes to show that reading the Bible is one thing and actually understanding it is another.
The problem becomes this:
Everyone says they understand the Bible and nobody agrees on anything in it except zealots and they don’t agree either they just agree not to argue in public about scripture.
So it’s all a wash. If someone can’t read the words and decide for themselves instead of being programmed by your local hate-preacher … then they will be ignorant, stupid and hateful.
Or in Sanford’s case just be deluded into thinking your anything but a scumbag for doing what he did.
blissfulconservative Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
OR, you could try and understand that God is like any father. He gives his children rules, tries to teach them the right thing to do and then gives them free will…all the while stands there with open arms and a forgiving heart if they mess up.
God doesn’t expect perfection.
average james Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Pretty good way to put it Bliss.
Well allright then.
average james Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Ya gotta admit,
Anonymouse’s post was pretty damn funny.
I think God’s big enough to take a joke, even when directed at Him. I’ll bet he snickered about the swiss army knife.
EricG Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
“God doesn’t expect perfection.”
Which is why so-called ’sinners’ like gays are perfectly healthy and perfect children of God.
‘Perfection’ would better defined as what conservatives claim to have in terms of ‘morality.’
If you really believed this statement I don’t see how you could hold a lot of perspectives native to conservative thought.
Daddio Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
We all are children of God, Eric. But not all of us are God’s children.
Gay Rob Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 12:54 am
Yeah, especially when daddy can’t follow his own rules. When you tell your son not to engage in adulutery, and then the father does.. Tell your children not to steal and then you have your Daddy Bernie Madoff who steals millions.
Yes, don’t think…just obey.I love to have daddys like that!
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 12:54 am
my question is this. Is he still going to screw his Argentine lover…if so then all this is just rhetoric and he’s a dirtbag, but I’m not his constituency, so…
June 27th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
The governor is what we used to call … a horndog.
But I have to admit traveling all the way to Argentina to satisfy himself sexually is setting new standards for horndogishness.
Sanford hasn’t heard of “Craigslist”?
Danielle Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
He was “hopelessly in love” Mouse :):)
anonymouse Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Let’s first see a photo of his Argentine girlfriend.
If Maria is 60 years old and looks like Granny Clampett, I’ll buy the “hopelessly in love” story.
If she looks like Jennifer Anniston, I’ll stick with my horndog diagnosis.
libpatriot Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
Anonymouse, she looks more like Jennifer Aniston than Granny Clampett, I think. You decide:
youtube.com/watch?v=uphohZs9nuQ&feature=related
In this video, Maria Belen Chapur is reporting on the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks for Argentine television.
EricG Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
“Sanford hasn’t heard of “Craigslist”?”
LOL!
That’s a good one.
libpatriot Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 2:10 am
Yet another zinger from the Mouse!
June 27th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
He’s a horndog, she’s hot.
pierre Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
That horn should be LORENA BOBBITised, you think!!
by the wife of course!
jazmine Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 12:11 am
lol, No, I hardly think his faux pax deserves that kind of permanent punishment. I’m sure he’s being punished enough, just from the media alone. One must not forget it takes Two to Tango. Maria, also needs to shoulder half of the blame, for having an affair with a married man. They had known each other professionally, for 8 yrs. Who knows what happened between these two, to set their hearts afire.
EricG Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
I’d be willing to bet the woman from Argentina never presented herself before the public as a candidate of ‘morality’ and I know for a fact she never voted to impeach President Clinton for sexual acts.
So who is to blame? Well the mistress is to blame in terms of the family but in terms of the country and politics … it’s all Sanford and Republicans proving their critics right about their hypocrisy.
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 2:26 am
mistress is to blame for her own actions…and Sanford is to blame for his actions.
Kregg Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 1:04 am
The Eric said: …and I know for a fact she never voted to impeach President Clinton for sexual acts.
K: Neither did Sanford.
June 27th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Amen Alan!
June 27th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Oh the road to hell is often paved with good intentions…
EricG Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
So the road to heaven is paved in bad intentions?
Daddio Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
The road to Heaven is a straight narrow path. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions and very wide.
June 27th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Funny, we didn’t hear the “King David” stories when he wanted Clinton to resign. He could’ve shown some mercy to a fellow Christian then but opted not to. That’s what I love about hypocrites. When it’s someone else’s turn, shame on that person, but when it’s their turn, I’m like King David boo hoo. Go into your closet and pray to God who in private will hear you.
blissfulconservative Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
did you want clinton to resign? Do you want sanford to resign?
crh3e Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
No for clinton and no for sanford. Sanford should reimburse the state the money he used for his trip last year and start over from there. I believe in redemption.
Danielle Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
No sorry – I think Sanford needs to go. I would feel that way regardless of his party affiliation. The people of South Carolina deserve a lot better than someone with such a sense of a lack of responsibility to them. I don’t care why, where or who he disappeared with – that has very little to do with it.
Danielle Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
What Clinton did is different than Sanford. And I’m not even talking about the affair – the man is the governor of a state and he disappeared for days, telling NOBODY of his whereabouts. I care much less about the reason he disappeared (whether it had to do with a woman or not); completely unacceptable, incompetent behavior for a governor’s location to be unknown. Whether a Dem or Rep, someone like that should not be every again trusted with that level of responsibility.
Plus there is a part of me that thinks – if ANY politician is so dumb that they think people can’t monitor their e-mails, then they should be fired over sheer stupidity!
blissfulconservative Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Yep. Clinton lied under oath. In my opinion, someone who lies under oath shouldn’t be trusted.
crh3e Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
His disappearance is strange given we live in the post-9/11 U.S.
crh3e Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
We are talking about a guy who was playing politics with his state’s funding. That to me is lower than adultery.
EricG Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
BlissfulCon – “Yep. Clinton lied under oath. In my opinion, someone who lies under oath shouldn’t be trusted.”
President Bush took an oath of office to defend the Constitution, then proved he was lying about that part later on.
By this same logic we can’t trust Bush and should reject him as a non-credible figure in our society.
Clinton is old news. I don’t even care.
I just think it goes to show the level of personal responsiblity that conservatives place on their reps when they whine about Clinton 8-9 years after the fact and ignore their own liar and their own sick-o’s.
Weigh it all up for me and break it all down:
Why does getting something disgusting going on in the Oval Office have a greater weight to the nation than failing directly in your duties as Commander in Chief?
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The greatest shame in recent American politics is that we started impeachment proceedings against a president for sexual affairs and ignored the entire event as a president violated treaties, violated US Law, violated foreign sovereignty and last but not least directly failed to uphold his oaths of office.
I’m not kidding when I call Bush and Cheney treasonous murderers. They actually fit the bill.
As long as your an American and you love your country you would know this. Everyone else … all communists to me. Tired of showing respect to people who destroy this nation and continue to show themselves dedicated to destroying it some more.
Some people are anti-freedom. They must be isolated, demonized and thrown from the public sphere.
blissfulconservative Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Eric
perjury is perjury regardless of what you are questioned about. that is breaking the law.
And it is YOUR OPINION that Bush didn’t respect the constitution. YOUR OPINION.
karthiks030977 Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
I didnt expect Clinton to resign.
I dont expect Sanford to resign.
However, for the fact that Sanford expected Clinton to resign, I expect him to tattoo “HYPOCRITE” on his forehead. Saves us all the trouble of pointing out again and again, what a hypocrite he is being, by not resigning.
Danielle Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
You people are missing the point. It has very little to do about an affair (not that such things don’t matter – but let’s face a lot of politicians from both parties have affairs) – again it’s that he disappeared for days with nobody knowing his location!!! Forget about the affair already!!!
JaredfromTexas Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
It’s okay, and justifiable for the hypocrite label to come out with regard to their shared infidelity…
BUT
The call for Clinton to resign came after he was caught lying — to the country. Let’s get our facts straight, shall we?
blissfulconservative Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Yeppers
crh3e Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
But still my point was that Christian to Christian there should’ve been some mercy.
JaredfromTexas Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Going somewhere without telling anyone…and going somewhere and still being reachable are two different things.
Apparently his Chief of Staff was in contact with him throughout his “vacation”. What isn’t apparent, however, is whether the CoS knew where Sanford was.
JaredfromTexas Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
CRH3E,
Is your name in russian? What does it mean?
Danielle Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Yeah….lying about an affair…how odd for a politician to do. Not that I think that is ok.
But come on guys…..stop the non-sense; you mean to tell me that you’re so one-sided in your political affiliation that you can’t see how horrible of situation Sanford created by his disappearance?? I’m so sick of people just sticking to their party, no matter what….”guess we’ll just go along to get along” bullcrap. I’m a die-hard Democrat, but I will speak out when I feel something is wrong regardless of the party.
I would take you guys so much more seriously if you had the ability to do that. I swear, Sanford could have committed murder in the process of this whole thing….and somehow we’d still be talking about Clinton lying about his BJ.
crh3e Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
The name crh3e is my old userid from college. I should’ve thought of something else haha. CRH are my initials. The 3e part is what UVA gave me for my email userid. I had to pick something I could remember. Danielle, I’m sorry for bringing up the Clintion reference. Bear in mind that I was wondering where the King David comparisons were then as opposed to now.
JaredfromTexas Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
again…he may have “disappeared”…but he was still in contact with his office. That’s a bit different than the picture you’re trying to paint, DANIELLE.
Was it wrong? YES! Was it the end of the world? NO! Could it have exacerbated a freak political/state crisis? NO!
JaredfromTexas Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
CRH3E,
I just tried to do a russian-english translation…funny thing is that it didn’t work.
;)
Now I know why…
Danielle Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Jared,
I haven’t read or heard any confirmation that he was indeed in contact with his office and they knew were he was. I’ll admit I’ve been a bit under the weather and not as up on the news as I usually am, so maybe I missed that.
I hope I did – that would at least make me feel a heck of a lot better about the situation – as that was my biggest issue.
JaredfromTexas Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
DANIELLE,
When the reports of his absence first surfaced, Huffpost reported that he was in contact with his office.
I do NOT know if his office, his Chief of Staff specifically, knew exactly where he was, though.
JaredfromTexas Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
DANIELLE,
Hope you start to feel better, by the way!
Danielle Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Jared –
I’ll look it up – thanks.
EricG Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Jared – “The call for Clinton to resign came after he was caught lying — to the country. Let’s get our facts straight, shall we?”
The call for Bush to put on trial comes from after the fact when we learn about the illegal actions under his office and in the violations of US Law in the name of a ‘war on terror’ that apparently made all our laws mean nothing as soon as they started out on this jounney.
Not the way it works, sorry neo-cons.
You go to jail when you break the law.
At least that’s America when it’s proud and true to it’s values.
Much of the country is still living in BS … I guess your one of them. Too bad.
Wrong side of history … sound familiar?
blissfulconservative Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Eric
Many lawyers argue that the auto fiasco is unconstitutional.
Perjury is breaking the law.
And your OPINION that his actions were illegal are just that. YOUR OPINION>
EricG Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Blissful -
“And your OPINION that his actions were illegal are just that. YOUR OPINION”
I missed the part where I was establishing the facts of all history for all generations to come. Of course it’s my opinion. It’s your opinion that torture and following the insane and unamerican rule of Bush is anything but … well you get the point.
The legal opinions in the Torture Memos is the only reason that Bush and Cheney are not sitting in courtroom right now. And if you don’t understand this then I truly wonder how invested in this country who and all conservatives are.
“Perjury is breaking the law.”
Let’s weigh perjury and treason. Hmm. I’m weighing them. It’s looking pretty bad for you here…
Even if you don’t think anything was ilegal in the Bush years and everything was illegal in the Clinton years … there is a whole legal code you could educate yourself about.
Funny how people who understand the law have been against this ‘Gitmo’ carp from the beginning and people who chest-thump and war-monger seem to think that their OPINION is better suited than the laws we already have.
“Many lawyers argue that the auto fiasco is unconstitutional.”
It is. I’m not an idiot whatever you conservatives tell each other to make yourselves feel better when you make stupid points that don’t fly and I shoot them down.
It is completely unconstitutional. But we must compare what we are talking about.
Violating treaties, violating existing US Law, violating the 8th Amendment, and last but not least failing in the oath of office to ‘protect the economy.’
I have a very sound legal case to make for the execution of George W. Bush under charges of treason.
I really do.
So where’s your case for … perjury … against Clinton?
Let’s do them both, at the same time.
One guy gets a death sentence and the other gets … what is the penalty for perjury (I can’t remember right now…) … it ain’t death, I know that much.
—
I’m not for capital punishment so I wouldn’t want to pursue this case but it’s rather clear to people who have taken the time to educate themselves in some of this to see that one party had a naughty president and the other party had a criminal president.
JaredfromTexas Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
little ERIC,
The call for Bush to put on trial comes from after the fact when we learn about the illegal actions under his office and in the violations of US Law in the name of a ‘war on terror’ that apparently made all our laws mean nothing as soon as they started out on this jounney.
I noticed you didn’t include any one else in that paragraph…is there a reason why? Or do you not think any Dems had anything to do with this?
Much of the country is still living in BS … I guess your one of them. Too bad.
I don’t live in BS…BS is trying to pass off your opinion as the end-all, beat-all proof to an argument…WAIT A MINUTE! That’s what YOU do on a daily basis…
“Too bad”
June 27th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Why should “you libs” care about Sanford quoting the Bible?
Obviously people who have faith in those words are mentally deranged or “weak minded” as Jesse Ventura likes to say. Have all conservatives who believe any part of the Bible as literal locked up. Remove all traces of religion from the country. Because, obviously, it’s the sole source of our problems as a human race. Watch the Twilight Zone episode “The Obsolete Man” with Burgess Meredith.
EricG would have an orgasm of joy if all Bible thumpers were locked up!
Rocky the Liberal Rottweiler Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 1:49 am
By and large most people who need to quote from the “bible” obsessively are either mentally deranged or they’re religious zealots and no one with a functional brain gives a damn how many times the zealots claim the “bible” is literally true because no one with a functional brain is ever going to believe it.
EricG Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
“EricG would have an orgasm of joy if all Bible thumpers were locked up!”
The Lord Jesus Christ would not approve of locking people up for their beliefs and I take my lead from him.
As a flawed man. As a human.
I’d spit on their cages and taunt them with my freedom.
I’m being honest. Those people (at least the ones we hear on the show) are intolerant, unloving and hateful. Then they insult God by claiming they love Jesus and God.
They know who they are. They are bad folks.
pizzaman Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 2:33 am
You obviously never listen to any conservatives outside of the caricatures that Alan puts on his show. Colmes will allow ANYTHING to be said on the radio if it furthers his ratings and fosters hate for conservatives. Go back and listen to the show when he allowed the full “N” word on the air — thus offending any decent person who was listening — simply so he could falsely paint a certain racist redneck as a run-of-the-mill conservative. You remember that night? You employ the same irrational hate, EricG, which is why it’s so easy to call you out.
June 28th, 2009 at 12:42 am
orgasm of joy….is there any other kind?
flap Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 1:18 am
Eh, kinda redundant I guess. Excitement isn’t necessarily joyous, though. You can be hopped up and still not joyous.
Via m-w.com:
orgasm
intense or paroxysmal excitement; especially : an explosive discharge of neuromuscular tensions at the height of…
EricG Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Watch the orgasms explode as someone who has a (D) after their name is murdered by more extremist right wingers and the conservatives of America prove something I have long said to be true:
As far away as you can get from Christianity and God, there sits the conservatives.
June 28th, 2009 at 12:57 am
Notable, but apparently forgotten Democrats who did the no-no:
President John F. Kennedy (D)
President William Jefferson Clinton (D)
Senator John Edwards (D)
“Reverend” Jesse Jackson (D)
U.S. Representative Barney Frank (D)
Colorado Sen. Gary Hart (D)
New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer (D)
New Jersey Gov. James McGreevey (D)
Modesto Rep. Gary Condit (D)
Florida U.S. Rep. Tim Mahoney (D)
Henry G. Cisneros (D)
Rep. Mel Reynolds (D)
Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick (D)
San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom (D)
Mayor of Washington, D.C Marion Barry (D)
Gov. David A. Paterson (D)
Congressman Gerry Eastman Studds (D)
Former New York Rep. Fred Richmond (D)
Cincinnati City Councilman Jerry Springer (D)
Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa (D)
David Giles (D) Convicted in June 2000 of child rape.
Oregon Governor Neil Goldschmidt (D)
Kentucky Governor Paul Patton (D)
Ohio Rep. Wayne Hays (D)
Washington Sen. Brock Adams (D)
West Virginia Governor Bob Wise (D)
Utah U.S. Rep. Allan Turner Howe (D)
Louisiana U.S. Rep. Joseph Waggonner Jr. (D)
…seems that infidelity is bi-partisan…
Danielle Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Nobody said that infidelity was partisan. I’ve said all along that they’re just as many Dems as Reps pigs that have affairs. My beef with Sanford was the disappearance issue; which I still haven’t had time to look into sources that claim that his staff in fact knew where he was and were able to contact him.
And we’ve been around this issue several times, the issue I have is the hypocritical nature of these so called “conservative family values Republicans”. It’s one thing to be a pig; it’s another thing to be a hypocritical pig! But I know we disagree about that – which is fine:).
karthiks030977 Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Jared:
I didnt see any evidence to support that Sanford asked Clinton to resign in the context of the perjury charge.The timeline indicates he made that call(asking Clinton to resign) in the context of the trials.
There is not one piece of evidence that he asked him ON the Perjury Charge(and not on account of infidelity itself)….
so, while you evidently love people who quote the Bible,and I dare say,extend him the benefit of doubt and argue on his behalf that his call was in context of the Perjury charge…
I Dare say I do not extend him that benefit of doubt, and continue to call for the “HYPOCRITE” tattoo on him.
And I dont say this because of any Bible toters- hate or Conservative-Hate or any such thing: I am tired of Hypocrisy, and refuse to extend any benefit of doubt where hypocrisy is apparent.
JaredfromTexas Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
KARTHIK,
Can you find any evidence to support that Sanford asked Clinton to resign in the context of the infidelity charge?
Here ya go…from a stallwart of Left-wing reporting, the Huffpost:
This is “very damaging stuff,” Sanford declared at one point, when details of Clinton’s conduct became known. “I think it would be much better for the country and for him personally (to resign)… I come from the business side,” he said. “If you had a chairman or president in the business world facing these allegations, he’d be gone.”
Explaining his decision to back impeachment articles against Clinton, he added, “I think what he did in this matter was reprehensible… I feel very comfortable with my vote.”
Sanford’s complaints were directed primarily, although not entirely, at Clinton’s lying about the affair rather than the affair itself.
blissfulconservative Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
I think that’s called perjury.
JaredfromTexas Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
BLISS,
don’t forget the obstruction…
Daddio Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Great list Jared, but I could guarantee you that Alan would not find any one of them newsworthy enough to post on his site.
To many libs, infidelity is partisan.
OldLefty Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Nobody cared because these people never private or so called “family values”, a political issue.
I must repeat:
South Carolina Rep. Bob Inglis made a name for himself in the late 1990s as one of Bill Clinton’s most zealous pursuers, an impeachment “manager” who attacked the moral failings of the president with a gusto that earned him a devoted following in the staunchly conservative “Upstate” of conservative South Carolina.
But with his governor now felled by similar temptations, Inglis sees an opening for the Republican Party, a chance to “lose the stinking rot of self-righteousness”.
Or if I can quote Sinclair Lewis:
“He displayed the public piety of a traveling salesman of church furniture –“
blissfulconservative Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Nope. YOU don’t care because they are democrats.
JaredfromTexas Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
OLD LEFTY, DANIELLE, et al,
IF YOU ARE MARRIED…you have automatically subscribed to “family values”…yes?
The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans feel it an important enough issue to subscibe publicly to the idea of “family values” where Democrats don’t.
Does a public proclomation of your personal beliefs to the nation make you more of a hypocrite than a public proclomation to your closest family and friends who were at your wedding? In other words, is a republican more of a hypocrite than a democrat when infidelity occurs?
I think not.
OldLefty Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
JaredfromTexas,
I agree that everyone has “family values”. I don’t think anyone has more claim than others .
I conclude that the Republicans feel it an important enough vote getter to pander publicly to the idea of “family values” whether they really care or not, some probably do, but they have rendered it meaningless.
The temptation to tell the public what they want to hear is so great, that I just don’t want to hear it. The more they preach, the more phony they sound. So I would tell any politician that I can take care of my own values, I just need to know what are you going to do for the people of this town, state, country?
And when ANY politician passes judgment on others, when he is no better, I call them a hypocrite.
JaredfromTexas Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
OLD LEFTY,
Agreed…100%
Danielle Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Jared -
Yep, I’m married and I do believe in family values and try to live my life accordingly. I just feel the need to shout it from every roof top.
I think a person’s character speaks for itself – there should be no need to ram it down people’s throat. What’s that quote….”those that profess the loudest…..”.
Danielle Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Oops..I mean I don’t feel the need to shout it from every roof top.
Gay Rob Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 1:58 am
All you have to do is google “Repulican Adulterer and child rapists and you will see just as many are on the list that is shown above. Not to mention all of the hyprocritical preachers too numerous to name. It it bipartisan alright. Try doing a little research next time before you agree with anyone…
GuidoVanHorn Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 2:09 am
I think the point was to point out that both sides have their dirtbags…pointing that out…yet again is redundant.
steve Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Yes the list can go on and about the failures of alot of democrats,but repubs are the 1,s pounding out family values,morals,guns and GOD.
Pounding out agenda based on those issues and several members of the GOP have fallen from grace for being hypocrites like the ex-mayor and the sex driven governer.
June 28th, 2009 at 3:51 am
Old
Question: ANY politician? If so, then do you think obama is a hypocrite when he tells others they can’t fly on corporate jets, make a certain amount of money, throw lavish parties because our economy sucks then he turns around and does the same thing?
Danielle Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Oh God – oh never mind.
June 28th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Rocky, you lying sack. You say “If there is a god, . . . there isn’t a person on this . . . planet, who’s qualified to even suggest what god might possibly want.”
Hey, my liberal friends, Rocky DENIES that “if there is a god,” then GOD wants you to avoid race hate; that GOD wants to refrain from stealing your neighbor’s property; that GOD wants you to refrain from having sex with your neighbor’s wife; that GOD wants you care for the homeless; take care of the sick; treat the imprisoned humanely; refrain from torture; take care of our planet. Need I go on?
Rocky is a poseur, pretending lack of capacity “to even suggest what god might possibly want,” while insisting that you to do ALL the things I just listed. He insists, not because GOD wants it, but because . . . what? Because HE wants it?? Who the hell are YOU, Rocky? Who are YOU to tell me what’s right and what’s wrong. On what moral authority? You have none. But for the fact that there is a GOD who demands justice and love, YOU have NO authority to demand these things.
Once again, a lib is caught in the act of being himself, which usually excludes reasoning.
pizzaman
average james Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Pizza,
I am a Christian liberal who believes that we should refrain from stealing, race hate, etc. I like your list.
Of course Rocky has no authority to demand these things, duh.
I’m curious Pizza, are opposed to any of the things that you mentioned ?
Does truth cease to be truth if put forth by someone you disagree with ?
I consider your reasoning to be questionable, in this post.
June 29th, 2009 at 2:22 am
Sometimes I think some people believe God is up in the sky, looking down at us, all the while smoking a pipe and drinking a cup of coffee.
My IQ is higher than that. What about the dinosauers?
I just don’t think our brains are smart enough to know the real truth. Kinda like my cat can’t do algebra.
Just my opinion. And everybody’s got one, along with a body part.
average james Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 11:13 am
SGL,
I respect your opinion.
My cat cannot do algebra either, but my dogs………
Everybody knows that God doesn’t smoke, where have you been ?
craig7120 Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Oh SGL of lil faith in your animal friend. Your cat does math all the time. When a cat gets stuck in a tree he/she figured out that at that height combined with its weight jumping down would not be a good thing. So next time fluffy gets stuck just say wow what a smart cat. lol
June 29th, 2009 at 9:57 am
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