On Thursday’s Radio Show…

September 10th, 2009, 6:00 PM EDT

• Alan weighs in on the fallout from Rep. Joe Wilson’s outrageous outburst at President Obama.


• Are liberals like Alan “destroying America”? That’s the claim of the Catholic League’s Bill Donohue, whose latest book is Secular Sabotage. He’ll sit down with Alan to debate it.


Max Blumenthal, author of Republican Gomorrah, explains why he believes the Radical Right has shattered the GOP.

Responses to this post...

  1. “Republican Gomorrah” would have been better titled: “Republican Gonorrhea”.

    Or, if you have as much trouble spelling Gonorrhea as I do, we could just call it “Republican Clap”.

    Rocky the Liberal Rottweiler Reply:

    Republikan Crabs?

    anonymouse Reply:

    Republitard Cranks?

    pierre Reply:

    Republikk*an Fox.

    Daddio Reply:

    Sorta like DemocRATS.

    Daddio Reply:

    Or LIbErals.

  2. “Are liberals like Alan “destroying America”?”

    There are a lot of Americas. We all carry a different “American” around inside our own heads. By and large it’s the same “America” we each grew up in. And we all run into trouble when that “America” that’s so familiar starts losing touch with the America out there somewhere in the real world.

    And here’s the problem: that real America out there in the real world changes every day, because old people die, and new people come along to make the decisions that change everything.

    So liberals like Alan, and everyone else, might very well be destroying the “America” inside Bill Donohue’s head. But then Bill DOnohue’s “America” isn’t going to last forever, no matter how many books he writes.

    Change is coming. It’s coming every hour of every day. And no one on Earth can stop it.

    OldLefty Reply:

    We should all just sit back and obey THIS Bill Donohue guy, and let HIM destroy America!

  3. Sounds like it’s gonna be a great show! Max Blumenthal was just on NPR’s Fresh Air with Terri Gross

  4. I hope alan stirrs up bill d…

  5. Should be a great show tonight!!

  6. OKEE DOKEE Joel :)

  7. Joel,we will adapt and overcome!!

  8. Hey Suzanne

  9. GET fired up ALAN!!!

  10. Joel We are trying to get a chat going on Skype text chat!

  11. Love hearing Alan all fired up!

  12. hi BOB!! Ya book wilsons opponent alan asap!

  13. Anyone can join the regulars on skype chat.Just download skype and we can all chat.

  14. RIGHT ON ALAN! Sick to DEATH of the CONSERVATIVE INCIVILITY and the right-wing CRAP/talking points/UGLINESS… “he’s a LIAR/SOCIALIST/FASCIST/NAZI/FOREIGNER/ANTI-CHRIST” and all the rest of it. These rude right-wing fanatics want to make our ENTIRE country into a town hall meeting!!!
    For God’s sake… GROW UP AND LEARN SOME MANNERS!!

    Thank you Alan.

    John Galt Reply:

    “he’s a LIAR/SOCIALIST/FASCIST/NAZI/FOREIGNER/ANTI-CHRIST”

    I wouldn’t say he’s a foreigner or the anti-christ.

    EricG Reply:

    That’s a start, John.

    I always throw a fit over the word ’socialist’ but it’s because when a person uses a wild definition of a real term it degrades the value of all words and all definition.

    If Republicans and Anti-Obama groups can mislabel the president as a “socialist” then the Left needs to start using the same tactic by declaring everyone right-of-center a “fascist”.

    As long as we are murdering public debate let’s make sure to call somebody a Nazi, too.

    Got to touch all the bases…

    karthiks030977 Reply:

    “over the word ’socialist’ but it’s because when a person uses a wild definition of a real term it degrades the value of all words and all definition”

    That’s quite correct.
    Further, as I pointed out before, unless you charge individuals taxes on what individuals ask for, you are always practising socialism. The % of tax going into a war has different ROI for a wall street firm, for a defense contractor, and for a countryside chicken farmer.

    Conservatives almost always make war a question of patriotism(with the Exception of some, like John,Guido). Why cant they admit they’re socialists, when it comes to war?

    EricG Reply:

    “Why cant they admit they’re socialists, when it comes to war?”

    Yes, that is the big question.

    Why is that when we use the same money to buy bombs and invade nations these people refuse to see anything but patriotism but when we just propose using money to actually help American families and American individuals the support turns to a foaming, violent rejection?

    And I always say the same thing to this anti-government nonsense:

    Just stop using the socialized roads and the socialized electric grid. Go live in the woods and eat tree bark and snails … the govt will never find you … The rest of us have to have lead real lives.

  15. Dude, he was just on hannity, Joel, go get him and drag him into the studio man!!!

    Joel Reply:

    Yeah I know, but he was via remote in DC and we’re up in NY. If he was here we would’ve run downstairs, believe me!

    EricG Reply:

    You could have run into Hannity’s studio and tickled him like a magic leprechan who stole the truth away from the public…

    Yes, I recommend this be the new greeting for Sean on all occasions.

    *tickle tickle*

  16. Hey folks. Old school chat time!

  17. Alan take it easy on Joel.They say Joels tears cure cancer.He never cries though..LOL

    EricG Reply:

    “They say Joels tears cure cancer”

    No, they cause cancer!

    EricG Reply:

    (j/k)

  18. Hey Pooh

  19. Bob and I are doing a chat on Skype text chat! Join us!

  20. Bigfoot now on the skype chat

  21. ROFL@BOB :) OK Joel. ty

  22. Joel is the Chuck Norris of talk radio.

  23. I agree with you Alan.Let the blue dogs go!!!

  24. He is Pooh.Joel is so tuff he can eat the boogers out of dead mans noses!!(Full Metal Jacket)

  25. POOH Join us on Skype chat!

  26. MR. RUSSERT: When the president talked about Yucca Mountain and moving the nation’s nuclear waste there, you were very, very, very strong in your words. You said, “President Bush is a liar. He betrayed Nevada and he betrayed the country.”

    Is that rhetoric appropriate?

    SEN. REID: I don’t know if that rhetoric is appropriate. That’s how I feel, and that’s how I felt. I think to take that issue, Tim, to take the most poisonous substance known to man, plutonium, and haul 70,000 tons of it across the highways and railways of this country, past schools and churches and people’s businesses is wrong. It’s something that is being forced upon this country by the utilities, and it’s wrong. And we have to stop it. And people may not like what I said, but I said it, and I don’t back off one bit.

    karthiks030977 Reply:

    Did Reid make these comments interrupting Bush’s speech to a forum including Reid on the above topic?

    If he did, they’re the same exact thing.

    If he was voicing his opinions on another forum, without interrupting Bush when he talked about the above, then the 2 are quite different.
    We’re talking decorum here, and its possible Reid wasnt following decorum the same way as this guy;
    I dont know the facts of the case. Knowing your history John, I believe its likely to be the first case. Please clarify,nevertheless.

    John Galt Reply:

    Did Reid make these comments interrupting Bush’s speech to a forum including Reid on the above topic?

    If he did, they’re the same exact thing.

    Point taken.

    I just keep hearing that it is not okay to call the President a liar. So far I have not heard the qualifier that it IS okay to say it outside of a speech. So I am interested.

    Is it okay to call the President a liar or not? Or does it depend on the whens and the wheres?

    karthiks030977 Reply:

    “Is it okay to call the President a liar or not”

    It is quite okay to call the President a liar.
    However, it is dumb, and damages your credibility, IF you do it without sufficient evidence(like that sample bias assertion of Jared), you damage your own credibility.

    Did Reid have enough evidence here to make that assertion?I have no idea. THe topic is news to me, as I said. I would disagree with his assertion until he presents evidence for it.

    karthiks030977 Reply:

    “Is it okay to call the President a liar or not? Or does it depend on the whens and the wheres?”

    Well, if you’re asking me, I am not much of a stickler for decorum, personally speaking(even though I understand the topic here is decorum).

    But I believe in a honest debate, and in this context, the liar assertion seemed to be damaging the honesty of the debate.
    To a small extent, the decorum matters here, because it can(and does) come across that there’s an attempt to stifle an honest debate, by interrupting the other person when he’s making his case. But not the “He’s the President” decorum, I dont buy that(that’s just me).

    John Galt Reply:

    It is quite okay to call the President a liar.

    I agree.

    it is dumb, and damages your credibility, IF you do it without sufficient evidence… you damage your own credibility.

    Sure, I agree with that too.

    I think it comes down to “It’s just politics”. Each side is going to rage against the other when they are “slighted”. That’s cool.

    But in the end, much of what Obama said last night was a … was a …. was ahhhh … not based on fact ;-)

    karthiks030977 Reply:

    “But in the end, much of what Obama said last night was a … was a …. was ahhhh … not based on fact”
    Well, I didnt watch the speech myself,had more interesting stuff going;
    I’ll watch it over the weekend;I know he hasnt yet laid down many convincing specifics on his plan. The part that I’m most interested to know is what it will cost me(as a taxpayer).This paid for stuff he put out earlier, I dont quite trust the accounting there, so i’ll see if he did any better here.

    John Galt Reply:

    I dont know the facts of the case. Knowing your history John, I believe its likely to be the first case. Please clarify,nevertheless.

    I don’t think he interrupted a speech.

    Sorry, I missed that portion of your note until just now.

  27. Why do wingnuts like Wison wear brown shoes?
    To cover up the fact that they keep tripping in their own poop!
    Evening all!

  28. I love it Alan….GO GET EM!!!

  29. Alan, Don’t apologize, you are right on the money!!!

    Damn straight.

  30. oops..Wilson

  31. Hey Mary! join us on Skype for a text chat!

  32. yay the gals are all fired up tonight!

  33. Folks are salty tonight!

  34. Hahaha Hi ya (((((Mary)))))!! :D

  35. Hey Epiphnay

  36. and (((((Suzanne))))) too :)

  37. EPIPHANY join us on the Skype chat.

  38. Epiphnay we are all on skyoe also tonight

  39. In other words the MAJORITY of Americans are NOT conservative, lol.

  40. I cant spell sorry

  41. and I can’t type for crap!

  42. OK I downloaded this Skype thing…what do I do now?

  43. There was some kind of an Abe Lincoln quote. I don’t remember the context or even what it was in, except it was in a speech he gave at some point.

    In short, Lincoln told the story of a highwayman stopping someone along a lonely road late one night and demanding his wallet. The robber then says, “don’t refuse to turn your wallet over and make me kill you – then, your death will be your own fault”.

    Or, something like that.

    Donohue is another religious lunatic. His argument only reinforces how the rest of us should push back harder as he tries to advance his own screwy cause under the false flag of “you people are all picking on Catholics and we have to defend ourselves by destroying everyone else first”.

    More Catholic buggery. Physician, heal thyself.

    EricG Reply:

    Well put.

    This man uses the reality of bigotry, which knows no bounds to any one group or belief, to try and excuse his own bitter attitudes.

    And he is completely wrong about The ACLU.

  44. Pooh,Suzanne you all should download sype.Its great

  45. What is your screen name on skype pooh??we will contact you

  46. Pooh my name on skype is Bob the union man.add me to your contacts

  47. Pooh, have you set up an account on skype? If so what is your skype name? Mine is epiphanydh.

  48. The catholic church is worried about certian issues as the rest of their flock are torn down by conservative economics..

  49. Search for Bob the union man on Skype. Then send an invite to Bob as friend. He’ll the accept you!

  50. Alan, Please don’t hurt Joel for booking this guest!!!! We survived.

  51. My Skype screen name is tim_in_nh

  52. Donohue’s wild-eyed radio personality isn’t doing his “we’re normal and all you other secular people are crazy” thesis any good.

    Had a few cups of coffee late in the day, maybe? Next time, try the decaff.

    I think Donohue just blamed the Catholic buggery scandals on the victims as much as the priests (gay people everywhere!!!) and Colmes let him get away with it.

  53. my poor netbook cant handle alans show and skype so Im stuck here folks

  54. Suzzane ..pooh has arrived on skype..Come join us!!

  55. anonymouse do you have skype??

    anonymouse Reply:

    I hope not. It sounds painful.

    I have hayfever. Close enough?

    jazmine Reply:

    It does sound sort of catchy, like CRABS….
    No offense intended.

    heehee!!!

  56. Ok Suzzane..we will be on both

  57. I will keep you company Suzanne :) Eating dinner right now at the same time.

  58. Aww thanks Epip.. WHatcha eatin?

    My twitter crashed durn it..(or I got reported lol)

  59. It’s a mish mosh of chopped meat, green pepper, onion, cabbage, carrots cut up with some herbs, paprika, and sauteed in a little oil. It’s not bad, lol.

  60. mm yumm

  61. How are you doing tonight Joel??I know you miss the stream!!

    Joel Reply:

    I’m getting the shakes.

    Bob the union man Reply:

    Joel you can get help for you chat stream addiction..I saw it on A&E..lol

  62. We use to communicate this way on this kind of thread before there was a chat stream.

    Joel Reply:

    Yes, we can just call this “Retro Week” on Alan.com.

    directorpooh Reply:

    I’m calling it ACOS…Alan Colmes Old School

    EricG Reply:

    Woot woot!

    It’s Retro Week!

    *clamoring to find disco boots*

  63. Eric Fromm fan here! “To Have Or To BE” is my favorite!

  64. Tell Mike B since the stream is down we can now play rage against the machine bumper music!!!

  65. Joel, “Retro Week”..like that!

  66. Tim from NH is on his way back home.He just text me on my cell..He has beer but is going by Wendys.

  67. Retro week!!!!Play some doors then…riders on the storm!!

  68. Oh wow, Erich Fromm… I used to read him when I was a teenager, I still have some of his books somewhere…

  69. Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity Is the most dangerous men in America, Alan

  70. Hey Vegas my union brother

    vegasman Reply:

    Hi Bob the union man

  71. As the religious crazies come more and more to the obvious conclusion their influence has waned, they’ll get more militant and loud.

    If you thought their voices would fade with the departure of BushCo and his faith-based administration, you’re mistaken. Their current weakened political positioning is only going to push them harder to get more crazy. You’re seeing the beginnings of that craziness at the townhall meetings with the violence, shouting and firearms.

    Strangely, I’m getting hungry.

  72. Oh these calls are about to be fun for Max!

  73. humm.. cant get the broadcast, twitter or fb..I smell a republican conspiracy..

    EricG Reply:

    They smell kind of like rotten potatoes but more like **** than anything else…

  74. dont let the republican right wing corporate master mess with your broadcast suzanne lol

  75. The revolution will be televised…

  76. I just dont know if time outs work every time ..

  77. somebody call the cops!!

  78. Abortion again…but the religous leaders dont have a problem bowing down to their corporate masters paying their flock slave wages

  79. Alan is very much on point. Think he’s about had it with the stupidity.

  80. conservatives support free trade with china which performs more abortions millions of abortions..thats ok though as long as it makes big buisness money..

    EricG Reply:

    Critical point, Bob.

    One of many that I never from so-called “pro-lifers” that makes me question if they really believe it or if they just need an enemy so bad they have to be against someone!

  81. Yes is it “See-Geen” Texas Alan

  82. Hell I am fired up now ALAN!!

  83. Breathe buddy…breathe…

  84. Time for Bed Good all

  85. You all should see ALAN on the video stream..He is fired up.(buy premium podcast-plug)

  86. c ya vegas

  87. Good bumper music Mike

  88. Hell after tonight I feel like running! Nice tunes Mike!!

  89. Wouldnt it be great if we captured or killed Bin Laden today….we could take our day back!!!

  90. My bumper music request would be for sept 11///metallica seek and destroy…going after bin laden

  91. ALAN GREAT SHOW TONIGHT,,,THIS IS TIME WE ON THE LEFT NEED TO STAND UP FOR OUR PRESIDENT

  92. Joel I am going retro on grafitti tonight since it is retro night

  93. ALAN WE ARE ALL CHATTING ON SKYPE TEXT!!!

  94. FULL HOUSE ON SKYPE CHAT TONIGHT

  95. ITS HAPPY HOUR ON SKYPE CHAT ALAN

  96. ALAN HOW ABOUT A SHOUT OUT TO THE REGULARS ON THE BLOG SIDE TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  97. Bob has got me drinking Natuaral Light. Natty! Ughhh!

  98. SOME PEOPLE WEAR SUPERMAN PAJAMAS.SUPERMAN WEARS ALAN COLMES PAJAMAS…

    EricG Reply:

    That’s a good quote!

  99. IT WILL GROW ON YA TIM ..LOL..IT THE BEER I GREW UP ON..TIMES ARE TUFF..GOT TO CUT COSTS AND ITS BETTER THEN THE BEAST

  100. Joel explain to ALAN that the beast is Milwaukee best beer

  101. WHOA I CALLED ALAN!!

    libpatriot Reply:

    Heard ya, Tim. Good job!

  102. Tryin to get on graffiti.. busy.. :(

  103. GREAT JOB TIM..I WENT RETRO TONIGHT JOEL…JIMMY HOFFA AND THE TEAMSTERS FOREVER

  104. Tim you sounded like a cool cat talking to Alan…

  105. ALAN KICK ASS SHOW TONIGHT!!!MIKE B..THE BUMPER MUSIC WAS BETTER…JOEL AS ALWAYS YOU ARE THE POTENTATE AND AIMEE ALWAYS GETS ME ON GRAFITTI SO SHE IS THE BEST..BEER AND WINGS ON ALAN TONIGHT,HE MAKES MORE MONEY THAT SEAN HANITTY…

  106. The crazy catholic dude Donohoe did not make his case. He sounded really ranty and didn’t even venture into the right wing religous nut factor ie Hannity and various pastors praying for Obama’s death. Also, people on the left are not all secular. That’s sometimes forgotten in conversations. Basically you could tell the dude is accustomed to a hannity type audience that laps up religious craziness uncritically. That don’t work at Alan Colmes joint.

  107. GREAT SHOW TONIGHT ALAN!!!

  108. I love it that Alan is getting much more in the wing-nuts faces when they call. I’m screaming with him…they are rude, wrong , arrogant and pompous to think that they have any thing relevant…they are just echo chambers of their propaganda spewing ‘heroes’.

  109. I agree BUDDA!!

  110. I agree with ya BUDDA

    jazmine Reply:

    Make it three agrees, and I’m outta here:)

  111. Donohue is even more crazy the second time around.

    He’s whining about Nazi-like attacks on the Catholic Church while not mentioning that Hitler was a Catholic.

    I suppose we should be glad Donohue didn’t try to claim Hitler was a liberal, athiest, secular Democrat and a card carrying member of the ACLU instead.

    jazmine Reply:

    How does one get to hear that talk show thinger, where is it???….do I have time???

    jazmine Reply:

    It’s not that radio thinger on the side??? is it???

    jazmine Reply:

    Never mind…I appear to not have time, anymore:(

  112. Good Night, all.

  113. Bill Donohue engaged in personal defamation against liberals and secularists then whines in the same interview about defamation against The Catholic Church.

    If he was so concerned about such matters he wouldn’t spread such false and sweeping generalizations.

    I would like to say I am personally offended by his words and I take it as a personal affront that disreputable slanderers such as he feel free to lie about liberals for the sake of their own immoral greed.

    ===

    Max Blumenthal raises many valid issues but I feel I should point out that I feel he used some of the same generalizations found in Bill Donohue’s interview but in regards to the right wing.

    I agree with Max Blumenthal about the destruction of the Republican Party and the issues of Psychological Perspectives on Child-rearing, but I could promise anyone that if I ever buy his book I could point out a piece of bias somewhere in there.

    Just like almost every political book ever written.

  114. ACORN Stung. Caught trying to help set up a prostitution ring using 13 year olds from South America. And advising on how to cheat on their taxes and how to make the prostitution business look legal and legit.

    Check it out on Biggovernment.com.

    OldLefty Reply:

    ACORN Stung,
    ……….

    This is old, Daddio,

    From yesterday:

    Why is any crime by any one who works for ACORN supposed to be different than malfeasance, say in the DOJ or congress members, or convicted felons who get top serve again or get their own shows.
    Because ANY crime committed by ANYBODY who works for community organizers is bad, unlike crimes committed by IranContra felons, Santorum and the K Street Project,Blackwater, KBR etc.

    And from Um Cara,

    Come on, OldLefty – you know there is a difference between poor people and rich people commiting crimes.
    Generally (with a few notable exceptions – notable, because they are rare) poor people do jail time for crimes, and wealthy people get off, or do probation.
    So clearly it is worse when poor people commit criminal acts, or there would be equality in punishment – because as we all know, justice is blind.