The GOP Corporate Push Behind The 9/12 Teabaggers
Stay Classy, Teabaggers!
Dick Army’s group FreedomWorks, which organized last spring’s tea parties, is behind Saturday’s events as well. They claim to model themselves on MoveOn.org, except that MoveOn.org actually is a grassroots group, and not funded by corporate lobbyists like FreedomWorks is. The official website for the event, 912dc.org, is owned by FreedomWorks.
–Armey’s FreedomWorks is actively organizing against health care reform. Indeed, Armey’s lobbying firm represents pharmaceutical companies, such as Bristol-Myers Squibb, that oppose comparative effectiveness research in the health reform plan because such a program may cut into revenue for branded drugs.
– Armey’s lobbying firm represents the trade group for the life insurance industry. Indeed, FreedomWorks mobilizes its members for deregulated life insurance reform.
– Currently, FreedomWorks is focusing their energy activism on supporting the status quo reliance on fossil fuels. In addition to working for various domestic oil companies with a vested interest in opposing change, Armey’s lobbying firm represents Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Prime Minister of the UAE, on energy related issues such as maintaining the U.S.-UAE relationship where “U.S companies have played major roles in the development of UAE energy resources, which represent about 10 percent of global oil reserves.”
Saturday’s sponsors have deep ties to GOP lobbyists and interest groups.
– Gold Sponsor Tea Party Patriots is a website run by FreedomWorks staffers. When Tea Party Patriots list serv members objected to the 9/12 march symbol, they were rebuffed and told that all final decisions were made by FreedomWorks.
– Gold Sponsor Our Country Deserves Better is a Republican PAC that also operates the Tea Party Express, a bus tour arriving in DC for the 9/12 march. Our Country Deserves Better/Tea Party Express, which has ran an advertisement comparing Obama to Hitler, is managed by the GOP consulting firm Russo, Marsh & Rogers.
– Bronze Sponsors The Heartland Institute and the Competitive Enterprise Institute are phony think-tanks dedicated to churning out academic-appearing reports to discredit global warming. Like FreedomWorks, both organizations are funded by David and Charles Koch of the Koch Industries oil empire, one of the largest privately held companies in the world.
– Bronze Sponsor American Conservative Union is run by David Keene, a lobbyist for a firm that represents private health care companies, including the insurer HealthFirst.
– Bronze Sponsor The Senate Conservatives Fund is a Republican Party PAC run by Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC).
Well these are classy people.
From the St. Petersburg Times Online:
Are you really Dick Armey?” Barry asked.
Armey replied, “Yes, I am Dick Armey. And if there is a dick army, Barney Frank would want to join up.”
http://sptimes.com/News/080400/Worldandnation/Ford_makes_speedy_rec.shtml
flap Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
“And if there is a dick army, Barney Frank would want to join up.”
That’s pretty funny…have you no sense of humor? Oh, wait, I remember, it’s only when making fun of whites, Christians, Republicans, conservatives, gunholders, pro-lifers, Dick Cheney, GWB, or Sarah Palin. Then it’s fair game.
But a dick joke about homosexuals…oh my GOD that’s out of bounds! So eeeeeeeeevil!
Um Cara Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
I thought it was moderately funny, though a bit obvious (and I can’t stand Dick Army)
Rocky the Liberal Rottweiler Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Yeah it’s a real “christian” joke too, which is why I find it droll, especially since Mr. Armey comes from a party of dicks, and is forming up a mob of dicks on his own.
And, obviously, Armey didn’t intend to be funny. He intended to insult a leading Democratic Senator.
And, you know, we’re all real sorry that all you radical rightwing republikkkan extremists just can’t get past your rabid homophobic hate, but in the end it’s your problem and you’re going to have to answer to Jesus for it.
libpatriot Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Rocky, I agree with most of your post here, except that I’d substitute “Representative” for “Senator”, and “God” for “Jesus”.
The first substitution involves a matter of fact, the second substitution involves only my personal preference.
September 12th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
“Stay Classy, Teabaggers!”
During his speech, Obama was not using Kennedy’s death as a political tool for healthcare? Is it really that much different?
Um Cara Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Yes. Reading a letter Kennedy asked to be released after his death and making this sign are quite different w/ regards to the level of class involved.
I suspect you realize that.
I would go as far as to say you might be willing to publicly read from a letter a friend or colleague asked you to, upon his passing – but would not put up a sign as tacky as this one.
Or perhaps I have misread your character? Do you not see a difference in the two acts?
flap Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
“Or perhaps I have misread your character?”
Character? Wait a second, I was under the impression that you diagnosed me as a sociopath. I must have no character. I don’t understand the difference between right and wrong! Where’s your faux concern for me?!
“the level of class involved”
It’s using his death politically. Obama reading a letter and using it to promote his healthcare agenda…that’s political.
I agree with you that it’s not appropriate to write “bury Obamacare with Kennedy,” but it’s also inappropriate to be using Kennedy’s death to PUSH through a political agenda. Letter or no letter. I suppose if you agree with his agenda maybe you don’t see it as inappropriate at all.
Um Cara Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
I suppose if you agree with his agenda maybe you don’t see it as inappropriate at all.
It has nothing to do with his agenda, if a person dies and writes a letter asking that it be released after his death, I do not see fulfilling that person’s wishes in doing so as equivalent to something as tacky as creating this sign.
Character? Wait a second, I was under the impression that you diagnosed me as a sociopath. I must have no character. I don’t understand the difference between right and wrong! Where’s your faux concern for me?!
I come across as someone who would be unconcerned about another person because that person is a sociopath?
I am concerned for sociopaths, I believe that UHC should absolutely include treatment for the mentally ill. The US is shameful w/ regards to its treatment of the mentally ill (primary treatment options being the street and prison).
EricG Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
That’s disgusting to say that, Flap.
Truly a foul and low statement to make.
Obama spoke with clearly and honestly about Ted Kennedy’s desire for Universal Health Care and that’s not even what we are discussing here.
I think statements like yours go to show you are not willing to face the disgusting and unpatriotic nature that your party has tackled this health care debate. It’s immoral and wrong, the sign that Freedomworks made and your insinuation that Obama is using the death of a great American to push a bill.
Disgusting.
flap Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
“disgusting and unpatriotic nature that your party has tackled this health care debate”
I know, everything that a non-liberal does is disgusting.
It’s not the Republican party that’s trying to RAM through legislation that a lot of the country has qualms about. Even IF I accept your proposition that this healthcare plan is the greatest thing since sliced bread, a lot of the country doesn’t necessarily want it. Despite all the squawking that it’s Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck/Levin/FNC/the right-wing’s fault, it’s actually the other way around as far as cause and effect goes. They, in many ways, echo the concerns that many of us have.
Despite what you have been fed from the left, EricG, we have a RIGHT to vehemently disagree with legislation and an agenda that will radically alter the healthcare system and economy. It is PATRIOTIC to dissent. You miss the whole point if you focus in on a few wackos, just like the right missed the whole point of being anti-war if we focused in on Code Pink and other extreme organizations being against the Iraq War. Just because there are wackos does not mean that there are not very important points to be debated or argued.
karthiks030977 Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
“I know, everything that a non-liberal does is disgusting.”
You’ll like to believe its because a non-liberal does it. Fact is, its because of this “I oppose Obama’s “Ahem” policy” approach.Its about what you do,not who does it.
September 12th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
If you want to quash the “Parties”, there’s an easy way to do it. Point out to them that most of their leaders support something that will raise their taxes and give more power to the Democrats:
http://24ahead.com/912-tea-party-march-washington-dc-glenn-beck-freedomworks
EricG Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Here’s a news flash:
You’re running talking points around that are exclusively Republican in nature and then in the same breath mocking the “parties” as if you don’t have a stake with the right wing.
Your transparent in your bias.
September 12th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Dick Armey is an idiot and so are you.
September 12th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Hey Alan,
You forgot one sponsor: FOX NEWS
September 12th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
On a similar topic, Dick Armey of Freedomworks misrepresented the accurate numbers of the numbers of uninsured Americans on a episode of The Newshour (PBS).
It seems to me that these groups are allowed to change the facts around as they see fit but if leftist groups change the figures to better their argument every news agency who catches it rips them a new one.
libpatriot Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
That’s why I don’t buy this charge that it’s a “liberal media”, EricG. The News Hour With Jim Lehrer is a program that seems to bend over backwards to strike a balance between left and right, but that sometimes means they let righties get away with some claims unchallenged in order to continue being perceived as neutral.
September 12th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Finally figured out how to do this via Facebook Connect! Yay, me.
One point I’d like to clarify — Dick Armey has left DLA Piper — whether he was forced out or resigned, I don’t know, but after Rachel Maddow detailed his relationship to the teaparty movement, he was done there.
September 12th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Making a Profit by Denying Health Care is Pure Evil!!! Purchasing and paying into a Health Care System that makes a “400%” Profit by Denying Health Care is National Stupidity and Insanity. HELP HEAL HEALTH CARE by voting out, of office, any Politician who Protects, For Profit, Health Insurance and the theft and scamming of my fellow Americans!
inaisle8 Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
If just the private insurance regulations pass, they’ll go under anyway even without a public option.
Requiring health insurance companies to cover a person with a pre-existing medical condition would put most of them out of business.
It would be like buying used cars you don’t want with pre-existing mechanical problems that would need major investment monies to keep them running with most of them costing way more than what they sold for.
Because of the increased claim payoffs that would certainly be incurred, it would not be cost affective for a health insurance company to cover someone who needs health coverage that already has a pre-existing illness.
If you take in 600 dollars a month but have pay out 1500 dollars a month, that is not a good business model. Most companies would go broke in that situation.
A health insurance organization would need to pass along the increased costs to its current customers to cover the mandatory payouts on the (we know this is going to cost us a bundle) sick guy.
Most insured folks don’t like what they are paying now. I believe most would probably drop or be forced to drop their coverage due to increased personal rates or increased employee company coverage rates, eventually leaving the health companies with no one to insure.
Thus ending the days of private health care insurance.
Even without a pubic health option, if the forced acceptance coverage (not too many dems or reps seem opposed to this one) on a pre-existing illness is approved, Americans can say bye bye to private health organizations that already control what doctors you see and medical procedures approved (read your contract). These private health insurance companies will not be able to resolve their added payout costs without a substantial customer rate increase.
If forced by the government to accept and keep clients they normally should and would reject, this alone will most likely over time, exceed their factored loss cap from increased claims leading to company failure.
Private insurance companies love you…. as long as you don’t submit a claim.
Well at least the older folks will still have their public run socialized government health care program, Medicare.
Debby Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
My cousin has worked for an Insurance Company for 35 yrs. He said in 1975 it cost a single person $18.00 a mo. and a family of four $28.00 a mo. From what I understand, the Congressional Budget Commitee projects it will cost a family of four $25,000 a yr. for coverage by 2018 (only 8 more yrs.) How many employers are going to continue to afford that coverage. We are already seeing much Industry move overseas to eliminate that cost. Without Employer Health aid, just how many Americans will continue paying for Insurance, they cannot afford? “190 people a day are losing coverage, just in Minnesota alone.” If this continues, the next Industry to crumble will be the Health Care Industry. They will not be able to supportand treat all these Americans unable to pay for care. Now if I had a Business and had to fork out the high costs for Medical Insurance, you can bet I’d consider moving overseas(where Health Insurance costs are not a Issue) just to survive! Not a good outlook, even if we stay the course! Now, I think we could all admit, we saw the failure of Free Market Capitalism by the end of 2008. I thought our National Athem would become..”Who stold the Cookies from the Cookie Jar?” WE have many problem to work out in this country and we have to stay on the same team to be able to compete in the Global Economy or we are doomed. Spending millions a day to fight reform and threatening your fellow Americans with Civil War leaves much room for suspicion and does not help solve the Problems , we face!
Debby Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Please excuse the spelling! My spell checker is gone since the geeks installed my new security software and I need new glasses. That will have to wait another month, because while traveling, I received a strange bug bite. It became infected so I had visit the Emergency room in a small town. It cost $900.00 to clean, test for lymes and prescribe antibio. I pay cash! We are one of the small business self employed and uninsured. I heard from some people, they will lower the cost if you are uninsured but that has never happened to us. I guess they know we will always pay up! So for now, I will continue to p-lace my nose on the computer screen to see what I have typed. I miss a lot with that method!
libpatriot Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Debby, well stated!
karthiks030977 Reply:
September 13th, 2009 at 10:03 am
“If you take in 600 dollars a month but have pay out 1500 dollars a month, that is not a good business model. Most companies would go broke in that situation.
”
EVery Insurance company in the healthcare insurance business follows this operating procedure: All’s well till you turn in a claim; If the claim exceeds the amount you paid us, we will deny your claim if possible.
If you have to violate spirit of the contract in the above manner to avoid paying out 1500$ a month, perhaps the business model is unviable, and the model is meant to die. A business model working on the above procedure to make a profit is no different from Madoff: its a Ponzi scheme, and gets no sympathy from me for its survival.
September 12th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
This is one of first Liberaland postings with teeth.
September 12th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Bronze Sponsor American Conservative Union is run by David Keene, a lobbyist for a firm that represents private health care companies, including the insurer HealthFirst.Bronze Sponsor The Senate Conservatives Fund is a Republican Party PAC run-by sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC).
look at this chart and compair:
Time Warner AIG, Health Cap, Paratek Pharmaceuticals
Fox/News Corp GlaxoSmithKline, Genentech, Hybritech
New York Times Co. First Health Group, Eli Lilly
Tribune Co. Abbott Labs, Middelbrook Pharmaceuticals
libpatriot Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Astroturf organizations on parade, eh Dennis?
(BTW, good to see that you’re having no trouble keeping your posts on, now!)
September 12th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
This is a Letter to the editor in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette
Thursday, 9/10/09:
A system to envy
There is a lot of misinformation about so-called socialized health care. As for the German system, it covers everybody from birth to grave; it even includes dental care. Having this kind of coverage means financial peace of mind when seeking medical care.
The system was founded in 1864 by Otto von Bismark, a staunch conservative who outlawed the social democratic party, hardly a commie. I am not aware of any death counseling; in fact the Germans get, on average, older than the U.S. citizen. The cost per capita is about half the health-care costs in the United States. I am convinced that U.S. citizens would be ecstatic to have a similar system.
But the angry town hall discussions are not about health care; they are about getting back at President Obama without appearing racist. The movement was instigated by the bloated radio talk show hosts from the Fox News channels. These channels would not exist in Germany, their never-ending rant against everything left of Dick Cheney is just too close to the past Nazi propaganda.
As to the angry cry against government interference, a visit to Somalia for a few months should give a taste of what it feels like to live in a country where nobody pays taxes, the government has nothing to say and everyone can carry as many concealed guns as he can hide in his pants.
jazmine Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Well said Lefty and very correct in your facts. Facts I know about. Stifling Propaganda, not so much, because I can’t seem to wrap my brain around it. Thanks!!
Cheers,
JM
Daddio Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 8:40 am
Who sent that letter Lefty?
I hope you don’t believe those who were at the town hall meetings and those who marched on Washington this past Saturday are racist.
I said before the election last November that if Obama won it wouldn’t be long before those on the left would be calling anyone who opposes the Obama agenda racists. And so it has come to past. I have been called a racist on this site for opposing Obama’s agenda. The mainstream media have called those opposing Obama’s agenda racists. That is absolutly absurd.
That letter writer makes an absurd remark to those as being racist. Those people, and me, are sick and tired of our leaders doing whatever the h*** they want and thinking they never have to answer to the people. We are fed up with the Washington elites. We are fed up with the Washington spending us into oblivion. We are fed up with Democrats and Republicans. We want straight answers. Not this two step they give every interviewer in the world where they never answer the question put to them. They have been allowed to get away with this for way to long and it is time to just say STOP!!!!!
There is not ONE politician in Washington that deserves to be re-elected. NOT ONE!!!!
That is why these decent, patriotic American citizens are so angry. That is why they are holding these peaceful tea parties.
karthiks030977 Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 8:45 am
“That is why these decent, patriotic American citizens are so angry. That is why they are holding these peaceful tea parties.”
That is 1 of many explanations.
Another explanation which seems plausible (to me) is they’re upset that a (Half)Black man is in the White House as President(am sure he isnt the first (Half/)Black man in the White House).
The urgency with which these people believe the half-a$$ conjectures as “fact” (often using circular logic, conjecture A proves Fact B, conjecture B proves Fact C, and conjecture C proves Fact A) seems unusual; Of course, its possible again that these people are just sore losers. Sore losers sustaining energy this long sounds less plausible. Racism being the motivator sounds more plausible.
Daddio Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 8:54 am
The only response to your comments Karthiks is it doesn’t deserve the time of day.
Good day.
OldLefty Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Daddio asks,
“Who sent that letter Lefty?”
Just a citizen who used to lives in Squirrel Hill, a predominately Jewish area of Pittsburgh.
I think they called, Eisenhower, FDR, Truman KFK, and LBJ, Communists.
I think there were many who hated JFK because he was Catholic, and many who hate Obama because he is black.
Not EVERYONE is racist but it sure seems like a lot.
I think throughout the last 8 years,(particularly, when we have conservatives in ,we are told, The enemy was from without….the enemy was at the malls, on the airplanes, sneaking across the border, coming on ferries, bringing in dirty bombs, chemical weapons, When we have a Democrat in we are told the enemy is in the Whithouse.
If you don’t the tag of racism, you need to get a hold of it., such as:
The president of the Young Republicans, elected AFTER she called Obama a “coon”, and other racial slurs.
Obama as an African witch doctor, Can we call it the Whitehouse, curious George doll,
The cartoon eyes on the president’s photo page, “GOP Rep. Behind “Great White Hope” Remark Voted For Bill With Same Phrase
AGAIN, “ these decent, patriotic American citizens are so angry.” Loose credibility when they had NOTHING but contempt for other decent, patriotic American citizens who expressed the same frustration over the abuses of the last administration and the lives they lost.
karthiks030977 Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 9:01 am
“AGAIN, “ these decent, patriotic American citizens are so angry.” Loose credibility when they had NOTHING but contempt for other decent, patriotic American citizens who expressed the same frustration over the abuses of the last administration and the lives they lost.”
Very well said. I dont think I or for that matter anyone else here could have put that better.
Daddio Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Do two wrongs make a right? If it was wrong for the right to demonize the left during the Bush years, does it make it wrong for the left to demonize the right during the Obama years?
average james Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Willio,
Two wrongs do not make a right. Agreed.
Then I take it that you do not approve of the death penalty ?
or torture ?
karthiks030977 Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
“or torture ?”
Willy Sez:
“Torture bad, EIT good”
average james Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
My brother in law pulls the same lame on me.
“First someones gotta define what torture is, then we’ll see”
To which I can’t help but reply, “Which method of torture, or EIT if that suits you, do you think Christ would prefer ?”
This invariably has him crying foul, and complaining that I change the subject.
“What does God have to do with it ?” he’ll say.
(funny in itself coming from a professed Christian)
“What does God have to do with any matter of government ?” I’ll ask.
“Well of course God matters in every thing, but ……”
He just tends to get louder and louder and more illogical by that point and earplugs seem the best option.
Funny, while sad.
karthiks030977 Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Well, personally, I dont want to bring God into it either.
Just that scientific evidence (for once), overwhelmingly proves that Torture/EIT/Whatever_you_call_it does not work.
I mean, what’s the point of it, once you realize statistically speaking, it does not work?
average james Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Gotcha Karth,
My greater point being that an avowed born again Christian wants only to insert ‘God’ where convenient.
Hypocracy of the most divine order, he he he.
karthiks030977 Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
““What does God have to do with any matter of government ?””
That is a point I am passionate about: its up to each individual to find his/her peace with God, why does God come into government?
Only reason I can see is the Madoff-reason; A person unable to deliver a proposition with value to the “customer”, using the means of a crook to make a “sale”…
September 12th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
I think it was James that stated he has a 7,000.yearly deductible,(correct me if I’m wrong James) hence he can’t afford to have a yearly physical…how absurd is that! That’s what I call great private health coverage. NOT!!!!!!!!!
John Galt Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
He can’t afford $200 a year? If that’s the case, he has issues beyond health insurance.
libpatriot Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Where’d you get this $200/year figure, JG? Did James tell you that?
jazmine Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Yes, where did I state $200. even that’s absurd! Thanks, John G for making up your own #’s. I don’t know where James is(hopefully having a fun-filled weekend). Either way, all those numbers suck, glad I don’t live there!!!!!
average james Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
What ?
$7,000 deductible a year makes it a purely catastrophic policy. So much for early detection.
I don’t understand the $200 comment, mr. Galt.
I do seem to remember that JFA claims an amazing plan, that might be what you remembered.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
[...] 2 – Not exactly main stream, but Alan Colmes continues with the meme that this is an AstroTurf movement. RS McCain is in DC partying after the [...]
September 12th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Again; I don’t want Health Insurance, I want Health Care. They are two different things. One is a ‘For profit’ business and the other is a right or even a utility.
average james Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Yep.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Tea Party Attendees = Teabaggers??? Let’s have some more of that good old liberal hate speech, Alan. Keep proving what hypocrites are. The general public forgets that sometimes and needs to see you for the fools you are.
TDro319 Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Hate speech? You must have us liberals confused with the teabaggers, Garysbio.
average james Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Orwellian comment courtesy of Garysbio.
EricG Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
You Bush-supporting, war mongering, torture approving conservatives are the ones who are the real hypocrites. You think you can rob the American people and blame the other guy.
I’ve never seen such a disgusting movement of liars in all my life.
May God have mercy on your corrupt souls.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
[...] sponsor was FreedomWorks, a libertarian-leaning organization which was accused by liberals like Alan Colmes of being sold-out shills for corporate [...]
September 14th, 2009 at 2:11 am
“sponsor was FreedomWorks, a libertarian-leaning organization which was accused by liberals like Alan Colmes of being sold-out shills for corporate”
Freedomworks is most definitely NOT libertarian-leaning and is most definitely a conservative lobby.
These people have to lie about everything because if people heard that the party that screwed the economy thinks they can blame the other guys for it they whole see what I see. A bunch of liars trying to shirk blame for their actions.
It’s not “Pajamas Media” really gives a crud about anything but spreading their one-sided, narrow conservativism anyway.
September 14th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/09/14/that-photo-of-the-912-march-on-washington-its-fake/
average james Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Now that is funny bro.
Just more conservative hypocracy.
Cheesy at best.
September 14th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
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SEPTEMBER 14TH, 2009 AT 2:11 AM
……………………
FreedomWorksis run by Dick Army who works for the lobbying firm DLA Piper, who has many clients from the insurance industry.
average james Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Say it isn’t so,
you mean it’s not a grass roots movement ?
Just how dishonest these people can be is an amazing sight to behold.
craig7120 Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
70,000 showed up, thats a bad crowd for a college football game. yeah its a movement alright. I wont be graphic.
John Galt Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
FreedomWorksis run by Dick Army who works for the lobbying firm DLA Piper, who has many clients from the insurance industry.
What does a “group” have to do to be seen as “grass roots”? Do they have to teach their agents to commit fraud, advocate for the right to conduct prostitution, advise on how best to bring in under age girls from a foreign nation to act as said prostitutes? In other words, be ACORN?
Is THAT what it takes to organize and be classified as grass roots?
Why is it so hard to believe that American’s the land over are concerned with Obama’s spending and don’t believe that we can insure everyone and not increase the debt?
craig7120 Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
‘Why is it so hard to believe that American’s the land over are concerned with Obama’s spending and don’t believe that we can insure everyone and not increase the debt?’
I dont know, maybe because it isnt true. just a shot.
now if you rephrased it as some from the republican party land over are concerned… it would be closer to the truth.
September 14th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
I dont know, maybe because it isnt true. just a shot.
Serious. I would be able to resonate more with the pro-Obamacare folks if they would honestly say that we Ought, capital O, take money from those who have it to insure those who don’t.
But this nonsense that you can just make up economic fiction is beyond me. You would be as believable if you decided that you wanted to legislate away cancer. In essence, just make it against the law to contract cancer.
craig7120 Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Fair enough John,
I would also relate with the republicans if they would stop calling it a grass roots movement and instead say its a republican funded gathering.
John Galt Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
I would also relate with the republicans if they would stop calling it a grass roots movement and instead say its a republican funded gathering.
We are making progress. ACORN? Democrat funded political movement?
craig7120 Reply:
September 14th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
I believe Acorn leans left absolutely. You didnt know that?
September 14th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
You guys need to use more adjective. Five or six per noun just isn’t enough.
September 14th, 2009 at 6:57 pm