• Alan shares his thoughts on today’s congressional reprimand of “You Lie” Congressman Joe Wilson.
• Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), whose latest book is End the Fed, explains why he believes Americans are ignoring the only way to truly fix the economy.
• Tea Party co-sponsor Ron Ewart defends his claim that our nation is “headed for a civil war.”
Hope is always good and I try to stay there Lefty.
Corporate personhood just seems so bizarre to me, that it could even be up for consideration flies in the face of the concept of personal freedom.
The founders are likely rolling over in their graves.
WTF ?
I like a “fair system”: Giving mega corp the right to vote brings them on level playing field with the small corp, which doesnt have as much money because they were laaazy, didnt earn the money.
A “fair” system would be where you get votes in proportion to your wealth,individuals or entities, it doesnt matter, as long as the same wealth isnt counted for more than 1 vote.
Think about that system :-).
average james andphillipd,
I know, I know…but there is always SOME hope, although I think Roberts argued many cases for cvorporate personhood.
Thought you would like that. Now envision that every time you go into a B of A. :) LOL
Old Left: Newsflash!! Those with gold already rule. This will just cement their power and the noose around the peoples’ neck. What next will we be told? That corporations have the right to vote? I mean if you follow their argument that corporations are a “person” and have the right to directly fund political campaigns, why not just get it over with and give Mega corp it’s right to vote. Absurd!
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Defends his claim the nation is headed for a civil war,
I get the very strong impression that this man would absolutely love that.
phillipd Reply:
September 15th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
I don’t doubt him. Giving the fact that the flames of division are being fanned by the seditious and divisive rhetoric of Limbaugh, Hannity, and other right wing loons, it is a possibility.
Of course, a more likely scenario is that during this period of near stalemate in government, the capitalists banks and corporate thieves will just help themselves to what’s left, while the people occupy themselves with who is creating a death panel or what the one pundit says about the other guys pundit.
Never look in the direction that the media and powerful direct you; often it is the plausible diversion necessary for wholesale corruption and theft.
That Americans continue to allow themselves to be divided and conquered in this manner escapes me completely. It is so obvious who is the real beneficiary of this rhetoric – corporate America.
While we go nuts over “death panels”, Van Jones, or the village idiot, Sarah Palin, and debate these synthetic issues as the real thing, BOTH parties continue to load the Brinks truck of corporate America with everyone’s money and bow down to their corporate masters every need. The Dem-repuke roadshow continues to dismantle any regulation their master’s deem pesky. I mean, if you believe any REAL reign in of Wall Street is coming from either side, I’ve got an adjustable rate sub-prime mortgage I would like to sell you.
crh3e Reply:
September 15th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Phillip I’m with you on the need for a viable third party. I voted for Nader in 2000 (in VA so no NaderHaters I didn’t hurt Al Gore; VA was Bush country in 2000). But overall I felt dupped by Nader because he said Gore and Bush were basically the same. Looking back, there is no way I’d believe Nader the way I did in ‘00. Gore would’ve taken us in a completely different direction, do you agree?
phillipd Reply:
September 15th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
I know the dilemma. I had grave doubts about Obama being an agent for change after looking at his record, but I could not let McCain and the village idiot Palin occupy the Presidency/Vice Presidency.
Sometimes I think that we are given the crappy choice we are given to PREVENT us from taking the chance on a third party. Trying to vote in a third party candidate in 2008 wasn’t an option given the possibility of those two wingnuts having their hand on the button.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
So last week we found out that the son of which religious neoFascist works for Ron Paul?
September 15th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
It’s always fascinating for me to hear what Ron Paul has to say, even though I hear little that I can agree with.
phillipd Reply:
September 15th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
I agree. Too bad there isn’t like Ron Paul the light and more realistic version. But that we need a third party is obvious. Obama and the Democrats have really shown how bought and sold they are to corporate America. I mean, we already KNEW the Repukes were. The past 9 months has cemented in my mind that voting for either Democrat or Republican is just another vote for the Bankers and Corporate special interests.
phillipd Reply:
September 15th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
To make clear, nor do I agree with Ron Paul’s social views.
Lib Patriot Reply:
September 15th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Nor do I, PhillipD. I think we need at least 4 or 5 viable political parties.
phillipd Reply:
September 15th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
I agree. I believe that is one of the reason’s Europeans tend have governments that are more responsive to the people’s wants and needs, because it is harder for any two to develop a monopoly over the political arena and game the system.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
“Synthetic” issues…yeah I can see that. Neither party seems to have it together anymore although I doubt there is enough momentum yet to form a third party. Nader tried for over fourty years and got nowhere.
What we need is for more Americans to educate themselves about what’s really happening. The corp bosses have always been in control of our politics and our educational system as well. After all they write the textbooks.
phillipd Reply:
September 15th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Amen Mary, amen.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
The corp’s have not always been in charge. WE let it happen over time by not using our first and most powerful vote, the dollar. We support their actions.
phillipd Reply:
September 16th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
I agree with that. I constantly hear folks complain about Bank of America, yet they continue to do business with them. Voting with the wallet is about the only power left the people still have.
average james Reply:
September 16th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
That’s kinda humorous,
B of A bought the banks that I used 3 times. Then the boss uses B of A and if I want my paycheck in a timely fashion I must use them.
I’ve felt pursued and now trapped.
phillipd Reply:
September 16th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Resistance is futile. You will comply……No, wait that’s the Borg, or is it Bank of America?…Hmmm. It gets SO confusing, they are so similar in nature.
average james Reply:
September 16th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
He he he he he
We are the Borg…….er……B of A.
phillipd Reply:
September 16th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Thought you would like that. Now envision that every time you go into a B of A. :) LOL
September 15th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
THE NEXT TALKIING POINT FROM GOP:
The Jacksons and the AL Sharptons have taking
over my country.
September 16th, 2009 at 12:56 am
Why does RonPaul seem to have a never ending platform on the airwaves? He has nothing new to say and nothing new to offer. He could have faxed over a memo. Can we get some actual liberals on the air? Wouldn’t mind hearing from James Clyburn, Maxine Waters, even Carville, or any of the liberals in congress. Why do we keep hearing right wing nut jobs and libertarian whackadoodles on LIBERAL LAND?
libpatriot Reply:
September 16th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Sepia Noir Jenkins, I wouldn’t mind having people like Waters and Clyburn come on Alan’s show more often, for sure.
September 16th, 2009 at 1:27 am
Ron Paul has some good ideas. It’s only too bad he lowers to his knees everyday before the alter of “free markets” and expects to find the answer to all the universal mysteries there.
We need another Roosevelt (the only thing we have to fear is fear itself) and instead the airwaves are filled with all this “the sky is falling and the world is about to end” lunacy. There may yet be time for Obama to step up and play the FDR role, but we’ll see.
Here …
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1439-WARNING-Deflationary-Collapse-Dead-Ahead.html
… this guy says the USA is economic toast.
Australia does fine, by the way, with whatever their brand of gun control is. In fact, most of Australia (the last time I was there) is a mirror image of 1950s America.
The Aussie city boy wanting to fill his basement with AKs might have some problems getting that done but anyone who really needs a gun (as on the farm or ranch) can get something that shoots appropriately. You can drive for miles and miles between Melbourne and Sydney without seeing anything but the occasional kangaroo roadkill. Australia is where I’d like to go hide when or if the USA devolves into madness.
libpatriot Reply:
September 16th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Depressing link, Anonymouse! This fellow is arguing that we must trigger a depression now to avoid a worse depression later. Hope he’s wrong, of course, but I dunno.
phillipd Reply:
September 16th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Regrettably, math doesn’t lie, and history is a pretty good indicator of what is to come for this country. Capitalists are like locust in that once a field is consumed, they move on to the next field, in our case, Asia. I believe part of the melt down was calculated so that banks could wring more capital out of the country, via the government, to cart to Asia to begin the cycle all over again. After all, the banks SURE aren’t lending all that TARP cash to Americans. In fact, they have reduced the amount of capital they are loaning to Americans.
This scenario happened in Europe after the New World became the place to make big bucks, and I see no reason that it won’t happen again. Asia’s 1.5 billion Chinese and 1 billion or so Indians will prove irresistible to the corporate princes of greed.
OldLefty Reply:
September 16th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
If this SCOTUS case,Citizens United v. FEC, goes the way they think, lifting restrictions on the amount of money corporations and unions can give to political campaigns, I think that representative democracy is done.
Those with the gold will rule.
average james Reply:
September 16th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
I agree,
this SCOTUS case is truly scary.
phillipd Reply:
September 16th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Old Left: Newsflash!! Those with gold already rule. This will just cement their power and the noose around the peoples’ neck. What next will we be told? That corporations have the right to vote? I mean if you follow their argument that corporations are a “person” and have the right to directly fund political campaigns, why not just get it over with and give Mega corp it’s right to vote. Absurd!
OldLefty Reply:
September 16th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
average james andphillipd,
I know, I know…but there is always SOME hope, although I think Roberts argued many cases for cvorporate personhood.
karthiks030977 Reply:
September 16th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
I like a “fair system”: Giving mega corp the right to vote brings them on level playing field with the small corp, which doesnt have as much money because they were laaazy, didnt earn the money.
A “fair” system would be where you get votes in proportion to your wealth,individuals or entities, it doesnt matter, as long as the same wealth isnt counted for more than 1 vote.
Think about that system :-).
average james Reply:
September 16th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Hope is always good and I try to stay there Lefty.
Corporate personhood just seems so bizarre to me, that it could even be up for consideration flies in the face of the concept of personal freedom.
The founders are likely rolling over in their graves.
WTF ?
phillipd Reply:
September 16th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Yes, Ron Paul has about 10% good idea’s, but as you point out, he prostates himself before the alter of the free markets as the true and only source of universal truth. Capitalism and free markets are an economic system, not a religion or philosophy or source of universal spirtual knowledge. It is too bad that more people don’t recognize this. It’s a little amusing that the U.S. hardly ever cares about human rights abuses in a country so long as Mega Corp can make a dime. However, let that country tilt toward Socialism or some other economic system, and the airwaves and hot air from the government become filled with complaints of “human rights violations” Or worse, the CIA is dispatched to remove said country’s democratically elected government to put in more “compassionate” capitalism. Coincidence? I don’t think so.
September 16th, 2009 at 2:27 am