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When that happens, does that torture you and make you abort your rational thoughts?

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…And I take back the “HMMMMM?”,
lol

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..If you WOULD be willing to do that, then good on you!

AP Poll: Tax The Rich To Pay For Health Care

THE FLAT TAX
Republicans like Steve Forbes and Dick Armey have proposed the flat tax as a better system than our tax systems we’ve had so far in the U.S.A.

So, what’s wrong with that?

Well, the flat tax, to quote Bob Dole, would “shift the burden from the super rich to the middle class”.

The flat tax would eliminate taxes on interest, dividends capital gains, and inheritance, so it would be a boon to the wealthy elite Bob Dole referred to. But it’s a bad deal if you’re in the middle class, because it leaves in place all the taxes middle-class America pays– payroll taxes and sales taxes and property taxes and excise taxes– and still hits you with an income tax.

A flat 20 percent tax on income would be a tax increase for every American making less than $200,000/year– and a huge tax cut for those making more than $200,000/year [Robert McIntyre, "Flat on Our Backs", The Nation, February 1996, online at http://www.ctj.org/html/flatwrng.htm.

Even the Bush Treasury Department has been forced to conclude that the flat tax would be a burden to the middle class [New York Times, "A Clash of Goals in Bush's Efforts on the Income Tax; Proposals Would Shift Burden from Wealthy to Middle Class", 10/6/04].

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Flap: “Does every American have a fundamental right to happiness or contentment?”

“Happiness” and “contentment” can have so many definitions for each individual American, that your question could be “yes” for an individual content with safe drinking water standards and “no” for an individual content with getting away with vandalism.
And what does that question really, seriously, have to do with health care insurance reform, anyway?
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“Mental health often relates to happiness or contentment.”

Indeed, Flap. And just think how much safer our society would be to live in if people could get treatment for mental illnesses that have been brought on by influence of physical factors (as is the case with clinical depressions, for instance). It just might avert a lot more shooting sprees occuring in our society, for one thing.
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“So, I need to be rich in order to be healthy.”

I’m sure there’s rich alcoholics, rich junkies, rich fat people, and rich people with incurable diseases in this world, too.
What does this have to do with health care insurance reform, exactly?
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“All you rich libs send me a check.”

Sorry, can’t help you there, Flap, ’cause I have the pre-existing condition of being middle-class!
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“Spending big $$$ is important for my mental health.”

In that case, Flap, YOU need to send ME a check, lol.
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But, Flap, just to make sure that we’re getting back to the topic of this thread, could you tell me what you think of these excerpts from Arthur L. Caplan’s essay of 9/10/2009:
“In some societies, health care is seen as a right because it has been earned. The British National Health Service was created in response to the British public having endured the Nazi blitz for many awful years. Some societies see health care as a right because a healthy workforce means a stronger economy. That was the basis for health care reform in Germany and Singapore. And in some nations, health care is seen as a right because of the ethical belief that a community should look after its own. Switzerland, Canada, Australia, France, Taiwan, New Zealand, and many other nations have grounded their right to health care in this idea of social solidarity.

“America is not likely to buy any of these arguments. But there is a foundation for rights that every American understands — equality of opportunity.

“Our nation loves the free market. But you cannot compete in the free market unless you can see, hear, move, chew, think, communicate, and breathe. Health care is essential to being able to do these things. We must make sure that each one of us has minimal insurance coverage so every one can compete and flourish in a free society if we are really a nation that takes equality of opportunity seriously. Once that commitment is made, then and only then do the details become important, because then and only then are arguments over the details carried out in good faith to try and achieve the agreed-upon goal of expanding health insurance coverage.”

Just curious what you think about that, Flap, that’s all…

In Its Zeal To Ban Gay Marriage, Texas May Have Banned All Marriages

Sounds like a good strategy, Burqa.

After a certain point of time being on Liberaland, I realized I never had to listen to Limbaugh anymore to keep track of what his arguments on subjects were/are, because Daddio will come on here and parrot whatever Limbaugh has said on a subject. Being the Limbaugh-Parrot of Liberaland would seem to be Daddio’s function here.

In Its Zeal To Ban Gay Marriage, Texas May Have Banned All Marriages

Burqa: point well stated. Most conservatives will not comment on a subject unless they have already been told what to think about it by a right-wing talking head.

However, to their credit, conservatives GuidoVanHorn and John Galt will at least think for themselves and post comments on this subject w/o worrying about what Hannity or Limbaugh or whoever might say on the subject.

But none of the rest of the cons who post on this board have weighed in on this subject, and that’s VERY telling. They haven’t been told what to think, yet.

CIA Built Secret Prison At Lithuanian Riding Academy

“being forced to watch reruns of bedtime with bonzo”

THAT one would really get to me!

AP Poll: Tax The Rich To Pay For Health Care

JM, I’ll take all the rainwater you’re willing to throw at me! Nice of you to think of me and share!
Enjoy your book-learnin’!

Bryan Fischer Of American Family Association Says "No More Muslims In The US Military"

It is in the beginning of Psalms 53:1.

Ain't It Good To Know

Really neat, Burqa, and I appreciate you taking the time and trouble to share this.
This topic post is about to move to Liberaland’s page 5, so we won’t be able to comment any further here.
But I just wanted to say, telling stories is always a wonderful tradition, and I wouldn’t want to have anything but natural background sounds while sailing, either.

What Democrats Signed On To Re: Abortion

I meant “enforced”, not “forced”

Bryan Fischer Of American Family Association Says "No More Muslims In The US Military"

And there’s never any guarantee someone will listen, Burqa. But, if any poster comes along with similar charges, I can now cut-and-paste from this, rather than having to hand-type it in. I used my science-based information on global warming to re-post in this way to respond to John Galt, for instance (my original posts on that matter were typed in on the July 25, 2009 FFAF thread).