Dawkins is a buffoon and I found it interesting that Alan let him make his comments and go unchallenged…..
I should probably adjust the focus knob here………………..that Alan let him make his comments and go unchallenged by the listeners……………..I was pleasantly surprised when Alan challenged him, somewhat………
Alan, why not ask Joel to see about having William Lane Craig on the program as a guest?
Life is shallow, superficial, and consists of a self absorbed narcissist’s pursuit of material wealth and hedonistic pleasures if it is devoid or without faith in Christ……..that’s a view backed by my personal experience.
Why is your life worth anything?
Flap makes a great point. What makes life meaningful? Eugenics is the 800lb gorilla in the room, couldn’t we extrapolate a position and make an argument for the conservation of resources and the providing of services for only those deemed worthy of life based upon a perception of inherent abilities and intelligence, coupled with an expectation of some contribution to the continuing evolution of humankind?
Dawkins is a buffoon and I found it interesting that Alan let him make his comments and go unchallenged…..
The segment where Alan asked him if he believed the universe exploded into being out of nothing was pretty revealing, Dawkins countered with the “well then you have to ask, who made God?” response, showing that he really has no grasp upon the concepts of true eternity, or true infinity, or absolute authority……………
Eric G, in regards to your proposition regarding the William Lane Craig website “Reasonable Faith” and fundamentalism……..be careful……….you will lose that bet……….Craig is a philosopher, not a preacher……..
I don’t agree with everything that Craig surmises in his arguments, but for the most part I do agree with him, and his views and presentations are intellectually stimulating…..his work on the concept of time and what is it are worth registering for alone, I encourage you to explore his lectures, you may be disappointed in some of the audio quality but I assure you, you will not be disappointed by the intellectual content……
What investigative journalism?Into an episode of mudslinging on an organization deemed guilty before the so-called investigation, paid for and propagandized by
The leftists who regularly contribute to this site are quite representative of the liberal leftstream media, and the evidence for this is the complete lack of any investigative journalism/reporting into the Acorn story during the week that Fox news covered it.
Hmmmm……………………come to think of it they demonstrate a complete lack of investigative inquiry into any liberal left wing politician under any circumstances.
The only network with an eye toward actual critical evaluation of the leftists in Washington just so happens to be…………….Fox News,……..SUPRISE!!
Yes, this is true and exhibit A is Tree’s post where he immediately implies that to denigrate Beck and Co. means you must exclusively watch Keith Olbermann.
Wha???
You didn’t catch the plural generalization and usage of “Olbermans”??
And just how many left wingers on this site regularly infer that conservatives only watch “Fox news”???
Yeah, you’re right Lee, covering the Acorn story at all and asking any questions whatsoever of those who currently hold political office is just an absurd idea and a huge waste of time, we all know that the only corruption that lurks within our society resides in the Republican party.
If only the liberal’s were in complete and total control, perhaps then we’d have an idyllic utopia….
We should all be incredibly thankful for the Keith Olbermans of the world, and their unbiased news coverage…..
Someday we’ll live in a true paradise, Keith willing.
but the fact that there are physical laws are certainly no proof of it.
They (His physical laws) are strong evidence for the existence of an unseen sustainer of the physical realm and they are instrumental in establishing as a guiding principle truths that can be empirically verified as both objective and completely truthful.
Hah! You can’t even get two Christians from the same church to agree on the details, not to mention the thousands of other religions that have various concepts of supernatural critters.
That’s not true, Christian doctrine is well established and the secondary details are not vital to the way of salvation, also the doctrinal discrepancies keep the conversation from ever becoming boring. (btw, I had a 40 min conversation with an associate pastor this am and we agreed on everything that we discussed………)
I can claim to be a Hindu, but just my claiming this doesn’t make it true, and your statement suggests that God can’t be true because we as humans fail to understand everything completely and in its entirety, but you have left out any consideration for spiritual growth and are attempting to limit God by pointing out the shortcomings of a fallen humanity.
Have you ever met anyone that you agree with completely in regards to the small details of anything complex and intricate, and how much ideological commonality is required for you to state that you have a mutual understanding and are in full agreement as to the validity and truth of the concept of discussion?
Your argument is similar to saying that eternity or infinity can’t be actually realized because the universe itself isn’t capable of actually manifesting these conditions.
Seems to me if he wanted to make himself ‘knowable’ he’d take out some ad time on the Superbowl or something.
He did make Himself knowable, (He can be discovered in a book called the bible), He was sacrificed for us on a hill called Golgotha (foretold, prophesied, predicted by that same bible), and He does make Himself knowable today (He changes lives), He allows you to decide this for yourself on an individual basis and He provides alternatives to His existence that will seem entirely plausible to you so that you are not compelled to believe.
You can understand who He is through a deep introspection of who you are…………..
Dharma is defined on concepts of “fair play”: What is fair for a king/ruler to do to his subjects in terms of laws,way of governance, etc. How a warrior may fight,and who he/she may fight,etc. Its not on the basis of any universal idea of good/bad.
And so “fairness” is based upon what exactly?
In order for something to be determined to be “fair” or “unfair” requires a universal standard that is objectively understood.
For example, murder always involves the taking of life, or killing, but killing IS NOT always murder, and the attempt to frame killing as always being the equivalent to murder as a universal “truth” is disingenuous at best.
And so fairness is objectively understandable and absolute moral principles can be clearly defined.
If the concept of “fairness” were purely subjective, then it wouldn’t actually exist anywhere but within the human mind, and would be an irreconcilable concept as I could engage in behavior that I deemed as “fair” (such as murder) and you could not denounce it (my behavior) as wrong behavior, as it would only be your opinion and not based on any objective reality or objective moral principal.
This is also true with mathematics, as the laws of mathematics exist only as thoughts, and thoughts can be expressed through language, and thoughts that operate on objectively verifiable principles are always knowable in a universally applicable sense.
Where are the laws of mathematics?
Can you see them? Touch them? Smell them? Hear them? Can you taste them?
Yet they exist, and we can understand them and know them, and express them in a practical way.
They exist because God exists.
They are self existent, and we didn’t create them as they have always existed.
Likewise morality exists because the Moral law giver also exists and He makes Himself knowable through His universally understandable qualities.
Existence of laws I believe must derive from human rights, not from moral codes of conduct.
Human rights are predicated on morality, slavery was abolished for being immoral, for example.
There is a connection between the 2, but moral codes of conduct are always meant for individuals to “adopt”, and the moral codes used by the majority of individuals of a country must NOT be the driver of the laws, that leads naturally to a theocracy, and I don’t think theocracies will take long time to transform into a state of despotism.
That’s why the founders of our country put in safeguards to keep the state from interfering with the church, they also established a democracy and this has resulted in the people being able to determine for themselves leaders and laws that are acceptable, they protected the freedom to practice religion and insulated it from governmental tampering.
Morality and the moral compass of the populace are what determine our laws, what is acceptable and what isn’t, and this is indicative of the moral compass that is contained within our being, His laws are written on our hearts, they are objectively understood and are timeless in their qualities……….murder will never be acceptable and this is why abortion rights supporters refuse to acknowledge the developing child, preferring instead to refer to “it” as a fetus, they justify the ending of life as being “a woman’s right to choose”……..
And the fact is this, even those who defend abortion readily admit that it should be rare and limited, if there were nothing wrong with abortion why would there be any concern at all with limiting its usage?
Do you think that consciousness is activated only by traveling trough the birth canal?
Abortion is entirely a moral issue. (I don’t know where you stand on this issue)
I would be interested in how Dharma is explained within the context of abortion and in relation to the mother and the child.
Wouldn’t rape just be the Dharma of both the rapist and the victim, and why should the unborn child be punished as a result?
Why is Karma always founded on the basis of what is good?
How do we know what good is?
Good either is just that, good (being commonly understood by both of us objectively), and stands apart from all of us, or else it doesn’t actually exist, as we would never be able to agree on the definition of “good”……
What is “good” to you may not be “good” to me…………..
Good must have an easily understood common standard; this definition would by necessity also be of a moral nature
Existence of laws I believe must derive from human rights, not from moral codes of conduct.
Human rights are predicated on morality, slavery was abolished for being immoral, for example.
There is a connection between the 2, but moral codes of conduct are always meant for individuals to “adopt”, and the moral codes used by the majority of individuals of a country must NOT be the driver of the laws, that leads naturally to a theocracy, and I don’t think theocracies will take long time to transform into a state of despotism.
That’s why the founders of our country put in safeguards to keep the state from interfering with the church, they also established a democracy and this has resulted in the people being able to determine for themselves leaders and laws that are acceptable, they protected the freedom to practice religion and insulated it from governmental tampering.
Morality and the moral compass of the populace are what determine our laws, what is acceptable and what isn’t, and this is indicative of the moral compass that is contained within our being, His laws are written on our hearts, they are objectively understood and are timeless in their qualities……….murder will never be acceptable and this is why abortion rights supporters refuse to acknowledge the developing child, preferring instead to refer to “it” as a fetus, they justify the ending of life as being “a woman’s right to choose”……..
And the fact is this, even those who defend abortion readily admit that it should be rare and limited, if there were nothing wrong with abortion why would there be any concern at all with limiting its usage?
Do you think that consciousness is activated only by traveling trough the birth canal?
Abortion is entirely a moral issue. (I don’t know where you stand on this issue)
I would be interested in how Dharma is explained within the context of abortion and in relation to the mother and the child.
Wouldn’t rape just be the Dharma of both the rapist and the victim, and why should the unborn child be punished as a result?
Why is Karma always founded on the basis of what is good?
How do we know what good is?
Good either is just that, good (being commonly understood by both of us objectively), and stands apart from all of us, or else it doesn’t actually exist, as we would never be able to agree on the definition of “good”……
What is “good” to you may not be “good” to me…………..
Good must have an easily understood common standard; this definition would by necessity also be of a moral nature
For example we all understand, “you shall not commit murder”, and murder is defined as the unjustified taking of a human life.
By understanding this “moral truth” we clearly understand that killing another human being without just cause is wrong, and we know this definitively, meaning it’s always wrong, every time, to kill another human being without a justifiable reason to do so.
What’s a justifiable reason?
In the direct defense of your own life, or in the defense of the lives of others, or as punishment directed at someone who has purposely committed murder, take a life unjustly and lose yours as punishment.
If morals were not derived from absolute truth, such as “thou shall not commit murder” for example, then we could all do exactly as we please, we could all be a law unto ourselves doing as we see fit in our own eyes…….
Morals exist because truth exists.
Because truth doesn’t change, the morals derived from this truth don’t change either, regardless of the circumstances, and what applies to one applies equally and to all…..
I’ve been doing some thinking and I have a question.
Can you tell me, what is truth?
You see, if God exists then truth exists, but if God doesn’t exist, then truth isn’t truth, and God doesn’t exist.
God declares Himself to be the embodiment of truth and revealed to us in the person of Jesus Christ.
If God exists then there are unchanging and eternal truths, if He doesn’t exist then there is no eternity and there is nothing as a result of that…………
For if God is, then He is infinite, and in order for infinity to be actually possible there must be an eternity of time for this infinite quantity to be realized as actual.
God says He is unchanging and timeless, and that because He does not change His promises stand forever, He says that His word is truth and in order for this to be a true statement there must be some objective realization that all of us can comprehend, for if we cannot agree in an absolute fashion, if we cannot share unity in the fundamental understanding of truth, then it, truth, doesn’t actually exist.
“and we hold these truths to be self evident, that all men were created equal………..”
In your system of thought Karthik, truth varies according to the circumstances, and in your system truth is different and constantly changing depending on the situation………..
In my system truth never varies, and this is why it is not well accepted by humanity, because in my system everyone is exposed as they truly are and held accountable for their actions, and any attempt to deny this truth is merely the attempt to exercise justification, which is this…….
“Normally that action would be considered wrong and unacceptable behavior except in this particular instance and because of these circumstances”.
War and carnage is OK if you conv1nce yourself it’s “justified”.
Lefty, your choice of words is misleading.
No one that I know thinks its “ok” for people to die.
It is an unfortunate reality that there will be wars and that people will die.
Trying to characterize my or anyone else’s position as, “we’re good with it” is inaccurate.
Presenting yourself as our moral superior then cheating is OK, as long as you then get on TV, and say you’ve talked to God about it, and publically grovel to a few sycophants.
Nope, lying is not “ok”, but you might want to ask Karthiks about that, he may disagree with me…..
Even accepting the officer’s report as true, it paints a picture of the cop doing what he could to get the guy out of his house so he could arrest him.
No finger painting please…………..
The facts demonstrate that the prof felt that he had the authority, not the law.
Police officers can arrest you for bruising their ego, or any other reason they want – and there is almost never any repercussion for the officer. Yet there is casual acceptance of that fact (which is to be expected amongst those accustomed to living in a police state).
And this current state of affairs that we live in has been slowly forged in the furnace of liberal progressivism.
Crime increases when liberals govern.
Cops have become more calloused over the years as crime has increased under liberal ideologies, look at the crime rate in NYC for example, it grew exponentially under Koch and Dinkins and dramatically shrank under conservative governors….
Cops dealing with the increased stress imposed by increased crime become more forceful and authoritative.
The new campaign slogan, I dunno, how about………
A dramatic reduction of liberalism will lead to a dramatic reduction in the crime rate which in turn will reduce the aggressiveness of the police dept………….
The assessment for these 2 can NOT be EQUAL. You can call them both “sin”, but they are NOT the same sin, even IF they are.
You see, here’s where it gets convoluted, this belief of yours.
If I steal $20 and you steal $200 and someone else steals $20,000, it’s the same thing as we have ALL stolen.
However, you will say…….”but if the man who stole $20,000 did so to pay for an operation for his child, that he could not afford to pay for then this is “ok” due to his circumstances, right?
Let’s continue……..
But then if in the commission of an armed robbery to acquire the 20 grand he ends up shooting a cop and killing him, then what?? Is the cop’s life less valuable then the man’s child?
Let’s say I steal $2.00, an insignificant amount, no big deal right?
But let’s say I stole it from a child in a third world country, and that was all they had, still no big deal??
These circumstances you pose are what are known as justification, and this is an attempt to validate wrong behavior by creating an excuse for the action.
It is never “ok” to take what does not belong to you.
We can only be justified through the redemptive act of sacrificial atonement, or replacement punishment, with the redemptive act credited to our account……….
What about police officers? Firefighters? The Military? These folks also work hard trying to save/improve our lives yet earn nothing near surgeons.
Fair Question,
How many years of schooling and study do they above mentioned do before starting their careers, and how much did this education cost them?
No it couldn’t! The American dream is most certainly not seeing what you can get at the expense of others!
Who said Greed was at the expense of others?
That’s an assumption, have you ever heard of keeping up with the Joneses?
I can be a workaholic, and the basis for all the hours I work can be a desire for material things, a bigger house, a more expensive car, more stuff, more money, motivated by greed, get it?
The salaries of doctors (and other healthcare professionals) is a topic politicians generally tiptoe around because criticism is politically dangerous.
Hmmmm, yeah…..I wonder why that is??
Who is going to be in charge of the allocation of wealth in the “new” system, hmmmm, Komrade?
I’d also like to add that surgeons are some of the hardest working people I’ve ever known, they put in incredible amounts of time at work and on call and this combined with their efforts to save and improve the lives of others entitles them to a generous living standard, imho…
Greed could also be defined as “The American dream”.
I mean if we’re going to start trying to figure out what someone should be able to keep out of what they earn then we’re going to have real problems…….
Why would anybody spend the money and go to the effort to become educated if there isn’t any real financial benefit to themselves.
Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending greed, I’m just wondering how we determine who should get what, and what happens to motivation if there are no rewards for personal achievement.
I’m wondering how all these overpaid athletes are going to react when they start forking over a significantly larger share of their incomes to the inevitable tax increases we’re going to be looking at…….
Unbridled greed is what has caused the real estate collapse, that and a lack of regulatory oversight.
Funny, You Don't LOOK Jewish
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:28 pmI should probably adjust the focus knob here………………..that Alan let him make his comments and go unchallenged by the listeners……………..I was pleasantly surprised when Alan challenged him, somewhat………
Alan, why not ask Joel to see about having William Lane Craig on the program as a guest?
Funny, You Don't LOOK Jewish
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:14 pmLife is shallow, superficial, and consists of a self absorbed narcissist’s pursuit of material wealth and hedonistic pleasures if it is devoid or without faith in Christ……..that’s a view backed by my personal experience.
Flap makes a great point. What makes life meaningful? Eugenics is the 800lb gorilla in the room, couldn’t we extrapolate a position and make an argument for the conservation of resources and the providing of services for only those deemed worthy of life based upon a perception of inherent abilities and intelligence, coupled with an expectation of some contribution to the continuing evolution of humankind?
Dawkins is a buffoon and I found it interesting that Alan let him make his comments and go unchallenged…..
The segment where Alan asked him if he believed the universe exploded into being out of nothing was pretty revealing, Dawkins countered with the “well then you have to ask, who made God?” response, showing that he really has no grasp upon the concepts of true eternity, or true infinity, or absolute authority……………
Eric G, in regards to your proposition regarding the William Lane Craig website “Reasonable Faith” and fundamentalism……..be careful……….you will lose that bet……….Craig is a philosopher, not a preacher……..
I don’t agree with everything that Craig surmises in his arguments, but for the most part I do agree with him, and his views and presentations are intellectually stimulating…..his work on the concept of time and what is it are worth registering for alone, I encourage you to explore his lectures, you may be disappointed in some of the audio quality but I assure you, you will not be disappointed by the intellectual content……
Kirk Cameron: Darwin Undeniably Linked To Hitler
September 27th, 2009 at 12:34 amTo anyone who is interested……………………….
http://www.reasonablefaith.org/site/PageServer?pagename=podcasting_main
Atheists beware, you will no longer be able to feel secure in your ignorance as all of your arguments will shatter like glass.
Joe Conason: "In Defense Of Acorn"
September 20th, 2009 at 6:18 pmFor reasons known only to Alan and his staff this link was blocked while awaiting moderation and then deleted………….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfGF-wI6KUw&feature=related
Leftstream media reporting at its finest.
……………………..MSNBC???
You guys have zero credibility, zero.
Joe Conason: "In Defense Of Acorn"
September 20th, 2009 at 11:33 amNice try Lee, but the reality is this…………………
The leftists who regularly contribute to this site are quite representative of the liberal leftstream media, and the evidence for this is the complete lack of any investigative journalism/reporting into the Acorn story during the week that Fox news covered it.
Hmmmm……………………come to think of it they demonstrate a complete lack of investigative inquiry into any liberal left wing politician under any circumstances.
The only network with an eye toward actual critical evaluation of the leftists in Washington just so happens to be…………….Fox News,……..SUPRISE!!
Wha???
You didn’t catch the plural generalization and usage of “Olbermans”??
And just how many left wingers on this site regularly infer that conservatives only watch “Fox news”???
Yeah, exactly……………
Jimmy Carter: Wilson Outburst "Based On Racism"
September 20th, 2009 at 1:51 amNot true…………
They shot at our pilots who were enforcing the “no fly zone” as per the cease fire agreement.
Sadam was emboldened by the events of 9/11, claiming that Iraq was not a threat is terribly naive at best.
I wonder……do you think that either Iran or N Korea is a threat capable of attacking us?
How do you suppose the leaders of those governments are doing in respect to their “Dharma”?
I guess we shouldn’t worry too much, we’ll all just get reincarnated anyway, right?
Joe Conason: "In Defense Of Acorn"
September 20th, 2009 at 1:22 amYeah, you’re right Lee, covering the Acorn story at all and asking any questions whatsoever of those who currently hold political office is just an absurd idea and a huge waste of time, we all know that the only corruption that lurks within our society resides in the Republican party.
If only the liberal’s were in complete and total control, perhaps then we’d have an idyllic utopia….
We should all be incredibly thankful for the Keith Olbermans of the world, and their unbiased news coverage…..
Someday we’ll live in a true paradise, Keith willing.
God Doesn't Care About Your Sex Life
August 3rd, 2009 at 3:25 amThey (His physical laws) are strong evidence for the existence of an unseen sustainer of the physical realm and they are instrumental in establishing as a guiding principle truths that can be empirically verified as both objective and completely truthful.
That’s not true, Christian doctrine is well established and the secondary details are not vital to the way of salvation, also the doctrinal discrepancies keep the conversation from ever becoming boring. (btw, I had a 40 min conversation with an associate pastor this am and we agreed on everything that we discussed………)
I can claim to be a Hindu, but just my claiming this doesn’t make it true, and your statement suggests that God can’t be true because we as humans fail to understand everything completely and in its entirety, but you have left out any consideration for spiritual growth and are attempting to limit God by pointing out the shortcomings of a fallen humanity.
Have you ever met anyone that you agree with completely in regards to the small details of anything complex and intricate, and how much ideological commonality is required for you to state that you have a mutual understanding and are in full agreement as to the validity and truth of the concept of discussion?
Your argument is similar to saying that eternity or infinity can’t be actually realized because the universe itself isn’t capable of actually manifesting these conditions.
He did make Himself knowable, (He can be discovered in a book called the bible), He was sacrificed for us on a hill called Golgotha (foretold, prophesied, predicted by that same bible), and He does make Himself knowable today (He changes lives), He allows you to decide this for yourself on an individual basis and He provides alternatives to His existence that will seem entirely plausible to you so that you are not compelled to believe.
You can understand who He is through a deep introspection of who you are…………..
God Doesn't Care About Your Sex Life
August 2nd, 2009 at 10:31 pmAnd so “fairness” is based upon what exactly?
In order for something to be determined to be “fair” or “unfair” requires a universal standard that is objectively understood.
For example, murder always involves the taking of life, or killing, but killing IS NOT always murder, and the attempt to frame killing as always being the equivalent to murder as a universal “truth” is disingenuous at best.
And so fairness is objectively understandable and absolute moral principles can be clearly defined.
If the concept of “fairness” were purely subjective, then it wouldn’t actually exist anywhere but within the human mind, and would be an irreconcilable concept as I could engage in behavior that I deemed as “fair” (such as murder) and you could not denounce it (my behavior) as wrong behavior, as it would only be your opinion and not based on any objective reality or objective moral principal.
This is also true with mathematics, as the laws of mathematics exist only as thoughts, and thoughts can be expressed through language, and thoughts that operate on objectively verifiable principles are always knowable in a universally applicable sense.
Where are the laws of mathematics?
Can you see them? Touch them? Smell them? Hear them? Can you taste them?
Yet they exist, and we can understand them and know them, and express them in a practical way.
They exist because God exists.
They are self existent, and we didn’t create them as they have always existed.
Likewise morality exists because the Moral law giver also exists and He makes Himself knowable through His universally understandable qualities.
God Doesn't Care About Your Sex Life
August 1st, 2009 at 7:17 pmoops, messed up, resending
Human rights are predicated on morality, slavery was abolished for being immoral, for example.
That’s why the founders of our country put in safeguards to keep the state from interfering with the church, they also established a democracy and this has resulted in the people being able to determine for themselves leaders and laws that are acceptable, they protected the freedom to practice religion and insulated it from governmental tampering.
Morality and the moral compass of the populace are what determine our laws, what is acceptable and what isn’t, and this is indicative of the moral compass that is contained within our being, His laws are written on our hearts, they are objectively understood and are timeless in their qualities……….murder will never be acceptable and this is why abortion rights supporters refuse to acknowledge the developing child, preferring instead to refer to “it” as a fetus, they justify the ending of life as being “a woman’s right to choose”……..
And the fact is this, even those who defend abortion readily admit that it should be rare and limited, if there were nothing wrong with abortion why would there be any concern at all with limiting its usage?
Do you think that consciousness is activated only by traveling trough the birth canal?
Abortion is entirely a moral issue. (I don’t know where you stand on this issue)
I would be interested in how Dharma is explained within the context of abortion and in relation to the mother and the child.
Wouldn’t rape just be the Dharma of both the rapist and the victim, and why should the unborn child be punished as a result?
Why is Karma always founded on the basis of what is good?
How do we know what good is?
Good either is just that, good (being commonly understood by both of us objectively), and stands apart from all of us, or else it doesn’t actually exist, as we would never be able to agree on the definition of “good”……
What is “good” to you may not be “good” to me…………..
Good must have an easily understood common standard; this definition would by necessity also be of a moral nature
God Doesn't Care About Your Sex Life
August 1st, 2009 at 7:15 pmGod Doesn't Care About Your Sex Life
August 1st, 2009 at 2:29 pmMorals are derived from truth.
For example we all understand, “you shall not commit murder”, and murder is defined as the unjustified taking of a human life.
By understanding this “moral truth” we clearly understand that killing another human being without just cause is wrong, and we know this definitively, meaning it’s always wrong, every time, to kill another human being without a justifiable reason to do so.
What’s a justifiable reason?
In the direct defense of your own life, or in the defense of the lives of others, or as punishment directed at someone who has purposely committed murder, take a life unjustly and lose yours as punishment.
If morals were not derived from absolute truth, such as “thou shall not commit murder” for example, then we could all do exactly as we please, we could all be a law unto ourselves doing as we see fit in our own eyes…….
Morals exist because truth exists.
Because truth doesn’t change, the morals derived from this truth don’t change either, regardless of the circumstances, and what applies to one applies equally and to all…..
This is the basis of law.
God Doesn't Care About Your Sex Life
July 31st, 2009 at 12:10 pmHi Karthiks,
I’ve been doing some thinking and I have a question.
Can you tell me, what is truth?
You see, if God exists then truth exists, but if God doesn’t exist, then truth isn’t truth, and God doesn’t exist.
God declares Himself to be the embodiment of truth and revealed to us in the person of Jesus Christ.
If God exists then there are unchanging and eternal truths, if He doesn’t exist then there is no eternity and there is nothing as a result of that…………
For if God is, then He is infinite, and in order for infinity to be actually possible there must be an eternity of time for this infinite quantity to be realized as actual.
God says He is unchanging and timeless, and that because He does not change His promises stand forever, He says that His word is truth and in order for this to be a true statement there must be some objective realization that all of us can comprehend, for if we cannot agree in an absolute fashion, if we cannot share unity in the fundamental understanding of truth, then it, truth, doesn’t actually exist.
In your system of thought Karthik, truth varies according to the circumstances, and in your system truth is different and constantly changing depending on the situation………..
In my system truth never varies, and this is why it is not well accepted by humanity, because in my system everyone is exposed as they truly are and held accountable for their actions, and any attempt to deny this truth is merely the attempt to exercise justification, which is this…….
“Normally that action would be considered wrong and unacceptable behavior except in this particular instance and because of these circumstances”.
Truth either is or isn’t.
Tell me Karthiks, what is truth?
Dear Abby: Should I Take My Sister's Porn Money For My Kids?
July 30th, 2009 at 1:27 pmLefty, your choice of words is misleading.
No one that I know thinks its “ok” for people to die.
It is an unfortunate reality that there will be wars and that people will die.
Trying to characterize my or anyone else’s position as, “we’re good with it” is inaccurate.
Nope, lying is not “ok”, but you might want to ask Karthiks about that, he may disagree with me…..
911 Caller Contradicts Officer's Account
July 30th, 2009 at 1:19 pmEven accepting the officer’s report as true, it paints a picture of the cop doing what he could to get the guy out of his house so he could arrest him.
No finger painting please…………..
The facts demonstrate that the prof felt that he had the authority, not the law.
Dear Abby: Should I Take My Sister's Porn Money For My Kids?
July 30th, 2009 at 1:13 pmJust an observation…….
Most women are opposed to pornography.
911 Caller Contradicts Officer's Account
July 30th, 2009 at 1:04 pmAnd this current state of affairs that we live in has been slowly forged in the furnace of liberal progressivism.
Crime increases when liberals govern.
Cops have become more calloused over the years as crime has increased under liberal ideologies, look at the crime rate in NYC for example, it grew exponentially under Koch and Dinkins and dramatically shrank under conservative governors….
Cops dealing with the increased stress imposed by increased crime become more forceful and authoritative.
The new campaign slogan, I dunno, how about………
A dramatic reduction of liberalism will lead to a dramatic reduction in the crime rate which in turn will reduce the aggressiveness of the police dept………….
No, we better stick with “hope for change”……….
It’s more “catchy”
I gotta run….cuamigo
Dear Abby: Should I Take My Sister's Porn Money For My Kids?
July 30th, 2009 at 12:13 pmNow I know why the eastern philosophy of Hinduism is so popular with Liberals…….
It’s “ok” if your hearts in the right place.
It all depends on the circumstances.
Killing Tiller therefore becomes “ok” because Tiller was killing unborn children.
See how that works?
Btw, I believe it was wrong to murder Tiller, murder is as murder does
Dear Abby: Should I Take My Sister's Porn Money For My Kids?
July 30th, 2009 at 12:08 pmNo, I think the word you’re looking for AJ is justification……..
As in, it’s “ok” to do something “wrong” if my motivations for doing it were good, or “right”…….
God Doesn't Care About Your Sex Life
July 30th, 2009 at 12:04 pmYou see, here’s where it gets convoluted, this belief of yours.
If I steal $20 and you steal $200 and someone else steals $20,000, it’s the same thing as we have ALL stolen.
However, you will say…….”but if the man who stole $20,000 did so to pay for an operation for his child, that he could not afford to pay for then this is “ok” due to his circumstances, right?
Let’s continue……..
But then if in the commission of an armed robbery to acquire the 20 grand he ends up shooting a cop and killing him, then what?? Is the cop’s life less valuable then the man’s child?
Let’s say I steal $2.00, an insignificant amount, no big deal right?
But let’s say I stole it from a child in a third world country, and that was all they had, still no big deal??
These circumstances you pose are what are known as justification, and this is an attempt to validate wrong behavior by creating an excuse for the action.
It is never “ok” to take what does not belong to you.
We can only be justified through the redemptive act of sacrificial atonement, or replacement punishment, with the redemptive act credited to our account……….
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July 30th, 2009 at 11:46 amWho among us doesn’t covet??
Let him cast the first stone.
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July 30th, 2009 at 11:43 amFair Question,
How many years of schooling and study do they above mentioned do before starting their careers, and how much did this education cost them?
Who said Greed was at the expense of others?
That’s an assumption, have you ever heard of keeping up with the Joneses?
I can be a workaholic, and the basis for all the hours I work can be a desire for material things, a bigger house, a more expensive car, more stuff, more money, motivated by greed, get it?
Hmmmm, yeah…..I wonder why that is??
Who is going to be in charge of the allocation of wealth in the “new” system, hmmmm, Komrade?
A free market system is just that, free……..
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July 30th, 2009 at 2:57 amI’d also like to add that surgeons are some of the hardest working people I’ve ever known, they put in incredible amounts of time at work and on call and this combined with their efforts to save and improve the lives of others entitles them to a generous living standard, imho…
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July 30th, 2009 at 2:48 amGreed could also be defined as “The American dream”.
I mean if we’re going to start trying to figure out what someone should be able to keep out of what they earn then we’re going to have real problems…….
Why would anybody spend the money and go to the effort to become educated if there isn’t any real financial benefit to themselves.
Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending greed, I’m just wondering how we determine who should get what, and what happens to motivation if there are no rewards for personal achievement.
I’m wondering how all these overpaid athletes are going to react when they start forking over a significantly larger share of their incomes to the inevitable tax increases we’re going to be looking at…….
Unbridled greed is what has caused the real estate collapse, that and a lack of regulatory oversight.
God Doesn't Care About Your Sex Life
July 30th, 2009 at 2:09 amOops, forgot the word, would……here this might help……….
And I also agree with you that all of us probably would kill someone else