“Dithering, while more and more troops die in Afghanistan” Hell we have been Dithering in Afghanistan for 7 years while President Bush changed the focus and divided our resources with Iraq. Personally,I don’t think we should ever go to War, unless we have to and are ready to kick Ass and use every bit of power we have, like we did in WWII! At least, President Obama is not always waving his hand, around the table, showing his cards! For the sake of our troops, President Obama’s moves will be thought out, not impulsive.
Say…are we seeing the end days of Lieberman’s political career? He had so, in your face, turned his back on the Democrats and does he really think the Republicans will embrace him, in any meaningful way?
BTW burga. Thanks for your posts on another thread. You sold a book. Now I have to get it, Dying to Win. Terrorism is a sad subject but one that affects us all and I think it would be helpful to learn more since it doesn’t seem to go away and has no boundaries.
I think it is more than the defining of words. There is a deep conviction and belief on both sides. I hear some pro-lifers believe they could no more end the life of a one month fetus than a one month new born. They are deeply and spiritually connected to the experience of life and the process of creation, believing, it is no less a crime to kill a child in the womb, than a New Born Child. I understand that, having given bith and cherishing the process of creation of Life. I also think there are people who jump on, to protest, because it is an avenue to exercise control, hate, judgement or violence against women and those that help them in difficult situations. And there are difficut situation. I don’t need to list them because we all know them. I understand and have deep empathy. We cannot change a women situation faced with medical problems, rape or incest but I think we can help women to choose life that are faced with horendous economic difficulty, by being more supportive and less hateful if she is in need of economic support. I don’t usually like to get into this discussion but this thread, tonight, changed my mind. I’m sure I added nothing new!
Flap, although I am pro choice, I understand and respect your pro life stance, to a point. Never, in any situation, is it okay for a person to take the law into their own hands and issue the death penalty to another person because they violate anothers personal moral code. There is no defense or justification for that.
I had such a lovely evening, puttering with my pressed flower crafts and thinking how wonderful the Democrats understand their moderates and do not threaten them. And wasn’t it lovely, exciting and positive the passing of the baton to the next generation at the Democratic Convention? These new age Republicans have to threaten the older Republicans to take control. It is all so interesting!
Oh that is so nice to know she was wearing a lei. I caught her for a moment voting on something else but didn’t have time to listen. I did wonder what in the world she was wearing and who her new designer is. Such a relief!
i did not see a relationship with a conversation about PTSD in the Military,our different views on how the Military address those issues, and advancing a diagnosis. Each time, I thought about the Fort Hood shootings, I was overwelmed with emotion and worry. Crh3e took the conversation out of the emotion realm and into the mental, which gave me a period of emotional detachment so I could focus on the safety elements of my job. I am grateful. I think the differences in the shootings, listed below by Robert Taylor, is, these shootings directly affect a greater population. Most people would find any of these shooting horrific. Yet there are many more people directly affected because they may have families or friends who have or are serving, in the lengthy war. What makes this tragedy interesting, if one can step back from the emotional, is its uniqueness. This man is a psychiatrist, an American soldier, treating other American soldiers affected by war with people the psychiatrist shares certain beliefs and culture. He himself could not cope with the deployment so many of his patients had experienced because of fear?, conflict with personal beliefs ?, mental illness?, anger?, or a tumor on the adrenal gland?(just had to throw that in). He resorted to the worst possible solution and we all wonder why. We will never know motive until professional evaluation and investigations are complete. Speculating at this point is merely a coping mechanism in and of intself, as long as we don’t draw conclusions and believe they are accurate!
And as they say, “There is a high rate of Burnout for those working in the Mental Health Field.” I can’t recall the stats on that. The label shellshock may be more acceptable to Warriors. PTSD does have a gentler tone. I know Vietnam Vets that were treated for PTSD and they have talked to me about that. They are doing fine today and for many years now. I’m so glad!
I agree, absolutely! That would be the worst advice anyone could give a soldier suffering from PTSD. Alcohol coupled with PTSD could be deadly. It may well be, the people giving such advice find a alcohol a great stress reliever and rely on it themselves. And then there are some that have such strong coping abilities themselves, they simply cannot understand how someone else does not have those same coping mechanism. My understanding is, the Military, as a whole, has been taking great steps in addressing the PTSD issue, now. Am I wrong?
crh3e…I think they are trying to step up to the plate but they are still learning.I think a big lesson would be, make sure your mental health workers are mentally healthy but that is not always easy to identify and a psychiatrist,if anyone, would know how to hide it. I don’t buy the racism defense,if that is what route they chose to go down. He was given a high Rank and trusted with mentally vulnerable patients.. A phychiatrist, working in his area, would know that the people he is treating would aim some of their agrer at him, no matter what Race or Religion he was and then factor in working with PTSD. Well he himself may be the trigger if he reminds them of the enemy. Even the dumbest psychiatrist would know that. Treating PTSD is helping those suffering by helping them recognize their triggers.
I certainly hope someone is checking on the Soldiers this psychiatrist was treating. If he had that kind of Anger occuring over a long period of time,he could of done further damage to someone already in a vulnerable mental condition or suffering from PTSD.
Thank You burga. My comment below is not refering to your statement. They must of removed the posters comments, to which I was responding. After, I addressed that posters comment, i heard about the shootings at Fort Hood. I am still so sad. My son was a Soldier at one time. I have not watched T.V. nor does our radio work in the truck but everytime I think about it, I start to weep. I also want our Representatives to be safe, Democrat or Republican. I am horrified and deeply concerned when we have a Representative asking people to “scare” our Representatives into doing what they want.There is something so deeply distrubing, (to me), in threatening our elected, by another member of Congress. They are poor role models and we saw what happened with Census worker. There is a violent and mentally unstable group following people like Backmann and Palin, Rush and Glen. Now “Bullet Box”! Steele sound be fired and Bachmann should be brought up on some kind of charges, interfering and encouraging people to terrorize our elected officials! Yesterday was a sad day in America!
My heart and Prayers go out to the Families and Solgiers at Fort Hood. This killing is Deeply Tragic. I pray, we can all do what we can to keep our fellow Americans safe!
Your last statement may be the consequences of their behavior but I don’t think they have that much thought process. These are people that will also take the law into thier own hands and kill Doctors they feel are violating their Moral Code. I have become concerned not only, for the Safelty of Democratic Leaders but also Republican, who no longer go along with the far right crazy agenda. Look at the Language they use regarding the White House. OMG……
I was scrolling around on Alan’s Blogroll and I am very concerned. The language coming from people like Backmann and Steele, with go in and “Scare” your Representatives into doing what you want them to do or Steele saying things like, “we will come after you.” Are our elected officials safe. These people are crazy. Do they do back ground checks on these people they are asking us to scare people. We spend 8 yrs. being concerned about terrorism by the Republicans and then they violate any safety for our elected and start threatening them. I have NEVER seen anything like this. They threaten other Countries when they are in Power and when we elect another Party, they start threatening thier fellow Americans and our Elected Representatives.
Anyone know, why when I type in paragraph’s and push sent all sentences come together to form one paragraph? Got to talk to my Granddaughter’s again, so they can help me on the computer.
Yeah, I forgot Glen! Could not get back on this until now. Our clutch went out on the Semi and back to the Dealership from the Hotel. I wish, I had my own “Vomitorium” when I heard what We’d be paying! When I reached a certain age and all the ache and pain set in, the only “promised land” I see ahead is Death. Now Daddio may have meant “promised land” in another context. Mixing Religious belief and Politics can lead to many varied interpetations! But just the same, Grandma’s view of Party Policies only matter if Grandma buys the fear Tactics! Just saying…
I got such a charge reading the comments, on the Amazing Facebook,( by the 20 and 30 years olds), on the subject. They were joking around saying things like, “I am all for killing Grandma.” “Let her go to work for the space program, send her off into outerspace and help future generations.” and more. I laughed so hard. They were joking of course but it let me know what a Bogus Joke this “killing off Grandma” approach, by the GOP, is to them!
Obama Wants Revisions To War Options
November 12th, 2009 at 11:03 pm“Dithering, while more and more troops die in Afghanistan” Hell we have been Dithering in Afghanistan for 7 years while President Bush changed the focus and divided our resources with Iraq. Personally,I don’t think we should ever go to War, unless we have to and are ready to kick Ass and use every bit of power we have, like we did in WWII! At least, President Obama is not always waving his hand, around the table, showing his cards! For the sake of our troops, President Obama’s moves will be thought out, not impulsive.
Republican National Committee Health Plan Covers Abortion
November 12th, 2009 at 9:52 pmOopsie, Daisy, Doodle………once again!
On Monday's Radio Show...
November 10th, 2009 at 5:10 amSay…are we seeing the end days of Lieberman’s political career? He had so, in your face, turned his back on the Democrats and does he really think the Republicans will embrace him, in any meaningful way?
Scott Roeder Confesses To Killing George Tiller
November 10th, 2009 at 4:38 amBTW burga. Thanks for your posts on another thread. You sold a book. Now I have to get it, Dying to Win. Terrorism is a sad subject but one that affects us all and I think it would be helpful to learn more since it doesn’t seem to go away and has no boundaries.
Scott Roeder Confesses To Killing George Tiller
November 10th, 2009 at 4:26 amI think it is more than the defining of words. There is a deep conviction and belief on both sides. I hear some pro-lifers believe they could no more end the life of a one month fetus than a one month new born. They are deeply and spiritually connected to the experience of life and the process of creation, believing, it is no less a crime to kill a child in the womb, than a New Born Child. I understand that, having given bith and cherishing the process of creation of Life. I also think there are people who jump on, to protest, because it is an avenue to exercise control, hate, judgement or violence against women and those that help them in difficult situations. And there are difficut situation. I don’t need to list them because we all know them. I understand and have deep empathy. We cannot change a women situation faced with medical problems, rape or incest but I think we can help women to choose life that are faced with horendous economic difficulty, by being more supportive and less hateful if she is in need of economic support. I don’t usually like to get into this discussion but this thread, tonight, changed my mind. I’m sure I added nothing new!
Scott Roeder Confesses To Killing George Tiller
November 10th, 2009 at 3:23 amFlap, although I am pro choice, I understand and respect your pro life stance, to a point. Never, in any situation, is it okay for a person to take the law into their own hands and issue the death penalty to another person because they violate anothers personal moral code. There is no defense or justification for that.
Tea Party Is Now A--Party
November 10th, 2009 at 2:44 amOkay…I almost hate to ask. SOL Party? Simple Old Ladies Party?
Tea Party Is Now A--Party
November 10th, 2009 at 1:53 amOH Thank the Lord! Now what party will Bachmann be running with in 2010?
Democrats Who Voted "No" On Health Care
November 9th, 2009 at 11:46 amI am shaking in the Petals, Bobchai!
Democrats Who Voted "No" On Health Care
November 9th, 2009 at 12:04 amI had such a lovely evening, puttering with my pressed flower crafts and thinking how wonderful the Democrats understand their moderates and do not threaten them. And wasn’t it lovely, exciting and positive the passing of the baton to the next generation at the Democratic Convention? These new age Republicans have to threaten the older Republicans to take control. It is all so interesting!
Bachmann Wears Lei On Floor; Blumenauer Hopes This Means She Accepts Obama As Citizen
November 8th, 2009 at 11:52 pmOh that is so nice to know she was wearing a lei. I caught her for a moment voting on something else but didn’t have time to listen. I did wonder what in the world she was wearing and who her new designer is. Such a relief!
Suspected Fort Hood Shooter Called "Camel Jockey" By Military Colleagues
November 8th, 2009 at 4:02 pmi did not see a relationship with a conversation about PTSD in the Military,our different views on how the Military address those issues, and advancing a diagnosis. Each time, I thought about the Fort Hood shootings, I was overwelmed with emotion and worry. Crh3e took the conversation out of the emotion realm and into the mental, which gave me a period of emotional detachment so I could focus on the safety elements of my job. I am grateful. I think the differences in the shootings, listed below by Robert Taylor, is, these shootings directly affect a greater population. Most people would find any of these shooting horrific. Yet there are many more people directly affected because they may have families or friends who have or are serving, in the lengthy war. What makes this tragedy interesting, if one can step back from the emotional, is its uniqueness. This man is a psychiatrist, an American soldier, treating other American soldiers affected by war with people the psychiatrist shares certain beliefs and culture. He himself could not cope with the deployment so many of his patients had experienced because of fear?, conflict with personal beliefs ?, mental illness?, anger?, or a tumor on the adrenal gland?(just had to throw that in). He resorted to the worst possible solution and we all wonder why. We will never know motive until professional evaluation and investigations are complete. Speculating at this point is merely a coping mechanism in and of intself, as long as we don’t draw conclusions and believe they are accurate!
Suspected Fort Hood Shooter Called "Camel Jockey" By Military Colleagues
November 6th, 2009 at 9:32 pmAnd as they say, “There is a high rate of Burnout for those working in the Mental Health Field.” I can’t recall the stats on that. The label shellshock may be more acceptable to Warriors. PTSD does have a gentler tone. I know Vietnam Vets that were treated for PTSD and they have talked to me about that. They are doing fine today and for many years now. I’m so glad!
Suspected Fort Hood Shooter Called "Camel Jockey" By Military Colleagues
November 6th, 2009 at 8:15 pmI agree, absolutely! That would be the worst advice anyone could give a soldier suffering from PTSD. Alcohol coupled with PTSD could be deadly. It may well be, the people giving such advice find a alcohol a great stress reliever and rely on it themselves. And then there are some that have such strong coping abilities themselves, they simply cannot understand how someone else does not have those same coping mechanism. My understanding is, the Military, as a whole, has been taking great steps in addressing the PTSD issue, now. Am I wrong?
Suspected Fort Hood Shooter Called "Camel Jockey" By Military Colleagues
November 6th, 2009 at 7:38 pmcrh3e…I think they are trying to step up to the plate but they are still learning.I think a big lesson would be, make sure your mental health workers are mentally healthy but that is not always easy to identify and a psychiatrist,if anyone, would know how to hide it. I don’t buy the racism defense,if that is what route they chose to go down. He was given a high Rank and trusted with mentally vulnerable patients.. A phychiatrist, working in his area, would know that the people he is treating would aim some of their agrer at him, no matter what Race or Religion he was and then factor in working with PTSD. Well he himself may be the trigger if he reminds them of the enemy. Even the dumbest psychiatrist would know that. Treating PTSD is helping those suffering by helping them recognize their triggers.
Suspected Fort Hood Shooter Called "Camel Jockey" By Military Colleagues
November 6th, 2009 at 6:20 pmI certainly hope someone is checking on the Soldiers this psychiatrist was treating. If he had that kind of Anger occuring over a long period of time,he could of done further damage to someone already in a vulnerable mental condition or suffering from PTSD.
After Losing NY-23, Conservatives Declare War On GOP
November 6th, 2009 at 5:46 pmThank You burga. My comment below is not refering to your statement. They must of removed the posters comments, to which I was responding. After, I addressed that posters comment, i heard about the shootings at Fort Hood. I am still so sad. My son was a Soldier at one time. I have not watched T.V. nor does our radio work in the truck but everytime I think about it, I start to weep. I also want our Representatives to be safe, Democrat or Republican. I am horrified and deeply concerned when we have a Representative asking people to “scare” our Representatives into doing what they want.There is something so deeply distrubing, (to me), in threatening our elected, by another member of Congress. They are poor role models and we saw what happened with Census worker. There is a violent and mentally unstable group following people like Backmann and Palin, Rush and Glen. Now “Bullet Box”! Steele sound be fired and Bachmann should be brought up on some kind of charges, interfering and encouraging people to terrorize our elected officials! Yesterday was a sad day in America!
After Losing NY-23, Conservatives Declare War On GOP
November 5th, 2009 at 5:35 pmMy heart and Prayers go out to the Families and Solgiers at Fort Hood. This killing is Deeply Tragic. I pray, we can all do what we can to keep our fellow Americans safe!
After Losing NY-23, Conservatives Declare War On GOP
November 5th, 2009 at 3:38 pmYour last statement may be the consequences of their behavior but I don’t think they have that much thought process. These are people that will also take the law into thier own hands and kill Doctors they feel are violating their Moral Code. I have become concerned not only, for the Safelty of Democratic Leaders but also Republican, who no longer go along with the far right crazy agenda. Look at the Language they use regarding the White House. OMG……
After Losing NY-23, Conservatives Declare War On GOP
November 5th, 2009 at 3:16 pmI was scrolling around on Alan’s Blogroll and I am very concerned. The language coming from people like Backmann and Steele, with go in and “Scare” your Representatives into doing what you want them to do or Steele saying things like, “we will come after you.” Are our elected officials safe. These people are crazy. Do they do back ground checks on these people they are asking us to scare people. We spend 8 yrs. being concerned about terrorism by the Republicans and then they violate any safety for our elected and start threatening them. I have NEVER seen anything like this. They threaten other Countries when they are in Power and when we elect another Party, they start threatening thier fellow Americans and our Elected Representatives.
Right Wing Jumps The Shark With Dontkillgrandma.com
November 5th, 2009 at 1:10 pmAnyone know, why when I type in paragraph’s and push sent all sentences come together to form one paragraph? Got to talk to my Granddaughter’s again, so they can help me on the computer.
Right Wing Jumps The Shark With Dontkillgrandma.com
November 5th, 2009 at 1:07 pmYeah, I forgot Glen! Could not get back on this until now. Our clutch went out on the Semi and back to the Dealership from the Hotel. I wish, I had my own “Vomitorium” when I heard what We’d be paying! When I reached a certain age and all the ache and pain set in, the only “promised land” I see ahead is Death. Now Daddio may have meant “promised land” in another context. Mixing Religious belief and Politics can lead to many varied interpetations! But just the same, Grandma’s view of Party Policies only matter if Grandma buys the fear Tactics! Just saying…
Right Wing Jumps The Shark With Dontkillgrandma.com
November 5th, 2009 at 9:56 amDaddio…that almost sounds like a Right Wing veiled threat!
Right Wing Jumps The Shark With Dontkillgrandma.com
November 5th, 2009 at 9:30 amDaddio…Is that the best you can do when you are not quoting Rush?
Right Wing Jumps The Shark With Dontkillgrandma.com
November 5th, 2009 at 9:27 amI got such a charge reading the comments, on the Amazing Facebook,( by the 20 and 30 years olds), on the subject. They were joking around saying things like, “I am all for killing Grandma.” “Let her go to work for the space program, send her off into outerspace and help future generations.” and more. I laughed so hard. They were joking of course but it let me know what a Bogus Joke this “killing off Grandma” approach, by the GOP, is to them!